Re: Not able to add DB which is ruuning on the local node

2003-10-20 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Is this database on the same O_H as OEM or a different one ?

Also you may want to review MEtalink articles on How OEM discovers a node
on Metalink...

Babu
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 Hi List:

 I installed Oracle 9i on Windows NT,configured OEM on Windows and could
successfully connect to OEM.

 Discover node works fine for remote machines(adds database,listener,http
server,ect) but not allowing me to add database which isrunning on local
machine.

 Even OEM is not allowing me to add DB using manual configuration.

 What could be wrong? Did anyone come across this
 scenario?

 Any help would be really appreciated.
 TIA
 -Sami




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Re: events number and meaning

2003-03-26 Thread Babu Nagarajan



you can find the list of 
events under $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/mesg/oraus.msg.

babu

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  Subject: FW: events number and 
  meaning
  
  
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  quarta-feira, 26 de Março de 2003 11:17To:Subject: 
  events number and meaning
  
  Hi guys.
  
  Where can i find a list of 
  Oracle Db (8i, 9i and 9iR2) events and menning?
  
  and by the way how can i fire 
  a Stored procedure if a event (ex.: Shutdown or Startup) is 
  ocurring?
  
  Thanks
  
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Re: Large Export Problem ......

2003-03-25 Thread Babu Nagarajan
2) A caveat of using this method:
 Important: Incremental, cumulative, and complete Exports are
 obsolete features that will be phased out in a subsequent release

I think this has already happened with 9i...

I would suggest going to RMAN and taking incremental cold backups and taking

weekly/daily
1. full export w/o data (to get the structure)
2. data export of non-static data using (tablespaces=(list) - a 9i feature
but i think u can install 9i anduse the exp binary against the 8i db you
have. i have not tried it though)

monthly/whatever
1. export of static data (this can be run during the day with consistent=n
to minimize downtime)

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 Babu,

 First, if it were me, I'd put this thing in archive log mode.  If we
 may need to recover between full backups, that is the tried and true
 means.
 But, on to your question.  I'd look at a plan utilizing incremental
 exports.  You start with a 'base' full export (weekly, monthly,
 whichever), and do daily incremental or cumulative exports.  I'm not
 going to offer too much detail here because I've never actually used
 this and because you really should read all of the oracle documentation
 on this before implementing it ...

http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/A87860_01/doc/server.817/a76955/toc.
htm

 Two things I'll point out from that document:
 1) A quote which directly addresses one of your issues...
 You can do incremental, cumulative, and complete exports only
 in full database mode (FULL=Y). 

 2) A caveat of using this method:
 Important: Incremental, cumulative, and complete Exports are
 obsolete features that will be phased out in a subsequent release

 Please let us know how this turns out for you or if additional help is
 needed.
 Thanks,
 Darrell



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 Dear List,

 I have a large unarchived decission support database of size 270gig. We
 do
 take coldbackup of database files every sunday. We also take export
 backup
 to suplement the coldbackup. Export is taking too much time which we
 can't
 afford now. I need to reduce the export time to fit the weekend
 schedule. In
 the last few weeks it is failing as the database is down for
 coldbackups
 while the export is running.

 The database structure is as follows:

 Partitioned tables size: 200gig
   [static partitions(prior years) size 150 gig, and non-static
 partitions(current yr) size 50gig]
 non-partitioned tables: 70gig

 I don't need to export static partitions every week. Once in 3/6months
 is
 OK.  I don't think I can eliminate static partitions in one full
 export
 script/parameter file.  Iam thinking of eliminating the static
 partitions by
 taking export in TABLE mode, which includes only NON-STATIC partitions
 and
 the remaining NON-PARTITION tables. I may have to hardcode the table
 names.

 The database has lots of packages/stored procs which will be stored in
 the
 dictionary I believe.

 My questions are:
 [1] How can I reconstruct a database using this type of export if
 needed?
 [2] How can I simulate full export in this type (Table Mode) of
 export?
 [3] How can I export packages/stored procs and import to new DB if
 necessary?
 [4] Is there any other way to export the full database and eliminate
 the
 static partitions in a single step?
 [5] What is the best way to solve my export problem??

 Any ideas are appreciated.

 Thanks,
 --  Babu

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Re: Passing DB-Link name in a Loop

2003-03-21 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Hemant

I faced the same problem when setting up a centralized monitoring utility
(very much similar to what you are trying to accomplish here, I think)

For the Ora-2020 - either increase the distributed_transactions parameter or
use dbms_sql instead of execute immediate where you can explicitly close the
connection by dbms_sql.close(cursor)

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 Thanks Tim !
 That works !

 now I just have to resolve the ORA-02020: too many database links in use
error !

 Thanks again.
 Hemant

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  Hemant
 
  In case nobody has yet replied I believe your error is that you
  cannot use a
  bind variable in an execute immediate for the db link name as you
  are trying
  to do with this statement:
 
exec_string := 'select  sum(bytes)/1048576 from
  dba_data_files@:b1';
 
  Changing it to this might work (I've not checked it myself so no
  guarantees)
 
exec_string := 'select  sum(bytes)/1048576 from
  dba_data_files@'||remote_db;
  execute immediate exec_string into db_size;
 
  T¬
 
 
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  Guys,
  help me here.
  This SQL [below] returns the error :
  connecting to AM3C01
  declare
  *
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-01729: database link name expected
  ORA-06512: at line 16
 
 
  [AM3C01] is the first db_link fetched.
 
  tti 'Database Sizes (excluding TEMPFILEs) ' center
 
  spool DB_Sizes
 
  set serveroutput on size 5;
 
  declare
 cursor c1 is select db_link from user_db_links;
 
 remote_DB varchar2(128);
 db_size number;
 exec_string  varchar2(255);
 
  begin
 open c1;
 loop
   fetch  c1 into remote_DB;
   exit when c1%NOTFOUND;
dbms_output.put_line('connecting to '||remote_DB);
  -- select  sum(bytes)/1048576 into db_size from
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exec_string := 'select  sum(bytes)/1048576 from
  dba_data_files@:b1';
  execute immediate exec_string into db_size using remote_DB;
   dbms_output.put_line('DB :  '||remote_DB||':'||db_size);
 end loop;
 close c1;
   commit;
  end;
  /
 
  spool off
 
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Re: Force to use a tablespace

2003-03-19 Thread Babu Nagarajan
create table table_name column_list tablespace tablespace_name;

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 Hallo,
 
 anyone who knows how to force a table to use  a special tablespace?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle

2003-03-14 Thread Babu Nagarajan
we recently moved from t64 to sun and had io related perf issues w/o quick
io. once the veritas db version (which which quick io comes) was installed,
the performance was back on par with t64...

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 Is anyone using Veritas Quick I/O for Oracle? We are purchasing some new
 Solaris systems with fiber channel and Veritas File System, and the
Veritas
 salesperson is claiming up to 400 times faster. I would like to know if
 anyone else has discovered this miracle and what benefits you are seeing.
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Re: File Restoration/Recovery

2003-03-14 Thread Babu Nagarajan
you are right and the developer is not. cold backups taken with the db open
are worthless. you cannot use them to open it back to a consistent state

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 All...

 A developer working on a Solaris 2.6 server running Oracle 7.3.4 desires
 a nightly backup (by simply copying them to a backup directory) of the
 datafiles of an active instance.  I explain that it will be a waste of
 tape because the files will be corrupt and useless.  He counters, As
 long as these files are there, irrespective of their state, oracle [sic]
 provides the tools to restore the skeleton database based on these
 files.

 Will this be the case?  I understand that there will [most likely] be
 some loss of data, but will Oracle fix itself to a point where it's
 useful again?  TIA

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Re: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread babu . nagarajan

Checkout Oracle Lite


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Hi gurus,

Is there any Oracle tools available to use it in Handheld Computers.(like
PDA or IPAQ)

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Re: FW: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread babu . nagarajan

did u try the inventory logs ?



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Hi,

I need it to check from O/S level. not from database
level.

can somebody give any hints.

Thanks and Regards,
Srinivas



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 From sql : select * from product_component_version;
 It can either be shown when logging into sqlplus
 (check the headers).

 Kind Regards,


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 OS: Solaris
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 Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
 patchset level the oracle home is ?

 when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
 whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
 other.

 How to know exactly at which version the
 $ORACLE_HOME
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Re: How to improve queries remotely

2003-03-05 Thread babu . nagarajan

Limit the data you get across the network...

Take the query that gets sent across the db link (u can get it from the
explain plan or oem sql analyze) and runit on the remote db and check its
access path


Thanks a lot...

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Re: Statistics on SYS?

2003-02-28 Thread babu . nagarajan

I think you are not supposed to collect statistics on sys tables till 9i...


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What's the current recommendation for gathering statistics on system schema
objects like SYS, and OUTLN? Are they still saying not to do it? I am on
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Performance issues on Sun - solved

2003-02-28 Thread babu . nagarajan
Thanks to Cary, Jared, Ferenc whose inputs helped a lot in solving the
problem.

Ferenc's document did the trick... Once we converted the files to use Qio,
the performance was much much better...

Thanks a lot...

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RE: performance issues on sun

2003-02-26 Thread babu . nagarajan

My bad.

I should also have posted the 10046 trace. I did a 10046 trace and also a
STATSPACK report. Of the total time, more than 50% of the time is spent
waiting on DIRECT PATH WRITE and around 40% of the time it waits on
DIRECT PATH READ. This is what prompted me to do a truss and see what it
is doing..

From one of the Veritas whitepapers - I found this


Quick I/O allows databases to access regular files on a VxFS file system as
raw character devices,
improving throughput for Oracle databases. Unlike raw devices, Quick I/O
files can still be
managed as regular UNIX files.

There are three requirements to use Quick I/O:

1. Quick I/O driver (VRTSqio) must be loaded before a regular file can be
accessed through
the Quick I/O interface.

2. Files must be preallocated on a VxFS file system.
The file must be preallocated because the file cannot be extended through
writes via its Quick
I/O interface. This preallocation can be done using the qiomkfile command.
This
command ensures that the file is created as a single large extent, or as a
chain of direct
extents. Using direct extents is inherently faster than using indirect
extents.

3. The file must be accessed via its Quick I/O name extension
(::cdev:vxfs:).
In a VxFS file system, a file can be accessed using two types of interface:
regular file and
device file. The device file interface allows a regular file to be accessed
as a raw character
device. This is achieved by using the Quick I/O naming extension of
::cdev:vxfs:
while accessing a regular file.

For example, a file named system.dbf can be accessed as a raw character
device when
the name system.dbf::cdev:vxfs: is used for database access.

Converting Oracle Database Files on VERITAS File System to use Quick/IO

The scripts getdbfiles.sh and mkqio.sh are provided to easily change Oracle
database
files to use Quick I/O. The database files must be on VxFS file systems
before they can be
converted. The getdbfiles.sh script is a shell script that can be run by
the Oracle DBA
(with appropriate user ID) while the database instance is up and running.
This script extracts the
filenames from the system tables of the database and stores the filenames
in a file called
mkqio.dat.

Alternatively, you can manually create the mkqio.dat file containing the
Oracle database
filenames to convert for use with Quick I/O.

The mkqio.sh script processes a list of filenames in the file mkqio.dat and
converts them
to use Quick I/O. This conversion process should be performed while the
database is closed. The
mkqio.sh script must also be run by the Oracle user of the database
instance to avoid any
permission problems.


I think Quick IO is needed on VxFS to perform KAIO calls. Have anyone done
this before?

Any input is greatly appreciated.

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I wish now that I hadn't deleted what I composed this morning... It was
this:

People probably get sick of seeing me say the same thing over and over
and over... You have some interesting information from the truss that
you've done. But you can't tell how long 

Re: trace (get) sql script

2003-02-26 Thread babu . nagarajan

Run STATSPACK at Level 5 (default). It will capture most of the offending
SQL Statements


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Dear All,
 Here we have about 14 Oracle devlopers and some times they run
a
sript which down grade the database performance. I nicely asked for a
script
that a developer has run for testing but sometimes they won't give away it
so easily. So I would like to know that is it possible to get the script
the
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 I believe that in each site, there is a developer who not
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Re: OEM - Automation of Start of Collection for Performance Reports

2003-02-26 Thread babu . nagarajan

I have seen some folks record the performance data and then play it back in
OEM. I think it is there in the performance manager add in. Is that what
you want?

How different you expect this to be from STATSPACK?


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How can Start of Collection of Performance Reports be automated in OEM 9.2
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There Exist about 100 such Performance Reports .
Manually starting Collection of these individually takes too much effort 
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Re: performance issues on sun

2003-02-26 Thread babu . nagarajan

Ferenc

Thanks for the document. I am working with the SAs to try to implement it.
Will update the results once complete..

Thanks a lot...

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Agree with Jared. However, if you have determined that the synchronous IO
and all that is slowing you down, and you want to proceed to direct IO, and
Qio is what you want, I would suggest that you get Veritas to help you. It
will take about 1 - 2 hours to set up for a 100 GB DB. I have a document
outlining all the steps I took to do this (as root), I will forward to you
from my other email). You will have to drop and recreate your TEMP
tablespace as outlined in the doc.

Cheers :

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 The failed KAIO calls normally happen very quickly and
 have little impact on your system.  I did run into some buggy
 Hitachi/Solaris/Vxfs configuration once that took a very long
 time to fail the KAIO calls.

 You could always just set disk_asynch_io=false in init.ora.

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 My bad.

 I should also have posted the 10046 trace. I did a 10046 trace and also a
 STATSPACK report. Of the total time, more than 50% of the time is spent
 waiting on DIRECT PATH WRITE and around 40% of the time it waits on
 DIRECT PATH READ. This is what prompted me to do a truss and see what
it
 is doing..

 From one of the Veritas whitepapers - I found this


 Quick I/O allows databases to access regular files on a VxFS file system
 as
 raw character devices,
 improving throughput for Oracle databases. Unlike raw devices, Quick I/O
 files can still be
 managed as regular UNIX files.

 There are three requirements to use Quick I/O:

 1. Quick I/O driver (VRTSqio) must be loaded before a regular file can be
 accessed through
 the Quick I/O interface.

 2. Files must be preallocated on a VxFS file system.
 The file must be preallocated because the file cannot be extended through
 writes via its Quick
 I/O interface. This preallocation can be done using the qiomkfile
command.
 This
 command ensures that the file is created as a single large extent, or as
a
 chain of direct
 extents. Using direct extents is inherently faster than using indirect
 extents.

 3. The file must be accessed via its Quick I/O name extension
 (::cdev:vxfs:).
 In a VxFS file system, a file can be accessed using two types of
 interface:
 regular file and
 device file. The device file interface allows a regular file to be
 accessed
 as a raw character
 device. This is achieved by using the Quick I/O naming extension of
 ::cdev:vxfs:
 while accessing a regular file.

 For example, a file named system.dbf can be accessed as a raw character
 device when
 the name 

Re: Partitioning

2003-02-26 Thread babu . nagarajan

what do you mean by storage size? if you mean the initial, next and so on -
yes you can.

if you are talking about how big it should be - i dont think you can do
it...


Babu



   
  
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If you have a table partitioned, can you specify the storage size of each
partition in that tables

I looked at dba_tab_partitions and dba_segments views.
Although the show me storage information, I am unable to create a table
where I can specify the storage size for each partition.

Am I doing something wrong  Or you cannot specify a storage size for
partitions.

Please help..


Thanks

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performance issues on sun

2003-02-25 Thread babu . nagarajan
All

We are attempting to move some applications off Compaq T64 into Sun Solaris
8 and running into performance issues.

I am trying to rebuild an index which is taking more than 3 1/2 hours while
it used to take  20 min on T64.

I find most of the waits on DIRECT PATH READS and DIRECT PATH WRITES. The
index tablespace and the temporary tablespace are on separate mountpoints
which reside on separate disks.

I am doing a truss on the session and see that its doing the following

kaio(AIOWAIT, 0x)   Err#22 EINVAL
pread(364, \b02\0\0\v\099E1 f h ECB.., 1048576, 0x26784000) = 1048576
kaio(AIOWAIT, 0x)   Err#22 EINVAL
lwp_cond_wait(0x7CED7F70, 0x7CED7F80, 0x) = 0
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41007 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10401C000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410\n f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104028000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410\r f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104034000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41010 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10404) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41013 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10404C000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41016 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104058000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41019 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104064000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC4101C f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10407) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC4101F f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10407C000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410  f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104088000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 % f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104094000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 ( f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040A) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 + f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040AC000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 . f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040B8000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 1 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040C4000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 4 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040D) = 49152
fdsync(408, O_RDONLY|O_SYNC)= 0
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 7 f h SDE.., 49152, 0x1040DC000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 : f h SDE.., 49152, 0x1040E8000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 = f h SDE.., 49152, 0x1040F4000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 @ f h SDE.., 49152, 0x10410) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 C f h SDE.., 49152, 0x10410C000) = 49152
lwp_cond_wait(0x7CF0DF70, 0x7CF0DF80, 0x) = 0
lwp_cond_signal(0x7CF0DF70) = 0
pread(364, \b02\0\0\v\09A ! f h ECB.., 16384, 0x26884000) = 16384

I think it is trying to do a KAIO call and failing. Then it attempts a
synchronous PWRITE call.

But our SAs are not able to help us to confirm this. Have any of you seen
this issue?

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated. I'll gladly provide you with addl
info if you need.


Thanks in advance

Babu

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RE: performance issues on sun

2003-02-25 Thread babu . nagarajan

   - Where is the tablespace of the table? Shared disk with temp or index
tablespace?

Its on a different mountpoint (and disk) from the index or the temp
tablespaces

   - Check your SORT_AREA_SIZE on both systems.

Its 1 Mb. I have done the tests with as much as 250M but same results

   - Do some basic disk I/O tests. On both the Compaq and Solaris, move a
large file from one drive to another, just to see what time it takes. If
the
Solaris system is significantly slower, discuss this with your system
administrators.

If I do a simple cp, I am not able to see any big performance difference


Thanks a lot...

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Babu - I would recommend checking:
   - Where is the tablespace of the table? Shared disk with temp or index
tablespace?
   - Check your SORT_AREA_SIZE on both systems.
   - Do some basic disk I/O tests. On both the Compaq and Solaris, move a
large file from one drive to another, just to see what time it takes. If
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Solaris system is significantly slower, discuss this with your system
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All

We are attempting to move some applications off Compaq T64 into Sun Solaris
8 and running into performance issues.

I am trying to rebuild an index which is taking more than 3 1/2 hours while
it used to take  20 min on T64.

I find most of the waits on DIRECT PATH READS and DIRECT PATH WRITES. The
index tablespace and the temporary tablespace are on separate mountpoints
which reside on separate disks.

I am doing a truss on the session and see that its doing the following

kaio(AIOWAIT, 0x)   Err#22 EINVAL
pread(364, \b02\0\0\v\099E1 f h ECB.., 1048576, 0x26784000) = 1048576
kaio(AIOWAIT, 0x)   Err#22 EINVAL
lwp_cond_wait(0x7CED7F70, 0x7CED7F80, 0x) = 0
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41007 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10401C000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410\n f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104028000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410\r f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104034000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41010 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10404) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41013 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10404C000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41016 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104058000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC41019 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104064000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC4101C f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10407) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC4101F f h SDD.., 49152, 0x10407C000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410  f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104088000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 % f h SDD.., 49152, 0x104094000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 ( f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040A) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 + f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040AC000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 . f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040B8000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 1 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040C4000) = 49152
pwrite(408, 0602\0\0\nC410 4 f h SDD.., 49152, 0x1040D) = 

RE: performance issues on sun

2003-02-25 Thread babu . nagarajan

I did this and its taking the same amount of time. The difference this time
is that it does not do the KAIO call. But the time has not improved. Its
still doing pwrite calls.

TIA

Babu



   
 
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Babu,

 I think it is trying to do a KAIO call and failing. Then it attempts a
 synchronous PWRITE call.

 But our SAs are not able to help us to confirm this. Have any
 of you seen
 this issue?

I think you have hit the nail on the head. By default, the Oracle port on
Solaris sets 'disk_async_io' to TRUE. Set this to FALSE by introducing such
an entry in init.ora. Let us know if tihis solves your issue...

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Re: DBMS_STATS

2003-02-25 Thread babu . nagarajan

I think since DBMS_STATS also gathers histograms its taking more time

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 I have never had good luck with DBMS_STATS.  It seems that the old analyze
 runs much faster.

 Runs in 45 seconds:
 analyze table log_trans partition (log_trans_20030104) estimate statistics
 sample 5 percent;

 Takes over 2 hours:
 execute dbms_stats.gather_table_stats(ownname = 'LDGADMIN', -
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Re: File Table Overflow on Oracle DB Server

2003-02-24 Thread babu . nagarajan

Here is Kirti's reply to it (long time back in June). I think it was to you
that time also...

Babu

Vivek,
You are right, this is an OS related issue, but a DBA must be aware of why
it happens ;)

Error 23 means 'File Table Overflow' and it is generated when the system
wide limit for the number of simultaneously open files is exceeded. It is
controlled by a kernel parameter 'nfile'. which defaults to a value arrived
at by a formula that uses 'maxusers' (and a couple of other) kernel
parameters. You can check the values set for 'maxusers' and 'nfile' on
these
servers, and get your SA to increase those on the server where you had a
problem starting the database.

Use '/usr/sbin/kmtune -q ' command to check currently set value
for 'nfile' and 'maxusers'.

Read more about 'nfile' at
http://docs.hp.com/hpux/onlinedocs/os/KCparam.Nfile.html.

HTH,

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RE: direct path read waits

2003-02-20 Thread babu . nagarajan

John

All the tablespaces are on different disks - Sorry I should have mentioned
this in the original post itself...


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Your answer was buried in the question itself. If the TEMP tablespace had
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contend with Tablespace C on the same 'disk' then such a result is
expected.

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 All

 We are doing some performance testing while moving from one server to
 another. I was trying to time some index rebuilds and noticed
 something
 that I cant explain.

 I am rebuilding an index on a 1 million row table.  Lets say its on
 tablespace A and when I rebuild it to tablespace B it does in
 33 seconds. I
 put it back on A and then rebuild it on tablespace C it takes 1 min 40
 seconds. The only change here is the target tablespace.

 When I set 10046 level 12 and counted time waited (ela column)

 From A - B (33 seconds)

  sum of elapsed in DIRECT PATH READ = 394 ( i think this is cs)

 From A - C (1 min 40 sec)

  sum of elapsed in DIRECT PATH READ = 6251

 The P1 of all of these waits point to the same file (#4 part of TEMP
 tablespace)

 Why should the change in the target tablespace affect the
 time taken to
 read from the TEMP tablespace?

 TIA

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RE: direct path read waits

2003-02-20 Thread babu . nagarajan

We actually had lengthy discussions with our SAs and convinced them that we
need different mountpoints on different disks. We have our SA's guarantee
that no physical disk is used by the two mountpoints...

Will try to get a sar -d output from them..

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Babu,
You:
 All the tablespaces are on different disks - Sorry I should
 have mentioned
 this in the original post itself...

Me:
 Your answer was buried in the question itself. If the TEMP
 tablespace had to contend with Tablespace C on the same 'disk' then such
a
result is
 expected.

Note that I enclosed the 'disk' above within quotes. Different filesystems
and mount points does not necessarily mean much in these days where a
single
storage array may be shared among multiple servers. As long as you are not
using JBODs, i.e. you are on a SAN/NAS, there is no physical guarantee that
the disks are where they purport to be. Can your SA verify that these
'disks' are actually different? A 'sar -d' during that period may reveal
some interesting results.

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RE: direct path read waits

2003-02-20 Thread babu . nagarajan

Yes.. I did it multiple times... With same results though :-(

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Did you run each scenario more than once to make sure it is not an anomaly?

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All

We are doing some performance testing while moving from one server to
another. I was trying to time some index rebuilds and noticed something
that I cant explain.

I am rebuilding an index on a 1 million row table.  Lets say its on
tablespace A and when I rebuild it to tablespace B it does in 33 seconds. I
put it back on A and then rebuild it on tablespace C it takes 1 min 40
seconds. The only change here is the target tablespace.

When I set 10046 level 12 and counted time waited (ela column)

From A - B (33 seconds)

 sum of elapsed in DIRECT PATH READ = 394 ( i think this is cs)

From A - C (1 min 40 sec)

 sum of elapsed in DIRECT PATH READ = 6251

The P1 of all of these waits point to the same file (#4 part of TEMP
tablespace)

Why should the change in the target tablespace affect the time taken to
read from the TEMP tablespace?

TIA

Babu

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max block size on sun solaris

2003-02-13 Thread babu . nagarajan
Hi

Is anyone running ORacle on Sun solaris with db_block_size  16K? We are
getting an error while creating a 32K block size database on Sun and Oracle
says 16K is the max on Sun solaris..

Thanks a lot...

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Re: max block size on sun solaris

2003-02-13 Thread babu . nagarajan

I forgot to mention that the Oracle version is 8.1.7.4

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Is anyone running ORacle on Sun solaris with db_block_size  16K? We are
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HyperRoll Experience (http://www.hyperroll.com)

2003-02-03 Thread babu . nagarajan
All

Have any of you worked with this product that is supposed to improve the
performance of a RDBMS or a OLAP database...  Damagement heard about this
product form somewhere and wants us to investigate...

Any feedback is appreciated..

TIA

Babu

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Re: SQLplus question unusual behavior

2003-01-20 Thread babu . nagarajan

Just a thought - is facility a table or is it some synonym/view pointing
somewhere else..


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I am trying to update a small table from a remote table with sqlplus
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It seems to indicate that it has inserted 233 row into my local table -
however that doesn't really happen.
Am I suffering from a severe lack of caffine or is this really odd?

SQL select count(*) from facility;

  COUNT(*)
--
 0

SQL insert into facility (select * from facility@dev);

233 rows created.

SQL select count(*) from facility;

  COUNT(*)
--
 0

SQL commit;

Commit complete.

SQL select count(*) from facility;

  COUNT(*)
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Re: Database tracking

2003-01-15 Thread babu . nagarajan


A more comprehensive solution would be statspack.

A simpler solution would be to get the sum of wait time  (not counting the
idle ones) . it could provide you with some measure of database
performance... You need to arrive at a baseline wait time as being normal
for your database and any deviation from that could mean some change in
performance...

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All, I would like to track the performance of my production databases by
running the same SQL statement against each database every 5 minutes or so
and recording the results.  For example:
sql set timing on;
sql select count(*) from dba_tables;

That was I would know if they are getting faster or slower over time.  As
anyone already done this?  Would there be a good SQL statement to use?

Thanks,
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Re: email out of oracle

2003-01-07 Thread babu . nagarajan

$ oerr ora 29540
29540, 0, class %s does not exist
// *Cause: Java method execution failed to find a class with the indicated
name.
// *Action: Correct the name or add the missing Java class.

Looks like you are missing some Java Class... Do you actually get the email
it sends?

Also if you get the SQLERRM you might get the name of the class

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Hi there

Trying to email out from Oracle.

Utl_smtp is installed, executing procedure currently as a DBA. This sun
Machine does send email notifications out via the crontab to me so I know I
can send email via the exchange smtp server.

Problem, Email packages execute, if I do a print I see code
SQL print

NP
--
-29540

Package executed with following command:

var np number;
exec send_mail('[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'testmsg', :np);

Below is the code of the send_mail package, can anyone see the problem or
know what this error code means.

Thx George


System

Oracle 8.1.6.3 EE 32 Bit
Solaris 2.6

--
-- Sending email out of Oracle using a stored procedure.
--
Create or replace PROCEDURE
  send_mail (senderIN VARCHAR2,
 recipient IN VARCHAR2,
 message   IN VARCHAR2,
 nStatus   OUT NUMBER)
IS
mailhostVARCHAR2(30) := '90.1.1.100';
mail_conn  utl_smtp.connection;

BEGIN
nStatus := 0;
mail_conn := utl_smtp.open_connection(mailhost, 25);
utl_smtp.helo(mail_conn, mailhost);
utl_smtp.mail(mail_conn, sender);
utl_smtp.rcpt(mail_conn, recipient);

utl_smtp.data(mail_conn, message);
utl_smtp.quit(mail_conn);
EXCEPTION
WHEN OTHERS THEN
nStatus := SQLCODE;
END send_mail;
/

George

George Leonard
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You Are Committed to Educate Yourself to the Total Risk In Any Activity!
Once Informed  Totally Aware of the Risk, Every Fool Has the Right to Kill
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I read it and love it. The only thing I was wondering about is the fact,
that he uses tcl/tk, which I found most people don't use anymore. Nice
surprise.
I wasn't quite sure wether oraora was looking for books that gives more of
a
general overview of books that delve into the depth of unix internals.
Anyway, here is my favorite on Unix internals (hence, the name of the book
;):

UNIX Internals: The New Frontiers by Uresh Vahalia

Eventhough it was published in 1995, it gives you a very good understanding
about how things really work and why they work the way they do.

Regards,
Stefan

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Re: Cant install statspack !

2003-01-07 Thread babu . nagarajan

I remember seing a script on Steve Adam's site that will delete the views
created so that STATSPACK can install correctly

Babu


   
 
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Bob:


I have a slightly different version.  My spcreate.sql involkes 3 scripts:
@@spcusr,
@@spctab,@@spcpkg.  The problem that I had was that spcusr was creating
some x_ views that already existed in the database (perhaps from Steve
Adams' script).  When the spcusr script encounters the errors, it quits and
does not proceed with the remainder of the creation.


I had to modify the script and take out all the references to the x_ views
(or delete them, I don't remember which) in order to get a clean install.


You should have the equivalent of an spdrop.  If so you can run it and
start over, but this will not remove the x_ views and synonyms.


(Also make sure you're not using svrmgrl.  statspack does not like svrmgrl)


Good luck!


Barb






 Bob Metelsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All

 I seem to be missing something very basic as no matter what I do
 I cant get statspack to install

 This is 8.16 on WIN2kpro

 I downloaded the newest version of stataspack and placed it into
 %oracle_home%\rdbms\admin

 C:\Oracle\Ora81\RDBMS\ADMINdir stats*
 02/08/2000 07:36p 1,805 statsauto.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 891 statscauto.sql
 12/30/1999 02:13p 1,832 statscbps.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 882 statscre.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 28,088 statsctab.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 27,879 statsctaba.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 5,098 statscusr.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 4,384 statscusra.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 829 statsdrp.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 3,344 statsdtab.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 1,136 statsdusr.sql
 02/08/2000 07:34p 28,516 statspack.doc
 02/08/2000 07:36p 51,400 statspack.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 48,205 statsrep.sql
 01/19/2000 06:53p 52,610 sta! tsrep80.sql
 02/08/2000 07:36p 579 statsuexp.par
 16 File(s) 257,478 bytes

 I log onto the db sqlplusw internal/pw@instance

 SQL@%oracle_home%\rdbms\admin\statscre.sql
 the script seems to create the user.. but then blinks out. Apparently
 its soupposed to generate .lis files but there are no such files

 I tried to spool a log file but It only captures the first line... as
 the script blinks out

 if I try to

 SQL execute statspack.snap

 I get
 PLS-00201: identifier 'STATSPACK.SNAP' must be declared

 I try to prefix it with perfstat. or sys. but no joy

 what can I be doing wrong??

 Ive tried to hack the scripts(so they would stay up) but there are so
 many variables that it dosnt seem practical

 Thanks
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Re: Cant install statspack !

2003-01-07 Thread babu . nagarajan

I think the SQL_PATH is not pointing to $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin - so its
unable to find the scripts...

Open a DOS window, cd to the folder and try running using sqlplus and not
sqlplusw.. Or edit the SQL_PATH in yr registry.. Or edit the STATSCRE.SQL
to include the full path

Babu


   
 
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Hello All

 I seem to be missing something very basic as no matter what I
do
I cant get statspack to install

This is 8.16 on WIN2kpro

I downloaded the newest version of stataspack and placed it into
%oracle_home%\rdbms\admin

C:\Oracle\Ora81\RDBMS\ADMINdir stats*
02/08/2000  07:36p   1,805 statsauto.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p 891 statscauto.sql
12/30/1999  02:13p   1,832 statscbps.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p 882 statscre.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p  28,088 statsctab.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p  27,879 statsctaba.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p   5,098 statscusr.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p   4,384 statscusra.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p 829 statsdrp.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p   3,344 statsdtab.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p   1,136 statsdusr.sql
02/08/2000  07:34p  28,516 statspack.doc
02/08/2000  07:36p  51,400 statspack.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p  48,205 statsrep.sql
01/19/2000  06:53p  52,610 statsrep80.sql
02/08/2000  07:36p 579 statsuexp.par
  16 File(s)257,478 bytes

I log onto the db sqlplusw internal/pw@instance

SQL@%oracle_home%\rdbms\admin\statscre.sql
the script seems to create the user.. but then blinks out. Apparently
its soupposed to generate .lis files but there are no such files

I tried to spool a log file but It only captures the first line... as
the script blinks out

if I try to

SQL execute statspack.snap

I get
PLS-00201: identifier 'STATSPACK.SNAP' must be declared

I try to prefix it with perfstat. or sys. but no joy

what can I be doing wrong??

Ive tried to hack the scripts(so they would stay up) but there are so
many variables that it dosnt seem practical

Thanks
bob
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RE: Prevent FTS

2003-01-06 Thread babu . nagarajan

Read Tim Gorman's The Search For Intelligent Life in the Cost-Based
Optimizer. I think its on his website - http://www.evdbt.com/papers.htm

Babu



   
 
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What is the significance of parameter  OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ ?
When I tried to change the value the explain plan has changed .

alter session set OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ = 10

table access for Z was by index rowid

alter session set OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ = 100

table access for Z was full

How can I make effective use of this parameter .
If i dont want to use this in alter session,can this value be
set elsewhere.
what is the difference between setting this parameter to some other value
than
default
compared to using hints in sql stmt.
I've tried some hints like rowid,index but it did not work for the join
stmt
as it still used the FTS of Z before I tried to change the above parameter
to
10.







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Hi All,
  I've  3 tables   table x,y,z
pk of x is (col_1,col_2),pk of y is (col_1,col_2,col_4,col_5),pk of z is
(col_1,col_2)

where clause is :

where x.col_1 = y.col_1
and x.col_2 = y.col_2
and x.col_1 = z.col_1
and x.col_2 = z.col_2
and y.col_1 = z.col_1
and y.col_2 = z.col_2
and  x.col_3 in ('val1','val2','val3')
and.
..

Explain plan shows that there is a FTS of table z .
what can be the reason for this and how to prevent this.


Thanks
Manoj

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Re: Full table scan error

2003-01-03 Thread Babu Nagarajan
You have a outer join in yr history table. Also you have a IN condition for
the history table for which the CBO might think a FTS might be cheaper..

Babu
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 Hi List,

 I have the below query whose explain plan is showing that it is doing full
 table scan on Historie table:

 select F1.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN

AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,F1.OID,F1.VERKAUFSBEZEICHNUNG,B1.FAHRZEUGARTTEXT,B1.FAH

RZEUGHERSTELLERTEXT,B1.FAHRZEUGTYPTEXT,B1.FIN,B1.VERKAUFSBEZEICHNUNG,H1.AUFT
 RAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.DATUMSTR,H1.OID,H1.PRODUKT,H1.VORGANGSNUMMER,'Stamm'
 SOURCE
 from  ZPAB.FAHRZEUG F1 , ZPAB.FZGBRIEF B1 , ZPAB.HISTORIE H1
 where  F1.FZGBRIEF  =  B1.OID  AND  F1.OID  =  H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+)  AND
 ((H1.produkt, TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-MM-DD'))  IN  (select
 ZPAB.HISTORIE.produkt, TO_DATE(MAX(ZPAB.historie.DATUMSTR),'-mm-dd')
 from ZPAB.historie, ZPAB.FAHRZEUG
 WHERE ZPAB.FAHRZEUG.OID = ZPAB.historie.MYTECHOBJEKT AND ZPAB.FAHRZEUG.OID
=
 F1.OID AND ZPAB.historie.PRODUKT

IN('HU','AU','SP','HUPlus','GGVS','P193','P21','UVVFahrzeuganbau','Ersatzpla
 kette','SOL')
 group by ZPAB.historie.produkt)  OR  H1.PRODUKT  IN

('StandardGutachten','SchadenGutachten','BewertungZustandspruefung','MagBewe

rtungZustandspruefung','Transportschadenbericht','Reparaturpruefung','Rechnu

ngspruefungsbericht','Reparaturpruefungsbericht','FzgSchadengutachten','Hage

lschadenbericht','Massenschadenbericht','Kalkulationsbericht','Schadenberich

t','Bericht','DekraSiegel','NfzSchadenGutachten','HypoWBWGutachten','MagGuta
 chten','MagBewertung','Bewertung')  OR  F1.OID  NOT IN  (SELECT
 ZPAB.FAHRZEUG.OID
 FROM ZPAB.FAHRZEUG,ZPAB.HISTORIE
 WHERE ZPAB.FAHRZEUG.OID = ZPAB.historie.MYTECHOBJEKT))  AND
 (F1.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN LIKE 'DD%')AND rownum =10

 and for HISTORIE, it is showing TABLE ACCESS FULL.

 I have created indexes on produkt and mytechobjekt columns of historie
 table.  Still I am getting full table scan errors.  I am sending herewith
 the snapshot of the explain plan as seen in spotlight.

 Could you please advise me as to how do I eradicate the full table access
 error on Historie table?  Any help in this regard is very much
appreciated.

 Thanks and Regards,

 Ranganath

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Re: Centralized StatsPack Repository

2003-01-03 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Title: RE: Centralized StatsPack Repository



Raj

I did this sometime back 
but later on somehow this went on to the backburner.. (I also had half-developed 
XL based interface to the central statspack data)

In the central repository 
create the set of tables that statspack uses to store data under user "central". 
Create individual schema's with different instance names (that you want 
monitored). Under each of the schemas

1) create a db link with a 
dba user to the database that this schema monitors
2) create private synonyms 
for all of the v$, dba* views that statspack queries usingdb links created 
above (create synonym v$session for sys.v$session@target_db)
3) create private synonyms 
for all of the statspack tables to point to the "central" schema

Now when you schedule 
statspack.snap it will read from the target db and insert data into the 
"central" user...


Babu

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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:08 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Centralized StatsPack 
  Repository
  
  Hmmm... FAGC ?? 
  Jared, I am stumped ... I can't put these 2  2 together. 
  I was planning on a new instance called "dbmon". One schema for each 
  production database instance. Statspack will be installed for each schema and 
  other monitoring scripts that we use internally.
  I am thinking of best ways to propogate datasets from 
  individual databases to this central db. 
  Could you explain more about (your idea on) how FAGC would be 
  useful?? 
  Thanks in advance Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni 
   MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any 
  opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. 
  QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion 
  is an art! 
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  Repository Importance: High 
  Have you considered FGAC? ( fine grained access control 
  ) 
  I haven't tried it, but it seems like a good candidate for 
  centralizing stats pack data with as little code as 
  possible. 
  Jared 


Re: ORA-1410 Silliness

2003-01-02 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Title: ORA-1410 Silliness



Lisa

I dont recollect exactly 
but I think I have seen this happen when you start getting too close to the 
max_open_cursor limit... something like Oracle cant open a cursor as it is at 
the max limit and a fetch call might be issued..

Checkyr 
max_open_cursor limit and also check the v$open_cursor when the error 
happens...


Babu

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  Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:14 
  AM
  Subject: RE: ORA-1410 Silliness
  
  Hi 
  Waleed, 
  
  No. This is the name of the package. 
  
  Thanks
  Lisa
  
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ORACLE-LSubject: RE: ORA-1410 Silliness
I see "ELVIS.CLEANUP_VEGAS_PK" in the error message. Is it the 
primary key index for a table?

If yes, then 
it may need to be rebuilt.

Regards,

waleed

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  Hello all, 
  8.1.7, Windows 2000 SP2 
  Here's the error: * ERROR at line 1: 
  ORA-01001: invalid cursor ORA-06512: at "ELVIS.CLEANUP_VEGAS_PK", line 1970 
  ORA-01410: invalid ROWID ORA-06512: at line 1 
  Has anyone seen this error before? I run 
  into this error periodically during data loads. I have done the 
  following to search for the root of the problem:
  1. No code references ROWID. 
  Deletes are never applied to this table. 2. No inline views in any of the code. 3. Ran dbv on all datafiles while database was 
  down. No problems identified. 4. Ran analyze table table name validate structure 
  cascade on all recent partitions. No rows found in INVALID_ROWS 
  table. 
  5. Was able to export the entire table 
  without any problem. 
  I can't easily drop the indexes and recreate 
  them. This is a very large table - ~25GB, 38 million rows. I 
  also can't easily export/drop/recreate/import.
  Usually when this happens I can re-fire the 
  load and it will complete, no problem. It's a big annoyance and it 
  seems like every time I take a day off it happens. 
  Any ideas, suggestions, or thoughts are 
  appreciated. Thanks everyone. 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Dorkbase Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 
  Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, 
  FL, USA 33063 



Re: Oracle 8i (8.1.7) for Windows XP Home Edition

2002-12-16 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Title: RE: Oracle 8i (8.1.7) for Windows XP Home Edition



i was able to install 8.1.5 
sometime back.. but it made my xp terribly slow.. some jdk issues, i 
guess..

babu

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  Subject: RE: Oracle 8i (8.1.7) for 
  Windows XP Home Edition
  
  Didn't try 8.1.7, but 9i went in just fine. 
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 Quick question, has anyone managed to sucessfully install 
   8.1.7 on Windows XP  
  Home Edition. I have read on metalink that this is not  officially supported by  Oracle, but 
  wanted to know if anyone has managed to install  
  it for test  purposes on their home/work 
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Re: Shared Pool Size

2002-12-13 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Statspack is installed under the username PERFSTAT. You should be able to
tell if such user exists by quering the dba_users table.

There are two good articles on the Oracle Magazine on how to install and use
Statspack. Search the technet.oracle.com site

Babu
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 Dennis,

 The Toad provides Waits...
 but there's a lot of events like buffer busy waits,control file
parallel
 write,control file sequential read,.
 Can you point me to the correct direction or suggest some informations
about
 how to analyse those events?

 For STATSPACK, how to tell whether it's installed?
 and which scripts should be run in order to use it?

 Wellyes, i'm working for a taiwanese company,
 they insist to include Chinese name in signature.
 sorry for the inconvenience cause.
 and thanks for the help.

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  Shuan - Bumping up the memory for shared pool and database buffers may
 well
  turn out to be the answer, but before you just jump in and make the
 changes
  and hope for the best, why not dig into the root causes of the slowness
  first? Specifically, collect information on the top wait events. I'm not
  familiar with Toad, but perhaps it can provide these. My personal
favorite
  is STATSPACK, which comes with Oracle, but you'll have to install it. Or
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  can just directly query the V$ views. If the wait statistics confirm the
  need to increase these buffers, once you make the change you can measure
  these statistics again and confirm that you are making a positive
  improvement.
  Also, does your signature have some sort of foreign language font?
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Re: Function-based Index

2002-12-11 Thread Babu Nagarajan
why would you want to create function based index on a column that you are
not using in the where clause.

for your sql statement a index on cnfr_no would work great...

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 I have the following statement that I would like to create a
function-based
 index for:

 SELECT MIN(tran_dt)
 FROM ach_tran
 WHERE cnfr_no = :b1


 I'd like the index to include columns cnfr_no and tran_dt (in that order).
 The examples I've seen are
 just single-column indexes.   Is it possible to have this  additional
 column in a function-based index that
 is not involved in the actual function?   If yes, what would the index
 creation statement look like?

 This is version 9.2.0.1 on Sun Solaris 2.6.


 Thanks in advance for any assistance.

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Re: Common PL/SQL package to truncate tables

2002-12-11 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Title: Common PL/SQL package to truncate tables



Of the top of my head, 
there is a way where you can run a procedure under the invoker's rights rather 
than the procedure owner's rights. if u create it that way, you need not bother 
checking if the user who is calling the procedure has the rights to truncate the 
table - oracle will do it for you

babu

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  Subject: Common PL/SQL package to 
  truncate tables
  
  We have a DSS database containing numerous 
  datamarts, each stored in it's own schema. Each datamart schema has a corresponding OPS$ batch account, which does 
  the ETL work. DML privs 
  on all tables within a schema are granted to a {schema}_LOAD_ROLE, 
  which in turn is granted to the 
  pertinent batch account. 
  Previously, each schema has it's own copy 
  of a common utilty package, which provided among other things, a routine to truncate a specified 
  table. The batch account would call this routine to perform all truncates. As the number 
  of datamarts grew it started becoming a pain to maintain and compile the same package in multiple 
  schemas. 
  So, the idea is to use a 
  database-wide common utility package which would be compiled under a DBA ID, with execute granted to the OPS$ 
  batch accounts. This package's truncate routine would verify a truncate request by checking 
  the calling USER against DBA_ROLE_PRIVS to ensure it had the requisite {schema}_LOAD_ROLE for the 
  {schema}.table_name passed as a 
  parameter. 
  Any security holes or caveats with this 
  idea? Or maybe a more elegant way to accomplish this? 
  Thanks. 
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limiting temp space per user

2002-12-09 Thread Babu Nagarajan
All

Is it possible to limit the temp space used per user - either by using
profiles or some other method? I tried using profiles but it would not allow
me to set a limit on space usage.

TIA

Babu
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Re: limiting temp space per user

2002-12-09 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Thats what I have now. But these adhoc reports keep running out of temp
space and and ends up paging me :-)

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 The way we do it is that create two temporary tablespaces. Use one for the
 production applicationa and other for adhoc users so that adhoc users do
not
 mess up the production.

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  SQL alter user scott quota 10M on temp;
  User altered.
 
  HTH, Krishna
 
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   Is it possible to limit the temp space used per user - either by using
   profiles or some other method? I tried using profiles but it would not
  allow
   me to set a limit on space usage.
  
   TIA
  
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Re: Utl_file and OPENVMS

2002-10-02 Thread Babu Nagarajan
);

 Utl_File.Put
(L_Par_File_Hand,'Log='||P_Load_Log_File_Dir||'/'||P_Current_Table_Name||to_
char(P_Run_Date,'mmdd')||'.LOG');




 Utl_File.New_Line(L_Par_File_Hand);

 Utl_File.Put
(L_Par_File_Hand,'Bad='||P_Load_Bad_File_Dir||'/'||P_Current_Table_Name||to_
char(P_Run_Date,'mmdd')||'.BAD');




 Utl_File.New_Line(L_Par_File_Hand);

 Utl_File.Put
(L_Par_File_Hand,'Discard='||P_Load_Discard_File_Dir||'/'||P_Current_Table_N
ame||to_char(P_Run_Date,'mmdd')||'.DSC');

as


 Utl_File.New_Line(L_Par_File_Hand);

 Utl_File.Put
(L_Par_File_Hand,'Data='||P_Load_Data_File_Dir||'/'||P_Current_Table_Name||'
/'||


P_Current_Table_Name||to_char(P_Run_Date,'mmdd')||'.DAT');

 -- Close the file after printing.

 Utl_File.Fclose(L_Par_File_Hand);

  Exception

  When Others then

 Dbms_Output.Put_line(to_char(sqlcode)||'-'||SQLERRM);

  End;


Thanks, Any assistance would be appreciated. I am just getting in to
the OPENVMS OS.
Ron
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Re: Strange performance problem

2002-09-30 Thread Babu Nagarajan

I have seen something like this in the past and it was because there were
two tables - named the same in two different schemas (public synonym,
private synonym and all that mess)..

Do you know whether this could be the same case as yours?

Also check to see if the explain plan differs when u run it under different
schemas.

Babu
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 I got a call from a customer earlier.  He said that he was trying to
 run a query and it was taking way too long.  He ran the same query last
 Friday and it came back in seconds.  I looked at it in OEM and noticed
 that two of the tables were being accessed by full table scans.  These
 tables have 22,000+ and 24,000+ rows each.  I took the sql from OEM and
 ran it in a svrmgrl session (connected internal), and it came back in
 seconds.  His still hadn't come back.
 To further complicate things, I connected as the owner of the tables
 (the same user he was using) and ran the query again.  This time, I
 ended up killing it after 10 minutes.  I'm confused as to what can cause
 such a difference in performance from sys to another user.  The server
 did crash sometime over the weekend.  He said that it was fine before
 the crash.  I ran a dbverify on all of the data files and came up with
 nothing.

 The vitals are:

 Oracle 8.1.6.0.0
 Digital Unix V4.0F (Rev. 1229)

 Unfortunately, upgrading Oracle isn't an option because the
 processor is too old.  Oracle won't support it on any versions higher
 than 8.1.6.  A patchset may be possible, though.

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Re: Strange performance problem

2002-09-30 Thread Babu Nagarajan

I have seen something like this in the past and it was because there were
two tables - named the same in two different schemas (public synonym,
private synonym and all that mess)..

Do you know whether this could be the same case as yours?

Also check to see if the explain plan differs when u run it under different
schemas.

Babu
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 I got a call from a customer earlier.  He said that he was trying to
 run a query and it was taking way too long.  He ran the same query last
 Friday and it came back in seconds.  I looked at it in OEM and noticed
 that two of the tables were being accessed by full table scans.  These
 tables have 22,000+ and 24,000+ rows each.  I took the sql from OEM and
 ran it in a svrmgrl session (connected internal), and it came back in
 seconds.  His still hadn't come back.
 To further complicate things, I connected as the owner of the tables
 (the same user he was using) and ran the query again.  This time, I
 ended up killing it after 10 minutes.  I'm confused as to what can cause
 such a difference in performance from sys to another user.  The server
 did crash sometime over the weekend.  He said that it was fine before
 the crash.  I ran a dbverify on all of the data files and came up with
 nothing.

 The vitals are:

 Oracle 8.1.6.0.0
 Digital Unix V4.0F (Rev. 1229)

 Unfortunately, upgrading Oracle isn't an option because the
 processor is too old.  Oracle won't support it on any versions higher
 than 8.1.6.  A patchset may be possible, though.

 Thank you.

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Re: Strange performance problem

2002-09-30 Thread Babu Nagarajan

I have seen something like this in the past and it was because there were
two tables - named the same in two different schemas (public synonym,
private synonym and all that mess)..

Do you know whether this could be the same case as yours?

Also check to see if the explain plan differs when u run it under different
schemas.

Babu
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 I got a call from a customer earlier.  He said that he was trying to
 run a query and it was taking way too long.  He ran the same query last
 Friday and it came back in seconds.  I looked at it in OEM and noticed
 that two of the tables were being accessed by full table scans.  These
 tables have 22,000+ and 24,000+ rows each.  I took the sql from OEM and
 ran it in a svrmgrl session (connected internal), and it came back in
 seconds.  His still hadn't come back.
 To further complicate things, I connected as the owner of the tables
 (the same user he was using) and ran the query again.  This time, I
 ended up killing it after 10 minutes.  I'm confused as to what can cause
 such a difference in performance from sys to another user.  The server
 did crash sometime over the weekend.  He said that it was fine before
 the crash.  I ran a dbverify on all of the data files and came up with
 nothing.

 The vitals are:

 Oracle 8.1.6.0.0
 Digital Unix V4.0F (Rev. 1229)

 Unfortunately, upgrading Oracle isn't an option because the
 processor is too old.  Oracle won't support it on any versions higher
 than 8.1.6.  A patchset may be possible, though.

 Thank you.

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Re: To_Char Problem

2002-08-14 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


Why would you want to do that - convert two dates into a char and then
compare them ? This is not a problem but it is how char comparisions work.
They are compared char by char to see which one is greater on the ASCII
chart.

See this : SQL  select '1' from dual where '3'  '10';

'
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Babu





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Hi All,

I am using the to_char function in the following query.  But it treats the
date '31/12/2001' as greater than '01/01/2002'.
Is there any solution to fix this problem?

 select distinct(a.default_type_id), a.new_val
 from amend_default_value a, amend_default_value b
 where a.effective_from = sysdate and
   a.effective_to= sysdate and
   a.group_id = '942'   and
   a.default_type_id = b.default_type_id and
   to_char(a.updated_date,'dd/mm/ hh:mi:ss') =
   ( select max(to_char(updated_date,'dd/mm/ hh:mi:ss'))
   from amend_default_value c
   where c.effective_from = sysdate and
   c.effective_to= sysdate and
   c.group_id = '942' and
   c.default_type_id = b.default_type_id);

Thanks in advance.

regards,
Karthik

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Re: SAN

2002-08-13 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


Tim, Jared and Kirti

Jared, Kirti : Thanks a lot for your input. and yes, I read the Sane SAN
paper.

Tim : Many thanks to you for pointing out some of the big misassumptions
I had made.  I have corrected most of the stuff you had mentioned except
for these

.* I'm less clear on whether SANs themselves perform read-ahead and
the
 conditions under which they do so.  I'm pretty sure that they are smarter
 about it than what you describe;  usually read-ahead mechanisms are
 triggered by detected patterns of usage, not algorithms as simple as
 described...

Will the smarter algorithm look inside the contents of a file before
reading it? If it does not, then how will it be able to intelligently
read ahead what data Oracle wants from inside its datafile? If it does, how
does it decipher the Oracle's way of storage?

 * your example about read-ahead conflicts makes some invalid
 assumptions, namely about space being allocated in blocks not extents
(when
 does *that* ever happen?) and about read-ahead being set to 3 blocks
 (again, when does *that* ever happen?).

It does not happen. However I am going to be talking to a bunch of
non-Oracle folks and management so I want to keep it as simple as possible.

 Altogether, empirical evidence (i.e. many successful SAN implementations
 under Oracle over several years) does not lend credence to your basic
 assertion that SAN and Oracle don't go well together.  It is a fact
that
 they do...

I am not trying to make a statement SAN and Oracle dont go well together.
I am trying to convince my management that buying a SAN does not mean that
we never need to worry about IO any more. Even a SAN needs to be
configured. Currently they are under the impression that there are no IO
problems but my database IO waits are 50% of the total response time. All
my index, table data are scattered all over the disks -  many on the same
disk and the answer I get is No, we are not tasking the SAN at all. There
are no IO issues


Thanks a lot

Babu





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Babu,

Is it possible that you are confusing the term SAN with the term NAS?
As I read through your email, I couldn't help thinking that you discussing
network-attached storage rather than storage-area networks.  If so,
some
of my comments below might change slightly, but not much...

---

Most of your major assumptions are correct, but there are important
errors...

* DBWR only does RW, never RR or SR.  Mostly Oracle server processes do
RR and SR, but ARCH also does SR, as do backup processes (whatever they
are);  everyone always forgets to add backup processes to the mix...

* SW is characteristic of LGWR and ARCH, but also of processes
performing sorting (i.e. direct writes wait-event).  I think you'll agree
that databases generating a lot of redo (and archived redo) and performing
lots of sorting are not necessarily misconfigured.  The amount of redo
generated is really a characteristic of the application itself, not the
database configuration.  High amounts of sorting can possibly be tuned, but
that too is more a characteristic of the application and users usage of it
than database configuration...

* I'm not sure what your conclusions regarding RAID5 chunks or RAID0
stripes are, but I suspect they are incorrect.  Oracle DB_BLOCK_SIZE should
not come close to matching RAID5 chunksize of RAID0 stripesize;  even
(DB_BLOCK_SIZE * DB_FILE_MULTIBLOCK_READ_COUNT), which denotes the
largest
I/O requests (for full-table scans) generated by Oracle should be much
smaller than RAID5 chunksize or RAID0 stripesize, for most databases.  So,
whatever conclusions you are drawing from that point about sizes is likely
incorrect...

* I'm less clear on whether SANs themselves perform read-ahead and the
conditions under which they do so.  I'm pretty sure that they are smarter
about it than what you describe;  usually read-ahead mechanisms are
triggered by detected patterns of usage, not algorithms as simple as
described...

Anyway, based on your mistaken assumptions, your list of conflicts between
SAN and Oracle are quite mistaken as well...

* the difference between the stripe width and DB_BLOCK_SIZE is not
excess I/O at the SAN level;  the disk drives do not necessary read the
entire stripe or chunk;  they merely *store* data in those extents on
the device.  They don't have to read/write in those increments...

* your example about read-ahead conflicts makes some invalid
assumptions, namely about space being allocated in blocks not extents (when
does *that* ever happen?) and about read-ahead being set to 3 blocks
(again, when does *that* ever happen?).  You do have some of the basic
ideas
right, but please remember that your assumptions may be overly simplistic
or
just unlikely.  Moreover, remember that some of your basic 

Re: SAN

2002-08-13 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


But inside a Oracle datafile a table may not lie in contigious blocks. so I
you are doing a full table scan 2 extents can lie next to each other than
then the remaining 2 can sit at the end of the datafile. Will the
non-Oracle process be able to decipher this and do a read ahead of those
two extents? Probably not...

Babu




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You wrote:

 Will the smarter algorithm look inside the contents of a file before
 reading it? If it does not, then how will it be able to intelligently
 read ahead what data Oracle wants from inside its datafile? If it does,
how
 does it decipher the Oracle's way of storage?


How about using a variation of the algorithm ADABAS (database) is using for
sequential user reads:
1) Return the block requested.
2) If the next block is requested in a short period read the next 5 blocks
to the
controller cache.
3) If those are read in order and request come for the next block read each
time 10 blocks.

This is just from the top of my head but will assist greatly for full
table scan of big tables. Also remember that in Oracle before 9i blocks
used in FTS are put at the end of lru so are great candidates to be
overwritten
and you will read them again and again.

Yechiel Adar
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 Tim, Jared and Kirti

 Jared, Kirti : Thanks a lot for your input. and yes, I read the Sane SAN
 paper.

 Tim : Many thanks to you for pointing out some of the big
misassumptions
 I had made.  I have corrected most of the stuff you had mentioned except
 for these

 .* I'm less clear on whether SANs themselves perform read-ahead and
 the
  conditions under which they do so.  I'm pretty sure that they are
smarter
  about it than what you describe;  usually read-ahead mechanisms are
  triggered by detected patterns of usage, not algorithms as simple as
  described...

 Will the smarter algorithm look inside the contents of a file before
 reading it? If it does not, then how will it be able to intelligently
 read ahead what data Oracle wants from inside its datafile? If it does,
how
 does it decipher the Oracle's way of storage?

  * your example about read-ahead conflicts makes some invalid
  assumptions, namely about space being allocated in blocks not extents
 (when
  does *that* ever happen?) and about read-ahead being set to 3 blocks
  (again, when does *that* ever happen?).

 It does not happen. However I am going to be talking to a bunch of
 non-Oracle folks and management so I want to keep it as simple as
possible.

  Altogether, empirical evidence (i.e. many successful SAN
implementations
  under Oracle over several years) does not lend credence to your basic
  assertion that SAN and Oracle don't go well together.  It is a fact
 that
  they do...

 I am not trying to make a statement SAN and Oracle dont go well
together.
 I am trying to convince my management that buying a SAN does not mean
that
 we never need to worry about IO any more. Even a SAN needs to be
 configured. Currently they are under the impression that there are no IO
 problems but my database IO waits are 50% of the total response time. All
 my index, table data are scattered all over the disks -  many on the same
 disk and the answer I get is No, we are not tasking the SAN at all.
There
 are no IO issues


 Thanks a lot

 Babu





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 Babu,

 Is it possible that you are confusing the term SAN with the term NAS?
 As I read through your email, I couldn't help thinking that you
discussing
 network-attached storage rather than storage-area networks.  If so,
 some
 of my comments below might change slightly, but not much...

 ---

 Most of your major assumptions are correct, but there are important
 errors...

 * DBWR only does RW, never RR or SR.  Mostly Oracle server processes
do
 RR and SR, but ARCH also does SR, as do backup processes (whatever they
 are);  everyone always forgets to add backup processes to the mix...

 * SW is characteristic of LGWR and ARCH, but also of processes
 performing sorting (i.e. direct writes wait-event).  I think you'll
agree
 that databases generating a lot of redo (and archived redo) and
performing
 lots of sorting are not necessarily misconfigured.  The amount of redo
 generated is really a characteristic of the application itself, not the
 database configuration.  High amounts of sorting can possibly be tuned,
but
 that too is more a characteristic of the application and users usage of
it
 than database configuration...

 * I'm not sure what your 

Re: set sql*trace VB/Crystal

2002-08-12 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


Try to find out the sid and serial# of her session.

From a dba user use exec dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(sid,
serial#,true);

Babu




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List:
We have a crystal report performing badly. (No! ,you say.  You're shocked!)
The report has a visual basic front end.

Our developer wants to set sql trace in the VB code.  It's not working.
When I tkprof her trace file, all that's in there is the ALTER SESSION SET
SQL_TRACE TRUE command.

Is there some trick here?  I don't know VB at all, so I don't know how to
advise her.  She looked on the Microsoft site, but it was not helpful.

Thanks for any help!

Barb

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SAN

2002-08-12 Thread Babu . Nagarajan

All

I have a meeting tomorrow where I am going to point out why SAN and Oracle
does not go very well together. Here are my thoughts. Can you pick holes in
this argument, modify it or suggest any changes

TIA

Babu

SAN and Oracle ? Conflicting IO behavior
* There are four types of IO in Oracle
1.Random Reads (RR) ? DBWR - Using indexes
2.Sequential Reads (SR) ? DBWR - Full table scans
3.Random Writes (RW) ? DBWR ? Writing dirty blocks
4.Sequential Writes (SW) ? LGWR, Arch ? Writing redo logs and Redo
Archival + Control files

* Bulk of any Oracle database's IO is done in RR, SR and RW. If SW is
very high it denotes configuration problems.
* SAN (or for that matter any RAID device) is configured for writing or
reading large chunks at a time.  The stripe size on most SANs and RAID
devices are 256K or more. Compare this to the Oracle block size of 4k/8k in
most databases (going upto 32K in datawarehouses)
* SANs do *Read Ahead*. If one block is requested, they read more than
one blocks *while at the disk* hoping that the same process will request
the other blocks some time soon.

Here is the conflict.
* When ever Oracle does a RR, SR or RW it writes randomly and not
sequentially.  It will read/write a particular block at a time in case of
RR and RW and 'x' blocks (where x = dbfile_multi_block_read_count) in case
of SR. Therefore only during SR will Oracle use the entire stripe width. In
all other cases, The difference in the stripe width and db_block_size will
be excess IO.
* Why *read ahead* will cause a conflict :
* The internal structure of a datafile could be as follows. The file
consists of 10 blocks. These are occupied by 3 tables.  The blocks shown
below are numbered using table_name.block_number
|-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-|
| | | | | | | | |  
|   | |
| 1.1 | 1.2 | 2.1 | 3.1 | 3.2 | 3.3 | 2.2 | 1.3 | 2.3  
|   | 3.4 |
| | | | | | | | |  
|   | |
|-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-|



* The first block on the datafile is the first block of table 1, second
block is the second block of table 1, the third block is the first block of
table 2 and so on.. (For simplicity sake, I am assuming Oracle will
allocate space in blocks and not in extents)
* Now assume Oracle requests the first block of table 1.  Assume read
ahead is set to three blocks (three blocks will be read instead of 2
blocks). In this case the SAN will read 2.1, 3.1,3.2.
* The blocks 3.1 and 3.2 will be entirely useless as Oracle is never
going to read it. SAN cannot tell that the block 2.2 that Oracle might
possible request next is the 7th block in the datafile and so it can never
*read ahead* intelligently.

Why the buffer of SAN has very little impact w.r.t Oracle read performance?
* Oracle has its own buffering for all IO types
* DBWR reads and writes uses the DB Buffer Cache
* LGWR uses the Log buffer
* Db buffer Cache is managed by a LRU Algorithm (Touchcount from 9I).
* Bulk of the IO done by Oracle is Logical IO (LIO) and not Physical IO
(PIO).
* Assume the buffer cache hit ratio is 80%. This means that only 20% of
the IO calls are PIO. Only 20% of the calls ever hit the SAN's cache. Since
this 20% is probably the least requested/never requested data (going by
Oracle's LRU algorithm) , its quite likely that the SAN's buffers don't
have this either.
* Given that Oracle is going to cache even this 20% in its buffers, the
next PIO call is going to be for something totally different ? which is not
there in the SAN's buffer.
* Couple this with the read-ahead (discussed earlier), Our SAN's buffer
is now populated with lots of data that Oracle might never use a PIO to
retrieve.
* Thus the SAN's buffer can never really provide to Oracle the data it
reads most ? Its already there in Oracle.
To be fair, SAN's huge buffers will come as a boon to small databases ?
where the entire database can be cached in the SAN's buffers.


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RE: Which table to check whether my SQL_TRACE is on for the user

2002-08-10 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


It should be run from svrmgr

Babu




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   user


Hi KG,

Is ORADEBUG PEEK an utility that only works in 9I ? Could I use it in the
user account .ie. not sys account ?
I am using Version Version 8.0.6 and it does not work for me. Please
advise.
Thanks.

SQL ORADEBUG peek
unknown command beginning ORADEBUG p... - rest of line ignored.

Regds,
New Bee
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Raj:

You are right. But you can find the with PGA dump
or ORADEBUG PEEK..

KG


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Dear 'New Bee',

If I remember correctly, I read an reply by Steve Adams that
this trace flag
is in the PGA (??) so not possible to find.

O Wise Men/Women ... please correct me if I am wrong ...
Raj
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Hi Dave,

Thanks but the command does not work.

In SQLPLUS,
SQL alter SESSION SET SQL_TRACE=TRUE
  2  /
Session altered.
SQL SHOW PARAMETER SQL_TRACE
unknown SHOW option PARAMETER
unknown SHOW option SQL_TRACE

I am using Oracle Database 8.1.6. Any other suggestions ?
Thanks.

Regds,
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RE: Oracle Heterogenous Services

2002-07-31 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


I think I am jumping into this thread a bit late. Take a look at
http://www.unixodbc.com for some good info on ODBC on Unix.

I am not sure where to get Oracle ODC drivers for Unix. Try installing a
Unix client and see if it comes along with it...

Babu




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Mladen,

I have been told that I definitely need the odbc driver installed on my
UNIX
server. How do I get these from OTN, they have the odbc software for
Windows
but not for UNIX. (Not that I can see anyway !!)

Lee


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If it's just a regular ODBC connection, download the driver from OTN,
configure it appropriately and enjoy. No heterogeneous services needed.
Heterogeneous services are needed only if you have more then one protocol
on your network (like LU 6.2, TCP/IP and IPX).

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 John, I have done this from PC to Oracle Database on a UNIX
 server but not
 the other way around. I think it is different and that is
 what I am trying
 to get to the bottom of

 Lee


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 And is it needed?. I am sure I have set up odbc connections
 between Oracle
 8i databases on Unix and Access/Excel and I have never heard of
 Heterogeneous Services before

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 I did a bit of research on Heterogeneous Services, apparently
 it lets you
 create ODBC connections between Oracle on UNIX and Windows apps.

 Can this be true?

 Does it actually work?

 What is the performance like?




 Regards,
 Patrice Boivin
 Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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 Hi,

 Oracle 8.1.7.3
 Tru64 5.1
 MSAccess 2000

 Preparing to be shot down in flames but I have been looking
 through some
 documentation and also some White Papers but for some reason
 I just don't
 get it.

 I need to see Access tables from an Oracle DB. The paper I am
 reading (from
 Metalink) states that I should be able to do this via
 Heterogeneous Services
 and ODBC agent but I cannot see how it all hangs together.

 Has anyone done this and if so could you point me in the
 right direction
 please. I don't need an idiots guide (or maybe I do) but a
 gentle nudge in
 the right direction should suffice.

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Re: Space Contention and LOG_BUFFER size

2002-07-30 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


More than the number of time you are waiting for 'redo log space requests'
its more important to find out how long you are waiting for that. 27 times
out of a million might not be a big deal for you to tune.

having said that, here is a posting by Steve Adams on this topic

Q : Every day our production database has more than 10 redo log space requests. 
Oracle suggested that this number should be near 0.
I resized the log files, and increased the log buffer to 1M. What else can I do?

A :  This idea of increasing the log_buffer to get space requests down to 0 is both 
ineffective and bad for performance.
There is always a risk of space requests at log switches and a few other points when 
redo generation is disabled entirely.
 It does not matter how big your log buffer is then. You will get space request waits 
if you try to generate redo at that time.
Also, a large log buffer is actually much worse for performance than the occasional 
space request,
even if that is a genuine log buffer space wait.  


hth

babu




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I am doing some performance monitoring on an 8.1.7 DB on Windoze.  I ran
the following query;

SQL select name,value
  2  from v$sysstat
  3  where name = 'redo log space requests';

NAME  VALUE
 --
redo log space requests  27


If the number of 'redo log space requests' is much over zero then I should
increase the LOG_BUFFER size in my init.ora, at least that is what I get
from RTFM.  One question I have is that does the size of the LOG_BUFFER
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remember that it shuold be but have not found anything in TFM to verify
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Re: Host System Commands from PL/SQL blocks

2002-07-30 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


Take a look at Doc Id 50868.1 on metalink

Babu




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OK, I checked Google and my own old mail and I know I've seen this here
before, but can't find my notes, so please forgive this same old
question...

I need to execute a system call from within a PL/SQL block.  Specifically,
I am looking at starting out report request demons as part of a post
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Re: order by in subquery workaround

2002-07-12 Thread Babu . Nagarajan


For databases  8i you need to run statsrep80.sql

Babu




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I have in the past seen a download for a backported statspack on I believe
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Maybe still there

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 Solaris 2.6
 Oracle RDBMS v8.0.5.2.1

List:
I'm trying to run a retrofit of statspack on an 8.0.5 database.  (ya, I
know.  upgrading would actually be easier)
The statspack stuff came from an 8.1.7 install I have on the same box.

The spreport.sql report encounters errors in the order by clause.  The
problem is that you can't do an order by on a subquery before version
8.1.something-or-other

I know there's some kind of work around for this.  I had something to do
with a hint.  Even after 3 cups of coffee, I can't remember what it is.

Can anyone help?
Thanks!
Barb

here are the errors:

Shared Pool StatisticsBegin   End
   --  --
 Memory Usage %:   75.99   70.05
% SQL with executions1:   21.95   48.60
  % Memory for SQL w/exec1:   11.28   21.84
   order by time desc, waits desc
   *
ERROR at line 24:
ORA-00907: missing right parenthesis




pmon timer  1,184  1,177 355,304   3001
0.2
  -
  order by (e.buffer_gets - nvl(b.buffer_gets,0)) desc, e.hash_value,
st.piece
  *
ERROR at line 41:
ORA-00907: missing right parenthesis


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oratab file

2002-05-21 Thread Babu Nagarajan



All

On one of the database 
servers we have, the 
oratab file has been changed to include a :parameter after each entry 
and that parameter is used to determine whether the database is supposed to be 
shutdown at a certain time. 

It kind of struck me as a 
odd way to do this... This created problems for me when I was trying to get OEM 
discover this database and I had to remove this parameter to get OEM discover 
the database.

So the question is : Have 
you seen this some where else? Is this (editing of 
oratab)supported?


PS : This is not my 
database. I had to look into it for some other reason and I discovered 
this.

TIA

Babu


list of events

2002-05-14 Thread Babu Nagarajan



All

I know this has been 
mentioned on this list before but I forget... 

Which is the script in 
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin folder thatcontains the list of all 
events?

TIA

Babu


Re: list of events

2002-05-14 Thread Babu Nagarajan

Suzy

Thanks a lot.. .This was the one I was looking for... I thought it was under
admin and was desperately grepping the files there :-)

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 $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/mesg/oraus.msg does list events, for example:

 10046, 0, enable SQL statement timing
 // *Cause:
 // *Action:

 Most events are in the range of 1 to 10999.

 Suzy


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  and it's not under the admin directory in any case the path to the error
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   I know this has been mentioned on this list before but I forget...
 
   Which is the script in $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin folder that
contains the
   list of all events?
 
   TIA
 
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Re: Correcting user sql inside the database

2002-05-02 Thread Babu Nagarajan

Anjo,

Can you tell us more on the sneaky way?

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 Outlines is one way, but there is another sneaky way, but that involves a
 lot of programming depending on what you want to change.
 And it also depends on where the client runs and how it is linked 
 
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  In ADABAS on the mainframe I can activate a user exit that gets the
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Re: Renaming files on Unix via PL/SQL

2002-04-19 Thread Babu Nagarajan

Sorry to get on this thread so late...

To answer Emre's question, we can do it if you have a extproc listener
configured and have a external procedure to do the same.

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 HOST is a SQL*Plus command only.

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  no, there's no way to do that through PL/SQL.
  If have the option of using java you can use the solution given by
  Tom Kyte
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Re: PX Deq: Table Q qref

2002-04-11 Thread Babu Nagarajan

All

I have some more information on this. I turned on event 10046 on this. From
this I was able to note the following...

1. I start the sql script and spool the results

2. It waits for less than a second on process startup and PX Deq: Join
ACK. I think these are waits for starting up the parallel query slaves and
then they acknowledging the startup.

3. Then it starts waiting on PX Deq Credit: need buffer and PX Deq
Credit: send blkd. I think these are when PQ actually returns data to the
QC

4. Then it starts witing on PX Deq: Execute Reply. I see numerous waits on
this. I am not sure on what this wait means.

5.After two hours, it starts waiting on PX Deq: Table Q qref and SQL*Net
message to client. By this time, it has finished writing to the spool file.
I verified this from the unix timestamp. The trace also shows FETCH
#1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=15,dep=0,og=4,tim=57419669

6. After about 3-4 hours later the SQL prompt returns to me. During this
time it has not written to the spool file. So I am not sure what is being
done in this time...

What is it doing during the Step5 desciribed above? Also why does it show
Fetch when I have already gotten the data..

Can any of you pl comment on the above... Am I missing anything or am I
interpreting it wrong...

Thanks a lot

Babu
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 Not entirely sure, but I think this is a query slave
 trying to make, or break a link from another layer
 in the DFO.

 As the query gets to completion, I would expect
 to see the QC gathering results, and the slaves
 either in:
 PX Deq Send Blkd  (i.e. more data to send
 but another slave is currently passing data
 to the QC)
 or
 PX Deq Execution message (roughly, this is
 from memory) which means all its data has
 been transmitted and it is waiting for a message
 from the QC to tell it to die.



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 All

 What does this wait event mean? I have a process that connects to the
 database through ODBC and this process is waiting on this event and
 SQL*Net message from client.

 Often this process waits for an unreasonable amout of time (4
 seconds or more) on SQL*Net MEssage from client and PX Deq: Table Q
 qref before it successfully completes...

 TIA

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PX Deq: Table Q qref

2002-04-10 Thread Babu Nagarajan



All

What does this wait event 
mean? I have a process that connects to the database through ODBC and this 
process is waiting on this event and SQL*Net message from client. 

Often this process waits for 
an unreasonable amout of time (4 seconds or more) on SQL*Net MEssage from 
client and PX Deq: Table Q qref before it successfully completes...

TIA

Babu


Re: PX Deq: Table Q qref

2002-04-10 Thread Babu Nagarajan



Thats what I thought. But 
here is more details on the issue..

I am running a SQL*PLus 
session with a massive query that returns about 2.5g of data, i am spooling the 
data to file - that is something similar to what the essbase application is 
trying to do.

that session spooled the 
data in around 2 hours- so the access paths are fine. after getting the 
data though, my sql session has still not completed. from the size of the spool 
file i can see the data came more then three hours ago. this session is still 
doing something and these waits are increasnig and sql is not returning the SQL 
prompt to me...

trying to find out 
why...

babu

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  Subject: RE: PX Deq: Table Q qref
  
  Looks like you have PQ enabled.
  These waits are considered idle. 
  The 
  PQ slave processes arewaiting for work to do.
  
  - 
  Kirti
  
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ORACLE-LSubject: PX Deq: Table Q qref
All

What does this wait event 
mean? I have a process that connects to the database through ODBC and this 
process is waiting on this event and SQL*Net message from client. 


Often this process waits 
for an unreasonable amout of time (4 seconds or more) on SQL*Net MEssage 
from client and PX Deq: Table Q qref before it successfully 
completes...

TIA

Babu


Re: PX Deq: Table Q qref

2002-04-10 Thread Babu Nagarajan

No. i am running it from the foreground...

babu
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 Babu - Are you running this session in the background? On my system
(Compaq
 Tru64), when I run a SQL*Plus script in the background, I have to put the
 EXIT command as the last command of the script. Otherwise the script just
 sits there and echos the prompt into the spool file until it fills up the
 disk. My system administrator isn't too happy when this occurs, so I try
to
 be careful.
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
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 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:38 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Thats what I thought. But here is more details on the issue..

 I am running a SQL*PLus session with a massive query that returns about
2.5g
 of data, i am spooling the data to file - that is something similar to
what
 the essbase application is trying to do.

 that session spooled the data in around 2 hours - so the access paths are
 fine. after getting the data though, my sql session has still not
completed.
 from the size of the spool file i can see the data came more then three
 hours ago. this session is still doing something and these waits are
 increasnig and sql is not returning the SQL prompt to me...

 trying to find out why...

 babu

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 Looks like you have PQ enabled.
 These waits are considered idle.
 The PQ slave processes are waiting for work to

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Re: Strange problem deleting rows

2002-02-25 Thread Babu Nagarajan

Rick

If you are waiting on rollback, this script (written by Steve Adams) will
help you find out how long the rollback will take.

set serveroutput on
set feedback off
prompt
prompt Looking for transactions that are rolling back ...
prompt

declare
  cursor tx is
select
  s.username,
  t.xidusn,
  t.xidslot,
  t.xidsqn,
  t.used_ublk
from
  sys.v_$transaction  t,
  sys.v_$session  s
where
  t.used_ublk  1 and
  s.saddr = t.ses_addr;
  user_name  varchar2(30);
  xid_usnnumber;
  xid_slot   number;
  xid_sqnnumber;
  used_ublk1 number;
  used_ublk2 number;
begin
  open tx;
  loop
fetch tx into user_name, xid_usn, xid_slot, xid_sqn, used_ublk1;
exit when tx%notfound;
if tx%rowcount = 1
then
  sys.dbms_lock.sleep(10);
end if;
select
  sum(used_ublk)
into
  used_ublk2
from
  sys.v_$transaction
where
  xidusn  = xid_usn and
  xidslot = xid_slot and
  xidsqn  = xid_sqn;
if used_ublk2  used_ublk1
then
  sys.dbms_output.put_line(
user_name ||
'''s transaction ' ||
xid_usn  || '.' ||
xid_slot || '.' ||
xid_sqn  ||
' will finish rolling back at approximately ' ||
to_char(
  sysdate + used_ublk2 / (used_ublk1 - used_ublk2) / 6 / 60 / 24,
  'HH24:MI:SS DD-MON-'
)
  );
end if;
  end loop;
  if user_name is null
  then
sys.dbms_output.put_line('No transactions appear to be rolling back.');
  end if;
end;
/



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 I created a procedure to remove up to 2.4 million records out of a 13+
million record table with bulk binds and forall. Figured that would be the
fastest way. While doing this delete, other processes were accessing the
table, but not the rows that were being deleted. Things went fine.

 Eventually, records that were being deleted were being updated, then the
probelms started. The job that did the big delete was killed in favor of
deleteing the records in smaller batches. However, whenever I try to delete
or update some of the records that were affected, the process hangs, like
it's waiting on a commit or rollback from a previous transaction. I have
bounced the db and this is still occuring.

 Is there a way to check if the blocks are indeed waiting for a commit or
rollback and provide that as needed?

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Re: not using indexes

2002-01-04 Thread Babu Nagarajan

are all your tables/indexes analyzed? if the statistics are not current then
the plans chosen by the CBO can be very bad.

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 Dear All,
 I have been entrusted to tune a web based application. This product is at
development stage. I generated the trace  file and found out the indexes on
the table. So I specified hints in all the queries and tested the
application. There was a remarkable increase in performance. Can any one
tell me why we have to specify the hints in the queries, when the tables are
having index already.

 Platform: WinNT Oracle 8.1.6. Application is developed in JSP and Web
server is iPlanet Enterprise Edition.

 TIA

 Regards
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Re: Shared pool wait for library cache pin

2002-01-03 Thread Babu Nagarajan
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Re: Moving Oracle software

2002-01-03 Thread Babu Nagarajan

i dont think you need a relink all. the path is always taken from your env
variables so it does not need a relink...

may be on some patch levels you might need a relink. try it w/o relinking
and it it works its fine

i have tried it w/o relinking and it works fine...

babu

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 If I copy the oracle software directories from one machine to another,
 should I run   relink allbefore using them?  This is an 8.1.6.3
 implementation
 running under Solaris 2.7.  The directory names are different on the new
box
 (i.e. ORACLE_BASE is not the same), and the O/S patch level is off a
little.

 As a test, I moved the oracle software from one directory to another (on
the
 same
 machine), and the database came up fine.  I ran   relink all  just to
get
 familiar
 with it; it seems to have worked fine, but it produces a lot of messages
and
 it's hard
 to decide whether they can all be ignored or not.

 Thanks


 Kurt Wiegand

 IBM Global Services
 Cable  Wireless Communications
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Re: insert privilege across db link

2002-01-03 Thread Babu Nagarajan

in the db link are you using the same user as the table owner in the remote
db. in your case are you using the user b in your dblink?

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 database is 8.1.7

 how do I grant insert privilege to a user in a different database?

 Note: the database link in place in both database and I can describe
tables in each just fine. In the trigger I already have the insert into
b.address@bschema.  When I try to execute the
 trigger I get insufficient privileges. I have tried the trigger locally
and it works just fine it is when I try to insert a row across the database
link I get insufficient privileges.


 What am I missing/forgetting?

 Thanks

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Re: root.sh wasn't run, help!

2002-01-03 Thread Babu Nagarajan

root.sh will update your oratab file. this is needed by many of the oracle
tools. actually the root user can edit the file thru vi and update it/add
the details to it.

also it initializes some other directories - one of which could be your
orainventory directory (i am making a guess here. pl correct me if i am
worng)

i think you should be okay..

babu

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 Well, I opened a TAR with Oracle but they still haven't gotten back to me
 and I need to know before I leave tonight (as I might not be leaving
 tonight).

 I was installing 8.1.7 on a server prior to doing an upgrade this weekend.
 Over an hour had passed after asking my SA to run root.sh for me and while
 looking something up the cover of my Koch book hit the enter key on my
 workstation.
 Boom, the installation process continued even though root.sh had not been
 run.

 There were no errors on the GUI side but the following errors in the log:


 Error :*** Alert: A configuration script needs to be run as root before
 installa
 tion can proceed. Please leave this window up, go run
 /oracle/product/8.1.7/root
 .sh as root from another window, then come back here and click OK to
 continue. *
 **
 User selected: Yes/OK

 Initializing installer save inventory WCCE
 Unable to read /oracle/oraInventory/Contents/OracleHomesList.ser. Some
 inventory
  information may be lost.
 Unable to read /oracle/oraInventory/Contents/CompsList0.ser. Some
inventory
 info
 rmation may be lost.
 Unable to read /oracle/oraInventory/Contents/PatchesList0.ser. Some
 inventory in
 formation may be lost.
 Unable to read /oracle/oraInventory/Contents/LibsList.ser. Some inventory
 inform
 ation may be lost.


 So my question is:
 Is there any way to recover from this or do I need to uninstall and
 reinstall from the beginning?


 TIA,
 Jay Miller






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Re: insert privilege across db link

2002-01-03 Thread Babu Nagarajan

what is the user in the db link. it it b or some other user?

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 the db link is a public one owned by system.

 User B is only in Bshema.  User A with the trigger is only is Aschema.

 Kathy

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 in the db link are you using the same user as the table owner in the
remote
 db. in your case are you using the user b in your dblink?

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  database is 8.1.7
 
  how do I grant insert privilege to a user in a different database?
 
  Note: the database link in place in both database and I can describe
 tables in each just fine. In the trigger I already have the insert into
 b.address@bschema.  When I try to execute the
  trigger I get insufficient privileges. I have tried the trigger locally
 and it works just fine it is when I try to insert a row across the
database
 link I get insufficient privileges.
 
 
  What am I missing/forgetting?
 
  Thanks
 
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Re: METABLINK on the Fritz?

2001-01-30 Thread Babu Nagarajan
Title: METABLINK on the Fritz?



u are not alone... i've been trying since 
about 3:00 pm est... its crawling..

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  Subject: METABLINK on the Fritz?
  
  Am I the only one having trouble roundabout 4pm EST?