blob deletion

2002-12-03 Thread Daniel Wisser
hi gurus!

can anyone answer this (maybe newb question:)

i have a table with a BLOB column. this table is stored in a
seperate tablespace, in which there are no other data than that
of this very table.

suppose now i have one row in this table.
if i delete this row, the blob is also deleted and
tablespace increases.

on a different DB with the very same data, the DBA
claims that deleting the row with the BLOB does delete
the row from the table, but the BLOB remains in the
tablespace and the diskspace he takes cannot be reused.

if i create my tablespace (without auto-extend) sized 1 MB
and i insert a row with one BLOB of size 800 KB, the next
time i can't insert another row with a BLOB of that size. - fine.
if i delete the row, i can insert another row, again! - fine.

but the DBA of the other DB claims: if he deletes one row,
he cannot insert another row, because the BLOB is not
acutally deleted.

? ? ?


thx daniel
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UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Leith
Hi All,

I remember that a number of people were all for getting together on the
Monday night at the UKOUG. I *don't* remember us actually arranging a
place/time.. ;) Is there any chance of another show of hands so that we can
see if we'll need to book a table or not. And has *anybody* had any thoughts
on a place at all?

See you all soon!

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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Leith
Yup, got that covered :)

If I may add another point. When dealing with SLA's, you not only have to
show that the database has been servicing users that are connected
(showing database uptime), but also that users can also *connect* to the
database as well (the listener is servicing requests).

If you were to go about this with a trigger/procedure that inserts in to a
table, then this doesn't show that the database was available to
everybody.

Typically what we do with monitoring tools is a connect on ping, so when
we are checking availability of a database we do a full connect, then
select 'PING' from dual;. If there are any errors along the way we search
for the error code, and deal with the appropriate alerts (TNS = Listener
problem, ORA = Database problem).

Of course, the problem with doing it this way, is that you are going to have
to write platform dependant scripts (batches for NT, shell type scripts for
Unix), and not have a one for all with a database based solution.

Go buy a tool. Let it write to a table/file, alert you AND make the coffee
for when you get there! ;)

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Perhaps there is a poor mans way of doing this.  The startup trigger
could fire a procedure that inserts a row into a table and then sleeps for
1 minute before doing the same again.  Effectively it would create a ping
in the table, which you could then analyze / graph to display uptimes.

The next logical step would be to increase the intelligence of the
procedure.  The table storing the statistic could consist of two columns -
uptime and downtime.  When the startup trigger fires it creates a new row
in the table with both uptime and downtime set to sysdate.  It then sleeps
for a minute before updating downtime for the most recent record (either
remember a primary key or search for max(uptime)).  This would be much
easier to understand when the database was stopped / started.

Of course depending on your accuracy requirement, granularity could be
changed to every 5 minutes, 10 minutes, whatever.

Hopefully that gives some ideas though.  Of course the 3rd party monitors
that Jared mentions are worth considering if the database is considered
critical.  In that case the number one requirement is probably the ability
to page / SMS / email when it sees the database is down.

Regards,
 Mark.




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Ethan,

That records the startup times, but does not record the time
that the database was unavailable.

What's needed is a 3rd party monitor that is not dependent
on the database being up to record metrics.

Jared





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Just a thought here for a script I think would be handy but I haven't had
time to write.

It is would be a simple procedure you could call to get the service level
for a particular database.  I suppose you would have to have some sort of
way of defining normal outage windows.  Basically a startup trigger would
log the times in a table.  You should also check the startup time against
the last startup time periodically to ensure the trigger always fires.
Somehow a procedure/function should be able to use this information to
report the service level for the database within the last
(week/month/quarter/year).

I suppose I will get around to it eventually but if anyone else wants to
get
started on it I won't mind!

Thanks,
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RE: move some records of some tables

2002-12-03 Thread Robson, Peter
There are issues here. Will the table being copied to have the same
constraints in place as those tables from which the data is being extracted?
If so, resolves those, and get these reference tables in place first.

Then simply use a database link to 'pull' the data from your source tables,
eg

insert into USERNAME.COPY_TABLE select * from
USERNAME.SOURCE_TABLE@DATABASE_LINK where... ;

Of course, make sure the owner of the copy tables has select on the source
tables.


peter
edinburgh

 
 Hi,
 
   what's the best method to move some rows of some tables 
 of a user
 from one database to another database on another server? I 
 need a step by
 step document to achieve this.
 
 Thanks,
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RE: UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Stephane Faroult

Hi All,

I remember that a number of people were all for
getting together on the
Monday night at the UKOUG. I *don't* remember us
actually arranging a
place/time.. ;) Is there any chance of another show
of hands so that we can
see if we'll need to book a table or not. And has
*anybody* had any thoughts
on a place at all?

See you all soon!

Mark


Count me in. Not familiar enough with Brum to suggest a place, though.

Regards,

Stephane Faroult
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oracle precompiler in O 9.2

2002-12-03 Thread Markus Reger
hello to everybody

I'm desperately looking for precompiler e.g. proc in the installation of O 9.2. can't 
find libproc2.a is the message when I try do creat. doesn't seem to be an installation 
issue, because no kind of installation offers the(se) file(s). 
precompilers did exist in 9.0.1 - but they don't exist any more in 9.2.0 neither SunOS 
nor LINUX.

has anybody any idea?

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Re: 9i database create script - My, how things have changed

2002-12-03 Thread Connor McDonald
Some simple options:

1) The 9.x installer still gives the option of
creating scripts in the old fashioned way.  The key is
not to choose a template database.  A little
scrubbing and they work fine...but man do they take a
while to create a db nowadays.

2) My preferred option is to create a skeleton db with
just system/undo/temp/pfile (using the installer or
otherwise) and get everything just right.  Then zip it
up with the text of a create controlfile and voila!
You have a db ready to go - whenever you need a new
one, you just unzip, hack the controlfile to rename it
and bingo...super quick and be definition, all your
databases have the same basic starting point

hth
connor

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 8.1.7 *.bat's work quite well for 'em.
 
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image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread oraora oraora
Guys , i posted this already and this time my question is a bit 
different .

I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either in DB ( on 
win2k) or linux o/s file system.

the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so the time to 
retrieve the images should be minimum.

  for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether the images
  should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?

  --selecting a file from linux o/s file system ---
   or
  --querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k) ---

  which of the above will be faster ?

all these will be done with java . this being condition , i 
would
  like to know ur suggestion guys.

  my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.

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RE: UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Robson, Peter
Count me in on this, Mark -

As for a 'table' - presupposes a venue in which to find said article of
furniture...(!) no idea on that, but there are places out the back of the
ICC as I recall which might be suitable.

peter
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 Hi All,
 
 I remember that a number of people were all for getting 
 together on the
 Monday night at the UKOUG. I *don't* remember us actually arranging a
 place/time.. ;) Is there any chance of another show of hands 
 so that we can
 see if we'll need to book a table or not. And has *anybody* 
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 on a place at all?
 
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Re: process memory utilization

2002-12-03 Thread chao_ping
chao_ping,
It seems i am posting a too long question, so nobody is interested.
I post the answer to my second question, to check the memory 
utilization in linux operation system.
It is in  /proc/spid/status file.





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Hi,dba friends:
   I am thinking of measure how much memory per connection used, from the os 
viewpoint and oracle viewpoint. And this is my result from my production server, and 
i have some questions below.

   
23:56:28 SQL  select sum(value),sum(value)/count(distinct sid) average from 
v$sesstat where statistic#=15; --uga

  SUM(VALUE)  AVERAGE
 
  69,098,528  145,777
 
23:58:09 SQLselect sum(value),sum(value)/count(distinct sid),max(value)  from 
v$sesstat where statistic#=20  --pga

  SUM(VALUE) SUM(VALUE)/COUNT(DISTINCTSID)   MAX(VALUE)
 - 
 265,290,648559,684.9117,510,184

   There is about my production server(oracle817+solaris7), and I also used pmap 
to trace some process and it look like:
oracle@main-db1$pmap 11443   #some process id i which is choosed randomly via 
/usr/ucb/ps -aux.
11443:  oraclebiddb (LOCAL=NO)
0001  29440K read/exec 
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/bin/oracle
000101DBE000464K read/write/exec   
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/bin/oracle
000101E32000   1440K read/write/exec [ heap ]
00038000 5685720K read/write/exec/shared  [ shmid=0x65 ]
7D80 16K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libmp.so.2
7D902000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libmp.so.2
7DA0 88K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libm.so.1
7DB14000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libm.so.1
7DC0  8K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libkstat.so.1
7DD0  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libkstat.so.1
7DE0 32K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/librt.so.1
7DF06000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/librt.so.1
7E00 24K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libaio.so.1
7E104000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libaio.so.1
7E20704K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libc.so.1
7E3AE000 64K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libc.so.1
7E3BE000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7E40  8K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsched.so.1
7E50  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsched.so.1
7E60 32K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libgen.so.1
7E706000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libgen.so.1
7E80 40K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsocket.so.1
7E908000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsocket.so.1
7EA0624K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libnsl.so.1
7EB9A000 64K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libnsl.so.1
7EBAA000 32K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7EC0   3896K read/exec 
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib/libjox8.so
7F0CC000192K read/write/exec   
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib/libjox8.so
7F0FC000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F30 40K read/exec 
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libdsbtsh8.so
7F408000  8K read/write/exec   
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libdsbtsh8.so
7F40A000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F50  8K read/exec 
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libskgxp8.so
7F60  8K read/write/exec   
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libskgxp8.so
7F68128K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/ld.so.1
7F79 16K read/exec 
/usr/platform/sun4u/lib/sparcv9/libc_psr.so.1
7F79E000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/ld.so.1
7F7A  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7B  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7C  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7D  8K read/write/exec/shared   [ anon ]
7F7E  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7F  8K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libdl.so.1
7FFEE000 72K read/write  [ stack ]
 total  5723336K

and i compared it with oracle statistics:
00:11:59 SQL @whoisit
00:12:02 SQL col machine format a30
00:12:02 SQL col program format a40
00:12:02 SQL set line 200
00:12:02 SQL  select sid,serial# 
,username,osuser,machine,program,process,to_char(logon_time,'/mm/dd hh24:mi:ss')
00:12:02   2   from v$session where paddr in(
00:12:02   3   select addr from v$process where spid in(spid));
Enter 

OMF question

2002-12-03 Thread Tinu [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi !

I 've a question regarding OMF realted parameter 
CREATE_DB_ONLINE_LOG_N. Now y is'nt this parameter mentioned in the list of 
parameters in the Oracle Documenttion cd of 9i. Is it obsolete or oracle does 
not recommend it's use.

regards
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RE: error 472

2002-12-03 Thread cjgait







Ora-472 is a very non-specific PMON error. You've probably already worked 
through this with support using a TAR, but if you still are having problems and 
wanted to post the following it would help:

The stack trace from your pmon traces (they'll either be in bdump or udump, and by 
stack trace I mean just the section of the trace near the beginning with lines like 
this: 
- Call Stack Trace -
calling  call entryargument values in hex  
location type point(? means dubious value) 
   
ssexhd   +  256   ksedst   1D15 ? 0 ? A ? 0 ?
ssexhd   +8   ssexhd   7F7F8678 ? 4011CA78 ?
   4011E170 ? 4011CAE8 ?
Adr: 0xC01D072C   Adr: 0xC020FE10  7F7F82C0 ? 55 ? 400FE9A0 ?
   400F4B38 ?
nioqrc   +  596   Adr: 0xC01D072C  7F7F82C0 ? 55 ? 400FE9A0 ?
   400F4B38 ?
nioqrc   +8   nioqrc   400EF530 ? 47 ? 7F7F6B44 ?

The version of the RDBMS, OS, etc.

Regards,
Chris Gait


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 There is nothing vaguely resembling anything helpful in either the core dump
 or the PMON file.  That is where the boat load of metalink docs say to
 start, but there is nothing in there that is in any way indicative of what
 is going on.
 
 Driving me nuts!  There is no real commonality in when it crashes.  
 
 April Wells
 Oracle DBA 
 Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds
 -- Albert Einstein
 
 
 
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 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:59 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Did you look in the PMON trace file? Does anything appear there that might
 shed some light on the problem?
 
 RF
 
 Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
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 I have cloned an 8.1.7.0 database from another instance (clone doc from
 metalink for Apps) on AIX 4.3.3.  I don't THINK this is connected to the
 clone or (directly) to apps.
 
 Since I brought the database back up after the clone successfully, it keeps
 crashing with pick a process terminating instance due to error 472 
 
 It comes back when I start it.
 
 The interval between startup and crash appears arbitrary.
 
 What can be accomplished while the database is up is logical stuff... I can
 run apps jobs, I can update and select from tables, I can do ddl, I can
 manually log switch.
 
 Metalink has BOAT LOADS of docs on this happening, but I haven't found
 anything that I am permitted to see that has a resolution.  I have an Itar,
 but that is not yet yielding any information.
 
 Has anyone seen similar problems, and (if so) IS there a resolution?
 
 Thanks in advance for any advice
 ajw
 
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RE: UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Hately, Mike (NESL-IT)
Mark,

yes, I'll be there and Monday night is fine. I don't know the area at all so
can't suggest venues but I'm not choosy regarding food so anywhere should do
for me.

Cheers,
Mike

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Hi All,

I remember that a number of people were all for getting together on the
Monday night at the UKOUG. I *don't* remember us actually arranging a
place/time.. ;) Is there any chance of another show of hands so that we can
see if we'll need to book a table or not. And has *anybody* had any thoughts
on a place at all?

See you all soon!

Mark
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RE:

2002-12-03 Thread Naveen Nahata



I don't know whether people do it on purpose or they are still unaware 
after so many similar postings of the same nature and replies of 'ARE YOU AN 
IDIOT', but it does result in a plethora of responses which create unnecessary 
hassles.

Jared, why not parse messages for these commands and send the reply back 
to the postersimilar towhat is done with the vacation Auto-reply 
messages?

Regards
Naveen

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RE:

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Leith



Must.. 
resist urge...

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HELP


RE: process memory utilization

2002-12-03 Thread John.Hallas
I posted a similar question recently and whilst I received some answers I
never did discover an exact way of matching oracle use of memory with unix
use of memory.
One issue is that when oracle releases memory the unix process does not
automatically do the same until the memory is required. Therefore it is
likely that there will always be a difference.
Tim Gorman pointed me to a script oramem.sh (www.evdbt.com/tools.htm) which
does what you are doing with a pmap function which is quite useful
The discussion was around 4/10/02 and the thread title was How much memory
is an oracle shadow process using

John

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chao_ping,
It seems i am posting a too long question, so nobody is
interested.
I post the answer to my second question, to check the memory
utilization in linux operation system.
It is in  /proc/spid/status file.





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=== 2002-12-02 08:34:00 ,you wrote£º===

Hi,dba friends:
   I am thinking of measure how much memory per connection used, from
the os viewpoint and oracle viewpoint. And this is my result from my
production server, and i have some questions below.

   
23:56:28 SQL  select sum(value),sum(value)/count(distinct sid) average
from v$sesstat where statistic#=15; --uga

  SUM(VALUE)  AVERAGE
 
  69,098,528  145,777
 
23:58:09 SQLselect sum(value),sum(value)/count(distinct sid),max(value)
from v$sesstat where statistic#=20  --pga

  SUM(VALUE) SUM(VALUE)/COUNT(DISTINCTSID)   MAX(VALUE)
 - 
 265,290,648559,684.9117,510,184

   There is about my production server(oracle817+solaris7), and I also
used pmap to trace some process and it look like:
oracle@main-db1$pmap 11443   #some process id i which is choosed randomly
via /usr/ucb/ps -aux.
11443:  oraclebiddb (LOCAL=NO)
0001  29440K read/exec
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/bin/oracle
000101DBE000464K read/write/exec
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/bin/oracle
000101E32000   1440K read/write/exec [ heap ]
00038000 5685720K read/write/exec/shared  [ shmid=0x65 ]
7D80 16K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libmp.so.2
7D902000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libmp.so.2
7DA0 88K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libm.so.1
7DB14000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libm.so.1
7DC0  8K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libkstat.so.1
7DD0  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libkstat.so.1
7DE0 32K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/librt.so.1
7DF06000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/librt.so.1
7E00 24K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libaio.so.1
7E104000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libaio.so.1
7E20704K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libc.so.1
7E3AE000 64K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libc.so.1
7E3BE000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7E40  8K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsched.so.1
7E50  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsched.so.1
7E60 32K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libgen.so.1
7E706000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libgen.so.1
7E80 40K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsocket.so.1
7E908000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsocket.so.1
7EA0624K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libnsl.so.1
7EB9A000 64K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libnsl.so.1
7EBAA000 32K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7EC0   3896K read/exec
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib/libjox8.so
7F0CC000192K read/write/exec
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib/libjox8.so
7F0FC000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F30 40K read/exec
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libdsbtsh8.so
7F408000  8K read/write/exec
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libdsbtsh8.so
7F40A000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F50  8K read/exec
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libskgxp8.so
7F60  8K read/write/exec
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libskgxp8.so
7F68128K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/ld.so.1
7F79 16K read/exec
/usr/platform/sun4u/lib/sparcv9/libc_psr.so.1
7F79E000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/ld.so.1
7F7A  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7B  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7C  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7D  

RE: OMF question

2002-12-03 Thread John.Hallas
There is a OMF related parameter called db_create_online_log_dest_n.
This defines where the online redo logs are created. The value n can vary
from 1 to 5 and it allows for upto 5 multiplexed copies opf each redo log
group member.
 
HTH
 
John 

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Hi !
 
I 've a question regarding OMF realted parameter CREATE_DB_ONLINE_LOG_N. Now
y is'nt this parameter mentioned in the list of parameters in the Oracle
Documenttion cd of 9i. Is it obsolete or oracle does not recommend it's use.
 
regards
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Re: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread Connor McDonald
Managing 20mil of anything (images/text/etc) in a file
system isn't a nice proposition.  Go with the database

hth
connor

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 I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either
 in DB ( on 
 win2k) or linux o/s file system.
 
 the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so
 the time to 
 retrieve the images should be minimum.
 
   for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether
 the images
   should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?
 
   --selecting a file from linux o/s file system
 ---
or
   --querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k)
 ---
 
   which of the above will be faster ?
 
 all these will be done with java . this being
 condition , i 
 would
   like to know ur suggestion guys.
 
   my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.
 
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Re: OMF question

2002-12-03 Thread Connor McDonald
Its in the 9.2 doco

hth
connor

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RE: OMF question

2002-12-03 Thread brain_damage
John ,
I meant the same param.apologies ,i misplaced db and create. Is this
parameter obsolete (with 9i) coz its not mentioned in the Documentation
(9i) list of initialization parameters. Only db_create_file_dest is
present in the doc.

Thanx !

best regards
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Re: Apps 11i on Red Hat 8.0

2002-12-03 Thread Markus Reger
installed O92010 on rh 8.0. went fine so far until I tried to connect via oemapp 
console - whatever connectdescripter I chose in resulted in the error string not 
properly terminated. same connect descriptors in the CLI worked fine - made them 
available in the oemapp console and got the error message.
didn't investigate any further into this - experienced it twice on two different 
machines. changed back to rh7.2 and things were fine again.

thats all I can contribute.
kr

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Anyone care to share any experiences installing Apps 11i release 7 on RH
8.0? I'm about to give it a go in the next couple of days - and would
appreciate hearing about your experiences.

I note that SUSE 7.1 seems to be the only officially certified distro.
H.

Oracle Trivia Question: If you order the Oracle Apps 11i Release 7 suite
from Oracle how many CD's do you get?
Answer: 54 (yes thats right, fifty four CD's) - the mind boggles. No wonder
they don't let you download the thing :-)

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which bind variable value causes ora-1722

2002-12-03 Thread mike ding
Hi, all,

My developer continually got ora-1722 when he was installing a new billing
system. I used 10046 event to get trace file, but i could not figure out
which bind variable value causes the error, here is the part of trace:

PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=229 dep=0 uid=62 oct=2 lid=62 tim=807252370
hv=4084410285 ad='9f31e880'
insert into fold_bal_impacts_t ( element_id, fixed_operand, flags,
free_quantity, gl_id, scaled_operand, rec_id, obj_id0 ) values (
:element_id, :fixed_operand, :flags, :free_quantity, :gl_id,
:scaled_operand, :rec_id, :obj_id0 )
END OF STMT
PARSE #1:c=0,e=1,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=0,tim=807252370
BINDS #1:
 bind 0: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=0 size=224
offset=0
   bfp=018bacd0 bln=22 avl=03 flg=05
   value=250
 bind 1: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=10 size=0
offset=24
   bfp=018bace8 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
   value=0
 bind 2: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=0 size=0
offset=56
   bfp=018bad08 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
   value=0
 bind 3: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=10 size=0
offset=80
   bfp=018bad20 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
   value=0
 bind 4: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=0 size=0
offset=112
   bfp=018bad40 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
   value=0
 bind 5: dty=1 mxl=32(07) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=10 size=0
offset=136
   bfp=018bad58 bln=32 avl=07 flg=01
   value=6.55802
 bind 6: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=0 size=0
offset=168
   bfp=018bad78 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
   value=0
 bind 7: dty=1 mxl=32(05) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=10 size=0
offset=192
   bfp=018bad90 bln=32 avl=05 flg=01
   value=10382
EXEC #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=2,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=3,tim=807252370
ERROR #1:err=1722 tim=807252370


And here is the table:

SQLdesc fold_bal_impacts_t
 NameNull?Type
 ---  
 OBJ_ID0  NUMBER(38)
 REC_ID   NUMBER(38)
 ELEMENT_ID   NUMBER(38)
 FIXED_OPERANDNUMBER
 FLAGSNUMBER(38)
 FREE_QUANTITYNUMBER
 GL_IDNUMBER(38)
 SCALED_OPERAND   NUMBER

And there is no any constraints on this table.

Please help, thanks.

Mike

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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-03 Thread Miller, Jay
Ron,

Good idea, but DEGREE=1

There are two indexes, but they are in a different tablespace (which has
plenty of free space available and did not give an error).

Next extent size is 25M but, as mentioned, it shouldn't have needed a new
extent.

I'm still at a loss...

Jay

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what degree of parallelism is
defined for the table?
What is the next extent size set to?
If the table is paralleled, EACH parallel worker will grab a next extent
sized segment. (Been bit by
this a few times...)
How many indexes and are they in the same tablespace?

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Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

Jay

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Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

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 Rachel,

 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.

 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.

 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you in person some time.
  Have
 you
 talked to Priscilla lately?

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 how would coalescing help even if there were a lot of smaller free
 extents? Oracle would do the coalesce automatically, there would be
 no
 difference between manually coalescing or allowing Oracle to do it
 when
 a new extent was needed.


 --- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Coalescing might help if there are many smaller free extents
  that can be coalesced.  But that still doesn't solve Jay's problem.
  Because he doesn't want the table to extent at all since he just
  deleted
  2 million rows so there are plenty of space within the segment
  itself.
  Those free blocks should be used, unless he is doing a direct path
  insert
  which will only use space above the HWM.
 
  Richard Ji
 
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  did u coalesced the tablespaces?
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: sexta-feira, 29 de Novembro de 2002 17:59
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Okay, I can't figure this one out.  Earlier this week I got an
  ORA-1653:
  unable to extend table on a really big table.  However this was
 just
  after I
  had deleted over 2 million rows in the table and we were only
  inserting
  30,000.
 
  After reanalyzing the table I saw the following stats in
 DBA_TABLES:
 
  num_freelist_blocks:  2266966
  avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895
 
  Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over 8Gig available
 for
  inserts.
 
  We tried the insert again and got the same error so I added a
  datafile and
  it went through (using about 40Meg of space in the new datafile).
 
  Why isn't it making use of the existing blocks on the freelist?
 
  Oracle 8.1.7.2
  Solaris 2.6
  PCTFREE = 10
  PCTUSED = 75
  Block Size = 4K
 
 
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Re: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread Arup Nanda
Connor,

I seem to think otherwise. Storing 100 GB of image is not necessarily a
pretty proposition either when you consider hot backups and archived log
generation, etc. I presume you are concerned about the management of the
image files considering the sheer volume of it. But that's precisely what
BFILE is expected to help with. The images are in a file ssytem and the
pointers are in the database and that's managed pretty well.

However I do concede tht this might pose a problem on two fronts -
(1) Security - beign on filesystem anyone can potentially see these. However
this is not necesarily a concern at all sites. Good OS security can prevent
this.
(2) Backup - the ssy admin has to explicitly backup all these files. This,
again, may not be that bad when you store your files on a single filesystem
and a backup software can be easily programmed to check only the changed
files,  based on timestamp.

Just my two cents.

Arup Nanda

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 Managing 20mil of anything (images/text/etc) in a file
 system isn't a nice proposition.  Go with the database

 hth
 connor

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  question is a bit
  different .
 
  I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either
  in DB ( on
  win2k) or linux o/s file system.
 
  the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so
  the time to
  retrieve the images should be minimum.
 
for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether
  the images
should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?
 
--selecting a file from linux o/s file system
  ---
 or
--querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k)
  ---
 
which of the above will be faster ?
 
  all these will be done with java . this being
  condition , i
  would
like to know ur suggestion guys.
 
my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.
 
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RE: oracle precompiler in O 9.2

2002-12-03 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
If PreCompilers were installed, check in $ORACLE_HOME/precomp/lib* directories. 
Also, check your path, ld library path. 

Here's what I get (9iR2 on HP-UX). 

/u01/home/oracle/product/9.2.0
hp102 [KED9]: find . -name libproc2.a -print
./precomp/lib32/libproc2.a
./precomp/lib/libproc2.a

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hello to everybody

I'm desperately looking for precompiler e.g. proc in the installation of O 9.2. can't 
find libproc2.a is the message when I try do creat. doesn't seem to be an installation 
issue, because no kind of installation offers the(se) file(s). 
precompilers did exist in 9.0.1 - but they don't exist any more in 9.2.0 neither SunOS 
nor LINUX.

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RE: oracle precompiler in O 9.2

2002-12-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: oracle precompiler in O 9.2





SQL exit
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hello to everybody


I'm desperately looking for precompiler e.g. proc in the installation of O 9.2. can't find libproc2.a is the message when I try do creat. doesn't seem to be an installation issue, because no kind of installation offers the(se) file(s). 

precompilers did exist in 9.0.1 - but they don't exist any more in 9.2.0 neither SunOS nor LINUX.


has anybody any idea?


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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Post, Ethan
For reasons too long to go in to, go buy a tool is not a good option for
my purposes.  Besides, why buy what I can build?  These are exactly the sort
of challenges that make my job worth coming to.

Thanks,
Ethan


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Yup, got that covered :)

If I may add another point. When dealing with SLA's, you not only have to
show that the database has been servicing users that are connected
(showing database uptime), but also that users can also *connect* to the
database as well (the listener is servicing requests).

If you were to go about this with a trigger/procedure that inserts in to a
table, then this doesn't show that the database was available to
everybody.

Typically what we do with monitoring tools is a connect on ping, so when
we are checking availability of a database we do a full connect, then
select 'PING' from dual;. If there are any errors along the way we search
for the error code, and deal with the appropriate alerts (TNS = Listener
problem, ORA = Database problem).

Of course, the problem with doing it this way, is that you are going to have
to write platform dependant scripts (batches for NT, shell type scripts for
Unix), and not have a one for all with a database based solution.

Go buy a tool. Let it write to a table/file, alert you AND make the coffee
for when you get there! ;)

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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure





Go buy a tool? Here is an idea instead ...


Write a small Perl (pick your favorite language here) script that looks at /etc/oratab followed by a check to see if each of the instances listed in /etc/oratab is up on the side where it is checking. It then log in as a schema (we call it) called heartbeat, insert a row into a table with sysdate. Wait 3 seconds, retrieve the row and checks the time difference. If it is more than 5 seconds, you have a potential delay somewhere and have it alert appropriate people. (If it is night, page your VP with This is your heartbeat calling ... we have a problem ...) 

Life is great with cron ...
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RE: 9i database create script - My, how things have changed

2002-12-03 Thread Cornio, Georgette Ms USACFSC
Title: 9i database create script - My, how things have changed



I 
followed the same procedure as 8.1.7 to make the scripts and modified 
them

What 
part does not work, no mo ?



  -Original Message-From: Jeremy Pulcifer 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 
  15:54To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 9i 
  database create script - My, how things have changed
  ...since 8.1.7. I've always ran the database creation utility, 
  then swiped the scripts outta the admin\[sid]\create\ directory, scrubbed 'em 
  a bit, and let er rip. My consultants create/install new db's quite 
  frequently, and the 8.1.7 *.bat's work quite well for 'em.
  However, as I'm sure you've all figgered out already, this 
  don't work no mo. I've taken some cursory rambles thru orafaq, but came out 
  more confused than I came in. I don't want to rely on installing perl or 
  Oracle DCA on each machine, as the consultants I'm supporting aren't going to 
  be too keen on having to go from their current "hit the .bat and wait til it 
  says all done" MO.
  So, I'm sure a solution or twenty has been put together for 
  NT/Windows. Care to share? I'm sure I could re-invent this particular wheel, 
  but my boss keeps hollering at me for stuff that I'm actually supposed to 
  produce, so If'n I can turn this one around in a reasonable time, I'd be much 
  abliged.


RE: oracle precompiler in O 9.2

2002-12-03 Thread Hemant K Chitale

The ORACLE_HOME is /usr/opt/oracle/current ?
I have read of /usr/opt being used, [although I generally
use
/u0x/app or /oracle/app or
/orasys/app depending on the standard'
at the site] but not current -- I generally still use
[the OFA standard]
./product/Version.Release.MaintenanceRelease
Hemant
At 06:32 AM 03-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
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Subject: oracle precompiler in O 9.2 
hello to everybody 
I'm desperately looking for precompiler e.g. proc in the installation of O 9.2. can't find libproc2.a is the message when I try do creat. doesn't seem to be an installation issue, because no kind of installation offers the(se) file(s). 

precompilers did exist in 9.0.1 - but they don't exist any more in 9.2.0 neither SunOS nor LINUX. 
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FW: UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Leith
Hi all,

After with some deliberation with Peter Robson, we've come to a decision (I
think!) ;) Please see below (a cba to type it all again ;P).

Basics, meet up at around 7 (which is when the reception *starts* to see if
we can all get together for the party as well. If we can't all get in, the
non-attendees will go to a pub behind the ICC (first on the right at the top
of the stairs over the canal bridge), and wait for the rest to arrive later.

What'ya think?

Ta

Mark

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Mark -

That looks good to me ...

Quick points


 Hi Peter,

 Sounds good to me. If we say in the foyer, where
 registrations take place
 (at the top of the escalators), and just look for the ever
 growing group of
 shifty characters :) Looking at the Conference Agenda
 that's been sent
 through, it says that the Welcome Drinks Reception and Party starts at
 18:55 - Late.

 Gerry and I are only attending the conference on Monday, so
 are going on the
 Free conference pass as well. Not sure whether this means
 they will dole

Yes, my position too.

Do you have a stand here this year? If so, obviously you get in during the
evening. If not, then we may have to blag our way. Which could be difficult
for 250 people... !



 the booze out to us either (we can always *try* ;P). It may
 be the case that
 those that aren't on a full pass go over first to get on
 their merry way,
 and the ones attending the welcome party join after a while..
 I guess that
 will have to be an on-site decision.

 For a place, as you suggested the best area is probably
 behind the ICC at
 one of the bar/cafes there. I'm thinking the one at the top
 of the steps
 from the bridge, on the right hand side (a bar that has some
 good sized
 wooden tables, for a group to sit around. I can't for the life of me
 remember the name of it at the moment though..


Then it is indeed the very place I recall from two years ago, and ideal with
those big tables. Yes, lets go there.




 So, meet at 7:00pm at the conference registration area. Bar
 over the canal
 at the top of the steps on the right, meeting times through
 the evening if
 need be, though we may all be able to wing it in to the main
 hall for a
 while in the evening..

 Shall we copy this in to the list?

Yes, good idea Mark - lets go with that. Would you like to circulate?



peter


ps - if I recall conversations with Gerry, you are son-of, yes? And were
responsible for your Cool web site, yes? I thought it was pretty good - I'm
going to get some hints from you when we meet up...! Am running two myself,
but strictly no frills. Both database.





 If so, you can just send a
 copy of mine
 out if you like.

 Cheers

 Mark

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 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: UKOUG Meet.


 Mark -

 We need a meeting-point, Why don't you suggest to readers
 that we meet at
 'x' location at 'y' time?

 No strong feelings myself, but as an exhibitor-attendee only,
 not sure if I
 will get access to the floor in the evening.

 What about x = adjacent to registration desks letter 'X'?!

 'y' to be determined...

 peter
 edinburgh

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  Subject: UKOUG Meet.
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  I remember that a number of people were all for getting
  together on the
  Monday night at the UKOUG. I *don't* remember us actually
 arranging a
  place/time.. ;) Is there any chance of another show of hands
  so that we can
  see if we'll need to book a table or not. And has *anybody*
  had any thoughts
  on a place at all?
 
  See you all soon!
 
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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Rachel Carmichael
and that select 'PING' from dual is very costly. I believe Gaja, Cary,
Anjo, and a few others (who were nice enough to include me on the
thread)  determined that before 9i Oracle takes about 5 LIOs to do a
select anything from dual. I think it went down to either 3 or 4 in
9i but that's still VERY costly.

Dan Fink has that discussion summarized on his site:

http://www.optimaldba.com/internals/oraint_dual.html


Rachel
--- Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yup, got that covered :)
 
 If I may add another point. When dealing with SLA's, you not only
 have to
 show that the database has been servicing users that are connected
 (showing database uptime), but also that users can also *connect* to
 the
 database as well (the listener is servicing requests).
 
 If you were to go about this with a trigger/procedure that inserts in
 to a
 table, then this doesn't show that the database was available to
 everybody.
 
 Typically what we do with monitoring tools is a connect on ping, so
 when
 we are checking availability of a database we do a full connect, then
 select 'PING' from dual;. If there are any errors along the way we
 search
 for the error code, and deal with the appropriate alerts (TNS =
 Listener
 problem, ORA = Database problem).
 
 Of course, the problem with doing it this way, is that you are going
 to have
 to write platform dependant scripts (batches for NT, shell type
 scripts for
 Unix), and not have a one for all with a database based solution.
 
 Go buy a tool. Let it write to a table/file, alert you AND make the
 coffee
 for when you get there! ;)
 
 Mark
 
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Perhaps there is a poor mans way of doing this.  The startup
 trigger
 could fire a procedure that inserts a row into a table and then
 sleeps for
 1 minute before doing the same again.  Effectively it would create a
 ping
 in the table, which you could then analyze / graph to display
 uptimes.
 
 The next logical step would be to increase the intelligence of the
 procedure.  The table storing the statistic could consist of two
 columns -
 uptime and downtime.  When the startup trigger fires it creates a new
 row
 in the table with both uptime and downtime set to sysdate.  It then
 sleeps
 for a minute before updating downtime for the most recent record
 (either
 remember a primary key or search for max(uptime)).  This would be
 much
 easier to understand when the database was stopped / started.
 
 Of course depending on your accuracy requirement, granularity could
 be
 changed to every 5 minutes, 10 minutes, whatever.
 
 Hopefully that gives some ideas though.  Of course the 3rd party
 monitors
 that Jared mentions are worth considering if the database is
 considered
 critical.  In that case the number one requirement is probably the
 ability
 to page / SMS / email when it sees the database is down.
 
 Regards,
  Mark.
 
 
 
 
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 Ethan,
 
 That records the startup times, but does not record the time
 that the database was unavailable.
 
 What's needed is a 3rd party monitor that is not dependent
 on the database being up to record metrics.
 
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 Just a thought here for a script I think would be handy but I haven't
 had
 time to write.
 
 It is would be a simple procedure you could call to get the service
 level
 for a particular database.  I suppose you would have to have some
 sort of
 way of defining normal outage windows.  Basically a startup trigger
 would
 log the times in a table.  You should also check the startup time
 against
 the last startup time periodically to ensure the trigger always
 fires.
 Somehow a procedure/function should be able to use this information
 to
 report the service level for the database within the last
 (week/month/quarter/year).
 
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 to
 get
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RE: UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Rachel Carmichael
a table presumes there will be only a few of you there

by my count, which is admittedly low, you folk are already at 8


--- Robson, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Count me in on this, Mark -
 
 As for a 'table' - presupposes a venue in which to find said article
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 furniture...(!) no idea on that, but there are places out the back of
 the
 ICC as I recall which might be suitable.
 
 peter
 edinburgh
 
 
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install of 64 and 32 bit

2002-12-03 Thread Ehresmann, David
I am going to install 64 bit Oracle 8.1.7 on AIX 5L (5.1).  There is already
32 bit Oracle on the box.  Any suggestions or advice I would appreciate.

thanks,

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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Leith
Title: RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure



Dang, 
I just new that would cause a stir!

;P
Mark 
Running away now Leith

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  Trigger/Procedure
  Go buy a tool? Here is an idea instead ... 
  Write a small Perl (pick your favorite language here) script 
  that looks at /etc/oratab followed by a check to see if each of the instances 
  listed in /etc/oratab is up on the side where it is checking. It then log in 
  as a schema (we call it) called heartbeat, insert a row into a table with 
  sysdate. Wait 3 seconds, retrieve the row and checks the time difference. If 
  it is more than 5 seconds, you have a potential delay somewhere and have it 
  alert appropriate people. (If it is night, page your VP with "This is your 
  heartbeat calling ... we have a problem" ...) 
  Life is great with "cron" ... HTH Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni 
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RE: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread Fink, Dan
Excellent points all around. I am dealing with these issues currently. The
original design was to use BFILE and external files. Now, they are leaning
towards BLOBs. Here are some points to consider.

If the system design calls for a standby or other backup site, you have to
remember to replicate database and external changes.
Recovery of the database may require restoration of external files.
If you use BFILEs, are they on a dedicated drive or sharing space with other
data/files?
If you use BLOBs and they are not updated, set them in separate tablespaces
and make the ts read only. Backup once and then take it out of the backup
cycle, but make sure you save the backup for a good, long time!

Dan Fink

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Connor,

I seem to think otherwise. Storing 100 GB of image is not necessarily a
pretty proposition either when you consider hot backups and archived log
generation, etc. I presume you are concerned about the management of the
image files considering the sheer volume of it. But that's precisely what
BFILE is expected to help with. The images are in a file ssytem and the
pointers are in the database and that's managed pretty well.

However I do concede tht this might pose a problem on two fronts -
(1) Security - beign on filesystem anyone can potentially see these. However
this is not necesarily a concern at all sites. Good OS security can prevent
this.
(2) Backup - the ssy admin has to explicitly backup all these files. This,
again, may not be that bad when you store your files on a single filesystem
and a backup software can be easily programmed to check only the changed
files,  based on timestamp.

Just my two cents.

Arup Nanda

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 Managing 20mil of anything (images/text/etc) in a file
 system isn't a nice proposition.  Go with the database

 hth
 connor

  --- oraora  oraora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Guys , i posted this already and this time my
  question is a bit
  different .
 
  I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either
  in DB ( on
  win2k) or linux o/s file system.
 
  the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so
  the time to
  retrieve the images should be minimum.
 
for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether
  the images
should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?
 
--selecting a file from linux o/s file system
  ---
 or
--querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k)
  ---
 
which of the above will be faster ?
 
  all these will be done with java . this being
  condition , i
  would
like to know ur suggestion guys.
 
my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.
 
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Re: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread Stephane Paquette
You should/must do a benchmark.
If not, how can you justify your decision ?
If your management do not ask for a benchmack then you
have bad management (and that's no good for you
either...)

Anyway, in a previous life, we did a benchmarck with
files of similar size and it was faster on the OS.
The environment was Oracle 816/Sun with Vignette Story
Server.

HTH

 --- oraora  oraora [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
:  Guys , i posted this already and this time my
 question is a bit 
 different .
 
 I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either
 in DB ( on 
 win2k) or linux o/s file system.
 
 the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so
 the time to 
 retrieve the images should be minimum.
 
   for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether
 the images
   should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?
 
   --selecting a file from linux o/s file system
 ---
or
   --querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k)
 ---
 
   which of the above will be faster ?
 
 all these will be done with java . this being
 condition , i 
 would
   like to know ur suggestion guys.
 
   my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.
 
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RE: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
oraora
   I've provided a couple of thoughts before in response to this issue, but
I think that the only way you will get a satisfactory answer is to code a
simple test. I hope someone else has extensive experience with 5k images and
will reply to you. However, I think the answer to your question will vary
quite a bit, depending for example on image size. The experience of someone
based on 50k images, for example might not give you a good result. The
answer may also depend on the operating system itself. The fact that you are
using Java for access may also make a difference compared other languages. I
think that you are going to have to code it both ways and run a few tests.
If performance is really, really important to your company, you are probably
going to be testing quite a few programming alternatives.
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Lifetouch, Inc.
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Guys , i posted this already and this time my question is a bit 
different .

I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either in DB ( on 
win2k) or linux o/s file system.

the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so the time to 
retrieve the images should be minimum.

  for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether the images
  should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?

  --selecting a file from linux o/s file system ---
   or
  --querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k) ---

  which of the above will be faster ?

all these will be done with java . this being condition , i 
would
  like to know ur suggestion guys.

  my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.

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hopefully this is not too old news

2002-12-03 Thread JOE TESTA



but i just logged in metalstink after a few weeks and noticed:

Oracle announces the extension of Error Correction and Extended Maintenance 
Support for Oracle Database 9i Release 1 (9.0.1). 


  
  
Support
Original Date
Extended 
Date
  
Error Correction Support (ECS)
June 30, 2003
December 31, 2003
  
Extended Assistance Support (EAS)
June 30, 2006
December 31, 2006

an extension till end of 2003 for ECS on 9ir1.

joe



RE:

2002-12-03 Thread Jared . Still
I don't manage the mail list software, Bruce Bergman does.

Though these are a minor annoyance, I personally wouldn't
bother writing code/rules to eliminate these. 

Just hit DELETE

Jared






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I don't know whether people do it on purpose or they are still unaware 
after so many similar postings of the same nature and replies of 'ARE YOU 
AN IDIOT', but it does result in a plethora of responses which create 
unnecessary hassles.
 
Jared, why not parse messages for these commands and send the reply back 
to the poster similar to what is done with the vacation Auto-reply 
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Regards
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Re: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread Jared . Still
Arup,

What Connor may have been referring to is the inefficiency
of managing 20 million files in a filesystem.

That's a lot of inodes ( assuming unix ).  It's a bit much
for a filesystem to deal with.

Jared






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Connor,

I seem to think otherwise. Storing 100 GB of image is not necessarily a
pretty proposition either when you consider hot backups and archived log
generation, etc. I presume you are concerned about the management of the
image files considering the sheer volume of it. But that's precisely what
BFILE is expected to help with. The images are in a file ssytem and the
pointers are in the database and that's managed pretty well.

However I do concede tht this might pose a problem on two fronts -
(1) Security - beign on filesystem anyone can potentially see these. 
However
this is not necesarily a concern at all sites. Good OS security can 
prevent
this.
(2) Backup - the ssy admin has to explicitly backup all these files. This,
again, may not be that bad when you store your files on a single 
filesystem
and a backup software can be easily programmed to check only the changed
files,  based on timestamp.

Just my two cents.

Arup Nanda

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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 7:39 AM


 Managing 20mil of anything (images/text/etc) in a file
 system isn't a nice proposition.  Go with the database

 hth
 connor

  --- oraora  oraora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Guys , i posted this already and this time my
  question is a bit
  different .
 
  I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either
  in DB ( on
  win2k) or linux o/s file system.
 
  the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so
  the time to
  retrieve the images should be minimum.
 
for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether
  the images
should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?
 
--selecting a file from linux o/s file system
  ---
 or
--querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k)
  ---
 
which of the above will be faster ?
 
  all these will be done with java . this being
  condition , i
  would
like to know ur suggestion guys.
 
my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.
 
  TIA
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Re: OMF question

2002-12-03 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
And each of the threads can be defined as either mandatory (the 
archiving/copy has to succeed for the database to continue running) or not.

Mogens

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There is a OMF related parameter called db_create_online_log_dest_n.
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from 1 to 5 and it allows for upto 5 multiplexed copies opf each redo log
group member.

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Hi !

I 've a question regarding OMF realted parameter CREATE_DB_ONLINE_LOG_N. Now
y is'nt this parameter mentioned in the list of parameters in the Oracle
Documenttion cd of 9i. Is it obsolete or oracle does not recommend it's use.

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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Jared . Still
Ahem...

OK, I can not resist any longer.

The tools exist:  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596002106

The 'dbup' script logs all connections attempts.  Use sed, perl, or 
whatever
to parse the logfile, or modify to create logs more to your liking.

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Go buy a tool? Here is an idea instead ... 
Write a small Perl (pick your favorite language here) script that looks at 
/etc/oratab followed by a check to see if each of the instances listed in 
/etc/oratab is up on the side where it is checking. It then log in as a 
schema (we call it) called heartbeat, insert a row into a table with 
sysdate. Wait 3 seconds, retrieve the row and checks the time difference. 
If it is more than 5 seconds, you have a potential delay somewhere and 
have it alert appropriate people. (If it is night, page your VP with This 
is your heartbeat calling ... we have a problem ...) 
Life is great with cron ... 
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Re: UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Mogens Nørgaard




Hear-hear. The OakTable Network has a couple of round tables near the bar
area in the Exhibition Hall where we could meet, perhaps?

Mogens

Connor McDonald wrote:

  I'm up for a drink - I think we all deferred to your
local knowledge.  I say choose a pub and anyone thats
want to be there simply rolls up when the free beer
the exhibition hall dries up.  (I'm guessing around
7pm)

Cheers
Connor

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Monday night at the UKOUG. I *don't* remember us
actually arranging a
place/time.. ;) Is there any chance of another show
of hands so that we can
see if we'll need to book a table or not. And has
*anybody* had any thoughts
on a place at all?

See you all soon!

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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-03 Thread Miller, Jay
I had one thought.
The Freelist parameter for this table is only set to 1.  Is it possible that
if it gets tied up with contention for the freelist that it grabs a new
extent?

I see that some of these blocks are being written to, the
num_freelist_blocks is now down to 2095705.  But the new data file has grown
to 600 Meg.

I've opened a TAR to see what Oracle says but I'm not encouraged by the
first question they sent me (which was asking to query dba_free_space).

Jay

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what degree of parallelism is
defined for the table?
What is the next extent size set to?
If the table is paralleled, EACH parallel worker will grab a next extent
sized segment. (Been bit by
this a few times...)
How many indexes and are they in the same tablespace?

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Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

Jay

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Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

--- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rachel,

 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.

 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.

 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you in person some time.
  Have
 you
 talked to Priscilla lately?

 Richard Ji


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 how would coalescing help even if there were a lot of smaller free
 extents? Oracle would do the coalesce automatically, there would be
 no
 difference between manually coalescing or allowing Oracle to do it
 when
 a new extent was needed.


 --- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Coalescing might help if there are many smaller free extents
  that can be coalesced.  But that still doesn't solve Jay's problem.
  Because he doesn't want the table to extent at all since he just
  deleted
  2 million rows so there are plenty of space within the segment
  itself.
  Those free blocks should be used, unless he is doing a direct path
  insert
  which will only use space above the HWM.
 
  Richard Ji
 
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  did u coalesced the tablespaces?
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: sexta-feira, 29 de Novembro de 2002 17:59
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Okay, I can't figure this one out.  Earlier this week I got an
  ORA-1653:
  unable to extend table on a really big table.  However this was
 just
  after I
  had deleted over 2 million rows in the table and we were only
  inserting
  30,000.
 
  After reanalyzing the table I saw the following stats in
 DBA_TABLES:
 
  num_freelist_blocks:  2266966
  avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895
 
  Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over 8Gig available
 for
  inserts.
 
  We tried the insert again and got the same error so I added a
  datafile and
  it went through (using about 40Meg of space in the new datafile).
 
  Why isn't it making use of the existing blocks on the freelist?
 
  Oracle 8.1.7.2
  Solaris 2.6
  PCTFREE = 10
  PCTUSED = 75
  Block Size = 4K
 
 
  

oracle temp files

2002-12-03 Thread Jack van Zanen
Hi 


If I create a temporary tablespace using temp files, how is it possible to
check the space usage of that tablespace.

They do not show up in dba_free_space nor dba_data_files. DBA_TEMP_FILES
gives me user_bytes and blocks. is this the opposite of the info in
dba_free_space??

TIA
Jack




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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Tool? I have a tool. Want to buy? ;) 

It's a simple script that connects (actually attempts to connect with a fake id/pw) to 
the target DB (on Windows, HP-Alpha/VMS, UNIX) over Oracle Net. Scans for the ORA- 
errors and we know if the DB is accessible or not, as well as if Listener is 
responding. No need for any 'special' ids to run 'select stuff from dual', which in 
itself can be expensive (depending on the DB version). 

I think I had posted this script a few times before. 
Here it is again. Customize it to suit you requirements to send page/emails/update 
table etc...: 
(btw -- Steve Adams has an elaborate version that checks for a few more things. Check 
his web site)

#!/usr/bin/ksh
#
# dbcheck : Script to check if database is up and accessible
#
# Author : Kirti Deshpande
#---
 
echo Enter Name of the Database SID to check if it is accessible
read DB

sqlplus -s  EOF  /tmp/$$.1
whenever sqlerror exit
aaa/aaa@$DB
exit;
EOF
egrep 'ORA-121|ORA-01034' /tmp/$$.1  /dev/null
if [[ $? = 0 ]]
then
   echo - '$DB' is _NOT_ Accessible\n 
else
   grep 'ORA-01017' /tmp/$$.1  /dev/null
   if [[ $? = 0 ]]
   then
 echo - '$DB' is UP and Accessible\n 
   else
 echo - '$DB' is _NOT_ Accessible\n 
   fi
fi
rm /tmp/$$.1

# --- End of File

- Kirti




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Yup, got that covered :)

If I may add another point. When dealing with SLA's, you not only have to
show that the database has been servicing users that are connected
(showing database uptime), but also that users can also *connect* to the
database as well (the listener is servicing requests).

If you were to go about this with a trigger/procedure that inserts in to a
table, then this doesn't show that the database was available to
everybody.

Typically what we do with monitoring tools is a connect on ping, so when
we are checking availability of a database we do a full connect, then
select 'PING' from dual;. If there are any errors along the way we search
for the error code, and deal with the appropriate alerts (TNS = Listener
problem, ORA = Database problem).

Of course, the problem with doing it this way, is that you are going to have
to write platform dependant scripts (batches for NT, shell type scripts for
Unix), and not have a one for all with a database based solution.

Go buy a tool. Let it write to a table/file, alert you AND make the coffee
for when you get there! ;)

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Sent: 03 December 2002 02:14
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Perhaps there is a poor mans way of doing this.  The startup trigger
could fire a procedure that inserts a row into a table and then sleeps for
1 minute before doing the same again.  Effectively it would create a ping
in the table, which you could then analyze / graph to display uptimes.

The next logical step would be to increase the intelligence of the
procedure.  The table storing the statistic could consist of two columns -
uptime and downtime.  When the startup trigger fires it creates a new row
in the table with both uptime and downtime set to sysdate.  It then sleeps
for a minute before updating downtime for the most recent record (either
remember a primary key or search for max(uptime)).  This would be much
easier to understand when the database was stopped / started.

Of course depending on your accuracy requirement, granularity could be
changed to every 5 minutes, 10 minutes, whatever.

Hopefully that gives some ideas though.  Of course the 3rd party monitors
that Jared mentions are worth considering if the database is considered
critical.  In that case the number one requirement is probably the ability
to page / SMS / email when it sees the database is down.

Regards,
 Mark.




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Ethan,

That records the startup times, but does not record the time
that the database was unavailable.

What's needed is a 3rd party monitor that is not dependent
on the database being up to record metrics.

Jared





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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Fink, Dan
To be fair, there is some disagreement about adding an index on DUAL. I have
not duplicated the scenario that Cary presents and I have been too
distracted (writing a paper/presentation for Rachel) to get back to my
testing. So take with a small grain of salt.

Dan

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and that select 'PING' from dual is very costly. I believe Gaja, Cary,
Anjo, and a few others (who were nice enough to include me on the
thread)  determined that before 9i Oracle takes about 5 LIOs to do a
select anything from dual. I think it went down to either 3 or 4 in
9i but that's still VERY costly.

Dan Fink has that discussion summarized on his site:

http://www.optimaldba.com/internals/oraint_dual.html


Rachel
--- Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yup, got that covered :)
 
 If I may add another point. When dealing with SLA's, you not only
 have to
 show that the database has been servicing users that are connected
 (showing database uptime), but also that users can also *connect* to
 the
 database as well (the listener is servicing requests).
 
 If you were to go about this with a trigger/procedure that inserts in
 to a
 table, then this doesn't show that the database was available to
 everybody.
 
 Typically what we do with monitoring tools is a connect on ping, so
 when
 we are checking availability of a database we do a full connect, then
 select 'PING' from dual;. If there are any errors along the way we
 search
 for the error code, and deal with the appropriate alerts (TNS =
 Listener
 problem, ORA = Database problem).
 
 Of course, the problem with doing it this way, is that you are going
 to have
 to write platform dependant scripts (batches for NT, shell type
 scripts for
 Unix), and not have a one for all with a database based solution.
 
 Go buy a tool. Let it write to a table/file, alert you AND make the
 coffee
 for when you get there! ;)
 
 Mark
 
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 -Original Message-
 Richard
 Sent: 03 December 2002 02:14
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Perhaps there is a poor mans way of doing this.  The startup
 trigger
 could fire a procedure that inserts a row into a table and then
 sleeps for
 1 minute before doing the same again.  Effectively it would create a
 ping
 in the table, which you could then analyze / graph to display
 uptimes.
 
 The next logical step would be to increase the intelligence of the
 procedure.  The table storing the statistic could consist of two
 columns -
 uptime and downtime.  When the startup trigger fires it creates a new
 row
 in the table with both uptime and downtime set to sysdate.  It then
 sleeps
 for a minute before updating downtime for the most recent record
 (either
 remember a primary key or search for max(uptime)).  This would be
 much
 easier to understand when the database was stopped / started.
 
 Of course depending on your accuracy requirement, granularity could
 be
 changed to every 5 minutes, 10 minutes, whatever.
 
 Hopefully that gives some ideas though.  Of course the 3rd party
 monitors
 that Jared mentions are worth considering if the database is
 considered
 critical.  In that case the number one requirement is probably the
 ability
 to page / SMS / email when it sees the database is down.
 
 Regards,
  Mark.
 
 
 
 
 Jared.Still@ra
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 Ethan,
 
 That records the startup times, but does not record the time
 that the database was unavailable.
 
 What's needed is a 3rd party monitor that is not dependent
 on the database being up to record metrics.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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 Just a thought here for a script I think would be handy but I haven't
 had
 time to write.
 
 It is would be a simple procedure you could call to get the service
 level
 for a particular database.  I suppose you would have to have some
 sort of
 way of defining normal outage windows.  Basically a startup trigger
 would
 log the times in a table.  You should also check the startup 

RE: UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Robson, Peter


 
 
 a table presumes there will be only a few of you there
 
 by my count, which is admittedly low, you folk are already at 8


You haven't seen the SIZE of these tables - they are bl massive! We take
our communal beering seriously over here!


peter



 
 
 --- Robson, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Count me in on this, Mark -
  
  As for a 'table' - presupposes a venue in which to find said article
  of
  furniture...(!) no idea on that, but there are places out 
 the back of
  the
  ICC as I recall which might be suitable.
  
  peter
  edinburgh
  
  
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   Hi All,
   
   I remember that a number of people were all for getting 
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   Monday night at the UKOUG. I *don't* remember us actually 
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Re:

2002-12-03 Thread Jared . Still
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And how may we help you?

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Help with Java

2002-12-03 Thread John Weatherman
All,

I am beginning the journey into JAVA and have hit an odd behavior
(well, probably not, but I can't see any reason for it).  I am 
building a list of tablespaces and the datafiles that belong to them.
The open to the database is working fine.  When I use:

 ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
SELECT tablespace_name  +
FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
  );

  while (myTablespaces.next()) {
// retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
// getString() method
ct = ct + 1;
String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
  }
  myTablespace.close();

I am generating a list of tablespaces and the output is as expected.
When I add a second result set, the first datafile of the first tablespace
returns and then the program completes: 

 ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
SELECT tablespace_name  +
FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
  );
  while (myTablespaces.next()) {
// retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
// getString() method
ct = ct + 1;
String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
 
ResultSet myDataFiles = myStatement.executeQuery(
  SELECT file_name  +
  FROM   dba_data_files  +
  WHERE  tablespace_name = ' + tablespace + '
);
  
while (myDataFiles.next()) {
  String filename = myDataFiles.getString(1);
  System.out.println(   + filename);
}
myDataFiles.close();
  }
  myTablespaces.close();


Anybody with some Java experience have any insite?

As always, TIA,

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RE: UKOUG Meet.

2002-12-03 Thread Fink, Dan
I'll be there, with a special gift and greetings from the DBA Goddess...

Dan Fink

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Hi All,

I remember that a number of people were all for getting together on the
Monday night at the UKOUG. I *don't* remember us actually arranging a
place/time.. ;) Is there any chance of another show of hands so that we can
see if we'll need to book a table or not. And has *anybody* had any thoughts
on a place at all?

See you all soon!

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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Ron Thomas

Yes, but can I get it signed...

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Ahem...

OK, I can not resist any longer.

The tools exist:  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596002106

The 'dbup' script logs all connections attempts.  Use sed, perl, or
whatever
to parse the logfile, or modify to create logs more to your liking.

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Go buy a tool? Here is an idea instead ...
Write a small Perl (pick your favorite language here) script that looks at
/etc/oratab followed by a check to see if each of the instances listed in
/etc/oratab is up on the side where it is checking. It then log in as a
schema (we call it) called heartbeat, insert a row into a table with
sysdate. Wait 3 seconds, retrieve the row and checks the time difference.
If it is more than 5 seconds, you have a potential delay somewhere and
have it alert appropriate people. (If it is night, page your VP with This
is your heartbeat calling ... we have a problem ...)
Life is great with cron ...
HTH
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VXFS Parameter ?

2002-12-03 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA

As part of a Batch Processing Job Benchmark , the Veritas parameter  
vxdmp:dmp_patchswitch_blks_shift =15 set by the Sysadmin gave Good Performance 
/ Elapsed Time benefits .

Has any used this parameter ? Any recommendations ? Any cautions about the Same ?

Anyplace i can get some info on this parameter ?  Links , Docs ?

Checked the Veritas site too but of no avail .

Config :-
Vertias File Systems 
Solaris 8
Oracle 8.1.7
Application Hybrid
Machine SunFire 15K

Thanks


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RE:

2002-12-03 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
and besides, it gives some of us a source of amusement - waiting for the
first Are you and idiot? response.


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I don't manage the mail list software, Bruce Bergman does.

Though these are a minor annoyance, I personally wouldn't
bother writing code/rules to eliminate these. 

Just hit DELETE

Jared






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I don't know whether people do it on purpose or they are still unaware 
after so many similar postings of the same nature and replies of 'ARE YOU 
AN IDIOT', but it does result in a plethora of responses which create 
unnecessary hassles.
 
Jared, why not parse messages for these commands and send the reply back 
to the poster similar to what is done with the vacation Auto-reply 
messages?
 
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Best practice for backing out of Application Patches

2002-12-03 Thread Scott Stefick


Sorry, I forgot a Subject title!

Gurus,

I was just given a project to maintain a Computerized Maintenance 
Management System.  When I asked the companies support staff how to roll 
back patches in the backend Oracle Database (Ver. 8174), they said that 
there was no way to do this.  I'm guessing I could use logminer just 
incase a patch doesn't work.  Would this be a good solution, or are there 
other (better) ways of safeguarding myself when it comes to 
patching?  Obviously, I will be applying the patches to a test instance 
first, but I don't want to have to go back to restore from a backup if the 
patch causes unexpected issues.

TIA!

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Re: oracle temp files

2002-12-03 Thread Jared . Still
v$sort_usage perhaps?

not sure what you're trying to determine.

'TEMPORARY' temp tablespaces provide space for sorting, and
the kernel ( forget which process at the moment ) tends to hang on
to them once allocated, and supply them to sessions as needed.

This avoids contention on the ST enqueue. 

This causes TEMP to appear to be all used up after a while.

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Hi 


If I create a temporary tablespace using temp files, how is it possible to
check the space usage of that tablespace.

They do not show up in dba_free_space nor dba_data_files. DBA_TEMP_FILES
gives me user_bytes and blocks. is this the opposite of the info in
dba_free_space??

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RE: hopefully this is not too old news

2002-12-03 Thread Jesse, Rich
And, if I'm not mistaken, 8.1.7's ECS date got pushed out as well, to
12/31/2003 (MetaLink doc ID 148054.1).  I seem to remember being in a
feverish panic because 95% of my databases would be out of ECS this year.

Of course, those brain cells may have been long gone now...  :)

Rich


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but i just logged in metalstink after a few weeks and noticed:

Oracle announces the extension of Error Correction and Extended Maintenance
Support for Oracle Database 9i Release 1 (9.0.1). 
SupportOriginal DateExtended Date
Error Correction Support (ECS)June 30, 2003December 31, 2003
Extended Assistance Support (EAS)June 30, 2006December 31, 2006


an extension till end of 2003 for ECS on 9ir1.

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RE: Apps 11i on Red Hat 8.0

2002-12-03 Thread Hately, Mike (NESL-IT)
Dale,
I installed 11.5.5 on Suse 7.0 and it went absolutely fine. I went with that
O/S because I'd heard it was the most trouble free combination. 
I believe that the 11.5.7 release is 11.5.5 plus extra CDs containg the
11.5.6 and 11.5.7 maintenance packs.
I ran it as a single tier install and everything went just like it says on
the box. This was in 500MB RAM / 800MB swap and (roughly) 45 GB of disk.

A colleague installed it on RedHat 7.1 and it's working. I'm not sure how
much tweaking it required to get there.

Regards,
Mike Hately


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Anyone care to share any experiences installing Apps 11i release 7 on RH
8.0? I'm about to give it a go in the next couple of days - and would
appreciate hearing about your experiences.

I note that SUSE 7.1 seems to be the only officially certified distro.
H.

Oracle Trivia Question: If you order the Oracle Apps 11i Release 7 suite
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Answer: 54 (yes thats right, fifty four CD's) - the mind boggles. No wonder
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RE: install of 64 and 32 bit

2002-12-03 Thread Thomas Jeff
Title: RE: install of 64 and 32 bit





According to Metalink, 8.1.7 64-bit is not certified for AIX 5.1.



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I am going to install 64 bit Oracle 8.1.7 on AIX 5L (5.1). There is already
32 bit Oracle on the box. Any suggestions or advice I would appreciate.


thanks,


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RE: Help with Java

2002-12-03 Thread STEVE OLLIG
John - your problem is that you are reusing the Statement named myStatement
within your while (myTablespaces.next()) loop.  just declare and use a
second Statement and i suspect all will be well once again.

from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/index.html :

java.sql 
Interface Statement
All Known Subinterfaces: 
CallableStatement, PreparedStatement 

public interface Statement

The object used for executing a static SQL statement and obtaining the
results produced by it. 

Only one ResultSet object per Statement object can be open at any point in
time. Therefore, if the reading of one ResultSet object is interleaved with
the reading of another, each must have been generated by different Statement
objects. All statement execute methods implicitly close a statment's current
ResultSet object if an open one exists. 


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All,

I am beginning the journey into JAVA and have hit an odd behavior
(well, probably not, but I can't see any reason for it).  I am 
building a list of tablespaces and the datafiles that belong to them.
The open to the database is working fine.  When I use:

 ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
SELECT tablespace_name  +
FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
  );

  while (myTablespaces.next()) {
// retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
// getString() method
ct = ct + 1;
String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
  }
  myTablespace.close();

I am generating a list of tablespaces and the output is as expected.
When I add a second result set, the first datafile of the first tablespace
returns and then the program completes: 

 ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
SELECT tablespace_name  +
FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
  );
  while (myTablespaces.next()) {
// retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
// getString() method
ct = ct + 1;
String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
 
ResultSet myDataFiles = myStatement.executeQuery(
  SELECT file_name  +
  FROM   dba_data_files  +
  WHERE  tablespace_name = ' + tablespace + '
);
  
while (myDataFiles.next()) {
  String filename = myDataFiles.getString(1);
  System.out.println(   + filename);
}
myDataFiles.close();
  }
  myTablespaces.close();


Anybody with some Java experience have any insite?

As always, TIA,

John P Weatherman
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ORA-2083 DATABASE name has illegal character '-'

2002-12-03 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi,

Oracle 8.1.6.0.0 NT 4.0

I have the following logon trigger.  It works fine as long I insert into
local table. If I try to insert into a table across a database link the
record get inserted but upon exiting the app whether it is
sqlplus,forms,etc I get ora-2083.  I think it is probably a bug since I
have exact same environment and it works Ok. It fails
on 3 other identical environments.  Anyone heard of any possible bugs using
database link in logon trigger?  I search metalink and google but
no such reported error.


DROP PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink;
CREATE PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink CONNECT TO utilities
IDENTIFIED BY 123x456x USING 'a123456';

GRANT SELECT ON v_$session TO PUBLIC;
GRANT SELECT ON v_$instance TO PUBLIC;
DROP TRIGGER login_capture;
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER login_capture AFTER LOGON ON DATABASE
DECLARE
  CURSOR temp_rec IS
SELECT user AS user_name,
   NVL(UPPER(SUBSTR(osuser,1,30)),'SERVER') AS os_user_name,
   RTRIM(NVL(SUBSTR(machine,instr(machine,'\') +1,12),'SERVER'),CHR(0))
AS machine_name,
   sid AS session_id,
   serial# AS serial_no,
   SYSDATE AS logon_time,
   SYS_CONTEXT('userenv','ip_address') AS ip_address,
   NVL(SUBSTR(program,1,64),'INTERNAL') AS program_name,
   i.instance_name AS instance_name,
   i.host_name AS host_name,
   i.version AS version
FROM v$session s,v$instance i
WHERE s.username = user
AND   s.logon_time = (SELECT MAX(x.logon_time)
  FROM v$session x
  WHERE x.username = user);
BEGIN
FOR rec IN temp_rec LOOP
INSERT INTO login_history@utilities_itport02_dblink
 (user_name,
  os_user_name,
  machine_name,
  session_id,
  serial_no,
  logon_time,
  ip_address,
  program_name,
  instance_name,
  host_name,
  version)
VALUES (rec.user_name,
  rec.os_user_name,
  rec.machine_name,
  rec.session_id,
  rec.serial_no,
  rec.logon_time,
  rec.ip_address,
  rec.program_name,
  rec.instance_name,
  rec.host_name,
  rec.version);
END LOOP;
EXCEPTION
 WHEN OTHERS THEN
   NULL;
END;
/
ALTER TRIGGER login_capture ENABLE;


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RE: OMF question

2002-12-03 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
It is documented in Oracle9i Database Reference Release 1 (9.0.1)  Part Number 
A90190-02. 
Check it out at http://tahiti.oracle.com 

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John ,
I meant the same param.apologies ,i misplaced db and create. Is this
parameter obsolete (with 9i) coz its not mentioned in the Documentation
(9i) list of initialization parameters. Only db_create_file_dest is
present in the doc.

Thanx !

best regards
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Re: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread Connor McDonald
Exactly. 

We had a system that used to drag emails (from qmail
so each mail was a file) into clobs in the database. 
After a year or so we had about 15 million emails in
the database - no problems at all.  

Then one day the some idiot (aka me) put a new version
of the program in which successfully loaded the clob
but (to cut a long story short) started replicating
the email files left, right and centre...It took
literally days to clean up millions of (zero byte
size) files...after which point that file system
needed to be rebuilt anyway, the directory structure
was in such a mess

Cheers
Connor

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Arup,
 
 What Connor may have been referring to is the
 inefficiency
 of managing 20 million files in a filesystem.
 
 That's a lot of inodes ( assuming unix ).  It's a
 bit much
 for a filesystem to deal with.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Connor,
 
 I seem to think otherwise. Storing 100 GB of image
 is not necessarily a
 pretty proposition either when you consider hot
 backups and archived log
 generation, etc. I presume you are concerned about
 the management of the
 image files considering the sheer volume of it. But
 that's precisely what
 BFILE is expected to help with. The images are in a
 file ssytem and the
 pointers are in the database and that's managed
 pretty well.
 
 However I do concede tht this might pose a problem
 on two fronts -
 (1) Security - beign on filesystem anyone can
 potentially see these. 
 However
 this is not necesarily a concern at all sites. Good
 OS security can 
 prevent
 this.
 (2) Backup - the ssy admin has to explicitly backup
 all these files. This,
 again, may not be that bad when you store your files
 on a single 
 filesystem
 and a backup software can be easily programmed to
 check only the changed
 files,  based on timestamp.
 
 Just my two cents.
 
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  Managing 20mil of anything (images/text/etc) in a
 file
  system isn't a nice proposition.  Go with the
 database
 
  hth
  connor
 
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   Guys , i posted this already and this time my
   question is a bit
   different .
  
   I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each
 either
   in DB ( on
   win2k) or linux o/s file system.
  
   the images are to be displayed over mobile
 phones.so
   the time to
   retrieve the images should be minimum.
  
 for this to be achieved , i am confused ,
 whether
   the images
 should be stored in o/s file system or in the
 DB ?
  
 --selecting a file from linux o/s file system
   ---
  or
 --querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k)
   ---
  
 which of the above will be faster ?
  
   all these will be done with java . this being
   condition , i
   would
 like to know ur suggestion guys.
  
 my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.
  
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Extent sizes when using LMT with autoallocate clause

2002-12-03 Thread Daiminger, Helmut
Title: Extent sizes when using LMT with autoallocate clause





Hi!


I was wondering what the allocated extent sizes for locally managed tablespaces with the autoallocate clause are? The first extents are 64k in size. How many 64k chunks are allocated? What are the next sizes?

CREATE TABLESPACE local_auto 
DATAFILE '/u02/oradata/local_auto01.dbf'
SIZE 1M reuse
EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL AUTOALLOCATE; 


This is 9.2.0.2 on Solaris.


Thanks,
Helmut





Re: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Stephane Faroult
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 Ethan,
 
 That records the startup times, but does not record the time
 that the database was unavailable.
 
 What's needed is a 3rd party monitor that is not dependent
 on the database being up to record metrics.
 
 Jared
 

Jared,

  I am far from having given much thought to this interesting idea but
you can possibly work around this by using utl_file to check
background_dump_dest. If it's not recorded in the alert.log, you
probably have a .trc file hanging around. This optimistically assumes of
course that you do not let you alert.log file grow out of control,
because the idea of reading with UTL_FILE a 300M+ text file is not
properly exciting. In fact the solution might be some external procedure
to do in C directory operations, stat() calls and the like.
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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure





you still have to *buy* the tool right?


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Ahem...


OK, I can not resist any longer.


The tools exist: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596002106


The 'dbup' script logs all connections attempts. Use sed, perl, or 
whatever
to parse the logfile, or modify to create logs more to your liking.


Jared







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Go buy a tool? Here is an idea instead ... 
Write a small Perl (pick your favorite language here) script that looks at 
/etc/oratab followed by a check to see if each of the instances listed in 
/etc/oratab is up on the side where it is checking. It then log in as a 
schema (we call it) called heartbeat, insert a row into a table with 
sysdate. Wait 3 seconds, retrieve the row and checks the time difference. 
If it is more than 5 seconds, you have a potential delay somewhere and 
have it alert appropriate people. (If it is night, page your VP with This 
is your heartbeat calling ... we have a problem ...) 
Life is great with cron ... 
HTH 
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Re: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread JApplewhite

FWIW ... in my last job we stored 13 million CLOB documents (max size of
5KB, stored out-of-line in their own CLOB segments) in an 8.1.7.3 DB under
Win2k (2 CPU HP NetServer with 4GB RAM and twenty-three 36GB drives;
JBOD).  The CLOB documents were all interMedia Text indexed.

Contains queries returned results in a second or less, unless the query
was not very specific and hit thousands of documents.  Java processes
loaded up to 250,000 new documents every night and the interMedia index was
refreshed shortly thereafter - took up to a couple of hours.  The front-end
was Cold Fusion, so that's not applicable to your situation.

This ~200GB database had a Standby DB on a sister machine.  Everything
worked very well.  RMan level 0 backups took a couple of hours.

I vote for out-of-line BLOBs in their own tablespace(s) on as many spindles
as you can afford.

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You should/must do a benchmark.
If not, how can you justify your decision ?
If your management do not ask for a benchmack then you
have bad management (and that's no good for you
either...)

Anyway, in a previous life, we did a benchmarck with
files of similar size and it was faster on the OS.
The environment was Oracle 816/Sun with Vignette Story
Server.

HTH

 --- oraora  oraora [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
:  Guys , i posted this already and this time my
 question is a bit
 different .

 I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either
 in DB ( on
 win2k) or linux o/s file system.

 the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so
 the time to
 retrieve the images should be minimum.

   for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether
 the images
   should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?

   --selecting a file from linux o/s file system
 ---
or
   --querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k)
 ---

   which of the above will be faster ?

 all these will be done with java . this being
 condition , i
 would
   like to know ur suggestion guys.

   my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.

 TIA
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RE: oracle precompiler in O 9.2

2002-12-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra



actually we also have /usr/opt/oracle/92 which is linked to 
/usr/opt/oracle/current

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  RE: oracle precompiler in O 9.2The ORACLE_HOME is 
  "/usr/opt/oracle/current" ?I have read of "/usr/opt" being used, [although 
  I generally use"/u0x/app" or "/oracle/app" or "/orasys/app" depending on 
  the "standard'at the site] but not "current" -- I generally still 
  use [the "OFA" 
  standard"]./product/Version.Release.MaintenanceReleaseHemantAt 
  06:32 AM 03-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
  SQL exit 
Disconnected from Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 
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Real Application Clusters, OLAP and Oracle Data Mining options 
JServer Release 9.2.0.2.0 - Production oraclei@elara-ABC1 oraclei@elara-ABC1 
which proc /usr/opt/oracle/current/bin/proc 
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Re: which bind variable value causes ora-1722

2002-12-03 Thread tim
Mike,

It is the value in the :gl_id string, which is 6.55802. 
The column GL_ID is defined as an integer of 38 digits (i.e.
NUMBER(38) instead of NUMBER), so there is no room for
digits to the right of the decimal...

Hope this helps...

-Tim

 Hi, all,
 
 My developer continually got ora-1722 when he was
 installing a new billing system. I used 10046 event to get
 trace file, but i could not figure out which bind variable
 value causes the error, here is the part of trace: 
 PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=229 dep=0 uid=62 oct=2 lid=62
 tim=807252370 hv=4084410285 ad='9f31e880'
 insert into fold_bal_impacts_t ( element_id,
 fixed_operand, flags, free_quantity, gl_id,
 scaled_operand, rec_id, obj_id0 ) values ( :element_id,
 :fixed_operand, :flags, :free_quantity, :gl_id,
 :scaled_operand, :rec_id, :obj_id0 ) END OF STMT
 PARSE
 #1:c=0,e=1,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=0,tim=80725237
 0 BINDS #1:
  bind 0: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=224 offset=0
bfp=018bacd0 bln=22 avl=03 flg=05
value=250
  bind 1: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=24
bfp=018bace8 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 2: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=56
bfp=018bad08 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 3: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=80
bfp=018bad20 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 4: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=112
bfp=018bad40 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 5: dty=1 mxl=32(07) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=136
bfp=018bad58 bln=32 avl=07 flg=01
value=6.55802
  bind 6: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=168
bfp=018bad78 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 7: dty=1 mxl=32(05) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=192
bfp=018bad90 bln=32 avl=05 flg=01
value=10382
 EXEC
 #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=2,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=3,tim=80725237
 0 ERROR #1:err=1722 tim=807252370
 
 
 And here is the table:
 
 SQLdesc fold_bal_impacts_t
  NameNull?Type
  --- 
 
  OBJ_ID0  NUMBER(38)
  REC_ID   NUMBER(38)
  ELEMENT_ID   NUMBER(38)
  FIXED_OPERANDNUMBER
  FLAGSNUMBER(38)
  FREE_QUANTITYNUMBER
  GL_IDNUMBER(38)
  SCALED_OPERAND   NUMBER
 
 And there is no any constraints on this table.
 
 Please help, thanks.
 
 Mike
 
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RE: ORA-2083 DATABASE name has illegal character '-'

2002-12-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rick - Have you tested the link itself?

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Hi,

Oracle 8.1.6.0.0 NT 4.0

I have the following logon trigger.  It works fine as long I insert into
local table. If I try to insert into a table across a database link the
record get inserted but upon exiting the app whether it is
sqlplus,forms,etc I get ora-2083.  I think it is probably a bug since I
have exact same environment and it works Ok. It fails
on 3 other identical environments.  Anyone heard of any possible bugs using
database link in logon trigger?  I search metalink and google but
no such reported error.


DROP PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink;
CREATE PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink CONNECT TO utilities
IDENTIFIED BY 123x456x USING 'a123456';

GRANT SELECT ON v_$session TO PUBLIC;
GRANT SELECT ON v_$instance TO PUBLIC;
DROP TRIGGER login_capture;
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER login_capture AFTER LOGON ON DATABASE
DECLARE
  CURSOR temp_rec IS
SELECT user AS user_name,
   NVL(UPPER(SUBSTR(osuser,1,30)),'SERVER') AS os_user_name,
   RTRIM(NVL(SUBSTR(machine,instr(machine,'\') +1,12),'SERVER'),CHR(0))
AS machine_name,
   sid AS session_id,
   serial# AS serial_no,
   SYSDATE AS logon_time,
   SYS_CONTEXT('userenv','ip_address') AS ip_address,
   NVL(SUBSTR(program,1,64),'INTERNAL') AS program_name,
   i.instance_name AS instance_name,
   i.host_name AS host_name,
   i.version AS version
FROM v$session s,v$instance i
WHERE s.username = user
AND   s.logon_time = (SELECT MAX(x.logon_time)
  FROM v$session x
  WHERE x.username = user);
BEGIN
FOR rec IN temp_rec LOOP
INSERT INTO login_history@utilities_itport02_dblink
 (user_name,
  os_user_name,
  machine_name,
  session_id,
  serial_no,
  logon_time,
  ip_address,
  program_name,
  instance_name,
  host_name,
  version)
VALUES (rec.user_name,
  rec.os_user_name,
  rec.machine_name,
  rec.session_id,
  rec.serial_no,
  rec.logon_time,
  rec.ip_address,
  rec.program_name,
  rec.instance_name,
  rec.host_name,
  rec.version);
END LOOP;
EXCEPTION
 WHEN OTHERS THEN
   NULL;
END;
/
ALTER TRIGGER login_capture ENABLE;


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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Mark - Well, speaking for myself, I appreciate your openness in pointing out
the major issues one would have to deal with if they were going to write
their own. 



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Dang, I just new that would cause a stir!
 
;P

Mark Running away now Leith

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Go buy a tool? Here is an idea instead ... 

Write a small Perl (pick your favorite language here) script that looks at
/etc/oratab followed by a check to see if each of the instances listed in
/etc/oratab is up on the side where it is checking. It then log in as a
schema (we call it) called heartbeat, insert a row into a table with
sysdate. Wait 3 seconds, retrieve the row and checks the time difference. If
it is more than 5 seconds, you have a potential delay somewhere and have it
alert appropriate people. (If it is night, page your VP with This is your
heartbeat calling ... we have a problem ...) 

Life is great with cron ... 
HTH 
Raj 
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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-03 Thread Ron Thomas

Hum.

My last thought would are there triggers or snapshots defined on the table?

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Ron,

Good idea, but DEGREE=1

There are two indexes, but they are in a different tablespace (which has
plenty of free space available and did not give an error).

Next extent size is 25M but, as mentioned, it shouldn't have needed a new
extent.

I'm still at a loss...

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what degree of parallelism is
defined for the table?
What is the next extent size set to?
If the table is paralleled, EACH parallel worker will grab a next extent
sized segment. (Been bit by
this a few times...)
How many indexes and are they in the same tablespace?

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Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

Jay

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Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

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 Rachel,

 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.

 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.

 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you in 

Re: Extent sizes when using LMT with autoallocate clause

2002-12-03 Thread Connor McDonald
   case
 when initial_extent  1m then
   case when extents  16 then next = 64k,
when extents  80 then next = 1m,
when extents  200 then next = 8m,
else next = 64m
 when initial_extent = 1m then
   case when extents  64 then next = 1m,
when extents  184 then next = 8m,
else next = 64m )

is a reasonable approximation of extent behaviour

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 I was wondering what the allocated extent sizes for
 locally managed
 tablespaces with the autoallocate clause are? The
 first extents are 64k in
 size. How many 64k chunks are allocated? What are
 the next sizes?
 
 CREATE TABLESPACE local_auto 
 DATAFILE'/u02/oradata/local_auto01.dbf'
 SIZE 1M reuse
 EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL AUTOALLOCATE;  
 
 This is 9.2.0.2 on Solaris.
 
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RE: Help with Java

2002-12-03 Thread John Weatherman
Steve,

This was it exactly.  Thanks!

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John - your problem is that you are reusing the Statement named myStatement
within your while (myTablespaces.next()) loop.  just declare and use a
second Statement and i suspect all will be well once again.

from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/index.html :

java.sql 
Interface Statement
All Known Subinterfaces: 
CallableStatement, PreparedStatement 

public interface Statement

The object used for executing a static SQL statement and obtaining the
results produced by it. 

Only one ResultSet object per Statement object can be open at any point in
time. Therefore, if the reading of one ResultSet object is interleaved with
the reading of another, each must have been generated by different Statement
objects. All statement execute methods implicitly close a statment's current
ResultSet object if an open one exists. 


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All,

I am beginning the journey into JAVA and have hit an odd behavior
(well, probably not, but I can't see any reason for it).  I am 
building a list of tablespaces and the datafiles that belong to them.
The open to the database is working fine.  When I use:

 ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
SELECT tablespace_name  +
FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
  );

  while (myTablespaces.next()) {
// retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
// getString() method
ct = ct + 1;
String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
  }
  myTablespace.close();

I am generating a list of tablespaces and the output is as expected.
When I add a second result set, the first datafile of the first tablespace
returns and then the program completes: 

 ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
SELECT tablespace_name  +
FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
  );
  while (myTablespaces.next()) {
// retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
// getString() method
ct = ct + 1;
String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
 
ResultSet myDataFiles = myStatement.executeQuery(
  SELECT file_name  +
  FROM   dba_data_files  +
  WHERE  tablespace_name = ' + tablespace + '
);
  
while (myDataFiles.next()) {
  String filename = myDataFiles.getString(1);
  System.out.println(   + filename);
}
myDataFiles.close();
  }
  myTablespaces.close();


Anybody with some Java experience have any insite?

As always, TIA,

John P Weatherman
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RE: Best practice for backing out of Application Patches

2002-12-03 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Scott,

Of course, the answer is It depends.

It all depends on the kind of software patches that are being applied.

Are you talking about adding a column to a table that allows nulls?  There
might not be a need to back this patch out - the column might be able to
stay depending on how it is used during an insert or select statment.  If
the application does not use the column, then removing it from the table
might need to be done.  On the other hand, if you are using version 8.1.7,
you can always drop the column from the table.

If your patches are just updates to schema views, you can always simply
e-apply the prior version of the views to back the updates out of the
database.

see, it all depends on the kind of schema update that was performed.  and it
can get very complicated when you are talking about foreign keys - literally
hundreds of tables could be involved - and you probably do not want to be
trying to figure out what got touched by an update.

probably the best answer is - to back all database changes out of a schema,
perform a database point-in-time restore back to before you applied the
patches.  if I had your job, and this was a purchased application, this is
what I would do.

hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Sorry, I forgot a Subject title!

Gurus,

I was just given a project to maintain a Computerized Maintenance 
Management System.  When I asked the companies support staff how to roll 
back patches in the backend Oracle Database (Ver. 8174), they said that 
there was no way to do this.  I'm guessing I could use logminer just 
incase a patch doesn't work.  Would this be a good solution, or are there 
other (better) ways of safeguarding myself when it comes to 
patching?  Obviously, I will be applying the patches to a test instance 
first, but I don't want to have to go back to restore from a backup if the 
patch causes unexpected issues.

TIA!

-Scott Stefick


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2002-12-03 Thread Scott Stefick
Gurus,

I was just given a project to maintain a Computerized Maintenance 
Management System.  When I asked the companies support staff how to roll 
back patches in the backend Oracle Database (Ver. 8174), they said that 
there was no way to do this.  I'm guessing I could use logminer just incase 
a patch doesn't work.  Would this be a good solution, or are there other 
(better) ways of safeguarding myself when it comes to patching?  Obviously, 
I will be applying the patches to a test instance first, but I don't want 
to have to go back to restore from a backup if the patch causes unexpected 
issues.

TIA!


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Re: Help with Java

2002-12-03 Thread Alex
comment out
myDataFiles.close();

and see what happens.

On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, John Weatherman wrote:

 All,

 I am beginning the journey into JAVA and have hit an odd behavior
 (well, probably not, but I can't see any reason for it).  I am
 building a list of tablespaces and the datafiles that belong to them.
 The open to the database is working fine.  When I use:

  ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
 SELECT tablespace_name  +
 FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
 WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
   );

   while (myTablespaces.next()) {
 // retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
 // getString() method
 ct = ct + 1;
 String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
 System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
   }
   myTablespace.close();

 I am generating a list of tablespaces and the output is as expected.
 When I add a second result set, the first datafile of the first tablespace
 returns and then the program completes:

  ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
 SELECT tablespace_name  +
 FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
 WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
   );
   while (myTablespaces.next()) {
 // retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
 // getString() method
 ct = ct + 1;
 String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
 System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);

 ResultSet myDataFiles = myStatement.executeQuery(
   SELECT file_name  +
   FROM   dba_data_files  +
   WHERE  tablespace_name = ' + tablespace + '
 );

 while (myDataFiles.next()) {
   String filename = myDataFiles.getString(1);
   System.out.println(   + filename);
 }
 myDataFiles.close();
   }
   myTablespaces.close();


 Anybody with some Java experience have any insite?

 As always, TIA,

 John P Weatherman
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Re: which bind variable value causes ora-1722

2002-12-03 Thread Rick_Cale

It looks like that is bind value 4(gl_id) = 0.
How did you determine it is 6.55802?
I certainly do not how to read this trace but looks like it is define
correctly

:element_id,   bind 0
:fixed_operand,bind 1
:flags,bind 2
:free_quantity,bind 3
:gl_id,bind 4  value 0
:scaled_operand,   bind 5  value 6.55802
:rec_id,
:obj_id0

Rick



   
 
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Mike,

It is the value in the :gl_id string, which is 6.55802.
The column GL_ID is defined as an integer of 38 digits (i.e.
NUMBER(38) instead of NUMBER), so there is no room for
digits to the right of the decimal...

Hope this helps...

-Tim

 Hi, all,

 My developer continually got ora-1722 when he was
 installing a new billing system. I used 10046 event to get
 trace file, but i could not figure out which bind variable
 value causes the error, here is the part of trace:
 PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=229 dep=0 uid=62 oct=2 lid=62
 tim=807252370 hv=4084410285 ad='9f31e880'
 insert into fold_bal_impacts_t ( element_id,
 fixed_operand, flags, free_quantity, gl_id,
 scaled_operand, rec_id, obj_id0 ) values ( :element_id,
 :fixed_operand, :flags, :free_quantity, :gl_id,
 :scaled_operand, :rec_id, :obj_id0 ) END OF STMT
 PARSE
 #1:c=0,e=1,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=0,tim=80725237
 0 BINDS #1:
  bind 0: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=224 offset=0
bfp=018bacd0 bln=22 avl=03 flg=05
value=250
  bind 1: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=24
bfp=018bace8 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 2: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=56
bfp=018bad08 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 3: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=80
bfp=018bad20 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 4: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=112
bfp=018bad40 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 5: dty=1 mxl=32(07) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=136
bfp=018bad58 bln=32 avl=07 flg=01
value=6.55802
  bind 6: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=168
bfp=018bad78 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 7: dty=1 mxl=32(05) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=192
bfp=018bad90 bln=32 avl=05 flg=01
value=10382
 EXEC
 #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=2,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=3,tim=80725237
 0 ERROR #1:err=1722 tim=807252370


 And here is the table:

 SQLdesc fold_bal_impacts_t
  NameNull?Type
  --- 
 
  OBJ_ID0  NUMBER(38)
  REC_ID   NUMBER(38)
  ELEMENT_ID   NUMBER(38)
  FIXED_OPERANDNUMBER
  FLAGSNUMBER(38)
  FREE_QUANTITYNUMBER
  GL_IDNUMBER(38)
  SCALED_OPERAND   NUMBER

 And there is no any constraints on this table.

 Please help, thanks.

 Mike

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RE: oracle temp files

2002-12-03 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Check view V$TEMP_SPACE_HEADER. 
I suggest referring to Metalink Notes: 160426.1 and 188610.1 

- Kirti

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Hi 


If I create a temporary tablespace using temp files, how is it possible to
check the space usage of that tablespace.

They do not show up in dba_free_space nor dba_data_files. DBA_TEMP_FILES
gives me user_bytes and blocks. is this the opposite of the info in
dba_free_space??

TIA
Jack




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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-03 Thread Richard Ji
Jay,

Don't think it will bypass the freelist there.  I don't think the freelist
is the cause of the problem here.

Richard

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I had one thought.
The Freelist parameter for this table is only set to 1.  Is it possible that
if it gets tied up with contention for the freelist that it grabs a new
extent?

I see that some of these blocks are being written to, the
num_freelist_blocks is now down to 2095705.  But the new data file has grown
to 600 Meg.

I've opened a TAR to see what Oracle says but I'm not encouraged by the
first question they sent me (which was asking to query dba_free_space).

Jay

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 6:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what degree of parallelism is
defined for the table?
What is the next extent size set to?
If the table is paralleled, EACH parallel worker will grab a next extent
sized segment. (Been bit by
this a few times...)
How many indexes and are they in the same tablespace?

Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
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Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

Jay

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

--- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rachel,

 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.

 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.

 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you in person some time.
  Have
 you
 talked to Priscilla lately?

 Richard Ji


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 5:29 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 how would coalescing help even if there were a lot of smaller free
 extents? Oracle would do the coalesce automatically, there would be
 no
 difference between manually coalescing or allowing Oracle to do it
 when
 a new extent was needed.


 --- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Coalescing might help if there are many smaller free extents
  that can be coalesced.  But that still doesn't solve Jay's problem.
  Because he doesn't want the table to extent at all since he just
  deleted
  2 million rows so there are plenty of space within the segment
  itself.
  Those free blocks should be used, unless he is doing a direct path
  insert
  which will only use space above the HWM.
 
  Richard Ji
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 2:05 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  did u coalesced the tablespaces?
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: sexta-feira, 29 de Novembro de 2002 17:59
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Okay, I can't figure this one out.  Earlier this week I got an
  ORA-1653:
  unable to extend table on a really big table.  However this was
 just
  after I
  had deleted over 2 million rows in the table and we were only
  inserting
  30,000.
 
  After reanalyzing the table I saw the following stats in
 DBA_TABLES:
 
  num_freelist_blocks:  2266966
  avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895
 
  Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over 8Gig available
 for
  inserts.
 
  We tried the insert again and got the same error so I added a
 

RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-03 Thread Miller, Jay
Just for grins, here's the level of support I'm getting on my Oracle TAR:

--
You had stated earlier:
1/ After reanalyzing the table I saw the following stats in DBA_TABLES:
num_freelist_blocks: 2266966
avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895
Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over 8Gig available for
inserts.

2/ I've had to add another data file and it has already grown to 600 Meg. 

If the table is only 600 mb, then there is no way that it can have 8 gb of
free space. Since you have a lot of blocks with some free space, you may
want to export and import the table back to re-org the table... 
--

Someone should inform these people that a table can consist of more than one
datafile...


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I had one thought.
The Freelist parameter for this table is only set to 1.  Is it possible that
if it gets tied up with contention for the freelist that it grabs a new
extent?

I see that some of these blocks are being written to, the
num_freelist_blocks is now down to 2095705.  But the new data file has grown
to 600 Meg.

I've opened a TAR to see what Oracle says but I'm not encouraged by the
first question they sent me (which was asking to query dba_free_space).

Jay

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 6:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what degree of parallelism is
defined for the table?
What is the next extent size set to?
If the table is paralleled, EACH parallel worker will grab a next extent
sized segment. (Been bit by
this a few times...)
How many indexes and are they in the same tablespace?

Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
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Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

Jay

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

--- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rachel,

 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.

 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.

 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you in person some time.
  Have
 you
 talked to Priscilla lately?

 Richard Ji


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 5:29 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 how would coalescing help even if there were a lot of smaller free
 extents? Oracle would do the coalesce automatically, there would be
 no
 difference between manually coalescing or allowing Oracle to do it
 when
 a new extent was needed.


 --- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Coalescing might help if there are many smaller free extents
  that can be coalesced.  But that still doesn't solve Jay's problem.
  Because he doesn't want the table to extent at all since he just
  deleted
  2 million rows so there are plenty of space within the segment
  itself.
  Those free blocks should be used, unless he is doing a direct path
  insert
  which will only use space above the HWM.
 
  Richard Ji
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 2:05 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  did u coalesced the tablespaces?
 
  -Original 

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RE: Extent sizes when using LMT with autoallocate clause

2002-12-03 Thread Fink, Dan
Title: Extent sizes when using LMT with autoallocate clause



From 
memory...
16 
extents of 64K = 1 meg
63 
extents of 1m = 63 meg (64 total)
120 extents of 8m = 960 meg (1024 meg or 1 gig 
total)
Additional extents are 64m (I never found an upward bound in testing...) 
*This is undocumented by Oracle (last I checked)

Dan 
Fink

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  ORACLE-LSubject: Extent sizes when using LMT with autoallocate 
  clause
  Hi! 
  I was wondering what the allocated extent sizes for locally 
  managed tablespaces with the autoallocate clause are? The first extents are 
  64k in size. How many 64k chunks are allocated? What are the next 
  sizes?
  CREATE TABLESPACE local_auto DATAFILE '/u02/oradata/local_auto01.dbf' 
  SIZE 1M reuse EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL 
  AUTOALLOCATE; 
  This is 9.2.0.2 on Solaris. 
  Thanks, Helmut 



RE: Help with Java

2002-12-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
John - I forwarded your message to one of our newly-trained Java
programmers. He replied with:
   The code is incomplete, how are they handling the connection. 
   Obviously the while loops are messing each other up.
   There are multiple ways of handling this.
   If I see the complete code I can be more specific.

Dennis Williams
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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:25 PM
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All,

I am beginning the journey into JAVA and have hit an odd behavior
(well, probably not, but I can't see any reason for it).  I am 
building a list of tablespaces and the datafiles that belong to them.
The open to the database is working fine.  When I use:

 ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
SELECT tablespace_name  +
FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
  );

  while (myTablespaces.next()) {
// retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
// getString() method
ct = ct + 1;
String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
  }
  myTablespace.close();

I am generating a list of tablespaces and the output is as expected.
When I add a second result set, the first datafile of the first tablespace
returns and then the program completes: 

 ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
SELECT tablespace_name  +
FROM   dba_tablespaces  +
WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'
  );
  while (myTablespaces.next()) {
// retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
// getString() method
ct = ct + 1;
String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
System.out.println(Tablespace  + ct +  is:  + tablespace);
 
ResultSet myDataFiles = myStatement.executeQuery(
  SELECT file_name  +
  FROM   dba_data_files  +
  WHERE  tablespace_name = ' + tablespace + '
);
  
while (myDataFiles.next()) {
  String filename = myDataFiles.getString(1);
  System.out.println(   + filename);
}
myDataFiles.close();
  }
  myTablespaces.close();


Anybody with some Java experience have any insite?

As always, TIA,

John P Weatherman
Database Administrator
Replacements Ltd.
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RE: install of 64 and 32 bit

2002-12-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: install of 64 and 32 bit





AIX 5.1 you can install only 9201 64 bit.


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Re: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Igor Neyman
Stephan,

There will be no relevant info in the alert.log about the time when database
was unavailable, if database was not shut down properly (let say, the plug
was pulled).
Or, may be I misunderstood you?

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  Ethan,
 
  That records the startup times, but does not record the time
  that the database was unavailable.
 
  What's needed is a 3rd party monitor that is not dependent
  on the database being up to record metrics.
 
  Jared
 

 Jared,

   I am far from having given much thought to this interesting idea but
 you can possibly work around this by using utl_file to check
 background_dump_dest. If it's not recorded in the alert.log, you
 probably have a .trc file hanging around. This optimistically assumes of
 course that you do not let you alert.log file grow out of control,
 because the idea of reading with UTL_FILE a 300M+ text file is not
 properly exciting. In fact the solution might be some external procedure
 to do in C directory operations, stat() calls and the like.
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RE:

2002-12-03 Thread Stephen Lee

On Unix, you can back up the installation directory.  If you need to go back
to the old version, put the old directory back.  You can use tape, tar,
cpio, cp, etc. to do this.

Example 1
cd /path/here/product
tar cvf /path/elsewhere/old817.tar 8.1.7 (assuming 8.1.7 is the directory to
back up)
If you want, you can compress the resulting tar file.

Example 2
cd /path/here/product/8.1.7
find . -print | cpio -pvmud /path/elsewhere/8.1.7

If you find that you need to go back to the old version, just restore your
backup.


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 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:21 PM
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 Subject: 
 
 
 Gurus,
 
 I was just given a project to maintain a Computerized Maintenance 
 Management System.  When I asked the companies support staff 
 how to roll 
 back patches in the backend Oracle Database (Ver. 8174), they 
 said that 
 there was no way to do this.  I'm guessing I could use 
 logminer just incase 
 a patch doesn't work.  Would this be a good solution, or are 
 there other 
 (better) ways of safeguarding myself when it comes to 
 patching?  Obviously, 
 I will be applying the patches to a test instance first, but 
 I don't want 
 to have to go back to restore from a backup if the patch 
 causes unexpected 
 issues.
 
 TIA!
 
 
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RE: ORA-2083 DATABASE name has illegal character '-'

2002-12-03 Thread Rick_Cale

Yes I have taken the insert statement out of the logon trigger and it works
fine.  I think there may be a possible bug
with logon trigger using database links.




   
  
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Rick - Have you tested the link itself?

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Hi,

Oracle 8.1.6.0.0 NT 4.0

I have the following logon trigger.  It works fine as long I insert into
local table. If I try to insert into a table across a database link the
record get inserted but upon exiting the app whether it is
sqlplus,forms,etc I get ora-2083.  I think it is probably a bug since I
have exact same environment and it works Ok. It fails
on 3 other identical environments.  Anyone heard of any possible bugs using
database link in logon trigger?  I search metalink and google but
no such reported error.


DROP PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink;
CREATE PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink CONNECT TO utilities
IDENTIFIED BY 123x456x USING 'a123456';

GRANT SELECT ON v_$session TO PUBLIC;
GRANT SELECT ON v_$instance TO PUBLIC;
DROP TRIGGER login_capture;
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER login_capture AFTER LOGON ON DATABASE
DECLARE
  CURSOR temp_rec IS
SELECT user AS user_name,
   NVL(UPPER(SUBSTR(osuser,1,30)),'SERVER') AS os_user_name,
   RTRIM(NVL(SUBSTR(machine,instr(machine,'\') +1,12),'SERVER'),CHR(0))
AS machine_name,
   sid AS session_id,
   serial# AS serial_no,
   SYSDATE AS logon_time,
   SYS_CONTEXT('userenv','ip_address') AS ip_address,
   NVL(SUBSTR(program,1,64),'INTERNAL') AS program_name,
   i.instance_name AS instance_name,
   i.host_name AS host_name,
   i.version AS version
FROM v$session s,v$instance i
WHERE s.username = user
AND   s.logon_time = (SELECT MAX(x.logon_time)
  FROM v$session x
  WHERE x.username = user);
BEGIN
FOR rec IN temp_rec LOOP
INSERT INTO login_history@utilities_itport02_dblink
 (user_name,
  os_user_name,
  machine_name,
  session_id,
  serial_no,
  logon_time,
  ip_address,
  program_name,
  instance_name,
  host_name,
  version)
VALUES (rec.user_name,
  rec.os_user_name,
  rec.machine_name,
  rec.session_id,
  rec.serial_no,
  rec.logon_time,
  rec.ip_address,
  rec.program_name,
  rec.instance_name,
  rec.host_name,
  rec.version);
END LOOP;
EXCEPTION
 WHEN OTHERS THEN
   NULL;
END;
/
ALTER TRIGGER login_capture ENABLE;


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RE: image storage confusion ??

2002-12-03 Thread Wong, Bing
I would test it on raw disk device because it avoids double buffering.

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Guys , i posted this already and this time my question is a bit 
different .

I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each either in DB ( on 
win2k) or linux o/s file system.

the images are to be displayed over mobile phones.so the time to 
retrieve the images should be minimum.

  for this to be achieved , i am confused , whether the images
  should be stored in o/s file system or in the DB ?

  --selecting a file from linux o/s file system ---
   or
  --querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k) ---

  which of the above will be faster ?

all these will be done with java . this being condition , i 
would
  like to know ur suggestion guys.

  my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.

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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Richard
Kirti,

Nice script for checking availability.  May I remind everyone that you get
an additional free check by running this on a different physical host -
you are then checking physical host availability and at least some degree
of network connectivity as well.

I still think my original suggestion has some merit - Ethan was talking
about some functionality to indicate service levels and track
uptime/downtime, whereas we seem to have steered the discussion into a
database availability monitoring tool.  Still, it's been a good discussion
with a lot of valid comments by everyone involved.



   
 
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Tool? I have a tool. Want to buy? ;)

It's a simple script that connects (actually attempts to connect with a
fake id/pw) to the target DB (on Windows, HP-Alpha/VMS, UNIX) over Oracle
Net. Scans for the ORA- errors and we know if the DB is accessible or not,
as well as if Listener is responding. No need for any 'special' ids to run
'select stuff from dual', which in itself can be expensive (depending on
the DB version).

I think I had posted this script a few times before.
Here it is again. Customize it to suit you requirements to send
page/emails/update table etc...:
(btw -- Steve Adams has an elaborate version that checks for a few more
things. Check his web site)

#!/usr/bin/ksh
#
# dbcheck : Script to check if database is up and accessible
#
# Author : Kirti Deshpande
#---

echo Enter Name of the Database SID to check if it is accessible
read DB

sqlplus -s  EOF  /tmp/$$.1
whenever sqlerror exit
aaa/aaa@$DB
exit;
EOF
egrep 'ORA-121|ORA-01034' /tmp/$$.1  /dev/null
if [[ $? = 0 ]]
then
   echo - '$DB' is _NOT_ Accessible\n
else
   grep 'ORA-01017' /tmp/$$.1  /dev/null
   if [[ $? = 0 ]]
   then
 echo - '$DB' is UP and Accessible\n
   else
 echo - '$DB' is _NOT_ Accessible\n
   fi
fi
rm /tmp/$$.1

# --- End of File

- Kirti




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Yup, got that covered :)

If I may add another point. When dealing with SLA's, you not only have to
show that the database has been servicing users that are connected
(showing database uptime), but also that users can also *connect* to the
database as well (the listener is servicing requests).

If you were to go about this with a trigger/procedure that inserts in to a
table, then this doesn't show that the database was available to
everybody.

Typically what we do with monitoring tools is a connect on ping, so when
we are checking availability of a database we do a full connect, then
select 'PING' from dual;. If there are any errors along the way we search
for the error code, and deal with the appropriate alerts (TNS = Listener
problem, ORA = Database problem).

Of course, the problem with doing it this way, is that you are going to
have
to write platform dependant scripts (batches for NT, shell type scripts for
Unix), and not have a one for all with a database based solution.

Go buy a tool. Let it write to a table/file, alert you AND make the coffee
for when you get there! ;)

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[Q] ORACLE 9.2 SGA_MAX_size cause SUN server crash ????

2002-12-03 Thread dist cash



We are doing ORACLE 9.2.0.2 Enterprise Edition testing on SUN server
(Solaris 8).  Currently one problem happen.  If I put SGA_MAX_size entry
on init.ora file and restart database, the SUN server will crash and
following messages on /var/adm/message file:


Dec  3 13:34:59 ISS unix: [ID 253085 kern.notice]
NOTICE: hat_memload: unsupported flags 256
Dec  3 13:35:00 ISS unix: [ID 253085 kern.notice]
NOTICE: hat_memload: unsupported flags 256
Dec  3 13:35:02 ISS last message repeated 9618 times
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS unix: [ID 836849 kern.notice]
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS ^Mpanic[cpu3]/thread=ffba0ac0:
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS unix: [ID 977504 kern.notice] invalid shared memory
l1 ptp
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS unix: [ID 10 kern.notice]
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 872817 kern.notice] e166ba40
unix:srmmu_share+130 (0, 0, ff61af38, 0, 8, ff619c20)
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 645206 kern.notice]   %l0-7: 0800
ff61a998 2100 0001 ffc77004 ff0982c0 ffc77484 01629b
31
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 872817 kern.notice] e166bab0
genunix:as_dup+dc (0, ffba14a0, ff61a9b4, ffbe2c28, ffbe2c44, ff61a99
8)
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 645206 kern.notice]   %l0-7: e00e94f0
ffc8f760 f0a2981c ff385908 e166bb7c ff385908  df13a0
00
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 872817 kern.notice] e166bb10
genunix:cfork+10c (0, 0, ff876768, 1e, 0, 0)
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 645206 kern.notice]   %l0-7: 40401085
df119740 df119744 e006  ffba0ac0 ff577c10 e166bb
80
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS unix: [ID 10 kern.notice]
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 672855 kern.notice] syncing file
systems...
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 733762 kern.notice]  2
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 733762 kern.notice]  1
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS last message repeated 19 times
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 616637 kern.notice]  cannot sync --
giving up
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 353387 kern.notice] dumping to
/dev/dsk/c0t0d0s1, offset 83886080
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 409368 kern.notice] ^M100% done: 10698
pages dumped, compression ratio 2.95,
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 851671 kern.notice] dump succeeded



If I take out SGA_MAX_size entry from init.ora, the database run
correctly.  Does anyone knoe why SUN server crash?


Thanks.






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Re:

2002-12-03 Thread Rick_Cale

I would recommend a restore because you are going to backup for applying a
patch anyway RIGHT?  Logminer would do nothing as far as the OS files
getting overwritten by applying the patch.

Rick



   
   
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Gurus,

I was just given a project to maintain a Computerized Maintenance
Management System.  When I asked the companies support staff how to roll
back patches in the backend Oracle Database (Ver. 8174), they said that
there was no way to do this.  I'm guessing I could use logminer just incase

a patch doesn't work.  Would this be a good solution, or are there other
(better) ways of safeguarding myself when it comes to patching?  Obviously,

I will be applying the patches to a test instance first, but I don't want
to have to go back to restore from a backup if the patch causes unexpected
issues.

TIA!


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Re: which bind variable value causes ora-1722

2002-12-03 Thread Arup Nanda
Mike,

If there a trigger on the table that does some DML with another table?

You already got the sql statement. Why not run that in sql*plus the exact
same way, after declaring the bind variables and assigning them the same
values you found in the trace file and see what happens?

From sql prompt

variable element_id number
variable...
exec :element_id := 250
...
finally your query verbatim.

HTH

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 Hi, all,

 My developer continually got ora-1722 when he was installing a new billing
 system. I used 10046 event to get trace file, but i could not figure out
 which bind variable value causes the error, here is the part of trace:

 PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=229 dep=0 uid=62 oct=2 lid=62 tim=807252370
 hv=4084410285 ad='9f31e880'
 insert into fold_bal_impacts_t ( element_id, fixed_operand, flags,
 free_quantity, gl_id, scaled_operand, rec_id, obj_id0 ) values (
 :element_id, :fixed_operand, :flags, :free_quantity, :gl_id,
 :scaled_operand, :rec_id, :obj_id0 )
 END OF STMT
 PARSE #1:c=0,e=1,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=0,tim=807252370
 BINDS #1:
  bind 0: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=0 size=224
 offset=0
bfp=018bacd0 bln=22 avl=03 flg=05
value=250
  bind 1: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=10 size=0
 offset=24
bfp=018bace8 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 2: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=0 size=0
 offset=56
bfp=018bad08 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 3: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=10 size=0
 offset=80
bfp=018bad20 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 4: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=0 size=0
 offset=112
bfp=018bad40 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 5: dty=1 mxl=32(07) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=10 size=0
 offset=136
bfp=018bad58 bln=32 avl=07 flg=01
value=6.55802
  bind 6: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=0 size=0
 offset=168
bfp=018bad78 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 7: dty=1 mxl=32(05) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01 oacfl2=10 size=0
 offset=192
bfp=018bad90 bln=32 avl=05 flg=01
value=10382
 EXEC #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=2,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=3,tim=807252370
 ERROR #1:err=1722 tim=807252370


 And here is the table:

 SQLdesc fold_bal_impacts_t
  NameNull?Type
  ---  
  OBJ_ID0  NUMBER(38)
  REC_ID   NUMBER(38)
  ELEMENT_ID   NUMBER(38)
  FIXED_OPERANDNUMBER
  FLAGSNUMBER(38)
  FREE_QUANTITYNUMBER
  GL_IDNUMBER(38)
  SCALED_OPERAND   NUMBER

 And there is no any constraints on this table.

 Please help, thanks.

 Mike

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the issue solved Re: which bind variable value causes ora-1722

2002-12-03 Thread mike ding
After spending hours debugging, we finally found the solution: NLS_LANG.
There is no problem if nls_lang is american_america.utf8; while ora-1722
occurs when nls_lang is set to american_canada.utf8. The culprit is 6.55802.
And when nls_lang is set to american_canada.utf8, the default decimal
separator is a comma! So Oracle failed to do implicit conversion
to_number('6.55208'), could only do to_number('6,55208').

Thanks.

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 Mike,

 It is the value in the :gl_id string, which is 6.55802.
 The column GL_ID is defined as an integer of 38 digits (i.e.
 NUMBER(38) instead of NUMBER), so there is no room for
 digits to the right of the decimal...

 Hope this helps...

 -Tim

  Hi, all,
 
  My developer continually got ora-1722 when he was
  installing a new billing system. I used 10046 event to get
  trace file, but i could not figure out which bind variable
  value causes the error, here is the part of trace:
  PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=229 dep=0 uid=62 oct=2 lid=62
  tim=807252370 hv=4084410285 ad='9f31e880'
  insert into fold_bal_impacts_t ( element_id,
  fixed_operand, flags, free_quantity, gl_id,
  scaled_operand, rec_id, obj_id0 ) values ( :element_id,
  :fixed_operand, :flags, :free_quantity, :gl_id,
  :scaled_operand, :rec_id, :obj_id0 ) END OF STMT
  PARSE
  #1:c=0,e=1,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=0,tim=80725237
  0 BINDS #1:
   bind 0: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
  oacfl2=0 size=224 offset=0
 bfp=018bacd0 bln=22 avl=03 flg=05
 value=250
   bind 1: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
  oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=24
 bfp=018bace8 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
 value=0
   bind 2: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
  oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=56
 bfp=018bad08 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
 value=0
   bind 3: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
  oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=80
 bfp=018bad20 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
 value=0
   bind 4: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
  oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=112
 bfp=018bad40 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
 value=0
   bind 5: dty=1 mxl=32(07) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
  oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=136
 bfp=018bad58 bln=32 avl=07 flg=01
 value=6.55802
   bind 6: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
  oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=168
 bfp=018bad78 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
 value=0
   bind 7: dty=1 mxl=32(05) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
  oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=192
 bfp=018bad90 bln=32 avl=05 flg=01
 value=10382
  EXEC
  #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=2,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=3,tim=80725237
  0 ERROR #1:err=1722 tim=807252370
 
 
  And here is the table:
 
  SQLdesc fold_bal_impacts_t
   NameNull?Type
   --- 
  
   OBJ_ID0  NUMBER(38)
   REC_ID   NUMBER(38)
   ELEMENT_ID   NUMBER(38)
   FIXED_OPERANDNUMBER
   FLAGSNUMBER(38)
   FREE_QUANTITYNUMBER
   GL_IDNUMBER(38)
   SCALED_OPERAND   NUMBER
 
  And there is no any constraints on this table.
 
  Please help, thanks.
 
  Mike
 
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RE: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-03 Thread Post, Ethan
I agree what is needed is something very generic that could monitor the
uptime of pretty much any process.  After giving this more thought and
always liking to keep things simple here is the direction I might eventually
head.  The logic below would result in a log file that shows all unscheduled
outage periods.  You would have to ensure it runs at regular intervals.

(NOT VERY PRETTY, BUT SIMPLE ENOUGH)

Files Required:

* Control file that has crontab like entries which define periods that are
either outages or times when database is expected to be running.

Script Workings:

* Run command/script which returns 0 or 1 (0=thingy not running, 1=thingy
running) use separate command/script to log into database, grep for process
etc...

If (( 0 ))
   check control file to see if thingy should be running
   if suppose to be running
   store time  trigger flag (cat time to flag file)
   if not suppose to be running
   if flag
  unscheduled outage was triggered but has rolled into an scheduled
outage period
  log start and end time for outage
  reset flag
   fi
   fi
else
   if flag 
  thingy is back up
  log start and end time for outage
  reset flag
   fi
fi
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RE: Semi-OT: Pics from OracleWorld

2002-12-03 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Connor:

 Perfect pictures.  Office looks cool.  Perhaps Larry could sell Oracle in
Linux there.  Small platform, low cost.

Thank You

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Subject:Semi-OT: Pics from OracleWorld

Apologies for the delay (the digital camera died on
the trip over) so apologies as well for the picture
quality (all taken with a throwaway disposable
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RE: ORA-2083 DATABASE name has illegal character '-'

2002-12-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rick - Can you do that insert in SQL*Plus (outside the trigger)? I'm sure
you have, just my logical completeness tendency.
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Yes I have taken the insert statement out of the logon trigger and it works
fine.  I think there may be a possible bug
with logon trigger using database links.




 

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Rick - Have you tested the link itself?

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Hi,

Oracle 8.1.6.0.0 NT 4.0

I have the following logon trigger.  It works fine as long I insert into
local table. If I try to insert into a table across a database link the
record get inserted but upon exiting the app whether it is
sqlplus,forms,etc I get ora-2083.  I think it is probably a bug since I
have exact same environment and it works Ok. It fails
on 3 other identical environments.  Anyone heard of any possible bugs using
database link in logon trigger?  I search metalink and google but
no such reported error.


DROP PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink;
CREATE PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink CONNECT TO utilities
IDENTIFIED BY 123x456x USING 'a123456';

GRANT SELECT ON v_$session TO PUBLIC;
GRANT SELECT ON v_$instance TO PUBLIC;
DROP TRIGGER login_capture;
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER login_capture AFTER LOGON ON DATABASE
DECLARE
  CURSOR temp_rec IS
SELECT user AS user_name,
   NVL(UPPER(SUBSTR(osuser,1,30)),'SERVER') AS os_user_name,
   RTRIM(NVL(SUBSTR(machine,instr(machine,'\') +1,12),'SERVER'),CHR(0))
AS machine_name,
   sid AS session_id,
   serial# AS serial_no,
   SYSDATE AS logon_time,
   SYS_CONTEXT('userenv','ip_address') AS ip_address,
   NVL(SUBSTR(program,1,64),'INTERNAL') AS program_name,
   i.instance_name AS instance_name,
   i.host_name AS host_name,
   i.version AS version
FROM v$session s,v$instance i
WHERE s.username = user
AND   s.logon_time = (SELECT MAX(x.logon_time)
  FROM v$session x
  WHERE x.username = user);
BEGIN
FOR rec IN temp_rec LOOP
INSERT INTO login_history@utilities_itport02_dblink
 (user_name,
  os_user_name,
  machine_name,
  session_id,
  serial_no,
  logon_time,
  ip_address,
  program_name,
  instance_name,
  host_name,
  version)
VALUES (rec.user_name,
  rec.os_user_name,
  rec.machine_name,
  rec.session_id,
  rec.serial_no,
  rec.logon_time,
  rec.ip_address,
  rec.program_name,
  rec.instance_name,
  rec.host_name,
  rec.version);
END LOOP;
EXCEPTION
 WHEN OTHERS THEN
   NULL;
END;
/
ALTER TRIGGER login_capture ENABLE;


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RE: [Q] ORACLE 9.2 SGA_MAX_size cause SUN server crash ????

2002-12-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Dist - It sounds like you are setting SGA_MAX_SIZE too large for the server
kernel. Try setting it smaller and see if the server is okay with that. If
this is true, then you may need to adjust some Solaris kernel parameters.
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We are doing ORACLE 9.2.0.2 Enterprise Edition testing on SUN server
(Solaris 8).  Currently one problem happen.  If I put SGA_MAX_size entry
on init.ora file and restart database, the SUN server will crash and
following messages on /var/adm/message file:


Dec  3 13:34:59 ISS unix: [ID 253085 kern.notice]
NOTICE: hat_memload: unsupported flags 256
Dec  3 13:35:00 ISS unix: [ID 253085 kern.notice]
NOTICE: hat_memload: unsupported flags 256
Dec  3 13:35:02 ISS last message repeated 9618 times
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS unix: [ID 836849 kern.notice]
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS ^Mpanic[cpu3]/thread=ffba0ac0:
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS unix: [ID 977504 kern.notice] invalid shared memory
l1 ptp
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS unix: [ID 10 kern.notice]
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 872817 kern.notice] e166ba40
unix:srmmu_share+130 (0, 0, ff61af38, 0, 8, ff619c20)
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 645206 kern.notice]   %l0-7: 0800
ff61a998 2100 0001 ffc77004 ff0982c0 ffc77484 01629b
31
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 872817 kern.notice] e166bab0
genunix:as_dup+dc (0, ffba14a0, ff61a9b4, ffbe2c28, ffbe2c44, ff61a99
8)
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 645206 kern.notice]   %l0-7: e00e94f0
ffc8f760 f0a2981c ff385908 e166bb7c ff385908  df13a0
00
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 872817 kern.notice] e166bb10
genunix:cfork+10c (0, 0, ff876768, 1e, 0, 0)
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 645206 kern.notice]   %l0-7: 40401085
df119740 df119744 e006  ffba0ac0 ff577c10 e166bb
80
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS unix: [ID 10 kern.notice]
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 672855 kern.notice] syncing file
systems...
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 733762 kern.notice]  2
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 733762 kern.notice]  1
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS last message repeated 19 times
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 616637 kern.notice]  cannot sync --
giving up
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 353387 kern.notice] dumping to
/dev/dsk/c0t0d0s1, offset 83886080
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 409368 kern.notice] ^M100% done: 10698
pages dumped, compression ratio 2.95,
Dec  3 13:35:03 ISS genunix: [ID 851671 kern.notice] dump succeeded



If I take out SGA_MAX_size entry from init.ora, the database run
correctly.  Does anyone knoe why SUN server crash?


Thanks.






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