RE: database hanging during mount

2003-08-09 Thread raju pa
bin laden : you are right about drink and cd but now a days they tell you to open a metalink tar. unless this is production. 

seriously : is nfs mounted volume supported. on nt it does not recognize non local drives. Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Get a drink, put some nice CD in the player and call (800) 223-1711.


--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank KesselSent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:14 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: database hanging during mountI am running Oracle 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8. I recently decided that I needed more space on the disk partitions that hold my Oracle databases. The machine I am running on didn't have room for more disks so I decided to nfs mount partitions from another machine. I backed up the existing partitions resized the one partition that I have locally and nfs mounted the other 3 partitions and restored all the partitions.The problem is when I try to STARTUP the database it hangs during the mount of the database. I am able to successfully STARTUP NOMOUNT. The instance starts then !
on the
 mount I receive the following in my trc file:ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [2116], [900], [], [], [], [], [], []ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [2116], [900], [], [], [], [], [], []From what I can determine this indicates that ORACLE is unable access the control file...permissions appear to be correct. Any suggestions on what I need to check? Any known problems with control files over a nfs mount?Thank youFrank


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Re: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-09 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Can you please list select emplid, empl_rcd, effdt, effseq,  empl_status 
from ps_job where emplid = '3442'

At 03:34 PM 8/6/2003 -0800, you wrote:
While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar update (2nd
callback) I am just wondering if anybody has found this problem.
We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft implementation)

SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt
FROM PS_JOB A
WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT MAX(A1.EFFDT)  FROM PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID =
A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A1.EMPL_RCD  AND A1.EFFDT = SYSDATE)
AND A.EFFSEQ =  (SELECT MAX(A2.EFFSEQ)  FROM PS_JOB A2  WHERE A.EMPLID =
A2.EMPLID  AND A.EMPL_RCD = A2.EMPL_RCD  AND A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT)
AND A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A'
and a.emplid='3442'
when we run the query we get one row back, but when we replace the field
names with count(*), the resulting answer back is 2.
We have tested it in 8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row,
and a count of 1.
Darren


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Re: Standby database ORA-16016

2003-08-09 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

I think archive log gap management is a new feature in 9i Data Guard. Check
9i's docs. You might have to build custom scripts for gap management in 8i.

Also, I recommend you to use documentation from authentic location,
http://tahiti.oracle.com

Tanel.
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 ORA-16016 archived log for thread string sequence# string unavailable

 Hello All

 I have a standby database oracle 8.1.7.4 on win2k running in managed
 recovery mode. NET8 have been transferring logs untill somehow the
 primary or standby server must have rebooted and I have now have
 sequence gaps.

 This doc seems to be everything you ever wanted to know about standby
 databses
 http://www.cs.rose-hulman.edu/docs/oracle-817/server.817/a76995/standbyc
 .htm#29765

 But does not seem to address my problem.

 I would think... The primary database, would be sure to send *any* logs
 it has not sent. How can I be sure the primary sends all logs?

 Ive performed a log switch and the missing logs do not get sent.

 Does anyone have any suggestions to correct this? I would be very
 thankful.

 have a good weekend all!

 bob

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RE: drop user

2003-08-09 Thread Jared Still

Everything looks like a big hammer to you,
doesn't it Stephen?  

;)

On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 17:54, Stephen Lee wrote:
 
 Much faster:
 
 SQL select file_name from dba_data_files where tablespace_name = 'SYSTEM';
 
 SQL !rm file_name
 
 POOF!!  User gone.  Very fast.
 
  -Original Message-
  
  Personnaly, I like to write a short script to generate the 
  SQL to drop all 
  the users tables with the 'cascade constraints' option.
  
  I then do a 'drop user cascade;'
  
  If there are a lot of tables/indexes, the recursive SQL can 
  take awhile, 
  assuming a fair number of extents per object.
  
  Then again, if you're using LMTs, then the recursive SQL 
  shouldn't be too 
  bad.
  
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RE: Opatch

2003-08-09 Thread Rognes, Sten

Looks like PERL5LIB is not set in your environment. If perl is installed
under /usr/local, the libraries are located in
PERL5LIB=/usr/local/perl/lib/perl ver#

Regards,
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I'm trying to use opatch and receive the following error

[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ opatch apply
PERL5LIB=; export PERL5LIB
/usr/local/bin/perl
/opt/oracle/admin/general/patchsets/opatch/patch2617419/OPat
ch/opatch.pl apply
Can't call method build_option_details on an undefined value at
/opt/oracle/admin/general/patchsets/opatch/patch2617419/OPatch/opatch_module
s/Apply.pm line 2299.


ORACLE_HOME is correctly set, PATH is correct as well.  Any idea what the
problem may be.

Every opatch command fails with the above error including such things as
opatch -version.

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Re: Implementing different document types with different attributes

2003-08-09 Thread John Thomas
Tim,

Are you using 9i?

If so create a parent_t object type with the common attributes.

Create child object types UNDER parent_t.

You can then define a table of type parent_t able to accept rows of all 
types.

Cheers,

John Thomas

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sorry, misunderstood

Invoices:
  - Origin
  - Form Template ID
  - AWB
  - Bill To Customer
  - Bill To Customer Name
  - Invoice #
  - Invoice date
  - customs Entry #
  - entry date
  - query handling (boolean)
  - cash application (boolean)
  - credit  collection (boolean)
  - text search (boolean)
  - shipment folder (boolean)
Customs Document:
  - AWB
  - Clearance #
  - Customs Entry #
  - Entry date
  - deferement #
Cash batches:
  - query handling (boolean)
  - cash application (boolean)
  - credit  collection (boolean)
So, you could see, we've more than 50 type of documents and in total 
those have more than 70 different attributes (some are the same). There 
is not one attribute that appears on every document type!!!
I would create so 50 tables (for each document type 1), but if someone 
has another suggestion, I would like to do it in an other way.

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attributes


Just one or two examples, please.



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What do you have as an example of an attribute?



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Hello

I've an installation/implementation question!
We've to analyse 50 document types, in total those 50 has 70 different
attributes.
We don't want to put all those document types into one table, because more
than the half (35) of the attributes are not always used for each document
type. This will have to much disk space for each record, if most of the
fields are just blank.
Has anyone suggestions how to build our table-structure?
I've heart something about FlexFields, what are they?
Takes every field diskspace, even if it's blank (null)?
Thanks in advance for the response!

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Re: Corrupt Inactive RedoLog Goup.

2003-08-09 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

I think the command was alter database clear unarchived logfile 'xxx';

IIRC,
Tanel.

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 Members,

 Production 8.1.6.3 database on Windows NT 4.0.

 We noticed an entry in the alert log, citing that a log group could not be
 archived since the 25th of July.. We have 3 log groups with 2 members
each.
 I notice that the 3rd redolog group has a status of Inactive with
 Archived=No. This group has a sequence# of 745, while the other two have
 advanced to 1073 and 1074 now.  We have had too many log switches since
 then, and Oracle has chosen to ignore using this corrupt redo log group.
 The database gets bounced daily, and opens without a problem, since this
 group is not needed for instance recovery. I tried manual archiving.

 SQLWKS alter system archive log group 3;
 ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
 ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 SQLWKS alter system archive log logfile 'F:
 \ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
  2 ;
 ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
 ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 SQLWKS alter system archive log logfile 'G:
 \ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
  2
  3 ;
 ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
 ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'

 Similarly, it does not allow me to drop this member, saying it has not
been
 archived. Can I fake a recovery using cancel. and then open resetlogs? Or
 if I put the database in noarchivelog mode, will Oracle let me drop this
 corrupt redolog group?

 Thanks
 Raj



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ODBC Problem with @ sign

2003-08-09 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Is 
anyone aware of a problem with the 8.1.7 Client ODBC driver handling the '@' sign?

Ron 
Smith

  


RE: It's an Oracle Fun Friday!

2003-08-09 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: It's an Oracle Fun Friday!





or Stephen - something even worse


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Interesting web site that bigip... Picture of Larry with the annotation --
Coming Soon. Does this mean that Larry truly does not exist yet???


Thank You


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Just looking at netcraft.com to see what Oracle's
running these days, when I
noticed their netblock is owned by Oracle
Datenbanksysteme GmbH. German
Oracle


First move before the SAP AG hostile takeover bid?


Regards,


Stephane Faroult
Oriole
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Change based recovery

2003-08-09 Thread Dobson, Lisa



Hi Guys and Gals, 

We are currently doing some 
testing to enable us to move our production database from one unix box to 
another.
We are running a 7.3.4 db 
in archivelog mode. The approach that management want to use is to restore 
the database on the new server from a backup and then roll it forward using the 
archived redo logs.

I have a full cold back up 
from last Friday. I have restored the datafiles, controlfiles and redo logs onto 
our test server from the backup tape, and then ftp'd the archived logs 
over.

I then do - 

SVRMGR startup 
mountORACLE instance started.Total System Global 
Area 258304260 bytesFixed 
Size 
45092 bytesVariable 
Size 
126925024 bytesDatabase 
Buffers 
131072000 bytesRedo 
Buffers 
262144 bytesDatabase mounted.SVRMGR recover database until change 
10349;Media recovery complete.

I would have expected it to 
display the names of the logs, butit 
doesn't, and when I check the alert log it shows 'No Media Recovery 
required'. 

Where am I going wrong? I can't understand why it won't 
apply the archived logs. (Too hot today and brain not working 
properly!)

TIA.
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RE: 9i - Dynamic SGA - SGA_MAX_SIZE

2003-08-09 Thread Nelson Flores
Mladen,
But then again, shmget and shmat use malloc/calloc internally, it just
differs in that shmget/shmat create the memory space and then make a public
handle so that multiple processes can access the memory allocated. (Very
simplisticly put)
So in a certain sense it is more than just a similar mechanism.

What was this discussion about anyway ;)


-Mensaje original-
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Enviado el: viernes, 08 de agosto de 2003 16:09
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: RE: 9i - Dynamic SGA - SGA_MAX_SIZE

BTW, my debate of this issue was completely incorrect. As a colleague from
This list has noted, SGA is created using shmget and shmat, not malloc and
calloc.
The only explanation might be that the mechanism is similar to the one of
malloc.

--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



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don't know if it's still true, i played with sga_max_size and db_cache_size
a year ago on 9.0  Solaris8  F15k w/o much luck.

when sga_max_size = 64G and db_cache_size = 32G, db started impressingly
fast. but db server cpu sys% jumped up to 90+ during warming-up tests,
leaving usr% close to 0. tests never finished. reduced sga_max_size = 40G
and db_cache_size = 32G, db cpu still around 50% sys. sga_max_size = 18G and
db_cache_size = 16G, db performing ok. 
after that gave up sga_max_size, increased db_cache_size to 24G
(sga_max_size was then auto set to 24G). db performing ok. db_cache_size =
32G (= sga_max_size). took 32 min to start db. db performing ok.
db_cache_size = 40G (just curious), took 40min to start db. db performing
ok.

-Jessica

--- Mohammed Shakir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kirti
 
 Thanks for the info.
 
 I could not raise dynamically the size of db_cache_size and did not
 know why, until I noticed the new parameter sga_max_size. Anyway, I 
 tried to lower the size of db_cache_size dynamically and I did not 
 have a problem. So sgma_max_size does play its role in 
 db_cache_sizing.
 
 I have not tested where I increase the size of sga_max_size using
 init.ora and then try to increase the size of db_cache_size 
 dynamically by the same size as the increase in sga_max_size. That is 
 the test for coming weekend.
 
 
 --- Kirtikumar Deshpande [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  SGA_MAX_SIZE was introduced in 9i to allow dynamic sizing of SGA
  (Dynamic Sizing feature) components such as, shared pool, large 
  pool, buffer cache etc. In versions up to 8i, such changes
  required bouncing the instance. 
  This parameter assumes the value of the SGA at instance startup.
  Various components of the SGA can
  then be increased/reduced as and when needed. The total SGA, thus,
  can reach a maximum value set
  by SGA_MAX_SIZE (if set in the init.ora file). That's the idea.
  However, the implementation is
  different on various platforms. With ISM, and DISM, on Solaris, there
  are other issues when it
  comes to using Dynamic SGA. You may want to search Metalink for
  specific notes/articles for
  Solaris. 
  On AIX 5L as I found out, Oracle uses SGA_MAX_SIZE, if set in
  init.ora, at the instanace startup,
  and allocates the excess (difference in computed SGA value and set
  SGA_MAX_SIZE) to 'variable
  size'. Hence there is no room for any dynamic sizing (upward) of any
  SGA component. I did not try
  to downsize shared pool first, and 'upsize' buffer cache later. May
  be that would work, but that
  is not the intention of using this parameter. 
  
  PGA_AGRREGATE_TARGET is completely different from this parameter. It
  sets an instance-wide upper limit for the memory used by sorting, 
  hashing processes.
  
  Hope this helps..
  
  - Kirti
   
  

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Re: RE: why does block cleanout incur redo?

2003-08-09 Thread Rajesh . Rao

Excerpts from one of my notes, collated from excellent papers or websites
by Steve Adams, Jonathan Lewis, and KGopal.

The  first block of every rollback segment, also called the segment header,
has  a structure called the transaction table, which keeps track of all the
active  transactions  in  that  rollback  segment.  Transactions that use a
rollback  segment  first register themselves in the transaction table using
their  transaction  id.  Also, each data block has one or many slots for an
Interested  transaction  List,  also  called  the  ITL,  in its header. Any
transaction  which modifies a row in a datablock must first get an ITL slot
in that datablock. Each ITL consists of a transaction id, an address to the
transaction  table  in  the  rollback segment, where the undo is located, a
flag  to  indicate  if  the transaction is open, committed or pending for a
cleanout, and the commit SCN. The ITL is contained in the transaction layer
of  an Oracle block header. Apart, from this, the cache layer of the oracle
block  header,  also  has  an  SCN which represents when the block was last
changed.

When  a  transaction  issues  a  commit,  Oracle  marks  the transaction as
commited  in  the  transaction  header  table of the corresponding rollback
segment.  Also, the changes in the log buffer are written to disk. However,
the  transaction  entry  in  the  ITL  of  the data block may or may not be
commited.  Before  Oracle  7.3, Oracle never marked any of the changed data
blocks  as  commited.  Any  subsequent  transaction  that needs to read the
changed  block,  would be directed to check the rollback segments to see if
the  transaction  is commited, and would then update the block headers with
the  commit SCN, close the ITL, and would tidy up the data block by writing
it to disk. This process is called a 'delayed block cleanout'. Staring with
Oracle 7.3, Oracle introduced a fast commit mechanism, whereby it does mark
some  of  the  changes  as  commited, depending on if your transaction is a
short one or a long one. The threshold value which decides if a transaction
is  a  long  one  or  a short one is 10% of the value for db_block_buffers.
Also,  the affected data blocks should be in the buffer cache. Thus, if the
number  of  blocks that is modified by a transaction does not exceed 10% of
the number of blocks in the database buffer cache, and all of affected data
block  are  still in the buffer cache, Oracle will indeed perform a 'commit
cleanout'. Else, the next transaction reading the affected data blocks will
perform a 'delayed block cleanout'.




   

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thanks... I have jonathan lewis's book on my list to read.

The transaction table is what is modified with the initrans and maxtrans
setting. I get it now.

when you perform block clean out you modify the block and state that it is
no longer being used in this transaction. when the blocks are flushed by
DBWR, the transaction table needs to be modified so that the number of
transactions that is occurring is known.

this causes redo. so that if you have to recover, the transaction table in
each block can be accurate. Am I correct?

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RE: 9i - Dynamic SGA - SGA_MAX_SIZE

2003-08-09 Thread Mladen Gogala
To continue down the Stephen's path, shutdown abort will complete very
quickly
and will drastically decrease the size of SGA. What is more, the very busy
environment
Will not be very busy any more. Perhaps very loud, but not very busy.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:35 PM
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U R Welcome.
Although, reducing SGA size is technically possible, it can be a very
expensive operation in a busy environemt and can take a long time to
complete. I have not run any specific tests to see how long it takes to
reduce SGA by a certain amount, but you can imagine what must be done (find
least used blocks/age out blocks, keep them from re-use, and finally
'detach' them etc..) 

- Kirti  

--- Mohammed Shakir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kirti
 
 Thanks for the info.
 
 I could not raise dynamically the size of db_cache_size and did not 
 know why, until I noticed the new parameter sga_max_size. Anyway, I 
 tried to lower the size of db_cache_size dynamically and I did not 
 have a problem. So sgma_max_size does play its role in 
 db_cache_sizing.
 
 I have not tested where I increase the size of sga_max_size using 
 init.ora and then try to increase the size of db_cache_size 
 dynamically by the same size as the increase in sga_max_size. That is 
 the test for coming weekend.
 
 
 --- Kirtikumar Deshpande [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  SGA_MAX_SIZE was introduced in 9i to allow dynamic sizing of SGA 
  (Dynamic Sizing feature) components such as, shared pool, large 
  pool, buffer cache etc. In versions up to 8i, such changes
  required bouncing the instance. 
  This parameter assumes the value of the SGA at instance startup.
  Various components of the SGA can
  then be increased/reduced as and when needed. The total SGA, thus,
  can reach a maximum value set
  by SGA_MAX_SIZE (if set in the init.ora file). That's the idea.
  However, the implementation is
  different on various platforms. With ISM, and DISM, on Solaris, there
  are other issues when it
  comes to using Dynamic SGA. You may want to search Metalink for
  specific notes/articles for
  Solaris. 
  On AIX 5L as I found out, Oracle uses SGA_MAX_SIZE, if set in
  init.ora, at the instanace startup,
  and allocates the excess (difference in computed SGA value and set
  SGA_MAX_SIZE) to 'variable
  size'. Hence there is no room for any dynamic sizing (upward) of any
  SGA component. I did not try
  to downsize shared pool first, and 'upsize' buffer cache later. May
  be that would work, but that
  is not the intention of using this parameter. 
  
  PGA_AGRREGATE_TARGET is completely different from this parameter. It 
  sets an instance-wide upper limit for the memory used by sorting, 
  hashing processes.
  
  Hope this helps..
  
  - Kirti
   
  

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Re: Implementing different document types with different attributes

2003-08-09 Thread JApplewhite

Tim,

As soon as I sent this I saw my mistake.   There's got to be one more
table.  Doc_Types and Doc_Attributes stay, but Documents gets changed and
Document_Attributes gets created.  Actually, if you wanted you could make a
single integer PK column for Doc_Type_Attributes and use that as the FK in
Document_Attributes.

Table Documents
   Doc_ID   NumberPK
  ,Doc_DescrVarChar2(100)
  ,Doc_Body BLOB(store this segment out-of-line
somewhere)
   (other Document columns)

Table Document_Attributes
   Doc_ID   NumberPK and FK to Documents
  ,Doc_Type_IDNumberPK and part of FK to
Doc_Type_Attributes
  ,Doc_Attrib_ID  NumberPK and part of FK to
Doc_Type_Attributes


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Tim,

How about this?

Table Doc_Types
   Doc_Type_IDNumberPK
  ,Doc_Type_Descr   VarChar2(100)

Table Doc_Attributes
   Doc_Attrib_ID  NumberPK
  ,Doc_Attrib_Descr VarChar2(100)

Table Doc_Type_Attributes  (Intersect table of the above two)
   Doc_Type_IDNumberPK and FK to Doc_Types
  ,Doc_Attrib_ID  NumterPK and FK to Doc_Attributes

Table Documents
   Doc_ID   NumberPK
  ,Doc_Type_IDNumberpart of FK to
Doc_Type_Attributes
  ,Doc_Attrib_ID  Numberpart of FK to
Doc_Type_Attributes
  ,Doc_DescrVarChar2(100)
  ,Doc_Body BLOB(store this segment out-of-line
somewhere)

This way you can have as many Doc Types and Attributes as you want and
never have to modify table designs if you add or remove some.  Also, no
blank columns.

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RE: IMP-00020: long column too large for column buffer size (22)

2003-08-09 Thread Odland, Brad
What about that buffer setting in imp...??

DOn't you have to set that higher than default when importing data that has
binary fields?

The exp file might be okay.

THis is the BUFFER input parameter to imp.

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Hi All,

One of our developer ftp'ed  the export (dmp) file from UNIX to NT in ASCII
mode. He didn't know that it supposed to be done in BINARY mode.  Now, he
ftp'ed the dmp file back to UNIX  in ASCII mode and tried doing the import.
Looks like dmp file has been corrupted and Import is giving the following
error.

IMP-00020: long column too large for column buffer size (22)
IMP-00028: partial import of previous table rolled back: 16380 rows rolled
back/

Is there any way to fix the dmp file. Any ideas?  I searched the metalink
and looks like there is no way to correct it.

It is on HP-UX and oracle 8.1.7.4

I appreciate your help.

Thanks.

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Re: Oracle and Windows 2000 SP4 - any experiences to share

2003-08-09 Thread Tanel Poder
 FWIW, I installed it on my P4 at work and it's
 caused no problems yet.  8.1.7.4 as well.
 But in my Athlon XP at home, it's made the system
 so unstable I had to upgrade all sorts of drivers!
 There you go, 6 of 1...

Hi!

I've used SP4 on Athlon XP for a week now (with Oracle 9.2.0.1). So far have
seen no problems..

Tanel.


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RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-09 Thread Guang Mei
1). I don't know. But I always try to create datafile with same size (2G)
and it is easier to estimate how many datafiles I can fit into one disk.

2). If all datafiles are on 1 disk, then 4 1G datafiles vs 2 2G. should not
make much difference. If you could spread 4 1G datafiles into 4 different
disks (mount points), then it is better.

3). I seem to read it from somewhere that Win2K has problem to handle
datafile larger than 2G.

Guang

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...

1) Is there any advantage to uniform datafile sizes?
2) Is there any advantage/disadvantage for say 4 1G datafiles vs 2 2G.
(Other than time to recover from datafile loss)
It is probably safe to assume that the datafiles  exist on a RAID 5. (for
now)
3) Why the recommendation to take a Win2k datafile to just over 2G?

For future apps I am pushing for optimal recommendations that go  for more
raid 1 sets or raid 10 over the Raid 5. This should allow for more
flexibility for spreading out the i/o.

Thanks for your patience and all the help.
David Phillips
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Win2K.  If you decide to increase the filesize, do it to more than 2G
(doesn't have to be by much).  Of course, you didn't mention autoextend so
this may not be an issue.

Also, just how many physical disks do you have?  Logical disks are not the
issue.  If you're going to get any increased performance you should be
putting the second datafile on a second physical disk.  Any how come you're
not using some sort of RAID device (or don't you have your logical drives
striped across your physical drives)?

There is no easy answer to your question without an understanding of the
reality of your disk layout.




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 In my experience, spreading datafiles across volumes
(specially if you are careful not to locate the a table's datafiles and its
indexes datafiles in the same drive) greatly increases performance.

 As for the file size, I can not say because I have not tested
it, but I think it should have no real impact compared to splitting it.
Reorganizing the database regularly is a better way to optimize
performance.

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Oracle 8.1.7.4
Win2k

What is the consensus on datafile sizing and the impact/overhead
multiple datafiles have on performance?

For example, if I have one  2.5g datafile, and three 1g datafiles, and I
need more space,  would it be better to increase the size  of the 1g to
2g or add another 1g datafile?.
Is it better to keep them all uniform  in size?

I would think  having multiple datafiles that could be spread across
drive volumes would be beneficial, am I wrong? (Wouldn't be the first
time :)

TIA

David Phillips
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Re: 100 instances on same server !!!

2003-08-09 Thread Tanel Poder



Hi!

Disk IO: Providing, that idle Oracle accesses all 
controlfiles every three seconds, then with 100 instances/databases, you'll have 
about 33 random IOs per second. Can your disks. If you 
got three controlfiles per database, then it means 100 IOs/sec, which gives 10ms 
per access, otherwise you'll overload your IO. And this is an idle database. In 
reality (even with idle db) you got much more IOs going on.

Disk space: 3GB per database * 100 = 300GB.

Memory:, an 8.1.7 instance takes at least 50MB of memory. 
Multiply it by 100 - 5GB. Without OS (and file system cache) memory 
requirements.

CPU: will probably get quite loaded as well, because for 
each user, there's a separate DBWR, LGWR, CKPT, monitor, queue, etc.. 
processes.

OS resources: you could very well run out of semaphores, 
file handles, shmseg's etc..

Maintenance: Hey man, you'll have 100 different databases 
with 100*100 of different problems!

So, unless you got a powerful server and write caching IO 
subsystem and you want to waste all of it for nothgint, the answer is no, you 
can't have 100 databases in one server.

Go with logon triggers, and row level security. You don't 
even haveto duplicate schemas, your packaged app doesn't even have to 
know, that it's running on same table set with others, and it's really simple to 
set up.As abonus, when granting excempt_access_policy privilege to a 
user, you can run reports over all 100 user's data, but "normal" users don't 
have slightest idea, that there could be any other data in table in addition to 
theirs.

The downside is, that you should add some kind of org_id 
or user_id columns to your tables, on which the row level security will 
work.

Search for fine grained access control in 
docs.

Tanel.

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  From: 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:54 
  AM
  Subject: Re: 100 instances on same server 
  !!!
  
  
  Thanks for the replies so far. Considering the fact that my database is 
  tiny ( just around 3 GB ), How many of them can work on same server? I can 
  just test with 5 instances, with limited hardware. Will the CPUs be able to 
  take load of 100 instances? Is it worth experimenting this? 
  
  I am on 8.1.7.4 and the application is already built. I stand no chance 
  of changing the code. That is why using individual schemas for individual 
  users is not an option. Right now I am just asked if 100 instances can run on 
  same server and I don’t have solid answer. 
  
  Just on side note, canI ask, What is the maximum number of 
  instances anyone has ever worked/heard being installedwith in same 
  server? 
  
  Thanks again.
  
  Dilip.
  
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Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:54 
AM
Subject: Re: What books recommended for 
Data Modeling ?
100 instances woh . If you are in 9i look at 
possibilities like contextor label security . or creating another schema 
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Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:24 PM I have not heard 
installing hundred database instances on same server. Maybe you 
should think creating one instance, and then hundred schemas in 
it. Guang On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Dilip Patel 
wrote:  Hi All,  Need some 
suggestions/Input.   My application database is 
8.1.7, NOARCHIVELOG, WIN200,  total size 4 GB, more of single 
user OLTP client-server application.   Now the 
customer wants to give training on this application to 
hundredtrainees  at a time. For this he wants to install 
hundred database instances onsame  server machine, 
which *each* will be accessed simultaneously from 100different 
 client workstations.   The reasons for 
installing all instances on same machine are  - to avoid 
re-installing databases on 100 workstations after each roundof 
 training.  - No user should see any other user's 
data.   Please suggest if this approach is feasible 
or is it at all possible.Tested this with upto 5 instances, and 
 it seems to work. The customer is willing to upgrade to any 
hardwareneeded for  this setup.   
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Re: SharePlex

2003-08-09 Thread Tanel Poder
I could access oraclestore today and didn't see neither DataGuard nor
Streams in database additions section (where RAC, Data Mining and others
are).

Then did a product search on dataguard, data guard, standby - got no
positive results...

But maybe the sales guys have other story... I've luckily managed not to
deal with licensing issues for past few years now.

Tanel.

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 On 2003.08.09 09:39, Tanel Poder wrote:
  MessageHi!
 
  Mladen, does DG really have additional fee when using EE? I tried to
check
  from oraclestore, but got - instead:

 Tanel, my @#$%! Adelphia Cable connection is down more or less throughout
the
 day today, so I cannot check at the Oracle Store, but I'm reasonably
certain
 that both Data Guard and Oracle Streams are sold separately. As for this
 email, I'm using my local sendmail, which will deliver the message
whenever
 the connection is restored.
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Comparison between Oracle 9i SE SqlServer 2000 SE

2003-08-09 Thread Arif Khan (GWL)
Hello fellow Oraclers,

Has any of you done a comparison study on Oracle 9i SE  Sql Server 2000
SE??? If yes, will it be possible for you to share your findings with me.

In case any of you know of a web link that provides an unbiased comparison
study that too would be wonderful if you could send me the link.

Thanks
Arif
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Re: Record breaking query

2003-08-09 Thread Daniel Fink
WOW! How many googolbytes do you have devoted to your Undo Tablespaces?

 Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
 
 TICK : Fri Aug  8 09:06:03 2003
 SEARCH in kdisti: tsn = 5, objd = 83525, rdba = 33588489
 ORA-01555 caused by SQL statement below (Query Duration=1060347963 sec, SCN: 
 0x0011.05e003c2):
 TICK : Fri Aug  8 09:06:03 2003
 SELECT VOBJID, VNAME, VTEXT, VLEN, VOWNER, VOWNERID, VAUDIT, VCOMMENT, 
 VCNAME, PROPERTY, DEFER, FLAGS, OIDLEN, OIDCLAUSE, TYPEOWNER, TYPENAME, 
 UNDERLEN, UNDERCLAUSE  FROM   SYS.EXU8VEW  WHERE  VOWNERID != :SYS_B_0 
  ORDER  BY VLEVEL, VOWNER, VOBJID
 
 according to this error message this query has been running for close to 33 years. 
 appears to be a export running for 33 years.
 
 I am clusless
 Raj
 
 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
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RE: [stupid] vi question

2003-08-09 Thread Stephen Lee

There's the
:set list
and
:set nolist
commands.

But in your case, I think you got ahold of a MSDOS/Windows text file.

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 Suddenly my vi editor is showing ^M at the end of each line. How do I
 get rid of it?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Saira
 
 
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Help with 9iAS on Linux 8

2003-08-09 Thread H elp_me
Hello List,

Has anyone successfuly installed Oracle 9iASrelease 2 (9.0.2.1) on Linux 8 i.e. SLES8 (Suse Linux Enterprise Server 8)

Can you please provide me with basic (initial) settings for the installation.

Any help in this will be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Nikunj

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