Re: APPS 11i (Linux) question

2003-06-19 Thread Dale Edgar



Hi Senthil
 
I don't have any information on your specific 
problem - but I did write up a summary of my experiences installing 11.5.7 on 
Redhat 8 and SUSE 8.1  You might find elements of this to be useful during 
your install.
 
http://databee.com/apps11i_install.htm
 
Kind regards
- Dale 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Senthil Kumar D 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:24 
  PM
  Subject: APPS 11i (Linux) question
  
  Hi 
  Group,
   
  I'm installing apps 
  11.5.8 on Linux 8. 
   
  Rapidwiz , first unzipping some 55 components. 
  After 54th component is hanging and the unzip process is getting 
  "defunct".
   
  Anybody faced the same issue during the 
  installation.
   
  Any 
  help on this Reg.
   
  Thanks,
  Senthil.


Re: MS SQL hasn't given up!

2003-02-28 Thread Dale
Hi

I saw this list posted on an Oracle Newsgroup a while back :-)

Oracle has multiversioning. SQL Server has no equivalent
In Oracle reads don't block writes and writes don't block reads
In Oracle there are unlimited row level locks
In Oracle there is no such thing as lock escallation or page level
locking
In Oracle there is no need to use temp tables to accumulate intermediate
level results
In Oracle phyiscal transactions can be as large as logical transactions.
No need to fragment them
Oracle runs on platforms other than Windows
Oracle has many trigger types not available in SQL Server
Oracle lines the pockets of Larry Ellison rather than Bill Gates. Which
means that someone is having fun with your money rather than just
hoarding it.

Also look at the link below for a longish (400+ lines) and very detailed
technical comparison.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=faulkner+oracle+sqlserver&hl=en&lr=lang_en
&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&selm=FssV9.25204%24jM5.66998%40newsfeeds.bigp
ond.com&rnum=4

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Re: How to start with Oracle Financial?

2003-02-28 Thread Dale
Hi

> Alternatively, rather than playing the E-Bay lottery you can go to the
> Oracle store and buy the same for 39.95 USD. Theoretically you should also
> order a trial license but these are free so what's the point. Anyone? Am I
> missing something here?

I have ordered the Linux version of 11.5.7 and can confirm that no keys are
asked for during the installation. The CD pack contains an option to install
a sample database called VISION which is a fully populated trial database
The VISION database does contain Financials (among many other things).
Everything in there seems to work correctly although my tests have not been
to extensive as yet.

The install can be tricky, You should really use a supported OS and version.
Judging by various posts on the Net, the NT version seems to have an
especially evil reputation. I have put online a paper on how to install
11.5.7 on on later versions of Linux - not really for the inexperienced in
UNIX or Oracle.

http://databee.com/apps11i_install.htm

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Re: OFF TOPIC: Jedis, etc - was Top 10....

2003-02-25 Thread Dale
> Not true.  This isn't a list for urban myths - if you're going to go
> off-topic, you could at least do it accurately. :-)
> http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=293

It would seem you have the definitive source.

However, I wasn't just repeating something I heard down the pub. I was
actually quoting direct from the most recent issue of "The Week" a serious
UK weekly news magazine. A google search seems to show that many others have
also been hoodwinked

http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/02/week_2/13census.html
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_750289.html

Sigh, quality journalism that. I guess I should have dug a bit further
before repeating it. Oh bother, I'm still off-topic, soy...

-Dale

> Sikh - 336,000 people.
> Jewish - 267,000 people.
> Buddhist - 152,000 people.
>
> Jedi was classified under 'Other religion' along with Druidism, Satanism,
> Wicca, Pagan, Freethinker, etc, etc.  The total for ALL these was only
> 179,000.
>
> Of course, Jedi only got as many 'votes' as it did because of a spoof
email
> which tried to convince people that it would make it into an 'official'
> religion.  Which is, of course, complete twaddle!
>
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Re: Top 10 DBA Do's and Don'ts anyone - Here is my list,

2003-02-25 Thread Dale
> Perhaps we depend to much on the force to guide and protect us at times...
> :-)

Laugh you may, but in the last UK census (not a poll mind you but the actual
national census) 400,000 people indicated their religion was "Jedi". This
was more than put their religion as Sikh, Jewish or Buddhist.

Of course its just a re-hash of Vitalisim, but (Oh dear, now I've
annoyed nearly half a million people and all of 'em on the same tiny island
as me :-)

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Re: Installing Oracle Apps 11i on Linux

2003-02-21 Thread Dale
No problem. If you can figure out a way to install it without using that
ugly little adcrdb.sh hack that I had to do I would really appreciate you
telling me. Except for that bit the install isn't too bad.

Cheers
- Dale

> thanks for sharing, this is going to be pretty useful in the future. I
read
> the warnings and had a copy of Suse 7.0 at home so I've only ever
installed
> it onto the recommended platform. Armed with your summary I may have a
shot
> at installing it on 8.1.
>
>
>> The link below contains a summary of my experiences in installing
>> Oracle Apps 11i (11.5.7) on Linux (Redhat 8.0 and SUSE 8.1
>> Professional).
>>
>> I'm posting it because I would really have appreciated being able to read
>> something like this prior to starting my installation :-)
>>
>> http://databee.com/apps11i_install.htm
>>
>> Regards
>> - Dale
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FYI: Installing Oracle Apps 11i on Linux

2003-02-21 Thread Dale


Hello AllThe 
link below contains a summary of my experiences in installingOracle Apps 11i 
(11.5.7) on Linux (Redhat 8.0 and SUSE 8.1Professional).I'm posting 
it because I would really have appreciated being able to read something like 
this prior to starting my installation 
:-)http://databee.com/apps11i_install.htmRegards- 
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Re: Plain Old Database

2003-02-14 Thread Dale
Message
> as we all know Oracle is unbreakable, so security isn't an issue.

All of these security alerts (see below) that just hit my mailbox must be
just mere formalities :-)

- Dale
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 EMAIL from Oracle below 

This e-mail is a critical technical alert which is being sent as a service
to all MetaLink users!

The following alerts have been published on MetaLink by the Oracle Security
Compliance team:

Oracle Security Alert #48 Dated: 11 February 2003 Severity: 1
Buffer Overflow in DIRECTORY parameter of Oracle9 i Database Server
(Document ID: 229284.1)

Oracle Security Alert #49 Dated: 11 February 2003 Severity: 1
Buffer Overflow in TZ_OFFSET function of Oracle9 i Database Server (Document
ID: 229285.1)

Oracle Security Alert #50 Dated: 11 February 2003 Severity: 1
Buffer Overflow in TO_TIMESTAMP_TZ function of Oracle9 i Database Server
(Document ID: 229286.1)

Oracle Security Alert #51 Dated: 11 February 2003 Severity: 1
Buffer Overflow in ORACLE.EXE binary of Oracle9 i Database Server (Document
ID: 229287.1)

Oracle Security Alert #52 Dated: 11 February 2003 Severity: 2
Two Vulnerabilities in Oracle9 i Application Server (Document ID: 229288.1)

MetaLink Security Alert Dated: 11 February 2003 Severity: 1
Security Vulnerability in E-Business Suite Release 11 i (Document ID:
229257.1)



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Re: Using Soft Links for Datafiles

2003-02-10 Thread Dale
> We are in the process of creating a 9.2 RAC database. And we are being
> forced to follow a standard whereby, all files are to be in a directory
> structure, say /local. No standards have yet been defined, if one were
> using raw volumes. And since we will be using raw volumes for the
> datafiles, to enforce the standards, we are being asked to create symbolic
> links from /local datafiles to the raw volumes. To convince them
otherwise,
> I have seemed to dug up two issues.

[... stuff snipped]

One word of warning about using symlinks to point to datafiles is that you
have to make sure your datafiles get backed up. Since you are using raw disk
this probably isn't an issue and have arranged appropriate backups.

However, I have seen it done where a DBA wanted to move a datafile and
rather than doing it properly just shutdown the DB and moved the datafile
and then put a symlink to the new location in the original spot. The
database will start and operate just fine -but- most backup sofware will go
trolling down DBA_DATA_FILES and backup up only the symlink (its really a
tiny little file on UNIX) rather than the database itself. In other words
the backup software doesn't follow the link. At restore time you find you've
simply restored the link and the target file has never been backed up.

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Re: Problem with LONG column

2003-02-05 Thread Dale
Title: Which rollback segment is currently active?



Hi Banarasi
 

>One of my development team is working on ORACLE 8 on NT (Because of 
client requirement they are working on that version). One Table was created with 
wrong column name. Now they wanted me to correct the column name. But 
real problem is one column of that table is LONG data type. So I was unable to 
use 
Insert 
into ... Select  statement. Any suggestions in this 
regard highly appreciated.
 
Investigate the SQL COPY command. It will 
copy LONG columns. I think you'll probably find it in the SQLPlus 
manual rather than the SQL Reference.
 
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Re: Urgent PDF to TXT Convert

2003-01-10 Thread Dale
Hi

> Do you know any 3rd party software (other than Adobe Acrobat) that convert
few hundred pages of PDF to TXT.
> Sorry for the OT but please guys, is quite urgent thanks

There are loads of them - including some freeware ones (IIRC). Just do a
Google search on "pdf2txt" and you'll find a selection from which to choose.

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Re: Script to recreate schema

2002-12-27 Thread Dale
> > I'm sure many of you have scripts to recreate an Oracle schema including
> > objects (i am interested in tables, indexes , comments, views,
sequences,
> > triggers, stored procs/functions etc..)
> exp userid=system/manager file=schema.dmp rows=n owner=scott
> vi schema.dmp

Instead of "vi schema.dmp" use the freeware DBATool to extract a set of
rebuild scripts from the export file. It is much easier and there are a lot
of other options available too.

DBATool: http://www.DataBee.com/dt_home.htm

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Re: Direct and indirect foreign key relationships in SQL or Pl/Sql

2002-12-19 Thread Dale
> How do I find out the direct and indirect foreign key relationships?
> Say, for example there are four tables A, B, C and D of which A is the
> parent table and B, C and D are child tables.  Say B and C are related to
A
> directly and D is related to A through C.  How do I find out this indirect
> relationship apart from the direct relationships?  Any help in this regard
> is very much appreciated.

The DataBee software has a Chain Finder tool in the Set Designer which
displays exactly this.  DataBee is designed to create referentially correct
subsets of Oracle databases and isn't free. However we do offer a 30 day
evaluation which might enable you to get done what you want to do. If you
would like to have a go at it drop me a note and I'll arrange to get an eval
key over to you.

Here's a link to the Chain Finder help page - it has a nice picture of the
relationship display.
http://www.databee.com/sdchainfinder.htm

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Re: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-19 Thread Dale
>   I do have a set of sqlplus scripts that we wrote for 7.3.4 that generate
> DDL for objects in the database.
>
> So, you can write your own.   All the neccessary information is in the
> catalog.

It is for the more common stuff but for some objects the information is so
deeply buried it is next to impossible to figure out how to regenerate. For
example, try figuring out how to rebuild the DDL for a Hash Cluster from the
catalog.

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Re: export porblem ???

2002-12-18 Thread Dale
Hi

Is it possible you FTP'd the export file across to the new machine in ASCII
mode (the default on win systems)? Always ensure you use BINARY mode - the
stray LF's get substituted by CRLF's inside the export file and it really
messes up the internals and can sometimes the imp utility to skip to the end
without reporting an error.

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> i am exporting a DB of size 10G.
> it totally has 33 tables.
> everything completes succesfully and even the log file
> says "EXPORT COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT ANY WARNING".
>
> But while importing it,only 17 tables are imported.
> after that the cursor stands still and the import does
> not process further.the remaining 16 tables are not imported
> at all.
>
> why is it so ? have any of you come across such situation ?
>
> will datafiles of size greater than 2G cause such problem ?
>
> the DB is on oracle 8.1.6/Win2k.
>
> kindly let me know guys.
>
> TIA.
> Jp.
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Re: Something that might be of use

2002-12-04 Thread Dale
Hi Stephen

> The program is functional but not necessarily
> elegant.  Of course, no guarantees about anything are made.  If you make
any
> improvements, I would be most appreciative if you sent them.

If you need this sort of thing you might consider having a look at the
freeware DBATool. It is designed to do exactly what your program does - but
it has GUI interface and a lot finer control over the manipulation of the
DDL. You can independently change or remove every component of a tables
storage clause independently and can even use wild cards. For example: all
tables get 1M extents except for tables like XYZ% which get 100K extents
except for tables XYZ1 and XYZ2 which get 10K extents. You can also put OR
REPLACES automatically on packages procs etc, reset sequences to known
starting values, and change the target of DB links. Its all driven by
rules - so once you set it up you can save and reload the rules anytime you
need them.

DBATool: http://www.DataBee.com/dt_home.htm

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> We often need to refresh test and development databases with exports that
> have extent sizing a lot bigger that what we want.  In test and ESPECIALLY
> dev, space and file system availability often require us to just  get
> something working without regard for performance.  In these cases, extent
> sizing in the exports often prevents us from loading even a row-less
import
> into the test/dev database.  The following C program was written to deal
> with those situations.  I have used it enough that I think I can go ahead
> and toss it out to the world.  The program is functional but not
necessarily
> elegant.  Of course, no guarantees about anything are made.  If you make
any
> improvements, I would be most appreciative if you sent them.




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Apps 11i on Red Hat 8.0

2002-12-02 Thread Dale
Anyone care to share any experiences installing Apps 11i release 7 on RH
8.0? I'm about to give it a go in the next couple of days - and would
appreciate hearing about your experiences.

I note that SUSE 7.1 seems to be the only officially certified distro.
H.

Oracle Trivia Question: "If you order the Oracle Apps 11i Release 7 suite
from Oracle how many CD's do you get?"
Answer: 54 (yes thats right, fifty four CD's) - the mind boggles. No wonder
they don't let you download the thing :-)

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Re: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology

2002-11-28 Thread Dale
Hi Ferenc

> Why don't companies do more DD before naming products ? The Gurkhas were
> special forces in the British Army, trained to DESTROY and DEMOLISH ! So,
> is this an electronic version of it (eGurkha) ? Not likely to score points
> with the Brits for installing this on their systems eh ?

Not at all - quite the reverse in fact. The Gurkha regiment still exists and
is highly respected in the UK. The Gurkha regiment is renowned for its
toughness, loyalty and tenacity.

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Re: Move ALL Data from 1 Database into Another

2002-11-14 Thread Dale
Hi Jeremiah

> I don't like any of the suggestions so far, because they take more
> time than necessary.  DB links do ONE ROUND TRIP for every row
> fetched!  That is not efficient.  Export is a nightmare of potential
> failures. I think you can devise the best solution by just copying the
> database files.

Are you sure about the "one round trip" thing. I may be mistaken but I must
admit that has not been my experience. Are you thinking of occasions when
you use a remote table (accessible via a DBLink) in a local join? In such
cases the optimizer might set up the plan to get the remote rows
individually rather than doing unproductive remote full or range scans. One
would anticipate that a query like INSERT into  (select * from
remotetable@link) would pull things over in a stream. OCI certainly streams
query results like that - I'm not saying that DBLinks are based on OCI -
just that there is precedent for this in at least one Oracle networking
layer.

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Re: Move ALL Data from 1 Database into Another

2002-11-13 Thread Dale
> What about foreign keys, functions, procedures, synonyms, roles, grants
and
> triggers (if any)?  I've used the db link and it's faster than imp/exp but
> it doesn't do anything for other database objects.  Also, if you do have
> foreign keys then a certain amount of pre-planning is necessary to move
> data in the right order.

Actually in this case you can have your cake and eat it too. Use the
freeware DBATool to generate the database recreation scripts. Run the the
scripts to create all of the structure (including foreign keys, procedures,
synonyms etc). The DBATool can also generate scripts to disable (and
re-enable) all of the foreign keys. Disable the FK's, pull the table data
across via one or more DBLinks and run the FK re-enable script when done.

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Re: Read Only Login with Source Visibility

2002-11-05 Thread Dale
Hi Bill

> I am trying to create a read-only login, RO_USER which can do the
following:
> 1. See all tables, views, constraints etc. in one  *specific* other
schema,
> 2. See all the source for PL/SQL objects in APP.

Is what you really want is a way for users to be able to see the DDL and
PL/SQL without actually being able to run or modify it? If so, as a
suggestion, why don't you try using the DDL to HTML documentation generator
in the freeware DBATool. You could easily cut a browsable tree with all (or
part) of a schemas DDL. It also does nice things like cross reference
related entities - for example for a table you can click on links to the
associated indexes, foreign keys, grants, synonyms etc.

Password protection and security can easily be implemented by moving the
HTML tree onto a password protected drive.

An example tree can be found at the link below

http://www.databee.com/dt_htmltree/db=TESTDB1+sc=DT_TEST.htm

The DBATool is freeware http://www.DataBee.com

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Re: How to get rid of a column default value ?

2002-10-04 Thread Dale

Hi Louis

> Anyone knows how to get rid of a column default value ?   I rtfm and
search
> metalink with no luck.

Just set the default back to NULL.

To apply the default:
ALTER TABLE "BONUS"  MODIFY ("COMM" DEFAULT 10 );
To remove the default:
ALTER TABLE "BONUS" MODIFY ("COMM" DEFAULT NULL );

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Re: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Dale

If the schema has any complexity then manually identifying and extracting
the required dependent records can be quite troublesome. There is a white
paper on the DataBee web site entitled "Test Database Generation and
Management" that discusses the issues in some detail.

http://www.databee.com/TestDBGenWhitePaper.pdf

We also provide an automated tool designed for the purpose of creating
referentially correct subsets of data. It may be useful in your case.

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>   I need your advise , currently our customer have a production and
> development system , if there is a problem log being raise ,
> then we need
> to
> port the data from development to production  but not the
> whole database
> sometime is only certain record.
>
 >  Is there any method to use instead of generate insert statement for
> necessary  table(PROD) and run the statement (DEV) ?
>
>  I do think of using XML but I don't know how to do it



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Re: How to Call C Routine from PL/SQL

2002-09-17 Thread Dale

Hi Suman

> I want to call C Program routine from PL/SQL. What all things I need
> to do.

ExtProc's are what you need. Check out the very good tutorial at:
http://home.clara.net/dwotton/dba/oracle_extn_rtn.htm

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Re: Creating Scott/Tiger

2002-08-30 Thread Dale

Hi Jonathan

> I need to create the Scott/Tiger schema in Oracle9i. Does anyone
> recall off the top of their head just where the script to do this is
> located?

The creation script can usually be found in
${ORACLE_HOME}/sqlplus/demo/demobld.sql

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Re: Constraints problem

2002-08-24 Thread Dale

Hi

> I had to copy a set of tables with data from one schema into another.
> I did this by using "create table  as select * from
master_schema.table_name;
> But the constraints ( primary key, foreign key  etc)  are not created in
the test schema.
> Is there any way to implement all the constraints (in the master_schema)
into the test schema?

Grab the freeware DBATool. It can generate schema DDL scripts and can easily
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(indexes, fk constraints, synonyms etc). The DBATool is specifically
designed to create test schemas and allows you to manipulate the schema DDL
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Re: DB copying : Attack of the Clones!

2002-07-19 Thread Dale

Hi Kirti

Do you absolutely need full size copies? If small referentially correct
subsets were suitable you could use our DataBee software to "re-create and
re-load" the test databases as necessary.

In other words, you would not need to back up and restore full size
databases. You simply press the button and regenerate the subsets when
required. Depending on the size of the subset, the refresh would not take
more than an hour or two. The load process is quite straight forward - many
of our customers just create the initial subset databases and then off load
the "truncate and reload" work to the developers and testers themselves. The
DBA's are removed from the loop and because the databases are small the
create process is very quick - the developers and testers can refresh their
databases whenever they want.

Actually, DataBee would clone the full size databases just fine - its just
not really designed for that purpose in mind.

DataBee: http://www.DataBee.com

In any event, you should have a look at our freeware DBATool. It contains
(among other things) a rule based schema adjuster that should take care of
your requirements to modify the DDL in the test schemas
http://www.DataBee.com

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> I was 'volunteered' to participate in a task force charged with finding
> quick solutions (in less than 2 weeks) to support following Dgmt decision:
>  Clone 14 production databases in their entirety for ongoing code testing,
> recreating production problems etc.
>
>  BTW, if we decided on any 3rd party tools, then Dgmt wants it installed
> within the next 4-5 weeks. Any Vendor types lurking on the list? This is
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Re: Yesterday's date - unix question

2002-07-15 Thread Dale

Hi Vladimir

date --date '1 day ago'

Works on my O/S (RedHat Linux) - your O/S may not support this.

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Re: Replicating a user across DBs

2002-07-12 Thread Dale

Hi Jesse

> In 8.1.7, is there a way to easily replicate a user from one DB (e.g.
> "development") to another (e.g. "production")?  I can export all the
objects
> in the schema, but export/import won't recreate the schema in the import
DB.
>
> I've been using OEM to create a script (reverse engineered from "Create
> like..."), but the resulting script requires editing and the assignment of
a
> resource plan doesn't always play nice, either.
>
> There has got to be a better way...

The freeware DBATool will do this. It reads an export file created ROWS=N
and will generate the schema DDL from it (including grants TO and FROM,
public synonyms dblinks, profiles, etc etc). The DBATool can also adjust or
remove the tablespace and storage clauses on the output scripts and has
nifty DDL to HTML converter.

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Re: Free Open source PL/SQL Editors / DB management tools

2002-04-22 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi

> are U aware of any free open source PL/SQL Editors or freeware/open source
> tools for database management ?
> If so , would u please post an URL of a such .

Depends on what you want for Database management - if you need to document
schemas or re-create them elsewhere the Free DBATool might be of interest to
you. http://www.databee.com/dt_home.htm

The DBATool is designed to read an Oracle export file and create executable
DDL from it which can rebuild the database - its simple to use and quite
useful for DBA's and developers. The DBATool can also strip off (or
substitute) storage clauses and other DDL components and pull out as DDL all
dependencies (indexes, FK's, grants etc) for a selected group of tables.

One of the more popular features is the DBATools ability to dump the schema
structure out to a linked HTML tree - instant documentation. An example can
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Re: Data Subset Tool?

2002-01-21 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi Jared

> Do you know if anyone has successfully used this tool
> on an SAP database?  That would be *truly* impressive.

No, there has not been a SAP implementation. There is no reason why DataBee
could not do it though.

We would be willing to work closely with someone (and provide a free copy of
DataBee) who was willing to develop such a subset cut and would place the
resulting extraction rules in the public domain for anyone to use.

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Re: Data Subset Tool?

2002-01-20 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi Jared

> I've seen some pretty ugly schemas in Oracle, from third
> party apps in particular.
>
> It would be most interesting if an automated tool could
> subset these.

They do get ugly don't they - however, I would be very suprised if DataBee
was not able to cut a subset.

DataBee is quite simple in concept - at its most fundamental level it
processes a list of rules which tell it which tables need which supporting
rows from other tables. The schema complexity is largely an irrelevant
issue - DataBee takes things one rule at a time and says "I have this row in
this table therefore I need these rows from this table based on this join
condition). It is very fast and implicitly eliminates duplicates. It is also
interesting to note that table size is also not super important. Sure the
extract is slower on large databases, but the extract time scales upwards
with the size in a very well behaved manner.

Give it a try if you want. There is a fully functional evaluation version
(with sample schema) available for download on the DataBee website.
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Re: Data Subset Tool?

2002-01-18 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi Jared

Disclaimer: I work for Net 2000 Ltd. the authors of DataBee - a database
subsetting tool.

> Disk is cheaper.  :)

It only seems so because manually creating subsets is such a nightmare - but
if you have large databases it just isn't practical to give every developer,
tester and trainer a full size copy of production. So what do you do? Well
if your like most DBA's you create far fewer copies of the big database than
is really needed and everybody has to share it. Then the trouble starts: the
developers the collide with one another, the testers
trash each others data and everybody squabbles because they have to wait for
a time slot. Truth be known - developers, testers and trainers don't like to
work on full size copys (it slows them down) and they don't like to share.

As you say, manual subsets are not cost effective because of the DBA effort
involved in making them. If you have an automated tool that just snips out
subsets like a cookie cutter then you can have as many as you care to.

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Re: Data Subset Tool?

2002-01-18 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi Larry

Disclaimer: I work for Net 2000 Ltd. the authors of DataBee.

>...but does anyone have
>recommendations on a tool that will create a subset of production data that
>is referentially intact? I am aware of DataBee...

I don't mind telling you who the competition is - we are confident that we
are better value both in price and functionality:-) Two other subsetting
tools on the market are DataManager from Quest
http://quest.com/schema_manager/  and CheckMate from BitByBit
http://www.bitbybit.co.uk

>, but it might be more cost effective to buy
> something if the price is right. The main feature I would be interested in
> is a tool that maintained the distribution characteristics of the data.

DataBee is designed specifically to cope with this requirement. You can set
up the rules (called an Extraction Set) based on multiple drivers. You
could, for example, sample 10% of a table (even on ora7.x) and then put on
other rules which pick up specific date ranges. You can also use multiple
tables: ie get 5% of all invoices from the INVOICE table and 25 specific
customers from the CUSTOMER table. DataBee would cheerfully get all of the
customers to support the invoices and all of the invoices to support the
customers. Basically the rows are adjusted until every table has the data
required required to support all of the rest and the subset is in balance.

> I know it can be built by hand
They can but it is (as I'm sure you know) a lot of hassle - and it can be a
nightmare to get the FK constraints to re-enable if you have a lot of them.
An automated tool really is cost-effective. One of our customers used to
take a week and 45 skilled DBA hours to cut a subset database - even then
only about 200 of the 500 constraints would enable. DataBee cuts the subset
in 4 hours (its a push button operation once the Extraction Set is setup)
and all 500 constraints enable.

DataBee: http://www.databee.com

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Re: USER DUMP HOW?

2002-01-17 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi Diego

> Or you can write your own scripts, I have found this one between my
scripts,
> I have never tested, I prefer to use Import/Export for that kind of job.

The easy way to do this is to get the Freeware DBATool. It will read an
export file (created ROWS=N) and present you with the DDL contents in a
nicely formatted and intuitive manner.

It does lots of other things as well - you can generate recreate scripts for
all or part of a schema. (for example: a script that recreates a role and
every grant it has). The DBATool can strip of storage clause information
from every DDL bit code with a single button press or dump the entire schema
out to an HTML tree and just browse through the DDL as it suits you.

The DBATool is currently in beta. The second beta release (which cleaned up
a lot of 9i issues) was just released today. Download the DBATool from
http://www.databee.com/dt_home.htm

Cheers
Dale Edgar
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Re: Data Cleansing.

2001-10-19 Thread Dale Edgar



Hi Yuval
 
Can you tell us a bit about what you would like the 
product to do (a wish list)
 
> We are 
currently looking into a tool that will help us validate data (. Can you 
recommend any tool or product that will do it in an Oracle 
environment.
 

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Re: Datatype

2001-09-25 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi Ken

> Is there an Oracle datatype of DATETIME?  I can only find DATE in my
> documentation.

Oracle DATE datatypes have the time in them as well. Probably it is not
being displayed by default on a SELECT because the NLS_DATE_FORMAT in your
init.ora is set to the default.

To get times in and out of DATE datatypes investigate the TO_CHAR and
TO_DATE SQL functions. It should be in Chapter 4 or so of the Oracle 8.1.6
SQL reference manual. (see
http://www.oradoc.com/ora816/server.816/a76989/toc.htm) other Oracle
versions may vary slightly.

Here's an example: select to_char(sysdate,'DY DD MONTH  HH24:MI:SS')
from dual;

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Re: Oracle error after recovery

2001-09-20 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi Ron

> I did a complete recovery of an Oracle instance.  Everything looked great
> but when I bounced the instance
> and tried to bring it back up I got the following Oracle error.  I have
> checked everything.  There are no other
> instances running.

Do you still have a sgadef.dbf  hanging around? Try stopping the
instance and moving/renaming this file. Oracle Note 18070.1 on Metalink may
also have a bit of useful information for you on this problem.

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Re: Training Database

2001-06-04 Thread Dale Edgar

Hi John

> 1. Is it possible to setup a database that is a subset of a production
>  database for training purposes (Oracle 10.7 and Oracle 11i)?
> If so, how is this done?

If the schema is of any complexity this can be quite difficult. If you do it
manually you should prepare yourself for a trip through PL/SQL hell. Not
only do you have to get the data from every table required to support the
rows in the others - but you also have to sift out duplicates.

I've needed to do this a lot in the past and have not been terribly happy
with the tools on the market. So I wrote my own. The software is called
DataBee and it is available now. I haven't really started to promote it
yet - I'm waiting until the end of June when I'll have quit my day job.

There are two other software products that can also cut subsets (both are
more expensive and harder to use than DataBee IMHO)
DataManager from Quest http://www.quest.com
Checkmate from BitByBit  http://www.bitbybit.com

DataBee can be found at http://databee.com/

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Re: Oracle Standards Document Sought

2001-06-04 Thread Dale Edgar

Thank you very much for this.

Cheers
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> > Dale Edgar wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All
> > 
> > I've recently been tasked with writing the Oracle Standards Document
> > at work. You know the sort of thing I mean - naming conventions for
> > tables, columns, datafiles, tablespaces &etc, mount points, init.ora
> > standards et al.
> > 
> > Would anybody be willing to send me the standards document you work
> > from to use as a template? It would be much appreciated. The O/S is
> > AIX - but any doc would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance
> > Dale Edgar
> 
> There are some standards available in the 'Standards' section of the
> Oriole Web site - not a lot of things, we optimistically relied on
> external contributions to thicken the section a bit, but ...
> If you happen to find more interesting things to publish, don't forget
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Oracle Standards Document Sought

2001-06-03 Thread Dale Edgar



Hi All
 
I've recently been tasked with writing the Oracle 
Standards Documentat work. You know the sort of thing I mean - naming 
conventions fortables, columns, datafiles, tablespaces &etc, mount 
points, init.orastandards et al. 
 
Would anybody be willing to send me the standards 
document you workfrom to use as a template? It would be much appreciated. 
The O/S is
AIX - but any doc would be 
appreciated.
 
Thanks in advanceDale 
Edgar