RE: LISTENER ON LINUX

2003-07-14 Thread Ball, Terry
A simple ps -ef|grep lsnr will work.

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Hi
When I try to see listener process on Linux box by ps -ef |grep tns .It 
doen't show but when I tried to see the status thru lsnrctl status 
listener_name .its shows service handler.
How to check whether listener is running or not and how to start that?
thx
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RE: DataGuard Logical Standby Benchmark

2003-07-02 Thread Ball, Terry
I don't have any great answers other than there is good docs on MetaLink.  However, 
one word of warning.  We have been attempting to install DataGuard here and have 
encountered bugs.  We have open bugs for release 9.2.0.1, 9.2.0.2 and 9.2.0.3.  The 
bugs are supposed to be fixed in 9.2.0.4, but then again, they were supposed to have 
been fixed in 9.2.0.3 too.

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We are Looking to do an In-house small Benchmark on DataGuard in it's various modes  
Logical Standby Database

Oracle 9.2
Solaris 8

Any experiences of people , approach methodology , dos don'ts , Good Docs , Links ?

Thanks

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Oracle on Linux on Sparc hardware

2003-06-12 Thread Ball, Terry
One of the SAs here has asked my to find out if Oracle is supported on Linix on Sparc 
hardware.  He is specifically interested in 9i versions. With him standing over my 
shoulder, I looked on Metalink, and could not find anything that indicates this 
specific a combination.  Has anyone tried this or know of anyone who has. And is is 
plausible?


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64-bit upgrade

2003-05-30 Thread Ball, Terry
We currently have a database on Solaris 8.  The database is 8.1.7.4 32-bit.  The 
vendor wants us to upgrade to 9.2 and change to 64-bit.  In reading the documentation 
from Metalink, I find that I have to do the upgrade seperate from the change to 64-bit.

Does anyone have any recommendations for the order of this.  Should I change 8.1.7.4 
to 64-bit and then upgrade to 9.2?  Or should I upgrade to 9.2 and then switch to 
64-bit.

Any insights, horror stories, etc. are appreciated.

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Oracle Jobs not restarting after upgrade

2003-03-28 Thread Ball, Terry
Solaris 5.8  Oracle 8.1.6 upgrade to 9.2

We are testing an upgrade of Oracle from 8.1.6 to 9.2.  There are several oracle jobs 
scheduled on this DB.  Before we started the upgrade, all the jobs were broken 
(execute dbms_job.broken(201, true).  The upgrade to 8.1.7 was done and then the 
migrate/upgrade to 9.2.0 was done.  The jobs were then unbroken execute 
dbms_job.broken(201, false).  But the jobs are not running.  A select shows that the 
jobs are no longer broken, but is also shows that the last date they ran was just 
before the upgrade, with the next_date showing as the time it would have been 
scheduled before the upgrade.  (I.e, if it ran on the first and was a daily job, it's 
next_date would be the second).  We have tried issuing a change for the next date, but 
all that does is show a new next_date, it does not make the jobs run.

Is there a way to make these jobs start running again.  I have looked in the manuals, 
but either I am missing something obvious, or am not looking in the right place.  Any 
help or suggestions are appreciated.  TIA.


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Followup to jobs not running

2003-03-28 Thread Ball, Terry
I changed the job_queue_processes (thanks Barbara), and the jobs all started running, 
but they are not successful from within the job_queue.  They are jobs to gather schema 
stats using dbs_stats and are run as the system user.  I can run the what of the jobs 
within sqlplus successfully, but whether I run the job manually or the job_queue runs 
the job, it is still failing.  The error I see is insuffient privileges, but I have 
tried specifically granting execute on dbms_stats to system.  Is there anything else I 
should look for?

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RE: Followup to jobs not running

2003-03-28 Thread Ball, Terry
Yes.  System is the job owner/creator.

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Privileges should be granted to the user, who created the job.
Was it system?

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 I changed the job_queue_processes (thanks Barbara), and the jobs all
started running, but they are not successful from within the job_queue.
They are jobs to gather schema stats using dbs_stats and are run as the
system user.  I can run the what of the jobs within sqlplus successfully,
but whether I run the job manually or the job_queue runs the job, it is
still failing.  The error I see is insuffient privileges, but I have tried
specifically granting execute on dbms_stats to system.  Is there anything
else I should look for?

 Terry Ball, DBA
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RE: Followup to jobs not running

2003-03-28 Thread Ball, Terry
That did not help.  It takes longer to error out, but it is still failing.  I can set 
the same jobs up for the sys user and they run without problems.  I am not sure why 
the system user is the owner of the jobs and since I am the only DBA here this 
afternoon, I will have to wait until next week to find out if there is a reason for 
not moving them to sys.

If anyone else has any ideas, I am still open to suggestions.

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I changed the job_queue_processes (thanks Barbara), and the jobs all
started running, but they are not successful from within the job_queue.
They are jobs to gather schema stats using dbs_stats and are run as the
system user.  I can run the what of the jobs within sqlplus successfully,
but whether I run the job manually or the job_queue runs the job, it is
still failing.  The error I see is insuffient privileges, but I have tried
specifically granting execute on dbms_stats to system.  Is there anything
else I should look for?

Terry Ball, DBA
Birch Telecom
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FAX:  816-300-1800

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RE: Standby errors

2003-03-17 Thread Ball, Terry
Actually, the command to force the switch is:   
alter system switch logfile;
alter system archive log all;

I did not set the script up, I just inherited it.  THe thinking is, since a hot backup 
and log switch is going to be done anyway, why not ftp the archive logs after the 
switch, but as part of the same process.

Unfortunately, we did not get the upgrade completed this weekend.

The log files were the same size on the production database as on the standby (i.e. 
too small).  We did another hot backup as soon as it was discovered, so that we would 
not be without a recoverable backup, but wanted to know what had caused the archive 
log process to create logs that it couldn't read.


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Why does the copying of archive logs to the standby have anything to
do with a hot backup on the primary?  They seem like unrelated events.

The reason you are getting an incomplete log is that you are using
'alter system switch logfile'.  This command returns before archival,
so your copy can commence and finish before archival is complete.

The correct command to use is 'alter system archive log current'.
This command will not return until the current log is fully archived.
Than your copy can proceed safely.

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Ball, Terry wrote:

 Oracle 8.1.6 on Solaris 5.8.
 
 We have a read-only standby database for one of our production databases.
 Each night, the standby is shutdown and the previous days archive logs from
 production are applied.  Then the database is brought backup in read-only
 mode.  To get the archive logs, a hot backup is done on the production
 database.  As the last step is the hot backup, a log switch is done and then
 the archive logs are ftp'd to the server where the standby is.
 
 After the hot backup completed yesterday, the log switch occurred, and the
 logs sent, but when an attempt was made to apply the archive logs we got an
 error:
 
 ORA-00332: archived log is too small - may be incompletely archived
 ORA-00334: archived log: '/orabackup/archive/TBSPRD/arch1352.arc'
 ORA-332 signalled during: ALTER DATABASE RECOVER
 
 In looking at the archive log, both on the production and standby servers,
 they are the same size - 16k  (the block size for the db is 8k).  The next
 log is 8k in size and then there is another that is 16k before we see any
 that are normal sized.  These would have been the first logs _after_ the hot
 backup the night before.
 
 In the alert log for the production db, it appears the log 1353 was archived
 _before_ 1352.
 
 Has anyone seen this behavior before?  Does anybody have any idea why it
 happened in the first place?  Is there something we can do to make sure it
 never happens again?
 
 
 P.S.  We are upgrading to 9.2 this weekend, if that makes any difference.

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RE: BMC Patrol

2003-03-14 Thread Ball, Terry
We are currently using Patrol.  We just upgraded to version 3.4 so that we
could be 9i compatable.  We experience less than 2% impact at the worst of
times.  Most of the time, it just hums along.

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We are in the process of implementing BMC Patrol for
monitoring our databases.  This is a good thing since
we have hundreds of database across several states. 
Monitoring from a single location with one tool makes
sense.

However, the question has arisen about the actual load
that Patrol will put on the databases.  To read
Patrol's data, there are words such as, 'negligible'
or 'minimal' but they offer no solid metrics.  In the
not too distant past, BMC's Perform and Predict
product literally consumed all of the memory on our
database machines and ground them to a halt.  It took
several weeks before BMC was able to correctly
diagnose the problem and come up with a fix.  Rather
than repeat this experience I would like to hear from
others using Patrol.  

If anyone has any hands on experience with performance
problems resulting from implementing the Patrol KMs
for Oracle, SQL Server or Sybase, I would appreciate
hearing about them.

Thanks,

=
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Standby errors

2003-03-14 Thread Ball, Terry
Oracle 8.1.6 on Solaris 5.8.

We have a read-only standby database for one of our production databases.
Each night, the standby is shutdown and the previous days archive logs from
production are applied.  Then the database is brought backup in read-only
mode.  To get the archive logs, a hot backup is done on the production
database.  As the last step is the hot backup, a log switch is done and then
the archive logs are ftp'd to the server where the standby is.

After the hot backup completed yesterday, the log switch occurred, and the
logs sent, but when an attempt was made to apply the archive logs we got an
error:

ORA-00332: archived log is too small - may be incompletely archived
ORA-00334: archived log: '/orabackup/archive/TBSPRD/arch1352.arc'
ORA-332 signalled during: ALTER DATABASE RECOVER

In looking at the archive log, both on the production and standby servers,
they are the same size - 16k  (the block size for the db is 8k).  The next
log is 8k in size and then there is another that is 16k before we see any
that are normal sized.  These would have been the first logs _after_ the hot
backup the night before.

In the alert log for the production db, it appears the log 1353 was archived
_before_ 1352.

Has anyone seen this behavior before?  Does anybody have any idea why it
happened in the first place?  Is there something we can do to make sure it
never happens again?


P.S.  We are upgrading to 9.2 this weekend, if that makes any difference.


Terry Ball, DBA
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RE: Upgrading from 8.1.5 to 8.1.6

2003-02-24 Thread Ball, Terry
What we do is rename the 8.1.5 directory to indicate it is the old directory
(i.e, 8.1.5_old).  If nothing breaks after a week or two, then the directory
and its contents are removed.

Terry Ball, DBA
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After upgrading oracle database from V8.1.5 to V8.1.6, a new directory is
created to store new version's files and the old directory of old version
8.1.5 is still there.  Is is safe to remove the old directory to save disk
spaces on the disk?  Is there any files being linked to the old version
after upgrading?

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RE: AIX 4.3.3 / 8.1.7 Timed Statistics Tuning Question

2003-02-06 Thread Ball, Terry
I am not currently working in an AIX environment; but when I did (and it was
4.3 with 8.1.6/7) we always set timed_statistics=true with no adverse
effects.

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Good morning everyone - 

Quick poll for those of you on 8.1.7 and AIX 4.3.3:  

Do you have TIMED_STATISTICS = true?  Have you encountered any problems with
it? 

The databases I inherited have this set false all over the place, hence my
tuning efforts are really limited.  However I don't want to change it
without checking around first. 

And a tuning question: 

This environment (peoplesoft) is very very low on memory.  When the app
servers and databases are up there's less than 50MB of memory free.  Adding
hardware is not a choice here. 

The databases have 100MB set for the SGA.  It really looks like not much
thought went into some of the parm settings.  

What I've read about tuning says that you must have a goal in mind.  Well,
afaik nothing is broken, nothing is suffering - then again, no one really
paid much attention to Oracle.  It was up, fine, move on.  Am I on the wrong
path if my goal for tuning is to figure out if I can reduce the size of the
SGA and redo logs without adversely affecting performance? 

Any comments are appreciated.  Thanks everyone 

Lisa Koivu 
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Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway 
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063 
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DataGuard

2003-01-28 Thread Ball, Terry
I am going to be taking over the implementation of DataGuard for 9.2.
Before I do, I'd like to learn as much about it as I can.  Have any books
been written about DataGuard?  Or do any books out there have portions
addressing DataGuard?

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RMAN

2003-01-24 Thread Ball, Terry
I am trying to create an instance on Oracle 8.1.7.4.0 (Solaris 5.8).  I am
trying to run RMAN to back it up, but the RMAN instance is still at
8.1.7.0.0.  I am getting a bunch of errors.  Is it possible to run RMAN in
this scenario, or does the RMAN instance need to be upgraded.  I'd check
Metalink, but it is down for maintenance.

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RE: Faking an ORA-600

2002-12-20 Thread Ball, Terry
Thanks for the replies.  I was able to test sucessfully.

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We are trying to test out monitoring software (on a test database at
8.1.6.3).  We have been able to generate most of the errors that we want to
monitor for, but have been unable to generate an ORA-600.  Does anyone have
a way of doing this?

TIA.


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Faking an ORA-600

2002-12-19 Thread Ball, Terry
We are trying to test out monitoring software (on a test database at
8.1.6.3).  We have been able to generate most of the errors that we want to
monitor for, but have been unable to generate an ORA-600.  Does anyone have
a way of doing this?

TIA.


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RE: Anybody There?

2002-10-22 Thread Ball, Terry
Thanks to all who responded.  I had got caught up in a block for
funnytaf.com.  I quess there is too much similarity between words that both
have an f and a t in them.


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On Monday 21 October 2002 18:38, Ball, Terry wrote:
 I haven't recieved anything from this list since friday evening.  I know
 there usually isn't as much traffic on the weekend, but there is some.
And
 there has been nothing at all this morning either.

 Terry Ball, DBA

Hi,

even some new readers are here.
I use this message to introduce myself as a new reader(and maybe writer) of 
this list.
My name is Joerg Jost, i am from Paderborn in Germany.
I work as a DBA in a company, that produces an ERP - Software.

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Anybody There?

2002-10-21 Thread Ball, Terry
I haven't recieved anything from this list since friday evening.  I know
there usually isn't as much traffic on the weekend, but there is some.  And
there has been nothing at all this morning either.

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RE: CA's AutoSys

2002-10-18 Thread Ball, Terry
Oh, I don't know about that.  At one of the places you used to work, they
_finally_ got it to work, but it did need at least one full-time, dedicated
employee to monitor, maintain and massage it.
 

Terry Ball, DBA 
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Run Screaming in the opposite direction. 

Product was a semi-disaster at two previous 
job sites.  Failed to run jobs when scheduled, 
failed to detected when dependent jobs failed.  
Just plain didn't work well.  

Of course this was when Platinum owned the product, 
who knows, maybe CA improved it. (although I would 
doubt it). 


 
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To All, 

I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to

handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database,
I 
figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using
the 
product.  The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any
input 
you all have would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

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RE: IMPORT sloooowwww

2002-08-30 Thread Ball, Terry

Bingo.  It was the grants, as I had tried w/o indexes/constraints.  There
were some 1800+ grants per table.  With grants set to no, an import which
creates constraints and indexes is flying.

It has been so long since I worked with a product where each user is given
direct grants rather than thru a role, that I forgot that it was possible to
have that many grants on a single table

Thanks again.


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and indexes, too!  do the indexes, constraints, grants, etc after the table
data imports!

-bill

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Creating grants and synonyms on each table?

Cheers
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 In looking at how long it takes, the table imports in a second or
less, but
 it takes 3 minutes + to start the import of the next table.  I'm not
sure
 what it is doing for 3 minutes after the table imports.



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IMPORT sloooowwww

2002-08-29 Thread Ball, Terry

Oracle 8.1.7 on Solaris 8

I am testing and upgrade from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7.  Because the test server is
solaris 8, and I can't find the patches for 7 anymore, I am trying to
upgrade via an export and import.  Besides, the DB is small - less than 2G.
The export was done with compress=n.  There are 200+ tables to be imported.
It is taking 3+ minutes per table for the import, even on tables that have 0
rows.  (Though it does take longer than that for the few tables with over
50K rows).

I have tried:
  1)  Simple import.
  2)  Import with indexes=n
  3)  Import with table and constraints (but not indexes) pre-created and
indexes=n ignore=y
  4)  All of the above with the buffer set to 8M  (This actually slows the
import down, taking 5+ minutes per table).
  5)  Increasing the sort_area_size for the DB to twice as large as it was
and trying the above.

In looking at how long it takes, the table imports in a second or less, but
it takes 3 minutes + to start the import of the next table.  I'm not sure
what it is doing for 3 minutes after the table imports.

Does anyone have any ideas how I can speed this up?  10 hours to import a
2G. DB is extreme and unacceptable.

TIA.

Terry

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RE: IMPORT sloooowwww

2002-08-29 Thread Ball, Terry

I tried this at your suggestion (though it didn't look like it was analyzing
as there were not status on the tables).  This didn't help.  I even tried
turning off archiving and no joy.

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Sounds strange and I can't give you any good reason but I do have one idea.
Have you tried:
analyze=n

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Oracle 8.1.7 on Solaris 8

I am testing and upgrade from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7.  Because the test server is
solaris 8, and I can't find the patches for 7 anymore, I am trying to
upgrade via an export and import.  Besides, the DB is small - less than 2G.
The export was done with compress=n.  There are 200+ tables to be imported.
It is taking 3+ minutes per table for the import, even on tables that have 0
rows.  (Though it does take longer than that for the few tables with over
50K rows).

I have tried:
  1)  Simple import.
  2)  Import with indexes=n
  3)  Import with table and constraints (but not indexes) pre-created and
indexes=n ignore=y
  4)  All of the above with the buffer set to 8M  (This actually slows the
import down, taking 5+ minutes per table).
  5)  Increasing the sort_area_size for the DB to twice as large as it was
and trying the above.

In looking at how long it takes, the table imports in a second or less, but
it takes 3 minutes + to start the import of the next table.  I'm not sure
what it is doing for 3 minutes after the table imports.

Does anyone have any ideas how I can speed this up?  10 hours to import a
2G. DB is extreme and unacceptable.

TIA.

Terry

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RE: Strange experience

2002-08-26 Thread Ball, Terry

I finally got the SAs to turn on and check trace files.  It is indicating
that the file system that contains both the TEMP tablespace and the RBS
tablespace is 99 - 100% busy during the 15 minutes prior to 15 minutes after
the alert log warning.

I am looking at seperating the two tablespaces.  But would it help to make
the logs smaller?  They are currently at 20M each.

Any other options I should look at?

TIA

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Sent on behalf of a colleague...

Are there any messages in /var/adm/messages (or wherever they have syslogd
pointing to)?
What about the volume manager logs?

It may be related in some way to some other bugs:
Check problems: 4501030 and 4341008 in this patch

http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=fpatches%2F108528zone_32=Or
acle%20aiowait

http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/findPatch.pl?patchId=109688rev=01

http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=fsalert%2F23633zone_32=asyn
c%20I%2FOwholewords=on

http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=fsalert%2F28311zone_32=Orac
le%20aiowait



Other things that might be interesting to you/others:
http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=fsrdb%2F45203zone_32=async%
20I%2FOwholewords=on
http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=fsrdb%2F40043zone_32=Oracle
%20I%2FO
http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=fsrdb%2F27049zone_32=Oracle
%20I%2FO
http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=fsrdb%2F27574zone_32=Oracle
%20I%2FO

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Users hadn't even noticed it was happening.  The only reason it was caught
was because we have BMC's Patrol setup to monitor the DB and when this
happens, Patrol alarms.


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I've never encountered this particular problem, but I would be
strongly inclined to turn off async IO and use multiple db writers.

Your statement that the database isn't crashing is highly subjective.

Ask your users if they agree. 

Jraed





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Oracle 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8.

We upgraded from 8.1.6.3 to 8.1.7.4 last month.  Since the upgrade, we 
have
seen the occasional strange problem since. At approx. the same time (but 
not
daily), there will be an entry in the alert.log
 WARNING: aiowait timed out 1 times
At the same time as the warning is entered into the alert log, all of the
sql connections to the database are dropped.  The background processes 
stay
active, but the any other processes die.

According to Metalink, this error should also be followed by a DB crash,
which is _not_ what is happening.  Metalink also says that Async IO should
be turned off and multiple DBWRs should be started.  SInce the database
isn't crashing, there is some reluctance to turn off Async IO.

Has anyone else seen anything like this?  And if so, how have you handled
it?

TIA for any help that can be provided.


Terry Ball, DBA
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RE: SQLLDR question SOLVED

2002-07-26 Thread Ball, Terry

Thanks for all the help.  It turns out there was a problem with the data and
the field seperator was part of the data in one of the fields.


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I am trying to load data via sqlldr (8.1.6.3 on Solaris 8).  A couple of
records keep kicking out.  Because on the commonality between the records
that are kicked out, I have a question.

Does sqlldr treat an  the same way that sqlplus does.  In other words, if
one of the fields in a records has an  embedded in it, will sqlldr reject
the record?  If so, is there a way around this?

TIA

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Rollback segment shrinks

2002-06-05 Thread Ball, Terry

Oracle 8.1.6.3 on Sun Solaris 2.6.

The rollback tablespace filled up last night and the rollback segments
became full.  I added space to the tablespace and tried shrinking the
rollback segments.  They remained full, so I altered them offline and
online.  The extents are increasing, but I still can not get a shrink to
work.  If they don't stop increasing, my tablespace will fill up again and I
can't keep throwing disk at it.  Since this is a production system, bouncing
is not an option.

Any ideas?

TIA

Terry

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SQL*Loader question

2002-06-04 Thread Ball, Terry

Oracle 8.1.6.3 on Sun 2.6.

I have tried reviewing the docs, but I didn't see anything that answered the
question.  Is it possible to limit the number of records being loaded?  We
have a file that has records in the 6 digit range.  I'd like to test the
controlfile, but I don't want to load the whole file.  Is there a way to
tell loader to only load, say the 1st 100 records?

TIA

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RE: Platinum Fastunloader

2002-05-17 Thread Ball, Terry

Where I used to work, they had it will it was still Platinum (before CA took
over).  It was a decent product, but CA did not provide good support and was
always YEARS behind.  When we wanted to upgrade the DB from 7.3.4 to 8.1.6
(in late 2000), we found out that CA did not have a version of FastUnload
certified to work with any version of Oracle 8.  Granted, that was over a
year and a half ago, but I'd bet they don't have a version for 9 ready yet
either.
 
If you go with it, good luck on getting decent support from CA.

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Weird question chaps BUT
 
Anyone out there using this product and if so, is there a way of finding out
if the product is licenced on your system. 
 
FYI we are on Tru64.
 
TIA
 
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RE: comming down the pipe

2002-04-11 Thread Ball, Terry

I alway thought it was pipeline.

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Wasn't that expression originally coming down the pike, as in
turnpike?  :-)

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RE: Do programmers tune SQL?

2002-04-01 Thread Ball, Terry

Names change to protect the innocent/guilty, maybe?

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I wouldn't put it past him. But I don't recognize his name on any of
those questions :)


--- Stephane Faroult [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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RMAN restores

2002-03-25 Thread Ball, Terry

Oracle 8.1.7.0.0 on Solaris 2.8 with NetBackup 3.4

We are trying to use the same RMAN scripts that worked for us in 8.0.5 and
8.1.6.  We can do full - incrememtal 0 - backup and restore.  We can also do
an incremental 1 backup, but when we try to do the restore, it does not
restore the archive logs.  The lists does show the correct archive logs, so
I'm reasonabley certain that the logs are getting backed up, but they do NOT
restore.  I am working with Oracle on this, but because it is just testing
at this point, WWW is not in any hurry to get back to me.

Does any one have any scripts they use for 8.1.7 that work for them?  I'd
like to do a comparison and see if there is something we are missing.

TIA

Terry

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RE: RMAN restores

2002-03-25 Thread Ball, Terry

Here are the errors I am seeing.

  RMAN-03002: failure during compilation of command
  RMAN-03013: command type: restore
  RMAN-03002: failure during compilation of command
  RMAN-03013: command type: IRESTORE
  RMAN-06026: some targets not found - aborting restore
  RMAN-06102: no channel to restore a backup or copy of log thread 1 seq 27
scn 34
  923
  

This lists all the logs EXCEPT the most recent.  No logs are found in the
archive log directory and the database does not recover thru RMAN.  I can
not recover the database manually, because the archive logs can not be
found.  (The backup script removes the archive logs after they have been
(hopefully) backed up.

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Terry,

When you say that Rman does not restore the archive log files, what exactly
are you expecting?

Maybe Rman does not need to restore any archive logs, depending on what
point-in-time you are restoring to.  It could just restore the db files, and
use the current redo logs to catch them up?

Below is a point-in-time restore script that I have used - the syntax has
not changed much since 816.

   run {

   allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE' parms 'BLKSIZE=2097152';

   set until time to_date('2001-06-22:13:25:00','-mm-dd:hh24:mi:ss');

   restore (database);

   recover database;

   release channel t1;
   sql 'alter database open resetlogs';

   }

   reset database;


Hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Oracle 8.1.7.0.0 on Solaris 2.8 with NetBackup 3.4

We are trying to use the same RMAN scripts that worked for us in 8.0.5 and
8.1.6.  We can do full - incrememtal 0 - backup and restore.  We can also do
an incremental 1 backup, but when we try to do the restore, it does not
restore the archive logs.  The lists does show the correct archive logs, so
I'm reasonabley certain that the logs are getting backed up, but they do NOT
restore.  I am working with Oracle on this, but because it is just testing
at this point, WWW is not in any hurry to get back to me.

Does any one have any scripts they use for 8.1.7 that work for them?  I'd
like to do a comparison and see if there is something we are missing.

TIA

Terry

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Sightly OT: Unix scripting

2002-03-21 Thread Ball, Terry

Environment:  Oracle 8.1.6.3 on Solaris 5.8

I am not a Unix Guru by any strech of the imagination, so I can use all the
help I can get.  I am trying to write a shell script to execute sqlldr of a
file whose name includes yesterday's 2 digit year and julian day in the
format: file_yyjjj.csv.  I can get today's date fine by setting a variable
to be DATE=`date '+%y%j'`

But when I try to get DATE -1 it strips the leading 0 (since it is currently
02).  Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can retain the leading 0
and still get yesterday's date?

TIA,

Terry

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RE: Oracle Exports and performance

2002-03-20 Thread Ball, Terry

Just one comment.  Back on O7, some testing was done by one of the DBAs
where I used to work.  He determined that the consistency was within a
schema, not the whole export.  SO if you had cross references between
schemas, you could experience problems on imports. 

I don't know if this functionality continued to 8, 8i or 9i.

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Hi Ron:

Comments inline

HTH
greetings
Diego Cutrone


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 This has probably been discussed before but I would like to know if a full
 database
 export could affect either Oracle or server performance.

Of course it can affect performance, but I think it depends on your hardware
and the system activity in the moment of the export as well


 Also, does a consistent=y export only mean that each table is consistent
or
 is the
 entire database consistent?

It means that the tables exported are consistent to each other.

(The data within a table exported is always consistent independientely of
the consistent option used.)


 Ron Smith
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RE: Oracle Gold Support/ iTARs

2002-03-19 Thread Ball, Terry

My problem is the opposite.  When I log an iTar, my first mode of contact is
phone.  I ALWAYS get e-mail contact instead.

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I have yet to log an iTar and not have an Analyst phone me.  Much to my
annoyance actually.  My first form of contact is e-mail.  However, they have
this ability to determine when I step away from my desk and then phone

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RE: Fav. Urban Legend... Hot vs Cold

2002-03-18 Thread Ball, Terry
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RE: UPGRADATION

2002-02-27 Thread Ball, Terry

I wanted to do this at my last job.  I called WWS and was told it was their
best recommendation to put it in a new home.  They would not support
installing into the old home and if you have problems, you are on your own.

Terry

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Hi
I am running oracle 8i standared edition.I want to upgrade to oracle 8i 
enterprise edition.IS this possible on same oracle home?
If not then can I install oracle 8i enterprise edition into another oracle 
home?
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RE: Ftp command

2002-01-21 Thread Ball, Terry

Try prompt before issuing the mget or mput command.

Terry

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Hallo,

anyone whom can tell me how to write the ftp command if I want to receive
all files in the unix directory to the hard drive without to need reply yes
for each file.
using the command mget I suppose but ar ethere any options I might use. The
same question if i want to copy files from harddrive to the unix library,
using th ecommand mput

Thanks in advance


Roland S

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RE: DBA Vs Apps DBA

2002-01-21 Thread Ball, Terry

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The DBA has more responsibility, usually more experience (this usually
translates into higher pay as well) than Apps DBA. 

Well, yes and no.  I have seen many orginizations pay the Apps DBA more,
because of the Specailized knowledge they have.  


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RE: RE : Table partition on part of a field

2002-01-16 Thread Ball, Terry

One thing to consider is adding a field to the table for the three positions
and have a trigger fire to insert the substr from the other field.  It will
slow things down, but would give you the field needed to do the partioning.

Terry

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 I thought about it, but there are many update programs 
 and my first inclination is to leave the design as is.
 We are talking about PORTING application and I do not want
 to add design changes as well.
 
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  Make it two fields 6  3
  Partition on 3
  And create a view to concatenate the two fields into one
  
  Regards,
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  Hello All
  
  I need to create a partitioned table base on the last three 
 digits on 9
  digits number.
  
  Create table test (zip_and_city_code number(9));
  
  The zip code is 6 digits and the city code is 3 digits.
  
  The design is from an application that used btrieve and is 
 now ported to
  Oracle.
  (I would not allow this design if it was a new system).
  
  I want to group every city records into its own partition.
  
  First I tried to use range partitioning based on a function 
 on the field
  and
  it does not work.
  
  Then I thought about using hash partitioning using my own 
 hash  function
  but
  could not find 
  where I can use my own hash function.
  
  Any help to implement this @#$% design will be really appreciated.
  
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Determining Striping

2002-01-02 Thread Ball, Terry

Is there a UNIX command to determine what, if any, striping was used when
setting up a server and it's disk?

Sun Solaris 6, 7 and 8 are what I'm specifically interested in.

TIA,

Terry

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RE: simple SQL

2001-12-07 Thread Ball, Terry

create table test1 tablespace test1 as select from test2;

tablespace goes right after the new table_name.

Terrry

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Hi Gurus,

Iam creating table from one tablespace to another tablespace, Iam getting 
error!!!

create table test1 as select * from test2 tablespace TEST1;

What is the problem with statement??

Thanks
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RE: UTL_FILE_DIR problem

2001-12-03 Thread Ball, Terry

It seems to me, I remember something like this.  If I do remember correctly,
you need the execute permissions for the directory, so it would need to be
775.

Terry

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Hi all,

I got one problem about UTL_FILE_DIR.
My oracle version is 8i 8.1.6
Platform is unix sun solaris.

I have set UTL_FILE_DIR to : /customer/ShopA
and I write PL/SQL code to write a log file (A.txt )into /customer/ShopA
When I execute the PL/SQL job through SQLPLUS,
I hit error message saying that I can't write to the directory.
the /customer/ShopA directory permission is  set to 664.
Let's say owner is A, and the group is A1

Can I tell the program to access the directory and write to the file as
another user ?
If I'm not wrong, the program will try to write into the directory using
oracle unix account.
Note : I don't want to set the write permission to other group.
I have tried to include oracle in A1 group using secondary group, but it
couldn't work.

Can somebody tell me how to let oracle write into the directory and the file
as well without
changing the directory / file permission.

if I set UTL_FILE_DIR = *
would there be any security issue ?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks  Regards
Herman









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RE: RE: ORA-03113

2001-11-29 Thread Ball, Terry

Try doing:
ps -ef|grep pmon|grep SID
It will look something like
  oracle 20065 1  0   Nov 11 ?0:07 ora_pmon_BI
Issue the kill against the PPID that is returned, in this case 20065.
The kill command would look like:
kill -9 20065

Terry

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If I'll apply this command it's will take all oracle processes down  for
every instance in this box?

Thanks.



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29 10:35 AM 
Why don't you want to want to take all the oracle processes down?  I thought
that's what you wanted to accomplish with shutdown immediate? 

Go ahead and issue Mladen's command and restart the database.  It's the only
way you can bring it down if you can't connect with svrmgrl or sqlplus. 

Lisa Koivu
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 Hi All!
 I tried shutdown immediate and get ORA-03113.
 Now I can't connect to database. How I can take instance down? On this HP
 box 10 different databases. 
 This command was posted some time back by Mladen:
 
 ps -fu oracle|grep -v PPID|awk '{ print $2; }'|xargs kill -9 
 It's will take all oracle processes and listeners down 
 which I don't want to do. I'm on  Oracle 8.1.6.
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RE: Altering Indexes

2001-11-27 Thread Ball, Terry

You can't do it en-mass.  Why not write a script to do this.
select 'alter index '||index_name||' rebuild new_tbsp;'
from user_indexes;
or somthing similar.

Terry

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I have this large DB (approx. 250 tables) that has the tables and indexes in
the same tablespace (not my design).  Is there a way I can move all of the
indexes to a separate tablespace en-mass?  I know I can move them one at a
time with the alter index command, but that would be rather time consuming.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
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ftp tools

2001-11-21 Thread Ball, Terry

Does anyone know a site where one can get a FREE gui ftp tool?

Thanks,
Terry

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RE: Sqlloader - important

2001-11-13 Thread Ball, Terry

(KAMPANJTYP_ID DECODE(:KAMPANJTYP_ID,'?','98'!','97', :KAMPANJTYP_ID),
 ^^^

No comma seperating the '98' and the !'  Should probably read:
(KAMPANJTYP_ID DECODE(:KAMPANJTYP_ID,'?','98','!','97', :KAMPANJTYP_ID),

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Hallo,


Why does this sqlloader ctl file give me this errormessage?

the control file looks like:

load data
infile 'c:\kam\kampanj.txt'
TRUNCATE
into table  kampanjtyp_kopia
FIELDS TERMINATED BY ';'
 (KAMPANJTYP_ID DECODE(:KAMPANJTYP_ID,'?','98'!','97', :KAMPANJTYP_ID),
KAMPANJTYP_NAMN)


SQL*Loader-944: error preparing insert statement for table KAMPANJTYP_KOPIA.
ORA-01756: quoted string not properly terminated


Thanks in advance

Roland S


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