Re: Eval copy of 91
Nothing, really. But it is quite likely that an Oracle sales rep will be giving you a call sometime during your evaluation. Chuck - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:15 PM I have purchased an eval copy of 9i for my PC using XP Prof. The eval is for 30 days. What happens at the end of the eval period? Does my PC melt, does the DB lock up, or nothing? TIA, Ken Janusz, CPIM -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charles Wolfe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Codde's Rules and Oracle
One could argue that Oracle is compliant with rule 11. A distributed Oracle database can be constructed in such a way as to be transparent to end users. With the addition of 'INSTEAD OF' triggers in 8i, one could argue that Oracle is also compliant with rule 7. Just my $.02. Chuck - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:45 AM Here's a URL for a list of the rules: http://luna.pepperdine.edu/~ckettemb/class/Codd12R.html After taking a quick glance at the rules, I think that Oracle fails on 7 and 11, probably others, but those were the ones that stood out without too much pondering. :) Jared On Friday 18 January 2002 09:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. In fact, I don't believe that there is a database in existence that does conform to all 12 rules. I'll let someone else answer the hard part, just not enough time for that. Jared Vikas S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/18/02 02:30 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Codde's Rules and Oracle Dear All, Does Oracle confirm to all 12 Codde's Rules. Can anyone point out the Rules violated by each version (6/7/8/9) of Oracle. Thanks, Vikas _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charles Wolfe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Codde's Rules and Oracle
Certainly, much of the 'under the hood' work needed to make the delivered database simple for end users to manipulate is very complicated. But, Codd merely postulated standards for the 'ideal' relational database, he didn't prescribe the means for achieving those standards, or that the standards be easy to achieve, only that it be simple for end users to obtain the data they need. Anyway, if it were too simple, the work wouldn't be terribly interesting, and DBAs would be little more than glorified system administrators. :) Chuck - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 4:40 PM I admit to being on shaky ground on rule 11. See my comments in another post. You *could* argue that 'instead of' triggers allow compliance with rule 7. Have you tried to implement it? It gets too complicated too fast. This may be a case of being in compliance with the letter of the law while violating its spirit. Jared On Saturday 19 January 2002 12:10, Charles Wolfe wrote: One could argue that Oracle is compliant with rule 11. A distributed Oracle database can be constructed in such a way as to be transparent to end users. With the addition of 'INSTEAD OF' triggers in 8i, one could argue that Oracle is also compliant with rule 7. Just my $.02. Chuck - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:45 AM Here's a URL for a list of the rules: http://luna.pepperdine.edu/~ckettemb/class/Codd12R.html After taking a quick glance at the rules, I think that Oracle fails on 7 and 11, probably others, but those were the ones that stood out without too much pondering. :) Jared On Friday 18 January 2002 09:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. In fact, I don't believe that there is a database in existence that does conform to all 12 rules. I'll let someone else answer the hard part, just not enough time for that. Jared Vikas S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/18/02 02:30 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Codde's Rules and Oracle Dear All, Does Oracle confirm to all 12 Codde's Rules. Can anyone point out the Rules violated by each version (6/7/8/9) of Oracle. Thanks, Vikas _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charles Wolfe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: is C compiler a must for oracle UNIX installations ?
Relinking only requires 'make' and 'ld'. The components which make up the Oracle binaries are provided as compiled object code, so no C compiler is necessary for relinking. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:35 AM some of my friends are telling me that they have succesfuly installed oracle 7.3.1 on AIX 4 WITHOUT the C compiler present.. !! and i was the one telling them how oralce requires to relink the executables after the installation. Regards -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charles Wolfe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: RE: UNCUT ORACLE-L The Motion Picture
Title: OT: RE: UNCUT ORACLE-L The Motion Picture Don't you mean "rogue" college intern? :) - Original Message - From: Bowes, Chris To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:47 AM Subject: OT: RE: UNCUT ORACLE-L The Motion Picture UNCUT ORACLE-L Coming to theaters near you. Oracle-L, the UNCUT version is rated NC-17. Directed by Bruce. Produced by Jared Still. Starring: Lisa Koivu. Watch as she machetes a user who left his userid and password on a post-it on his PC allowing a rouge college intern to hack the system and destroy data. /Clip Lisa: "YOU'VE USED THAT PASSWORD FOR THE LAST TIME MISTER", User: "NOo!" Hack hack slice slice Lisa: "Now where's that intern..." /Clip Ross Mohan as her feisty sidekick. (envision Joe Pesci) /Clip "Nice Cutting Lisa. So l-user, is it funny now? Does she make you laugh? Like a clown? Looks like we'll have to rewrite that song. 'The ankle bone's connected to the spinal cord...'" /Clip Rachel Carmichel, as the goddess of manager destruction. Watch as she stuffs a chair down the throat of a manager for his really stupid ideas. /Clip Manager: "But Rachel, don't you think that we could eliminate that 450g worth of data and save a lot of money in training, dba costs and license fees if we converted everything to Excel Spreadsheets? Why are you looking at me like that? No, now put down that chair that could be an OHSA recordable. Open Wide? Oh, you silly. I've already had brunch with the steering committee. That's where this excellent excel idea came from. We can do this right? I figure 450 g isn't that much is it? All we have to do is get some PC's and a couple secretaries and... No, back away. N." Stuff, cram, cram. /Clip Eric Pierce as Master Po giver of infinite knowledge. /Clip "Grasshopper. You will find all you need at these links." /Clip Director Jared Still, in a special appearance. He dispatches another developer for bad locking practices: /Clip "Six table locks? For a three table select? I asked for code and you bring me this. What have I done to deserve this disrespect. To the acid baths with him..." /Clip Christopher Bowes as the thoroughly confused rookie: /Clip: "HELP!... Am I an idiot? Well, no I don't think so. What's an idiot? RTFM? What's an RTFM? Read the what? What's a concepts manual. What's a concept? That's nice, but what is a database? I've got to build one for my boss today. I told him I would and my performance review is at 3pm... Is 15 minutes enough time to build a 40 terabyte base? But I thought DBA's did nothing but get in the way of us developers... What's a tablespace? What's a table" /Clip Other special appearances by Steve Adams, Christopher Spence, Joe Testa and lots of others from the Oracle-L. See them all as you've never seen them before. See Oracle-L, the UNCUT version. Coming this fall. Sorry, folks, slow day...
Re: closing DB on NT with a scheduled BATCH FILE
Does the owner of the batch job have Log on as a batch job permissions? This is generally necessary for scheduled batch jobs on NT/2K. hth Chuck - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:45 PM Because you are running this in the AT scheduler, it is not executing with the same permissions. I'll bet that your batch script it not on the C: drive. Put it on the C: drive and see if it works. Jared Bunyamin K. Karadeniz To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] bunyamink@havels cc: an.com.tr Subject: closing DB on NT with a scheduled BATCH FILE Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/08/01 06:15 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Dear Gurus , I have a question , In fact I wonder if it is a bug of NT . I want to close and reopen database with a .BAT file . When I execute the .bat file directly it executes correctly . But When I execute it with a schedule with AT command then it connects but does not close database. How can I handle That. ? What do you do when you want to schedule startups and shutdowns of database on NT? Thank you -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charles Wolfe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Interesting article on ongoing RedHat-Oracle feuding.
Red Hat to play in Oracle's arenaJune 19, 2001, 5:50 p.m. PThttp://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6325676.html?tag=st.ne.1003.saslnk.sasemlThe Linux seller will announce new database software next week, hoping towhittle away at Oracle the same way it has with Microsoft.
Re: OT - RE: Digestive
the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charles Wolfe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle and Red Hat
All, Over the past few days, there have been postings which stated that Oracle had withdrawn certification for Red Hat Linux. The first indicated that Oracle had withdrawn certification for Apps 11i on Red Hat Linux. Subsequent postings further indicated that Red Hat would not be a supported OS platform for upcoming releases of the RDBMS as well. I did find one forum posting on Metalink which indicated that Red Hat had withdrawn from the Oracle certification process, but have found no other references to the above. Does anyone know of any relevant articles, or support/desupport notices regarding this? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Chuck -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charles Wolfe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
