RE: freebie. Summarize Oracle Listener logs

2004-01-05 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Sorry  - meant to send just to Steve

Please ignore



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Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Sent: 05 January 2004 11:19
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Steve,
I have an awk script which does something similar - see code and example below
 
However I can put your file on my site where I have already stored your Perl script 
for getting the DDL out of an export file   ( www.hcresources.co.uk) if you wish.
 
Cheers
 
John
 
Service :Host :User :tcp:ip address

===

WMBT_DEV:CHALK :PARKR :tcp:10.33.33.215 13

WMBT_DEV:__jdbc__ :oracle :tcp:10.33.15.38 11

WMBT_DEV:__jdbc__ :oracle :tcp:10.33.15.43 1734

 

echo "Service :Host :User :tcp:ip address"

echo "==="

grep CONNECT b2tperf.log |\

awk -F= '{print $3 ":1:" $6 ":2:" $7 ":3:" $9 ":4:" $10 ":5:" $11}' |\

sed 's/).*:1:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*:2:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*:3:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*:4:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*:5:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*$//' | \

awk -F: '{printf("%-8.8s:%-16.16s:%-16.16s:%-3.3s:%-10.15s\n", \

$1,$2,$3,$4,$5)}' | sort > /tmp/j.lis

grep -v PROGRAM /tmp/j.lis > /tmp/j1.lis

cat /tmp/j1.lis | awk '{if (data[$0]++ == 0)lines[++count] = $0}\

END{for (i = 1; i <= count; i++)print lines[i],"\t"data[lines[i]]}'\

|sort -n +4

rm /tmp/j.lis

rm /tmp/j1.lis

 

 

 

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I wanted to summarize our listener logs to see who's connecting with what tools. I 
checked google and didn't see anything, so I decided to write one. It may be useful to 
somebody else.
 
It summarizes the lines of a listener log. the output is similar to 
 
Ora Listener Log Summary V0.5
Oracle SID: ODP Log File: TSOORDDB.listener.log
Listener Started at: 06-DEC-2003 07:53:26
User Host Program Total
   
PA1DBO   TSOORA49 DMSERVER_V4.EXE 6,594
PW1DBO   TSOORA50 DLLHOST.EXE 1,514
IWAM_TSOORA50TSOORA50 DLLHOST.EXE   600
PW2DBO   TSOORA56 DLLHOST.EXE   362
ITMDBO   TSOORA52 SQLPLUS.EXE   166
SYSTEM   TSOORA56 MAPS_BIZ   88
PW3DBO   TSOORA57 TD2000.EXE 72
ASPNET   TSOORA56 ASPNET_WP.EXE  57
ORACLE   __JDBC__41
ARCDBO   SATSAP09 SQLPLUS.EXE12
2KNUPPS  SKNUPP-1 TOAD.EXE7
PERRYSM  SAIT02547SQLPLUSW.EXE6
2RILEYJ  GLEFIO01210  TOAD.EXE4
2MASHUA  GLEFIO01262  TOAD.EXE3
PA1DBO   TSOORA49 DMFILESCAN.EXE  3
PA1DBO   TSOORA49 DMCLEAN.EXE 3
LDQDBO   TSOORA24 JREW.EXE2
2SHURTN  GLEFIO01261  TOAD.EXE1
PW3DBO   TSOORA57 DBDBOIN.EXE 1
PA1DBO   TSOORA49 SQLPLUSW.EXE1
ODDDBO   TSOORD08 EXP.EXE 1
2KNUPPS  SKNUPP-1 SQLPLUSW.EXE1
PW2DBO   TSOORA56 SQLPLUSW.EXE1

 
notes:
It sorts in descending order by the connect attempts.
all connect lines are counted. It doesn't take into account if the connection was made 
- only that it was attempted. seperating the failed connections may be a future 
enhancement.
I just wrote it (and some cutting/pasting from the net), so it hasn't been burned in 
yet. 
It will process 100 meg of logs in few minutes. 
It was written for windows only. sorry, I work in a MicroSlop env... 
 
I have a  cmd file that I use to run it so it can process our current logs or older 
stuff.
Rather than pasting both of them inline, email me and I'll send them out.
if you want it bad :), email me at work  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
otherwise use  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll get to it when I get home.
 
if somebody optimizes it, cleans it up,finds a flaw..., let me know so I can update it.
 
Steve
 
 

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RE: freebie. Summarize Oracle Listener logs

2004-01-05 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Steve,
I have an awk script which does something similar - see code and example below
 
However I can put your file on my site where I have already stored your Perl script 
for getting the DDL out of an export file   ( www.hcresources.co.uk) if you wish.
 
Cheers
 
John
 
Service :Host :User :tcp:ip address

===

WMBT_DEV:CHALK :PARKR :tcp:10.33.33.215 13

WMBT_DEV:__jdbc__ :oracle :tcp:10.33.15.38 11

WMBT_DEV:__jdbc__ :oracle :tcp:10.33.15.43 1734

 

echo "Service :Host :User :tcp:ip address"

echo "==="

grep CONNECT b2tperf.log |\

awk -F= '{print $3 ":1:" $6 ":2:" $7 ":3:" $9 ":4:" $10 ":5:" $11}' |\

sed 's/).*:1:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*:2:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*:3:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*:4:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*:5:/:/' | \

sed 's/).*$//' | \

awk -F: '{printf("%-8.8s:%-16.16s:%-16.16s:%-3.3s:%-10.15s\n", \

$1,$2,$3,$4,$5)}' | sort > /tmp/j.lis

grep -v PROGRAM /tmp/j.lis > /tmp/j1.lis

cat /tmp/j1.lis | awk '{if (data[$0]++ == 0)lines[++count] = $0}\

END{for (i = 1; i <= count; i++)print lines[i],"\t"data[lines[i]]}'\

|sort -n +4

rm /tmp/j.lis

rm /tmp/j1.lis

 

 

 

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Sent: 05 January 2004 03:29
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I wanted to summarize our listener logs to see who's connecting with what tools. I 
checked google and didn't see anything, so I decided to write one. It may be useful to 
somebody else.
 
It summarizes the lines of a listener log. the output is similar to 
 
Ora Listener Log Summary V0.5
Oracle SID: ODP Log File: TSOORDDB.listener.log
Listener Started at: 06-DEC-2003 07:53:26
User Host Program Total
   
PA1DBO   TSOORA49 DMSERVER_V4.EXE 6,594
PW1DBO   TSOORA50 DLLHOST.EXE 1,514
IWAM_TSOORA50TSOORA50 DLLHOST.EXE   600
PW2DBO   TSOORA56 DLLHOST.EXE   362
ITMDBO   TSOORA52 SQLPLUS.EXE   166
SYSTEM   TSOORA56 MAPS_BIZ   88
PW3DBO   TSOORA57 TD2000.EXE 72
ASPNET   TSOORA56 ASPNET_WP.EXE  57
ORACLE   __JDBC__41
ARCDBO   SATSAP09 SQLPLUS.EXE12
2KNUPPS  SKNUPP-1 TOAD.EXE7
PERRYSM  SAIT02547SQLPLUSW.EXE6
2RILEYJ  GLEFIO01210  TOAD.EXE4
2MASHUA  GLEFIO01262  TOAD.EXE3
PA1DBO   TSOORA49 DMFILESCAN.EXE  3
PA1DBO   TSOORA49 DMCLEAN.EXE 3
LDQDBO   TSOORA24 JREW.EXE2
2SHURTN  GLEFIO01261  TOAD.EXE1
PW3DBO   TSOORA57 DBDBOIN.EXE 1
PA1DBO   TSOORA49 SQLPLUSW.EXE1
ODDDBO   TSOORD08 EXP.EXE 1
2KNUPPS  SKNUPP-1 SQLPLUSW.EXE1
PW2DBO   TSOORA56 SQLPLUSW.EXE1

 
notes:
It sorts in descending order by the connect attempts.
all connect lines are counted. It doesn't take into account if the connection was made 
- only that it was attempted. seperating the failed connections may be a future 
enhancement.
I just wrote it (and some cutting/pasting from the net), so it hasn't been burned in 
yet. 
It will process 100 meg of logs in few minutes. 
It was written for windows only. sorry, I work in a MicroSlop env... 
 
I have a  cmd file that I use to run it so it can process our current logs or older 
stuff.
Rather than pasting both of them inline, email me and I'll send them out.
if you want it bad :), email me at work  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
otherwise use  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll get to it when I get home.
 
if somebody optimizes it, cleans it up,finds a flaw..., let me know so I can update it.
 
Steve
 
 

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RE: Code Conversion from MSSQL into Oracle

2003-12-11 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Steve Perry from this list produced a perl script to read a import file (rows=n) and 
produce formatted DDL.
Whilst it is not perfect (as Steve agrees) it does give a good basis of where to start 
with processing and transforming a text input stream into a text output stream whilst 
making a small no of changes)  - or ETL as it is called these days, using PERL as the 
mechanism.
 
I host the zip file on my site at http://www.hcresources.co.uk/perlscript.shtml
 
I hope someone finds it useful.   If they do thank Steve.
 
HTH 
 
John

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Sent: 11 December 2003 12:55
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10 years ago or so, I wrote a 105 line script for the UNIX "sed" (a.k.a. "stream 
editor") command to convert Teradata "BTEQ" scripts into Oracle SQL*Plus.  Painful, 
yet thrilling, and it took only about a day of concentration with the O'Reilly "Awk 
and Sed" book at hand.

I'll bet you can write something (whether in "sed" or "awk" or Perl or Java) faster 
than it takes you find a TransactSQL-to-PL/SQL converter...?  And if you don't know 
Perl (probably the best choice) yet, this exercise could be the opportunity to put a 
huge new skill into the old skillset...

Just a thought...



on 12/11/03 4:49 AM, VIVEK_SHARMA at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Are there any TOOLs for converting Sample Code (like the following) from MSSQL into 
Oracle?



SAMPLE :-



DECLARE @entity_id char(32), @branch_id char(9)



DECLARE  cur_temp_GEMT CURSOR FOR select

branch_id,entity_id from GEMT where other_party_name='' and entity_type='D'



OPEN cur_temp_GEMT   



FETCH NEXT FROM cur_temp_GEMT INTO

 @branch_id,@entity_id

 

WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0



BEGIN





UPDATE GEMT SET other_party_name=(SELECT name from GEAT where branch_id [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and  addr_type='1' and entity_type='D') where [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] and branch_id = @branch_id



FETCH NEXT FROM cur_temp_GEMT INTO

 @branch_id,

 @entity_id





END



CLOSE cur_temp_GEMT

DEALLOCATE cur_temp_GEMT










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RE: shareplex: datatype unsupported

2003-11-05 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Please bear in mind that there is one thing in a datatype being supported and another 
in all functions and features of Shareplex being usable when that datatype is involved.

I am thinking about datatype long specifically.

We have been replicating a 8i database (tru64) to a 9i one (sun)using Shareplex for 
months and we have tested the reverse replication and that works equally well. That is 
not to say that we have not had problems though !!


John

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Hi,
We are evaluating using either Oracle logical standby or Quest Shareplex 
replication for reporting purposes. It appears that there are quite a few 
datatypes not supported by Logical standby. Anyone knows what datatypes are 
not supported by shareplex replication? Tried looking up at quest website 
but could not find any documentation.

Quest claimed that shareplex can replicate database of different versions, 
for eg from 9i to 8i as long as the 9i new features are not being utilized. 
Anyone has any experience with that?

Thanks.

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RE: A quick note

2003-10-08 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Hey good to see you back again Lee.

The big change here is that all Oracle knowledge has been cyber-engineered into an 
automoton called Tanel Poder.
Any query to the list is routed by a big fast connection into a huge server with 
hundreds of CPU's and unlimited memory

An almost instantaneous reply is automatically generated , often complete with complex 
examples and code cuts to demonstrate the point.
The best part is that is that the machine is programmed to exibit almost humanistic 
type responses (occasionally) 

John


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Hi everyone,

I'm back in the land of the living after spending a year on a DB2 EEE
project. I've just started working on a 9i RAC solution so the questions
will soon be flooding in. I will be lucky if I can even remember to spell
spqlusl , I mean sqlplus :-)

Cheers

Lee






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RE: how to check 32 or 64 bit?

2003-09-24 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Perhaps it is even simpler to describe V$session

The first column SADDR is raw(8) on 64 bit and is raw(4) on 32 bit databases 

John

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Oracle DBA wrote:
 > Also how to check whether my DB is 32 or 64 bit

SQL> SELECT dbms_utility.port_string FROM dual;

PORT_STRING

SVR4-be-64bit-8.1.0

SQL> SELECT paddr FROM v$session WHERE rownum < 2;

PADDR

00038A57CA28

SQL> connect ...
Connected.
SQL> /

PORT_STRING

SVR4-be-8.1.0

SQL> SELECT paddr FROM v$session WHERE rownum < 2;

PADDR

902B51D8
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RE: translate, replace...?

2003-09-17 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Yes, you are correct Igor.
It was taken from an example I had which did 3 replaces.
I did manage to substitute the 13 and 10 correctly though


select replace(replace(a,chr(13),'R'),chr(10),'')  from table


John

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Looks like you've got "one too many" REPLACEs.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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IA,

The following code should be close to what you want

select replace(replace(replace(a,chr(13),'R'),chr(10),''))  from table

John

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Hi,

I have a column with carriage returns (chr(13) ) and line feeds
(chr(10)). I
want to select this column replacing the chr(13) with 'R' and chr(10)
with '
' .

Whats the best way to do this?

Regards

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RE: translate, replace...?

2003-09-17 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
IA,

The following code should be close to what you want

select replace(replace(replace(a,chr(13),'R'),chr(10),''))  from table

John

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Hi,

I have a column with carriage returns (chr(13) ) and line feeds (chr(10)). I
want to select this column replacing the chr(13) with 'R' and chr(10) with '
' .

Whats the best way to do this?

Regards

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RE: get sid (session id) and serial#?

2003-09-05 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
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RE: How can I measure my DB performance.

2003-09-05 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Get the purge package written by Tim Gorman available from 
http://www.evdbt.com/tools.htm (no 31 on the list)
Install it as user perfstat and then create the folloiwng 2 dbms_jobs as user perfstat 
to take snapshots every hour and purge snapshot data older than 7 days

Works on 8.1.7 & 9 (but not on 8.1.6 because the perfstat tables have changed since 
then)

declare
l_job number;
begin
dbms_job.submit (l_job,'statspack.snap;',trunc(sysdate)+13/24,'sysdate+1/24'); --every 
hour on the hour
end;
/

declare
m_job number;
begin
dbms_job.submit (m_job,'sppurpkg.purge(7);',
trunc(sysdate)+12/24,'sysdate+1');
end;
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John

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I too have mine setup to take a snapshot every 15 minutes.
Can you teach me how to automate purges using sppurge.sql ?
Thanks
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RE: Oracle on Win2000

2003-09-04 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
PC Anywhere or direct from the console

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First time I have got to maintain Oracle databases on Win 2000 server.  What tools do 
you guys use to get to the server to admin oracle databases ?
 
Thanks,
 
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RE: sqlload

2003-09-03 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Tom,
I am afraid you are wrong there, a parameter file can be used to run a sqlloader script

The syntax that Fawzia uses is correct although as per imp/exp it would be better to 
put all the parameters in the parfile file 

I spent years not knowing that and in frustration posted to the list and was 
immediately shown how to do it

Interesting  to see if this reply makes it to the list as the last one I posted about 
2 hours ago never got there.

John


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Fawzia,

Try the following (change parfile= to control=)

sqlldr control=pants.ctl log=me.log

parfile is for imp/exp.

Good Luck!

Tom Mercadante
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PLEASE Can someone help??I have a sqlloader control file below and I am
getting the following error when I run it and I just cant see what is
wrong!!!

Rgds

Fawzia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sqlldr parfile=pants.ctl log=me.log
LRM-00110: syntax error at 'LOAD'
LRM-00113: error when processing file 'pants.ctl'

Control file:


LOAD DATA
INFILE  'gazza2.csv'
APPEND
INTO TABLE olsr10_tlmif2.gazetteer1
fields terminated by ','
trailing nullcols
(postcode_prefix_spaced char,
filler1 char,
postcode_prefix char,
filler2 char,
postcode_range char,
filler3 char,
town char,
filler4 char,
county char,
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RE: Permissions error

2003-09-03 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Well spotted Ron. I had not realised it was a VMS box
Either way the principle is correct - set up the environment first

John

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John,
 If the OS is Dec Alpha OpenVMS.
 In the user environment execute the $ORACLE_HOME[.util]orauser.com to
properly set the Oracle logicals for the user. A SHOW LOGICAL will
display what you have set now.
Ron
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The different account wil lnot have it's Oracle environment set up
properly.
Check out  the .profile on the account that works and the one that does
not.
One will set up an Oracle_home and Oracle_sid variable, the other will
not.
If it is not in the .profile then look at any other script that is
called before you run sqlplus
 
John

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Hi All 

I get this error when I try to log into sqlplus from my DEC ALPHA
machine through a telnet session. 


Enter user-name: testid 
Enter password: 
ERROR: ORA-01034: ORACLE not available 
ORA-07320: smsget: shmat error when trying to attach sga. 
DEC OSF/1 (AXP) Error: 13: Permission denied 


Did some permissions get corrupted.  I am able to connect using sqlplus
from my oracle account. 
This happens when I try to connect from a different account. 


Thanks 
David 

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RE: Permissions error

2003-09-03 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
The different account wil lnot have it's Oracle environment set up properly.
Check out  the .profile on the account that works and the one that does not.
One will set up an Oracle_home and Oracle_sid variable, the other will not.
If it is not in the .profile then look at any other script that is called before you 
run sqlplus
 
John

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Hi All 

I get this error when I try to log into sqlplus from my DEC ALPHA machine through a 
telnet session. 


Enter user-name: testid 
Enter password: 
ERROR: ORA-01034: ORACLE not available 
ORA-07320: smsget: shmat error when trying to attach sga. 
DEC OSF/1 (AXP) Error: 13: Permission denied 


Did some permissions get corrupted.  I am able to connect using sqlplus from my oracle 
account. 
This happens when I try to connect from a different account. 


Thanks 
David 

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RE: Some posts not showing up

2003-09-03 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
I sent 2 posts last week within the space of 5 minutes and neither of them showed up.
Posts made both before and since have shown up so it is not a matter of becoming 
unsubscribed in my case.
 
John

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There is no moderator per se.  The only one is me, and I only 
do that when absolutely necessary. 

I see this one made it to the list, you must have resubscribed. 

All:  If email sent to you bounces too many times, you will be 
automatically dropped from the subscriber list, and you will 
have to re-subscribe. 

If you're not getting emails from the list, try resubscribing. 

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I've noticed a few of my recent posts have not shown up. Is "someone"
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this before but some of my posts make it and some do not. I don't see
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RE: get sid (session id) and serial#?

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RE: Congratulations Arup (DBA of the Year)

2003-08-28 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Not being a party pooper but what does DBA of the Year actually  mean.
What criteria was used.
How can Oracle know about a quarter of a million DBA's unless it monitors tars raised.

John


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Just came to know from CTOUG news that Oracle has chosen Arup Nanda(our
List member) as "DBA of the Year".

Congratulations Arup. thought I will share this news with the group.

CTOUG Board Member, Arup Nanda, Chosen as "DBA of the Year"
Oracle has chosen our very own CTOUG board member, Arup Nanda, as the "DBA
of the Year", out of some quarter million DBAs worldwide. There will be a
felicitation ceremony at OracleWorld and the award recipients will be
featured in Nov-Dec issue of Oracle Magazine. Thought you would like to
know, as a part of the CTOUG community. In his interview, he has mentioned
CTOUG, so watch for it.  Arup is President of Proligence
(http://www.proligence.com/).

Thanks.

Best Regards,
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RE: number of active members in this list

2003-08-27 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Active and subscribers are 2 different things
I bet there are not more than 100 -150 people who post regularly, say once a month or 
more but I am sure there are a lot more lurkers

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Hi!

Just wondering. what is the number of active subscribers to this list? An
approximation is enough :)

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RE: speeding up conventional path sqlldr

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RE: SharePlex

2003-08-14 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Ha, been there done that
Not an uncommon event as I understand it.
 
John

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I'll add one to the list:
 
nnn) How much downtime and DBA time is required when the Shareplex replication queues 
get corrupted and you have to rebuild your entire replicated database? (I only add 
that as I've got to do it tomorrow morning).
 
 T¬

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I know a little of their product...   but I think you should be well aware of the 
limitations before attempting to implement it.  Here are a couple of questions to ask 
the technical folks over there...
 
1) What happens when someone applies an Oracle Financials patch to the system.  What 
is the procedure?
2) Do you have anyone else running Financials 11i that you could talk to as a 
reference?
3) Do they support IOT's? (Which Financials has a lot of)
4) How much downtime is normally associated with something like adding a new table or 
dropping one from replication?  
 
Nick
 
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We are not running 9i  but 8.1.7.4, sorry for not including that earlier.  We are 
rolling out to our international offices and we basically have offices in every time 
zone.  I'm looking at SharePlex for HA, reporting use, and potentially migrating from 
HP to Linux.  They will be on Linux next month.
 
Allan

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Nelson,
 
SharePlex does the same basic thing that Oracle does for the logical standby, as a 
matter of fact if your running 9i why not use that instead of Quests's pricey tool?  I 
don't believe there is any additional cost to using logical standby over the second 
server license that your going to have to pay anyway.
 

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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Hello, 

Quest is trying to sell us a product named SharePlex.  It sounds very attractive, but 
then sales people are supposed to be good at that.  We are a mid sized company, about 
2.2 billion per year, running Financials 11.5.7.  We are interested in this for HA and 
for reporting instance use.  

 
We use Cognos as our query tool and the owners of this product tells me that we can't 
tune the SQL it emits.  It makes pretty poor choices, which is not surprising for a 
gooey, sticky tool designed for end users.  It is sort of pretty and if you can drool 
you too can generate cross products.  Anyway , I'd like to get them off the production 
box.

 

Does SharePlex allow you to stay close to the production instance in time?  Does the 
store and forward work well?  Do you love it?  Hate it?  Anything you'd like to say 
about this product I'd like to hear

Thanks in advance 
  


Allan L. Nelson
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RE: SharePlex

2003-08-14 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Is your first sentence a bit of an understatement Nick ? If so I suppose you can call 
your points 'leading' questions like lawyers use to trap a defendant
We use Shareplex and I have seen some of your posts on the subject (and still have 
them in my saved box)
 
John
 

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I know a little of their product...   but I think you should be well aware of the 
limitations before attempting to implement it.  Here are a couple of questions to ask 
the technical folks over there...
 
1) What happens when someone applies an Oracle Financials patch to the system.  What 
is the procedure?
2) Do you have anyone else running Financials 11i that you could talk to as a 
reference?
3) Do they support IOT's? (Which Financials has a lot of)
4) How much downtime is normally associated with something like adding a new table or 
dropping one from replication?  
 
Nick
 
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We are not running 9i  but 8.1.7.4, sorry for not including that earlier.  We are 
rolling out to our international offices and we basically have offices in every time 
zone.  I'm looking at SharePlex for HA, reporting use, and potentially migrating from 
HP to Linux.  They will be on Linux next month.
 
Allan

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Nelson,
 
SharePlex does the same basic thing that Oracle does for the logical standby, as a 
matter of fact if your running 9i why not use that instead of Quests's pricey tool?  I 
don't believe there is any additional cost to using logical standby over the second 
server license that your going to have to pay anyway.
 

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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Hello, 

Quest is trying to sell us a product named SharePlex.  It sounds very attractive, but 
then sales people are supposed to be good at that.  We are a mid sized company, about 
2.2 billion per year, running Financials 11.5.7.  We are interested in this for HA and 
for reporting instance use.  

 
We use Cognos as our query tool and the owners of this product tells me that we can't 
tune the SQL it emits.  It makes pretty poor choices, which is not surprising for a 
gooey, sticky tool designed for end users.  It is sort of pretty and if you can drool 
you too can generate cross products.  Anyway , I'd like to get them off the production 
box.

 

Does SharePlex allow you to stay close to the production instance in time?  Does the 
store and forward work well?  Do you love it?  Hate it?  Anything you'd like to say 
about this product I'd like to hear

Thanks in advance 
  


Allan L. Nelson
Oracle DBA 
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RE: sar

2003-07-31 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Normally sudo is used to grant limited permissions.

The SA would allow you to use sar and for you to access it you would type 
sar 
and be prompted for a password and you would enter the appropriate password.


John


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Just got this email from my SysAdmin when I asked for access to sar. Anyone
know what he is talking about? We are on AIX 4 and 5.

"I cannot give you direct access to the sar command.  Because of the
parameters
the command allows, it would be equivalent to giving full root access.

If you could give me some details on the kind of information you would like
to
be able to collect, maybe we could set up some kind of command to obtain
it."

Henry


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RE: 8.1.7.4 interim patch management strategy

2003-07-30 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Always a difficult activity although the opatch utility available with 9i could prove 
a real benefit

Most sites I have worked on don't have a policy as such but they only apply patches as 
and when necessary.
The other difficulty is that out of say the 180 patches you mention, many may apply to 
a specific executable and therefore over write each other.

The other problem is where many databases share a single OH. Applying a patch to one 
database impacts them all and requires a lot more testing, outage and overall 
management.

The only clean way is to have a new OH for each patch install, this is not very 
practicable 

No easy answer I am afraid but I would only  be applying patches when absolutely 
necessary

John



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Hello All,

There are 188 interim patches after 8.1.7.4 patchset. I know that
8.1.7.4 is the last patchset.

1. What methods/strategy do you'll have for installing patches on a
8.1.7.4 64 bit hp-ux 11.11 database?
2. Is there opatch for 8.1.7.4? AFAIK opatch is only for 9i.
3. Should one install all the applicable patches (around 180 individual
patches)?
pessimistic (wait for the bug to hit and db to crash)
optimistic (install applicable patches)
4. How to manage the interdependencies between these 180 individual
patches?
5. Can we create a hp unix patch depot like "thing" for all these oracle
patches? 

pls dont advise putting an enhancement request and upgrading to 9i/10i
:-)

Thanks,
Mandar
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RE: Extproc setup Q?

2003-07-24 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Jack,
This is a post from a few weeks ago that gives a setup
TNSNAMES:
 
extproc_connection_data.world =
(DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS =
  (PROTOCOL = IPC)
   (KEY = extproc_agent)  <--- Key1
)
  (CONNECT_DATA = (SID = 11)  <--- Key2
  (server=dedicated))
)
 
Listener:
 
EXTPROC_LISTENER =
  (ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS =
  (PROTOCOL = IPC)
  (KEY = extproc_agent) < Key1
)
  )
SID_LIST_EXTPROC_LISTENER =
  (SID_LIST =
(SID_DESC =
   (SID_NAME = 11)  < Key2
   (ORACLE_HOME = /ora1/81764)
   (PROGRAM = extproc)
)
  )
 
BTW: Oracle's recommendation is to use a seperate listener for extproc calls.
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 <http://www.quantsystems.nl/> 

Tried that still the same error message.


Any other hints & tips for me to try? 
 
Just curious though ,why is it DLLS if I'm working on LINUX
 
 
Jack

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Please add the line in red to your listener.ora file. Extproc has been made secure in 
Oracle 9i. The following line has to be added to execute your own external procedures.

LISTENER = 
  (DESCRIPTION = 
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = Linux)(PORT = 1521)) 
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = IPC)(KEY = extproc_agent)) 
  ) 

SID_LIST_LISTENER = 
  (SID_LIST = 
(SID_DESC = 
  (SID_NAME = plsextproc) 
  (ORACLE_HOME = /oracle/app/product/9.2.0) 
  (PROGRAM = extproc) 

(ENVS="EXTPROC_DLLS=ANY")
) 
(SID_DESC = 
  (GLOBAL_DBNAME = Ora92) 
  (ORACLE_HOME = /oracle/app/product/9.2.0) 
  (SID_NAME = ora92) 
) 
  ) 


Regards

Munish Bajaj

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Hi All, 

I am trying to setup EXTPROC but keep getting ORA-28575 (Check your tnsnames.ora & 
listener.ora) 

Attached are my files that look OK to me 

Anybody?? 


 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]$ cat tnsnames.ora 
# TNSNAMES.ORA Network Configuration File: 
/oracle/app/product/9.2.0/network/admin/tnsnames.ora 

ORA92 = 
  (DESCRIPTION = 
(ADDRESS_LIST = 
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = Linux)(PORT = 1521)) 
) 
(CONNECT_DATA = 
  (SERVICE_NAME = Ora92) 
) 
  ) 
extproc_connection_data = 
  (DESCRIPTION = 
(ADDRESS_LIST = 
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = IPC)(KEY = extproc_agent)) 
  (CONNECT_DATA = (SID = plsextproc)) 
) 
) 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]$ cat listener.ora 
# LISTENER.ORA Network Configuration File: 
/oracle/app/product/9.2.0/network/admin/listener.ora 


LISTENER = 
  (DESCRIPTION = 
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = Linux)(PORT = 1521)) 
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = IPC)(KEY = extproc_agent)) 
  ) 

SID_LIST_LISTENER = 
  (SID_LIST = 
(SID_DESC = 
  (SID_NAME = plsextproc) 
  (ORACLE_HOME = /oracle/app/product/9.2.0) 
  (PROGRAM = extproc) 
) 
(SID_DESC = 
  (GLOBAL_DBNAME = Ora92) 
  (ORACLE_HOME = /oracle/app/product/9.2.0) 
  (SID_NAME = ora92) 
) 
  ) 

 

TIA 



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RE: DB_BLOCK_LRU_LATCHES , multiple buffer pools , oracle9i

2003-07-23 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Not sure what exactly you are asking here but one way of sizing the multiple buffer 
pools is to look at V$DB_CACHE_ADVICE view.

The following is from the 9i performance tuning manual

V$DB_CACHE_ADVICE can be used to size all pools configured on an instance. Make the 
initial cache size estimate, run the representative workload, then simply query the 
V$DB_CACHE_ADVICE view for the pool you want to use.

For example, to query data from the KEEP pool:

SELECT size_for_estimate, buffers_for_estimate
 , estd_physical_read_factor, estd_physical_reads
  FROM V$DB_CACHE_ADVICE
 WHERE name  = 'KEEP'
   AND block_size= (SELECT value FROM V$PARAMETER 
 WHERE name = 'db_block_size')
   AND advice_status = 'ON';

John


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  when configuring multiple buffer pools in oracle9i , how are lru_latches set.
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RE: faq broke? -- Other options

2003-07-21 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Good point Rich.
I am sure I saw a post recently from Cary Millsap which shows how you could flush the 
buffers out with an alter system command (9i only)  - to save restarting the database 
when running performance trials
I have searched for it everywhere to no avail
So if anybody recalls what it was please let me know (I assume it is undocumented as I 
cannot find anything in the manual)

Thnaks

John
 

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Hey Bruce,

Any possibility of making the bodies of the FatCity archived messages
searchable, instead of just the subject?  That's the only reason why I even
bother with the orafaq search.

Thanks,
Rich

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> Subject: Re: faq broke? -- Other options
> 
> 
> Don't think that the only searchable archives are on orafaq.  
> Fat City has the definitive archives that date back to the 
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RE: rman legato 32 vs 64 bit conflict.

2003-07-08 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Joe.
We had that problem on several servers

We installed the 64 bit libs as libnwora.64 and proceeded to relink using those.
We had 32 bit installed first (Oracle 8.1.7x) and we needed 64 bit for the 9i databases

The symbolic link required is below

mv $ORACLE_HOME/lib64/libnwora.so $ORACLE_HOME/lib64/libnwora.so.save 2>>/dev/null
ln -s /usr/lib/libnwora.64.so $ORACLE_HOME/lib64/libobk.so

John

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Anyone there in oracle land running both 32 bit and 64 bit oracle and 
using rman w/legato.  I assume i need 64 bit libs for 64 bit oracle and 
32 bit libs for 32 bit oracle of the legato software?,  the unix admin 
says legato wont install the 64 bit since it says its already installed.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

thanks, joe

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RE: any script to parse alert log ?!

2003-07-07 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
This was posted by David Hill on 21/3/3. Hope it helps

John

Here a fast little script I wrote that can be ran every minute

Emails only when it finds a new message

And pages if it finds a new message between 6pm and 5am

 

FPATH=/prod/dba/scr

autoload f_xmail

 

logfile=/prod/dba/logs/`cat /prod/dba/sys_data/newpath`/misc_logs/chk_alerts.log

 

echo "$(date +%y-%m-%d_%H:%M)  BOK - $$" >> $logfile

for i in DB1 DB2; do

   typeset -l sub=$(echo $i |cut -c1)

   alert_log="/prod/dump/$sub/alert_$i.log"

   if [ -f $alert_log ]; then   #if you don't find an alert log its ok just exit

line_file="/prod/dump/$sub/ora_line"

if [ ! -f $line_file ]; then 

echo 0 > $line_file

fi

last_line=$(cat $line_file)

new_line=$(cat $alert_log |wc -l)

if [ $new_line -lt $last_line ]; then#then the alter log must have been 
deleted and recreated

  last_line=0

fi

 

if [ $(tail +$((last_line + 1)) $alert_log |grep ORA- |wc -l) -gt 0 ]; then

echo "$(date +%y-%m-%d_%H:%M) NEW ORA Messages Found" >> $logfile

(echo "From: chk_alerts.ksh"

 echo "Subject: ORA messages found for $i \n"

 cat $alert_log ) |mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] #mail the 
entire log when new messages are found

if [[ $(date +%H%M) -lt 0600 || $(date +%H%M) -gt 1800 || $(date +%u) 
-gt 5 ]]; then #nobody is around page also

echo "$(date +%y-%m-%d_%H:%M) Nobody is at work so paging 
also" >> $logfile

f_xmail pager ORA messages found for $i

fi

fi

echo $new_line > $line_file

   else

  echo "$(date +%y-%m-%d_%H:%M) NO alert_log found to scan" >> $logfile

   fi

done


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Guys,

I need a parse alert log and mail me if there is any error.
Hope u guys would have some script for the same.

i have 8i and 9i instances spread across windows 2000 network.

even if u guys have script for unix,just pass it on to me.
let me modify and try it.

Thanks and Regards,
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RE: Migration to 9.2.0.3.0 (64 Bit) on Solaris 8 issues

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Yep. Here's the official statement from Oracle about RBO in 10i:

"The RBO is Oracle's legacy optimizer originating from Oracle Version 6 and earlier. 
The RBO is being desupported in Oracle10i. The RBO will still exist in Oracle10i, but 
will be an unsupported feature and will be removed in a future release. No code 
changes will be made to the RBO code and no bug fixes will be provided. The RBO was 
superseded in Oracle7 by the CBO and has continued to be available for backwards 
compatibility. Oracle Oracle10i will support only one optimizer, and all applications 
running on that release should use that optimizer. "

What's behind this wording? I don't really know, but I can guess. There's a myth that 
the RBO hasn't been enhanced since the introduction of CBO in 7.0. That, I learned one 
day in Steve Adams' car, is not true. It has been enhanced to know about new segment 
types, etc. A fun (well, fun...) exception to this is partitions. If you're using 
partitions you're using CBO.

So I read it as: "Yeah, we haven't really enhanced the RBO since 7.0 except to allow 
it to recognize IOT's and other new segment types. In 10i we won't even do that."

Mogens

Freeman Robert - IL wrote:


RWB,



I'll tell you, if KG says it about Oracle, I pretty much would go to the

bank with it.



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Mr. Gopalakrishnan:



How do you know this? Can anyone confirm (or deny) this?  I hope it is

true!

Oracle should just quit cold turkey and not support the RULE optimizer

at

all in any future releases.



RWB







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RULE optimizer will not be supported in next version.

But you can still use the RULE optimizer and it is

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There appears to be a number of folks on the list who have some insight

into

the next version of the database.  I'd like to ask those folks a simple

question.  What is the future of the Rule Based Optimizer looking like?

Does it die in 10i??



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RE: dbms_stats via dbms_job - syntax question SOLVED

2003-06-11 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Thanks for all the help. The problem was not with my coding but the syntax. In my 
worked example I had CASCADE>=TRUE whereas it should have been  
CASCADE=>TRUE. A subtle difference but one that caused me (and fellow listers) no end 
of hassle.

So all the answers that I said were incorrect were not, they had all replicated my 
original typo. 

But one thing I proved was that you can mix and match positional and naming parameters

The final working version for anyone who is interested is 

declare
l_job number;
begin
dbms_job.submit 
(l_job,'dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(''RPT_2G_MASTER'',10,FALSE,CASCADE=>TRUE);',
trunc(sysdate+1)+01/24,'sysdate+7');
end;
/

Thanks to all

John
 


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Thanks for the try Igor but that doesn't work either

ERROR at line 1:
ORA-06550: line 2, column 24:
PLS-00201: identifier 'CASCADE' must be declared
ORA-06550: line 1, column 99:

Wolfgang's suggestion doesn't work and I have tried every permutation of quotes 
(including none at all) around the cacscade keyword as per Raj' suggestion with still 
no success.

Thomas's suggestion of using a procedure was my failback position and is probably the 
way I will have to go. I am still frustrated that I cannot get the syntax to work 
correctly. 
Note I can get my original PL/SQL code to work and put an entry into dbms_jobs but it 
fails when I try a dbms_job.run  

Thanks to everyone anyway.

John

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This should work:

declare
l_job number;
begin
dbms_job.submit (l_job,'begin dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(ownname =>'
|| CHR(39) || 'RPT_2G_MASTER' || CHR(39) || ', estimate_percent => 10,
block_sample => FALSE, CASCADE >= TRUE); end;',
trunc(sysdate+1)+01/24,'sysdate+7');
end;
/

When passing parameters to stored procedure, you can not mix and match
"positional" method with "naming": either you use formal parameters, or
not.
It seems like you need "naming".
I used CHR(39) to get quotes around schema name.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Listers,

Looking for a bit of help with the syntax to submit a dbms_stats run via
dbms_jobs

The following syntax works fine to run the procedure interactively
execute
dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(ownname=>'RPT_3G_MASTER',estimate_percent
=>10,cascade=>true);

but trying to get that into an dbms_job is destroying my brain.The
syntax I am trying is based around this script

declare
l_job number;
begin
dbms_job.submit
(l_job,'dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(''RPT_2G_MASTER'',10,FALSE,''CASC
ADE>=TRUE'');',
trunc(sysdate+1)+01/24,'sysdate+7');
end;
/

The problem area is the cascade keyword. I am using single quotes in the
line but 2 of them around the schema name as that is a varchar2. Ideally
I think I want 2 single quotes around the cascade but I cannot get it to
work properly. The above example submits the job as 
Job What
==
2
dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats('RPT_2G_MASTER',10,FALSE,'CASCADE>=TRUE')
;

but that fails to run

Has anybody got any ideas. 

I seem to recall Connor McDonald having some information about this on
his web site but it doesn't appaer to exist any more

John






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RE: Deleting Statspack tables.

2003-06-11 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Tim Gorman has produced an excellent package sppurpkg.sql which certainly does the 
business for me
It can be found at http://www.evdbt.com/sppurpkg.sql

John

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Version : 8.1.7.3.

I am not sure how it is working for you just by deleting from stats$snapshot and we do 
not have 8.1.6 here.


Thanks


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Reddy - You didn't mention your Oracle version. I am on 8.1.6 and I don't
think those scripts are available there (sorry, busy day, no time to
research). So I just delete from stats$snapshot. It seems to remove data
from the associated tables just fine. First I select the snap_id and
snap_time from stats$snapshot to determine which snapshots to remove. It
runs slowly (because of all the child tables?), so I just remove a hundred
or so at a time.

Dennis Williams
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Hello All,
We have a job ( shell Script ) which deletes from the statspack tables every
Sunday, but uses SPPURGE.sql ( $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin). Seems like it is
not deleting all tables and hence causing the tablespace to grow. Does
anybody has a different approach which deletes all table without any
referential integrity issues ??

I do not want to use SPTRUNC.sql please.

Pl find below some of the statspack tables are growing so big ( also Indexes
/PKs ).

STATS$BG_EVENT_SUMMARY  7
STATS$ROWCACHE_SUMMARY  8
STATS$SGASTAT   8
STATS$LATCH_PARENT 10
STATS$SYSTEM_EVENT 19
STATS$ROLLSTAT 37
STATS$LATCH50
STATS$SYSSTAT  51

TABLE  Size in MB
-- --
STATS$PARAMETER56
STATS$LATCH_MISSES_SUMMARY 84
STATS$SQLTEXT 122
STATS$FILESTATXS  234
STATS$SQL_SUMMARY 886
STATS$LATCH_CHILDREN 2872 ( These are just tables , didnt
show indexes here)

Thank You ,
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RE: dbms_stats via dbms_job - syntax question

2003-06-11 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Thanks for the try Igor but that doesn't work either

ERROR at line 1:
ORA-06550: line 2, column 24:
PLS-00201: identifier 'CASCADE' must be declared
ORA-06550: line 1, column 99:

Wolfgang's suggestion doesn't work and I have tried every permutation of quotes 
(including none at all) around the cacscade keyword as per Raj' suggestion with still 
no success.

Thomas's suggestion of using a procedure was my failback position and is probably the 
way I will have to go. I am still frustrated that I cannot get the syntax to work 
correctly. 
Note I can get my original PL/SQL code to work and put an entry into dbms_jobs but it 
fails when I try a dbms_job.run  

Thanks to everyone anyway.

John

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This should work:

declare
l_job number;
begin
dbms_job.submit (l_job,'begin dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(ownname =>'
|| CHR(39) || 'RPT_2G_MASTER' || CHR(39) || ', estimate_percent => 10,
block_sample => FALSE, CASCADE >= TRUE); end;',
trunc(sysdate+1)+01/24,'sysdate+7');
end;
/

When passing parameters to stored procedure, you can not mix and match
"positional" method with "naming": either you use formal parameters, or
not.
It seems like you need "naming".
I used CHR(39) to get quotes around schema name.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Listers,

Looking for a bit of help with the syntax to submit a dbms_stats run via
dbms_jobs

The following syntax works fine to run the procedure interactively
execute
dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(ownname=>'RPT_3G_MASTER',estimate_percent
=>10,cascade=>true);

but trying to get that into an dbms_job is destroying my brain.The
syntax I am trying is based around this script

declare
l_job number;
begin
dbms_job.submit
(l_job,'dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(''RPT_2G_MASTER'',10,FALSE,''CASC
ADE>=TRUE'');',
trunc(sysdate+1)+01/24,'sysdate+7');
end;
/

The problem area is the cascade keyword. I am using single quotes in the
line but 2 of them around the schema name as that is a varchar2. Ideally
I think I want 2 single quotes around the cascade but I cannot get it to
work properly. The above example submits the job as 
Job What
==
2
dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats('RPT_2G_MASTER',10,FALSE,'CASCADE>=TRUE')
;

but that fails to run

Has anybody got any ideas. 

I seem to recall Connor McDonald having some information about this on
his web site but it doesn't appaer to exist any more

John






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dbms_stats via dbms_job - syntax question

2003-06-10 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Listers,

Looking for a bit of help with the syntax to submit a dbms_stats run via dbms_jobs

The following syntax works fine to run the procedure interactively
execute 
dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(ownname=>'RPT_3G_MASTER',estimate_percent=>10,cascade=>true);

but trying to get that into an dbms_job is destroying my brain.The syntax I am trying 
is based around this script

declare
l_job number;
begin
dbms_job.submit 
(l_job,'dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats(''RPT_2G_MASTER'',10,FALSE,''CASCADE>=TRUE'');',
trunc(sysdate+1)+01/24,'sysdate+7');
end;
/

The problem area is the cascade keyword. I am using single quotes in the line but 2 of 
them around the schema name as that is a varchar2. Ideally I think I want 2 single 
quotes around the cascade but I cannot get it to work properly. The above example 
submits the job as 
Job What
==
2   dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats('RPT_2G_MASTER',10,FALSE,'CASCADE>=TRUE');

but that fails to run

Has anybody got any ideas. 

I seem to recall Connor McDonald having some information about this on his web site 
but it doesn't appaer to exist any more

John






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RE: 9.2.0.3 online index builds resolved (we hope)

2003-06-05 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Stephen,
(BWhen you say there IS an problem with index rebuilds what do you mean?
(BHave Oracle acknowledged it as a bug?
(B
(BYour work around  basically slows the volume of data being passed through the buffer 
(Bcache, presumably allowing other users to get on with their work.
(BI assume that this causes the index rebuild to take longer than it did with with a 
(Bhigher MBRC on 8.1.7.4 - is that true ?
(B
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(BWell folks, there IS an issue with online index builds in 9.2.0.3.  Not only
(Bhave we experienced "normal" SQL getting blocked, but we have seen index
(Bbuilds hang indefinitely -- while holding the blocking lock (of course!).
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RE: Function Based Index - Not Used ???

2003-05-29 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Naveen , these parameters look to be already set
Doesn't FBI come in with 8.1.7 and Prem is on 8.16 and a comapatible of 8.10 is in 
place

Failing that, as my second guess, 2 privileges need to be assigned to the user 
(QUERY_REWRITE and CREATE INDEX). The 2nd one is obviously in place to allow the index 
to be created but I don't know about the first

The final point is whether the name column is not null , again I assume not but it is 
a possibility


John

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Don't remember but you need a few parameters set appropriately for the FB
indexes to work.

I guess one of the parameters is QUERY_REWRITE_ENABLED which should be set to
TRUE and you also need to set QUERY_REWRITE_INTEGRITY to some appropriate
value.

Regards
Naveen

 

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> 
> 
> Guys,
> 
> create table Tab1 ( name varchar2(100),age int,state 
> varchar2(100),country varchar2(100));
> 
> insert into tab1 values ('SCOTT',25,'TN','India');
> 
> I have 20,00,000 records like above.
> 
> create index idx1 on tab1 (upper(name));
> 
> analyze table tab1 compute statistics;
> analyze index idx1 compute statistics;
> 
> select age from tab1 where upper(name)='SCOTT'; ---> this 
> will return around 50 records.
> 
> -
>   0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=2458 
> Card=262146 Bytes=2097168)
>   10   TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'TAB1' (Cost=2458 
> Card=262146 Bytes=2097168)
> 
> --- INIT.ORA --
> optimizer_mode=choose
> compatible=8.1.0
> query_rewrite_enabled=true
> query_rewrite_integrity=trusted
> ---
> It's Oracle 8.1.6/Win2K.
> 
> When i add a HINT, IDX1 is used.Why is it so ?
> Why this SELECT does not use index IDX1 w/o a hint ? 
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RE: alter table add

2003-04-04 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Have you updated your cursor to add the new column?
 
John

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I added a column using alter table add ...
i can see it from sql . can select it from sql . But if I try to use it in a pl/sql 
block or procedure .It can't find that column .
is it a bug ? 
 
8.1.6. hp-ux
 
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RE: certifications was Re: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Say what you think Joe,
When I have been looking for contacts several agencies have asked me to take those 
tests as a means of ensuring that I know what I am supposed to know.
They act as a pre-interview filter
If it sorts the wheat  from the chaff then I don't think they perform a bad service in 
that respect.
However as far as being touted as a professional qualification as Ramesh is using them 
then I think I would forget about it.

I think anybody who contributes to this list claiming to be this, that or the other is 
setting himself up for a fall.

Dennis has got the idea by having 40% OCP in his sig (however that has been there so 
long now that the exams probably need re-taking now )

John  


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Ramesh, since in your sig line you say you're brainbench and brainbuzz 
certified, do you really think those tests have any meaning, i took them 
and thought they were a joke.

joe


Ramesh Papnoi wrote:

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>You did not mentioned what OS you are working on.
>If the remote database is on your network, even via wan, you can activate
>all the tools from your desktop.
>We use RAS to connect to remote servers without network connections and then
>you have SLOW network connection and your tools will work.
>If the need arise you can use Netop or other PcAnywhere to take control of
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>We are on windows servers and clients.
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RE: Anyone whom could explain this?

2003-04-03 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Is this procedure being run with a trigger Roland?

If so then the :new refers to the value of each row that is being inserted from the 
table 

To explain better

if an update triggger is on table roland with columns (road,town,country) and one row 
is in the table with values  Main Rd, Leeds, England
and the row is being updated to be New_Main Rd, Leeds, England then the following 
values will be in place
old:road  = Main Rd   new:road  = New_Main Rd
old:town = Leeds new:town=Leeds
old:country = England new:country=England.

That is about 100% of my PL/SQL knowledge so I hope I am correct

John

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Hallo,

anone whom could explain what new. means
in this pl/sql procedure.

for instance: new.kundeoms := new.kundeoms + (in_diff);
  new.mva := new.mva + (in_diff_mva);

How do I get hold of it so i can see which sql it runsor is new.kundeoms just a value 
from a table?





PROCEDURE add_kundeoms(in_diff in number, in_diff_mva in number,
   in_diff_brtkr in number, in_flagg in varchar2) 
IS
lDetaljFunnet boolean;
  BEGIN

IF  in_flagg = '0' THEN
  new.kundeoms := new.kundeoms + (in_diff);
  new.mva := new.mva + (in_diff_mva);
  new.kostverdi := new.kostverdi + (in_diff - in_diff_mva - 
in_diff_brtkr);
ELSIF in_flagg = '1' THEN
  new.utg_pant := new.utg_pant + (in_diff);
ELSIF in_flagg = '9' THEN
  new.shop_in_shop := new.shop_in_shop + (in_diff);
ELSIF   in_flagg = '5' THEN
  new.rest_oms := new.rest_oms + (in_diff);
END IF;

BEGIN
  db_dagoms_detalj.find(new.dagoms_id, in_flagg);
  lDetaljFunnet := TRUE;
EXCEPTION
  WHEN OTHERS THEN
lDetaljFunnet := FALSE;
END;
IF lDetaljFunnet THEN
  db_dagoms_detalj.edit;
  db_dagoms_detalj.add_kundeoms(in_diff, in_diff_mva, in_diff_brtkr);
  db_dagoms_detalj.modify;
  db_dagoms_detalj.close;
END IF;
  END;
END;


Thanks in advance






Roland


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RE: Oracle Job Task Analysis

2003-04-02 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
ables 
4. Understand and implement different Index options
available in Oracle including B*Tree, Bitmap, reverse
key, and function based
5. Implement integrity constraints
6. Understand the implementation of Workspace
Management for table Versioning



G.TUNING AND TROUBLESHOOTING
1. Use data dictionary and Dynamic Performance views
to Monitor the Database and the Instance
2.  Collect and analyze relevant database performance
information 
3. Identify and implement appropriate solutions for
database performance problems
4.  Diagnose and resolve locking conflicts
5. Diagnose Oracle Net problems
6.  Perform capacity planning
7.  Control system resource contention using the
Oracle Resource Manager
8. Implement profiles to limit resource consumption.
9.  Use vendor support services when necessary
10.  Communicate with users about problem resolution
and proper system usage



H. SCALABILITY  
1.  Demonstrate an appreciation of Real Application
Clusters Architecture Scaleup and Speedup capabilities
2. Demonstrate an Appreciation of Shared Server
Architecture
3.Demonstrate an appreciation of parallel execution
(Parallel Query,DML, DDL, and Recovery)
4. Understand  Scaleup using Oracle Net Connection
Pooling, Connecton Multiplexing 


I. HIGH AVAILABILITY
1.  Demonstrate an appreciation of Real Application
Clusters Architecture High availability capabilities
Including RAC Guard
2. Understand Connect time Failover and Load Balancing
3. Understand Transparent Application Failover
4. Understand Data Guard Architecture and Physical and
Logical Standby Databases
5. Understand Replication using Advanced Replication
and Oracle Streams



J. BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE
1. Understand and Use Oracles Extranction,
Transformation, and Load facilities including External
Tables, and  Incremental Change Data Capture
2. Understand the use of Star Schemas, Bitmap Indexes
and Bitmap Join Indexes
3. Understand Summary Management using Materialised
Views, and Oracle Dimensions for Realtional OLAP
processing
4. Understand Oracles implementation of Analytic
Workspaces for Multidimensional OLAP processing

Thanks in advance for your help,

Scott



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RE: Backup Strategy

2003-03-17 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
So what are you doing this afternoon after you have mastered the SQL Server gui this 
morning?

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I put them on

http://www.vanzanen.com/rman.zip

They are oracle 8.0 (if memory serves me right) so they won't work with 9i.
I'll see if I can find the time to do the same for 9i one of these days
(have to learn SQL Server first)

Jack

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I have found Joe Testa's site has a good set of RMAN scripts (I think they
came from Jack van Zanen off this list), quite simple but they give the
syntax for most of the commands you will want
The link was http://www.oracle-dba.com but that is no longer working

Where have you put them Joe??

John

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Jay
If you want a good book to get up to speed on RMAN, buy
Oracle9i RMAN Backup & Recovery by Robert Freeman and Matthew Hart
 
If you want to compare the steps for various recovery scenarios between RMAN
and user-managed recovery, get Oracle Backup & Recovery 101 by Smith and
Haisley. It has you create a small test database and then run various backup
and recovery steps for various types of failures and recoveries.



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Dear All, 

Iam entitled the responsibility to come out with a plan for Backup (using
RMAN) for our 
forthcoming data centre operations. Could someone help me on this? 

I would also like to know the steps for Recovery in the case of a Redo Log
member failure, 
using RMAN and the traditional Recovery commands from SQLPLUS. 

TIA . 

Best Regards
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RE: Backup Strategy

2003-03-14 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
I have found Joe Testa's site has a good set of RMAN scripts (I think they came from 
Jack van Zanen off this list), quite simple but they give the syntax for most of the 
commands you will want
The link was http://www.oracle-dba.com but that is no longer working

Where have you put them Joe??

John

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Jay
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and user-managed recovery, get Oracle Backup & Recovery 101 by Smith and
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and recovery steps for various types of failures and recoveries.



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Dear All, 

Iam entitled the responsibility to come out with a plan for Backup (using
RMAN) for our 
forthcoming data centre operations. Could someone help me on this? 

I would also like to know the steps for Recovery in the case of a Redo Log
member failure, 
using RMAN and the traditional Recovery commands from SQLPLUS. 

TIA . 

Best Regards
Jai

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RE: Re: OCP

2003-03-13 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Well said Kirti - 
Darell, you wil fail every OCP exam  you take with 50%. You need a minimum of about 
65% and up to 75% on others (don't know why they vary so much)

John

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>>> You only need to get 50% of the questions right on the upgrade tests.

Why not set the goal to it get 100% right?  ;) 

- Kirti 



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I didnt realize that you might be able to do the 8i one without handing $2k to oracle 
for their class and taking the upgrade exams is a better path.

anyone know if this is possible? You only need to get 50% of the questions right on 
the upgrade tests. 

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> Jay,
> 
> One thing to consider is that just starting the 9i track and if you've not taken any 
> OCP exams prior to September of 2002, there is a requirement to attend one 9i 
> training class in addition to the exams.  However (you'll probably need to call 
> Oracle to get a solid answer to this), if you can still take the 8i track with no 
> classroom training and then take the 9i upgrade exam (if they allow this with no 
> classroom training), this would be your least expensive route since the classes are 
> quite expensive.  The down side is a total of six exams instead of just four.
> If your company is willing to send you to one of the 9i classes, I would take 
> advantage of that and just go for the 9i track.
> 
> Good luck!
> Darrell
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RE: "Is Anybody Out There" - Pink Floyd

2003-03-13 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Paula,
I am currently having problems where we have 32 bit Oracle (8.1.7.4) backing up to 
networker successfully via RMAN.
However 64 bit Oracle (9.2) will not work against the same networker installation
ORA-27211: Failed to load Media Management Library

See note 209590.1 on Metalink for more information. It looks as if the libnwora.so 
needs to be linked to a libobk.so link. I am still investigating this but I will let 
you know

John

PS RMAN - 'Another brick in the wall ?'

  

 

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Guys, 

Does anyone know if I can use a 32-bit RMAN catalog and database running networker 32 
bit to backup a 64 bit database link to networker 64 bit libraries on a remote host?  
I am in the process of migrating to both 64 bit and 9i.

Help? 

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RE: Make first character Versal

2002-03-27 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Make first character Versal





The following sql gives the first character of a column. I am sorry but I don't know what you mean by VERSAL


select substr(version,1,1)  from database_control


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Hallo,


I know this question sound a bit simple, but  can anyone give me a select statement which make the first character of the word in a field

Would appreciate very much. I have checked the manual but cant get it right.


I am starting with this sql statement:


select (substr (namn,0,1)) from test to pick outthe first character and I want that first character to be a VERSAL.



Thanks in advance


Roland


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RE: Archiving Data Strategies.

2002-03-27 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Archiving Data Strategies.





As you say Ian partitioning is a obvious answer as I imagine the billing data will be quite easy to range partition using dates.

However why go to 9i, 8i has many partitioning options and it may be an easier upgrade as well as a leap that management might find easier to agree to. 

Unfortunately removing data when there is a lot of RI involved can be quite complex and needs good knowledge of the schema and data dependencies. This knowledge is not always available and sometimes the cost in terms of man-hours is not one that management is prepared to pay.

HTH


John




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Hi All,


I previously posted this question to the Lazydba List and got a couple
of replies, but thought I would also send it to this list as well to see
if I can just get a couple more (so excuses to those people that have
already seen it)


I am currently discussing with a customer their requirements for
archiving data as their system is 4 years old and billing data is piling
up which obviously is affecting performance. I am pushing for an Oracle
upgrade, they are currently on 7.3.4 and I am trying to get them to go
to 9i. The main reason for this is so they can use partitioning.


My question to the List is to try and find out other people's
experiences in archiving complex and integral data and whether most have
gone the partitioning path or some other path (ie. Something like
separate tables and data migration).


So I would appreciate anyones comments, the path they chose, database
size etc. 


With Thanks
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RE: Convertion from Figures to Words

2002-03-27 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Convertion from Figures to Words 





I can get the following to work with a date format but I cannot see how to do it with just plain numbers.
If nobody else comes up with an answer then I suppose  you could use DECODE or populate a reference table with each number and it's alphabetic translation

HTH


John



 1  SELECT TO_CHAR(TO_DATE('27-OCT-01','DD-MM-'),'DDSP-MMSP-YYSP')
  2* from dual
SQL> /


TO_CHAR(TO_DATE('27-OCT-01','DD-M
-
TWENTY-SEVEN-TEN-ONE



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Dear Listers ,


  I need to convert Figures to Words ...EX : 123 to One Hundred Twenty
Three
Currently I am using a writen  function to do that ..But it has limitations
... 


Any suggestions regarding that  ?



Thanks a lot in advance 




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RE: Concatenating formated number and date doesn't work

2002-03-26 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Concatenating formated number and date doesn't work





Well spotted Catherine. I got it working by wrapping an LTRIM round the TO_CHAR(12345,'099') line
John
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Hi Aleem,
 
I think it's because of the space in front. Try SELECT
';'||TO_CHAR(12345,'099')||';' from dual and you will notice that there
is a space in front.
 
  1* SELECT  ';'||TO_CHAR(12345,'099')||';' from dual
SQL> /
 
';'||TO_CH
--
; 0012345;
 
The problem does not lies in TO_CHAR( SysDate, 'MMDD' ).  Hope it helps.
 
Regds,
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Hi,


 


In a database procedure that accepts employee_ID as numeric parameter I have
the following code that doesn't work together, it however works separatly, I
wonder why?


 


PROCEDURE abc ( emp_ID IN NUMBER := 12345 )


AS


  Emp_Char_ID VARCHAR2(7);


  Bar_Char_Date VARCHAR2(8);


  Emp_Bar_Code VARCHAR2(15);


BEGIN


  Emp_Char_ID := TO_CHAR( emp_id, '099' ) 


  Bar_Char_Date := TO_CHAR( SysDate, 'MMDD' );


  Emp_bar_code :=  Emp_Char_ID || Bar_Char_Date;


  /* The concatenation line compiles fine, but at execution time gives
error:  ORA-06502: PL/SQL: numeric or value error  */


  UPDATE Employee SET Bar_Code = Emp_Bar_Code WHERE Employee_ID = emp_id;


END;


 


The same procedure works fine after the following modifications


Removed format mask on emp_id (First line of the BEGIN section)


Modified the update statement and used LPAD( Emp_Bar_Code, 15, '0')


The question is why the formatted number conversion gives error in
concatenation with date converted to character.


 


TIA!


 


Aleem


 


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I suspect that you need a new version of Veritas Volume manager, I would
check around the Veritas website for info. or there is a driver you need to
load in the boot of the installation  process. 
If you are still mystified try asking your question over on the sunmangers
list. www.sunmanagers.org 


you almost certainly will find an answer there 



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My UNIX administrator has to upgrade the OS from 5.6 to 5.8.  We are using
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RE: Cronjob misbehaving

2002-03-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Cronjob misbehaving





It looks as if your ORACLE_HOME is not being set up.
Try either or both of the following


1) Amend your cron job to look like the following (I assume you are running this as user oracle)


0 5 * * * su - oracle 'usr/scripts/recompile.sh' > /ops/scripts/recompile.log 2>&1


Otherwise set the environment up in the script


#!/bin/ksh 
export ORACLE_SID=
export ORACLE_BASE=
export ORACLE_TERM=vt100
export ORACLE_HOME=
export PATH=$PATH:$ORACLE_HOME/bin


Then the script


HTH



John


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Hi all,
Thanx for all the good work U R doing for Oracle.
I have a misbehaving cronjob


-Cron Entry
0 5 * * * /usr/scripts/recompile.sh > /ops/scripts/recompile.log 2>&1



-recompile.sh
#!/bin/ksh


## Program name : recompile.sh
## Purpose  : Recompile Invalid Database Objects for specified Shema in
FLAG
## Author   : C.S Waibale Simon
## Date written : 2002-03-19


#for i in FLAGPASS CALLSPASS FLAGPASS CH1PASS CH2PASS CH3PASS ; do
#j:=1
#$i=${i:-$(crypt flag < passwds |awk '{print $j}')
#done


SQLPLUS=/ops/product/817/bin/sqlplus
#Do not export the password variables !
FLAGPASS=${FLAGPASS:-$(crypt flag < /usr/scripts/passwds |awk '{print $1}')}
CALLS_PASS=${CALLS_PASS:-$(crypt flag < /usr/scripts/passwds |awk '{print
$2}')}
WHPASS=${WHPASS:-$(crypt flag < /usr/scripts/passwds |awk '{print $3}')}
echo "Recompiling Invalid Database Objects in the FLAG instance"
#This can be sustitued with generic code
$SQLPLUS flag_calls/$[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/ops/rom/recompile.sql
$SQLPLUS flag/$[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/ops/rom/recompile.sql
$SQLPLUS flag_wh/$[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/ops/rom/recompile.sql


-recompile.log 
Recompiling Invalid Database Objects in the FLAG instance
Message file sp1.msb not found
Error 6 initializing SQL*Plus
Message file sp1.msb not found
Error 6 initializing SQL*Plus
Message file sp1.msb not found
Error 6 initializing SQL*Plus



What could be broken ??
The script runs correctly from comand prompt.


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RE: cannot create bitmap index "feature not enabled"

2002-03-20 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: cannot create bitmap index "feature not enabled"





Forget my previous reply regarding query_rewrite privileges  - I misread it as a FBI question not a BMI one - enough of these TLA

BFN!


John 


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It's only available in Enterprise Edition, see docs at


http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_library/817_doc/server.817/a76962/ch4.htm#52939


-Joe


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RE: cannot create bitmap index "feature not enabled"

2002-03-20 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: cannot create bitmap index "feature not enabled"





Try granting the query_rewrite and query_rewrite_enabled (check spelling first) privileges to the user


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Hi All,


Oracle 8.1.6 SE


I tried to create a bitmap index and but get feature not enabled. This
cannot be only available in EE. Is there some script I need to run to
enable creation of bitmap indexes. I have searched MetaLink but see no
restrictions.


Thanks
Rick



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RE: More info on sql query running slow

2002-03-20 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: More info on sql query running slow





The query in itself seems quite well optimised in my opinion, although 30 seconds does seem quite long relative to what is possible. 

What I do not understand is why the query uses the PCON_CMPY_FK index on the PHY_CONTRACTS
table when that field (company_id) is not the obvious one to be queried. I would have expected to see it using the PK
by searching on PHY_CONTRACT_ID.


Does a index on all 3 columns, in the same order as the query help matters?


John


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Hi All,
Oracle 8.1.6


I have 2 tables which have been analyzed. The query takes about 30+ seconds
to run.  If I run it many times it is faster as data gets loaded into
buffer
cache. I want to optimize when that is not the case.  All the fields in the
query have a separate index created EXCEPT for
ACCRUED_AND_PAID.hold_payment_flag.


Phy_Contracts has 10,466 rows.
Accrued_and_Paid has 820,919 rows.


Here is output from explain plan


SELECT STATEMENT   Cost = 1382
  SORT AGGREGATE
    NESTED LOOPS
  TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID PHY_CONTRACTS
    INDEX RANGE SCAN PCON_CMPY_FK
  TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID ACCRUED_AND_PAID
    INDEX RANGE SCAN ADPD_PCON_FK


Any ideas what I can do to speed this query.


SELECT   COUNT(a.phy_contract_id)
FROM accrued_and_paid a, phy_contracts b
WHERE    a.hold_payment_flag = 'Y'
AND  b.phy_contract_id   = a.phy_contract_id
AND  b.company_id    = 16
AND  b.contract_type = 'IC';


List of single column index on PHY_CONTRACTS
INDEX_NAME COLUMN_NAME
-- -
PCON_CONTRACT_TYPE_IDX CONTRACT_TYPE
PCON_CMPY_FK   COMPANY_ID
PCON_PK    PHY_CONTRACT_ID


List of single column index on ACCRUED_AND_PAID
INDEX_NAME COLUMN_NAME
-- --
ADPD_PCON_FK   PHY_CONTRACT_ID



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RE: Oracle Certification Upgrade 8 to 8i

2002-03-20 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Oracle Certification Upgrade 8 to 8i





Manoj
I am in the same situation and looking at the IZO-020 exam as well.
It is 8 that is due to retire , IZO-020 is an 8i exam.


You have plenty of time to take the exam.


John


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Subject: Oracle Certification Upgrade 8 to 8i



Dear all,


I have Oracle8 DBA certification.


To upgrade there is following exam.


1Z0-020 ORACLE 8I: NEW FEATURES FOR ADMINISTRATORS



Oracle announced : Oracle8 OCP Track Retirement
As of March 31, 2002



Do anyone of you know if they will
also retire 
1Z0-020 ORACLE 8I: NEW FEATURES FOR ADMINISTRATORS
on March-31-2002?


If that is the case I will have to
complete this exam by Mar-31-2002.



Please let me know.


Also please advise me on good study material and
useful resources/links for this Upgrade Exam.


Thanks
Manoj
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RE: Identification of tables NOT being used in the System.

2002-03-18 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Identification of tables NOT being used in the System.





There was a note previously on a similar theme which I have posted below.
The dba_tab_modifications does not show when a table has been selected from which could be a problem for reference data type table which can easily be overlooked.

+ Previous notes
Tony is thinking along the same lines I was. Go ahead and capture the
outlines and then querying the DD where the indexes aren't found in the
OL$HINTS.HINT_TEXT column could tell you what indices haven't been used.
Something like:


select i.owner, i.table_name, i.index_name
from dba_indexes i, outln.OL$HINTS h
where index_name not like ('%'||hint_text||'%')
  and owner not in ('SYS','SYSTEM','PORTAL30','DES6I')


Just add the schema's to exclude. Only as good as the code coverage from
your collection timeframe but still seems like a pretty solid approach.


Anyone tried this? I've kicked it around but have never actually tried it in
anything other than a test environment.


Regards,


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Another option you have if your Oracle version is high enough is to use
Stored Outlines.  Enable automatic generation of stored outlines for a full
processing cycle as defined by the application (full month, Qtr, etc.)  Then
extract all of the indexes used during that cycle from OL$HINTS.HINT_TEXT
(i.e.. WHERE HINT_TEXT LIKE 'INDEX%'). If all of your application code has
been traversed in the cycle then this list will be pretty darn close to real
usage.  Even if you can't wait until year-end processing, you can eliminate
the bulk of code to be mined for embedded SQL and focus on those once-a-year
programs.
HTH
Tony Aponte
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Hi
I there any view which can tell us which indexes are not in use?
Thx
-Seema




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ALTER TABLE tablename MONITORING;


Every three hours or so, the SYS.DBA_TAB_MODIFICATIONS view gets updated
with the tables UPDATEs, DELETEs, and INSERTs, as well as wether or not the
table has been TRUNCATEd since the last time it was DBMS_STATS'd.  The view
also gets updated on a SHUTDOWN, except for SHUTDOWN ABORT.  I believe that
if there's no activity on the table you set for MONITORING, that there will
not be a row for it in this view.


And if you use CBO, you'll want to save the rows from DBA_TAB_MODIFICATIONS
to your own table before using DBMS_STATS.  It will zero the counters in the
view for the tables it's run against.


Also, there's very little overhead, at least according to Oracle.


HTH!  You might want to look this up in Metalink or the Oracle docs, too.
Enjoy!  :)



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In our production database environment, I have a list of about 1000 tables
,for which we want to find if these tables are being used by anyone. How it
can be done. One of the ideas is that we start database auditing on these
tables for a considerable period of time say one month. Then for those
tables for which there is nothing in database audit, we assume that tables
are not being used. For this option I would like to know if we put auditing
on these 1000 tables, how much extra burden it is add onto the system (CPU,
Memory etc). We are using Oracle 8.1.6 on HP-UX 11.00. 
If there are some other alternatives, please let me know.
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RE: Fav. Urban Legend...

2002-03-13 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Fav. Urban Legend...





Patrice,


Given the current state of the job market I am not sure if this is myth or fact 


John
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That as Oracle software becomes larger, fewer DBAs are required.


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oh man, mine has to be what is probably Jeremiah's as well:


the myth that Oracle doesn't write to the database files when you are
in hot backup mode



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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???





There have been a few posts today which are repeat posts from a few days ago


-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???



Is it just me, or am I having a slight case of de ja vu here ;P


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No version numbers, and no O/S details.
Cary Millsap mentioned to me a little while
ago that on one of his linux platforms the
values you got from timed_statistics seemed
to be a very good random number generator ;)


Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment
in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing
for that reason.




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|Well here's what's curious...
|Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash.
|Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to
|447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries.
How can a
|
|session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear???
Why are
|there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even
been up
|that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in
V$SESSION. The
|sql
|address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view
|supposed to behave this way?
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RE: Time for a reorg?

2002-03-13 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Time for a reorg?





Having a sulk Mark?  :-)


There may be a number of factors involved here 


1) Database well designed and managed and reorganisation does not become a problem
2) Regular use of alter table move and rebuild index reduces/removes the need to reorg
3) LMT and well sized tablespaces reduces/removes the need to reorg
4) As systems get bigger it is harder to find the outage therefore tend not to bother
5) Overtime is reduced at a lot of sites  therefore less inclination to work out of hours for free
6) Disk is faster, more cpu etc so negative impact on performance is not as noticeable


I think all of the above have some truth in them


I think it hard to define hard and fast guidelines because of the individuality of each site and the requirements of each database, combined with the availability and cost of resource to implement reorgs.

Don't you sell any of these reorg tools?. If so how do they calculate whether they are needed or not?


HTH


John



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Subject: RE: Time for a reorg?



Wow - does nobody reorg databases anymore? ;P


Thanks for all your help guys.. I'll take that as a cue to put some time
aside..;0P


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Does anyone have any "set limits" to know when it would be time for object
reorgs?


Firstly, I *know* that the reorg issue is viciously guarded on two sides -
those that say reorgs should be done, and those that argue that they are
unnecessary in todays environments. I agree with both sides ;P And don't
intend this to break out the debate for the nth time..


What I am really after is guidelines from people to their own views of when
a reorg is deemed necessary. Things such as percentage of rows that are
chained/migrated, or number of extents, or number of extents as a percentage
of maxextents or whatever..


Anybody come up with a really cool script that evaluates this - instead of
me re-inventing the wheel? I could do this - I just don't really have the
time at the moment - so your input is greatly appreciated!


Thanks in advance


Mark


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RE: RE: Time for a reorg?

2002-03-13 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: RE: Time for a reorg?





Thanks Dick,
I think what you are saying ties in exactly with my post on the matter 


John


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Subject: Re:RE: Time for a reorg?



Yes, I think databases still get reorg'd today.  It is just that our definition
of a reorg and a database I think are changing.  In the past if you said you
were going to reorg a database that a full export, possibly a rebuild and an
import.  Way too time consuming for today's 24x7 requirements.  Today I think we
reorg at the object or schema level, not the entire instance.  BTW, I think our
definition of a database is also changing from the entire instance to a single
schema.


Dick Goulet


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Date:   3/13/2002 3:38 AM


Wow - does nobody reorg databases anymore? ;P


Thanks for all your help guys.. I'll take that as a cue to put some time
aside..;0P


-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Does anyone have any "set limits" to know when it would be time for object
reorgs?


Firstly, I *know* that the reorg issue is viciously guarded on two sides -
those that say reorgs should be done, and those that argue that they are
unnecessary in todays environments. I agree with both sides ;P And don't
intend this to break out the debate for the nth time..


What I am really after is guidelines from people to their own views of when
a reorg is deemed necessary. Things such as percentage of rows that are
chained/migrated, or number of extents, or number of extents as a percentage
of maxextents or whatever..


Anybody come up with a really cool script that evaluates this - instead of
me re-inventing the wheel? I could do this - I just don't really have the
time at the moment - so your input is greatly appreciated!


Thanks in advance


Mark


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RE: Poll & Questions

2002-03-13 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Poll & Questions





I agree the work involved in creating a representative subset of data , complete with full RI in place can be quite significant. I know there are tools in place that do some of the work (Checkmate by BitybyBit and Quest have one  - data factory I think) but these also require significant input and knowledge of the schemas.

More importantly is the performance testing aspect. I have never seen a production system that has been implemented without some unknown/unexpected bottleneck because code has not been tested with realistic volumes. I know there are options available to asisst these days  (outlines and stats to name 2) but a full size dev database is not the overhead it may seem. Disk is cheap , time is not. 

John


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Tracy - 75 gb is nothing.  Lets see: dba hourly rate to create test from data subset of production vs. cost of 75gb disks?  Hmm, seems like a no brainer.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/02 05:43PM >>>
We currently have a production, system and development database here.  The
system and development databases are purged periodically and reloaded with
lookup data.  The developers are then responsible for entering transactional
data in both regions.  I am looking to follow the same practice for
development, however I would like to clone my production database directly to
the system test database.  The production database is ~75G.  Management does
not want to commit $ to a full sized system database.  Costs outweigh the
benefits.  I would like to sway them.  HOW?  Please give me your costs/benefits
of doing this.  In addition, what is the norm (if there can be one) in other
shops.  Does utopia exist?


ps.  One of the biggest reasons for this database would be for benchmarking,
timings, stress-testing.  I realize I can copy the production stats, but that
won't give me a good execution time.  Do others load a subset of data (say 25%)
and then extrapolate to a total time?  Is that even necessarily accurate to do?
I have my doubts.  Thanks



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RE: Free scripts

2002-03-13 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Free scripts 





I use Tim Onion's site which has a comprehensive listing of basic DBA scripts and there is also a zip file to download the lot in one go.

www.timonions.com


John


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I try to find some scripts (PL/SQL package) to monitor my oracle database
such as tablespace, rollback segment, etc.  Does someone know a website that
has this?


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RE: problem in creating control file?

2002-03-12 Thread Hallas John



Are you sure the sid is 
set to the new sid (TEST2) and also add a SET command in the first 
line
CREATE CONTROLFILE SET 
DATABASE "TEST2" RESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG    
 
HTH
 
John

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  problem in creating control file?
   
  I try to clone my database . I have the datafiles on D:\yedek123 and want 
  to create the control files . 
  What I do is : 
  set oracle_sid=new_sid
   
  svrmgrl internal/
  startup nomount pfile=new_pfile
   
  CREATE CONTROLFILE  DATABASE "TEST2" RESETLOGS 
  ARCHIVELOG    MAXLOGFILES 32    
  MAXLOGMEMBERS 2    MAXDATAFILES 254    
  MAXINSTANCES 1    MAXLOGHISTORY 1815LOGFILE  
  GROUP 1 'D:\yedek123\REDO01.LOG'  SIZE 1M,  GROUP 2 
  'D:\yedek123\REDO02.LOG'  SIZE 1M,  GROUP 3 
  'D:\yedek123\REDO03.LOG'  SIZE 1MDATAFILE  
  'D:\yedek123\SYSTEM01.DBF',  'D:\yedek123\RBS01.DBF',  
  'D:\yedek123\USERS01.DBF',  'D:\yedek123\TEMP01.DBF',  
  'D:\yedek123\TOOLS01.DBF',  'D:\yedek123\INDX01.DBF',  
  'D:\yedek123\DR01.DBF'CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P9;
   
  But When I run the create control file script , I am encountering the 
  error below.
  CREATE CONTROLFILE  DATABASE "TEST2" RESETLOGS 
  ARCHIVELOG*ORA-01503: CREATE CONTROLFILE failedORA-01161: database 
  name TESTDB in file header does not match given name of 
  TEST2ORA-01110: data file 1: 'D:\yedek123\SYSTEM01.DBF'
  TESTDB is the original database . 
  TEST2 is new DB. 
   
  What is the problem ? 
  Thank you.
   
   
   
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RE: local partition index question

2002-03-12 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: local partition index question





This subject nicely raises an question(s) I have.


We have some tables complete with PK and FK's referencing them. We have now added a create_timestamp column to the tables and wish to partition the tables using the range (create_timestamp). No problems. 

However we canot create a PK index because, as you state Cherie, the PK does not contain the column that we have partitioned on.

What workarounds are there. I can create a unique index on the PK columns (name,id for example)but it also affects the FK that other tables use to reference this table.

How do other people sites work around this


John



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Yes, that is true.  I've seen that to be the case in our warehouse
database.


Cherie Machler
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Hi all,


I am new to partition and I was told the following statement and
I couldn't verify it in the doc.  Could someone please tell me if
it's true or not?


"The partition column must be included in the primary key for the resulting


unique index to be locally partitioned."


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RE: Number / 0

2002-03-05 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Number / 0






Sinardy


You are trying to create a function based index. To do so you need the query rewrite privilege
The index will still fail with a divide by 0 error (don't know why you are dividing by zero) 



AS USER 
create index wrong_logic on john(income/0)  *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01031: insufficient privileges


AS SYS
SQL> connect internal
Connected.
SQL> grant query rewrite to user;


AS USER
SQL> create index wrong_logic on john(income/0);
create index wrong_logic on john(income/0)
   *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01476: divisor is equal to zero



 1* create index wrong_logic on john(income/4)
SQL> /


Index created.


HTH


John


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Subject: Number / 0



Hi guys,



This is my test:



SQL> desc emp
 Name  Null?    Type
 -  

 EMPNO NOT NULL CHAR(3)
 NAME   VARCHAR2(10)
 INCOME NUMBER(5)


SQL> create index no_logic on emp(income);


Index created.


SQL> drop index no_logic;


Index dropped.


SQL> create index wrong_logic on emp(income/0);
create index wrong_logic on emp(income/0)
   *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01031: insufficient privileges




I don't understand why Oracle throw such exception (reply).
Do you have any idea what is Oracle doing when Oracle find out number / 0




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How's the job market - UK - (slightly OT)

2002-03-04 Thread Hallas John
Title: How's the job market  - UK  - (slightly OT)





Here in the UK it has been pretty bad but from all accounts I understand there to be a bit of light at the end of the tunnel

As I have just been given notice I would appreciate anyone on the list in the UK or Europe who knows of DBA vacancies to get in touch

Thanks


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RE: vxfs File System full - it's not, and it's not Oracle (I don'

2002-03-01 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: vxfs File System full - it's not, and it's not Oracle (I don't think)





David,
Why does the SA say it is an Oracle issue? 
The error message shown refers to a LV that is full (allegedly) that happens to contain some files owned by the oracle user.

Sorry if I am being a bit dense but I am doing my best :-)


John



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think)




My sysadmin is complaining about an Oracle(?) error on our HP9000, HP_UX
v11.0, running three Oracle 8.1.7.0 instances.  His error message is as
follows:


vxfs: mesg 001: vx_nospace - /dev/vgt001/lvol1 file system full (1 block
extent)


This file system has my /u001/app/oracle.. OFA compliant stuff
on it.  A df -k shows me the following:


qe2l1:oracle /u001/app/oracle/admin/sasidist/bdump>>df -k .
/u001  (/dev/vgt001/lvol1 ) :  7096543 total allocated
Kb
   1729572 free allocated
Kb
   5366971 used allocated
Kb
    75 % allocation
used


Nothing in any of the alert logs, the databases are up and functioning with
several hundred users logged in and working away.  The sysadmin has told
damagement that it's Oracle's fault the backups aren't working (I don't
trust the tape setup, and let them think they're backing up the DBs, but
backups are run to disk and they get the compressed TAR'd result on tape -
I hope).  I have my doubts, but am thinking the error might have something
to do with OmniBack, absent Oracle.


Metalink doesn't have anything on this, and there are some questions I've
found on Google, but no answers yet.  Any input (well...almost any input)
would be appreciated


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RE: Function based indexes

2002-02-27 Thread Hallas John



Sergey,
 
I did 
a quick test which indicates that no special path is mentioned when using a FBI, 
instead the execution plan will show that an index is being used, which it would 
not do if a FBI had not been set up.
The 
example below shows what I mean
 
HTH
 
John
 
 

  SQL> create index john_idx1 on 
  john(spid_type);
  SQL> select spid_type from john 
  where upper(substr(spid_type,2,1)) = 'Y'
  SQL> /
  SPID_TYPE
  ---
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
   
  Execution Plan
  --
  0 SELECT STATEMENT 
  Optimizer=CHOOSE
  1 0 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 
  'JOHN'
   
  SQL> drop index 
  john_idx1;
  Index dropped.
  SQL> create index john_idx1 on 
  john(upper(substr(spid_type,2,1)));
  Index created.
  SQL> analyze table john compute 
  statistics;
  Table analyzed.
   
  SQL> select spid_type from john 
  where upper(substr(spid_type,2,1)) = 'Y';
  SPID_TYPE
  ---
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  Symphony 
  8 rows selected.
   
  Execution Plan
  --
  0 SELECT STATEMENT 
  Optimizer=FIRST_ROWS (Cost=7 Card=96 Bytes=
  1344)
  1 0 TABLE ACCESS (BY 
  INDEX ROWID) OF 'JOHN' (Cost=7 Card=96 By  
  *FBI in 
  use
  tes=1344)
  2 1 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) 
  OF 'JOHN_IDX1' (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=1 C  
  *FBI in 
  use
  ard=96)
   
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Function based indexes

Hi, everyone,
This may seem very simple to you, 
but what's the best way to see if a fresh FBI (sorry!) is used during the 
execution? Are they reported in the same manner to the SQL trace as other ones? 

Regards,
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RE: Pinning Packages in the Shared Pool??

2002-02-26 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Pinning Packages in the Shared Pool??





John,
I understand this still to be true or at least I have never heard anything to oppose it.
Looking at the latest book I have purchased (101 Performance Tuning) the authors do talk about the principle and state 
"many database administrators recommend pinning the key system packages as soon as the instance starts"  which whilst not written in the style of the 10 commandments does imply that they see no reason not to.

There is also a warning to balance what you load against the likelyhood of ageing other objects quicker as there is less free memory to use.

So all in all I would continue to pin large, frequently used objects subject to sufficient space in the shared_pool.


Someone else recently asked if that is the case why don't Oracle automatically pin some of these packages. I think that is a fair question but I suppose the argument against is that Oracle have no idea how much memory you have available on the server and how much you allocate to Oracle and then how much you allocate to the shared pool and so it is safer to leave it to the DBA who knows the system to manage it.

HTH


John


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Hi all,


There used to be a piece of wisdom that indicated that you should
pin Large, frequently used objects in the shared pool at startup of
the database where large was defined as > 5000 bytes.  


Is this still true


There was also a list of  "Oracle Packages" that were recommended
to be pinned. That included diutil, dbms_sql, dbms_utility, and standard.
Is this still good advice?


Thanks,
John


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RE: ORA-27072

2002-02-25 Thread Hallas John



Have a 
word with your sysadmin. See if I can find out what/who is using that 
file
Are 
all datafiles/control files and redo log etc owned by the same user (Oracle) and 
with the same permissions
Seems 
odd that it appears to be random across a number of files
 
HTH 

 
John

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  ORA-27072
  Hi all..
   
  My database is going down frequently  
  showing this error in alertfile . This  is happening to different 
  datafiles and controlfiles.
  What are the possibilities that cause this error 
  ? How can i avoid this error ?
   
  oracle 8.1.7 in win2k 
   
   
  Errors in file 
  C:\oracle\admin\acusis\bdump\acusisCKPT.TRC:ORA-00206: error in writing 
  (block 3, # blocks 1) of controlfileORA-00202: controlfile: 
  'D:\ORADATA\CONTROL01.CTL'ORA-27072: skgfdisp: I/O errorOSD-04008: 
  WriteFile() failure, unable to write to fileO/S-Error: (OS 33) The process 
  cannot access the file because another process has locked a portion of the 
  file.
   
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RE: SQL Loader:How to load data with carriage return embedded

2002-02-25 Thread Hallas John



Arul,
Interesting problem. We had a similar situation and used 
AWK instead after a bit of head-scratching.
The 
following code worked for us
 

  BEGIN{
      
  FS="`"
      
  first=0
  }
  {
      if 
  (substr($1,1,3)=="KB0"){  
  -- to identify each new record which starts with those 
  letters
      if 
  (first==1)
      
  printf("\n")
      
  printf("%s", $0)
  }
      
  else
      
  printf("%s", $0)
      if 
  (first==0)
      
  first=1
  }
  END{
      
  printf("\n")
  }
I am still interested in a sqlloader resolution to this 
problem if anyone else has one
 
John

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  SQL Loader:How to load data with carriage return 
  embeddedHi DBAs, 
  I have a flat file with Varchar2 data spread across lines with carriage 
  return.. 
  I have tried using the following but in vain. 
  =  LOAD DATA  INFILE 
  'test.dat' "str X'0c0a'"  INTO TABLE arul.test1 FIELDS 
  TERMINATED BY "~" optionally enclosed by '"' trailing nullcols ( 
  no    , descr ) 
  = 
  where descr - Varchar2(4000) field.. 
  There is no error message(!)?? 
  Note - With the above spec. able to load only the first record with 
  carriage returns embedded. Rest of the records are skipped as bad records(!) . 

  Can anyone suggest the ways of loading it thru SQL Loader? 
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RE: 8i and Veritas NetBackup

2002-02-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: 8i and Veritas NetBackup





The folloiwng is a good post from Samir which I kept. It seems to cover your environment well. Hope it helps John


Hi,


In order for RMAN to work with a third party backup product the third party
vendor writes an interface to an Oracle supplied API and supplies this in
the form of a library.
Oracle supplies a default copy of the library as $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so
which has the RMAN default functionality of writing to disk only.
Installation of an RMAN media management product logically replaces this
library. How this logical replacement is done depends on several Oracle
documents and one netbackup document, most of which contradict each other.
As long as it is clear how the library is logically presented to Oracle it
doesn't matter how it is done.
The library that Oracle currently uses can be established by executing:
ldd $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle
This will list the libraries linked to the Oracle executable, specifically
libobk.so.
The Veritas supplied file is called libobk.so.1. Oracle thinks it is called
libobk.so, which it looks for in LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Therefore a soft link is
needed from libobk.so somewhere in LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the Netbackup supplied
libobk.so.1. This can be done with:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib:
and then either:
ln -s /opt/openv/netbackup/bin/libobk.so.1 $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so
or:
cp /opt/openv/netbackup/bin/libobk.so.1 $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so.1
ln -s $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so.1 $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so
Other combinations of these links are obviously possible, but the important
thing is to be consistent. With several ORACLE_HOME's the former is
preferable, the latter becomes more relevant if a version dependency had
been discovered between RMAN and Netbackup such that each ORACLE_HOME needed
a different copy of the library.
Additionally, Oracle 8.0.5 statically links the library into the Oracle
executable, so once the executable is relinked it doesn't matter what
happens to the original library file. At 8.1.6 however the library is
THEORETICALLY dynamically linked and so always depends on finding a copy on
LD_LIBRARY_PATH. A bug in 8.1.6 (1252142) means this dynamic linking does
not work and the library still has to be statically linked to the Oracle
executable. The bug is fixed at 8.1.7.


Hope this helps.




Hi Listers,


I have a question regarding using 8i RMAN with Netbackup 3.4.
I remember on 8i one no longer needs to relink the oracle executable
when intergrate with a 3rd party backup software.  All I have to
do it change the symbolic link $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so to point
to the media management library.


Now from the Netbackup 3.4 for Oracle manual, it says on Solaris
for 8.1.6, you need to relink the oracle executable by doing:


make -f ins_rdbms.mk ioracle LLIBOBK=-lobk


So the question is should I relink or not?


Thanks for your feedback.


Rich



Nice answer Samir. As an additional note... after linking I've used the 
sbttest utility from Oracle to verify a working installation. (We're using
Netbackup with Linux and have encountered problems which Veritas is 
working on.)


The sbttest program is nice but for complete backup installation testing I
believe in performing test recoveries. I've created small test databases 
on production servers and have scripted several recovery scenarios. For our 
current situation it turns out that we can get a successful backup but 
restores are a problem. Since backups aren't any good if you can't restore 
the backup is suspect. We can restore files from tape to disk but finishing 
the recovery requires getting out of RMAN and recovering from the SQL 
prompt. We can also restore from RMAN as long as we don't have more than 2 
commands in the run { commands... } syntax. Of course this could get quite 
tedious in a multiple datafile restore scenario so we're insisting that 
Veritas fix the communication problems between RMAN, Netbackup and our tape
robot.


So I guess the object lesson from all this is that, regardless of "apparent"


linking success, it pays to be anal and thorough when it comes to validating


your backup implementation and the best way to do this is to perform some
actual recoveries.


Hi Listers,


I have a question regarding using 8i RMAN with Netbackup 3.4.
I remember on 8i one no longer needs to relink the oracle executable
when intergrate with a 3rd party backup software.  All I have to
do it change the symbolic link $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so to point
to the media management library.


Now from the Netbackup 3.4 for Oracle manual, it says on Solaris
for 8.1.6, you need to relink the oracle executable by doing:


make -f ins_rdbms.mk ioracle LLIBOBK=-lobk


So the question is should I relink or not?


Thanks for your feedback.


Rich



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Is anyone using this combinat

RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!





Mark,
Here are a couple of notes I saved on the subject


John


rmjvm.sql doesnot remove all the components properly. If your resources sizes are ok, then try following.
 
If for any reason the installation fails then $ORACLE_HOME/javavm/install/rmjvm.sql has to be run. Unfortunately it does not remove all the components. Following workaround has to be used to get over the bugs.

1. Restart the database.


2. Start a different session other than the one that started the database.


3. Run initjvmaux.sql


4. Run rmjvm.sql


5. Run following SQL queries, LOG on as SYS.


--The minimum action to remove JIS trigger is running the following sql.


drop trigger JIS$ROLE_TRIGGER$;


delete from ducs$ where owner='SYS' and pack='JIS$INTERCEPTOR$' and proc='USER_DROPPED';


delete from aurora$startup$classes$ where classname='oracle.aurora.mts.http.admin.RegisterService';


delete from aurora$dyn$reg;


.


Are you sure its hanging.  Documents have said it can take up to an hour and its that statement
that tends to take the longest.  I have seen quite the variation in time depending on the system 
I am on.
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: initjvm.sql



Hi friends,
   I have problem during execution of initjvm.sql
 
The step's which i have followed.
 
1)Increased system tablespace 200 mb
2)increased the shared pool size 50mb
3)increased the java  pool size to 50mb
4)ran rmjvm.sql
5)initjvm.sql
 
While runnig initjvm.sql the script hangs while i get the
statement create or replace java system;
 


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Sent: 22 February 2002 11:08
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!



Ahh well!


I have another question following this:


I am also getting the following error on startup:


Fri Feb 22 09:33:04 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","joxs heap init","ioc_allocate_pal")


Fri Feb 22 09:33:10 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","joxs heap init","ioc_allocate_pal")
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JAVA", line 216
ORA-06512: at line 2


Completed: alter database open


This is because I set the java_pool to 0 in my init file (we don't use
anything java related against our databases). Does anybody know how to
disable or de-install java from the database? I've taken a look at the
jvmrm.sql in RDBMS/Admin:


-- Remove some portion of the Java related data dictionary objects


-- This script must be run as a subscript of a script which sets the
-- variable jvmrmaction.
-- Possible values are
--  FULL_REMOVAL:    remove all java related objects


But can't find anything of a script that will call this? Anyone have any
ideas?


Cheers


Mark (Why do I bother?) Leith


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Mark
The ora600 lookup  tool on Metalink states that there is no description for
this code
John
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Hi Ladies and Gents,
I installed 9.0.1 on to my Win2K machine yesterday, and whilst installing an
un-named monitoring tool against it this morning, the instance crashed with
a bunch of ORA-600's in the alert log. Below are the two that appeared,
though the first turned up about 10 times concurrently:
Fri Feb 22 09:22:28 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [26599], [1], [190], [], [], [],
[], []
Fri Feb 22 09:22:34 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [150], [], [], [], [], [], [], []
Anyone ever seen these before? I'm not going to call support as this is only
a sandbox database, so please don't tell me to call them or log a tar.. I
have enough to do today already! :(
Any feedback on these is, however, much appreciated!
Thanks
Mark
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RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!





Mark
The ora600 lookup  tool on Metalink states that there is no description for this code
John
-Original Message-
From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 February 2002 09:34
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!



Hi Ladies and Gents,


I installed 9.0.1 on to my Win2K machine yesterday, and whilst installing an
un-named monitoring tool against it this morning, the instance crashed with
a bunch of ORA-600's in the alert log. Below are the two that appeared,
though the first turned up about 10 times concurrently:


Fri Feb 22 09:22:28 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [26599], [1], [190], [], [], [],
[], []


Fri Feb 22 09:22:34 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [150], [], [], [], [], [], [], []


Anyone ever seen these before? I'm not going to call support as this is only
a sandbox database, so please don't tell me to call them or log a tar.. I
have enough to do today already! :(


Any feedback on these is, however, much appreciated!


Thanks


Mark


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RE: OPS DBA work (was dumb question)

2002-02-05 Thread Hallas John
Title: Message



Bjorn, 

I 
don't have any issues with what you say - in fact it really agrees mostly with 
what I stated. You have added 2 important factors though, better application 
knowledge and use of raw file systems.
I use 
Compaq Tru64 so that does not require raw files systems but other o/s certainly 
do.
 
I 
think you were a bit unfair to suggest that I meant you 
only needed to check a few init.ora parameters out  ( 'it is far more than 
knowing the GC_ parameters' ). I am fully aware of the need to look at freelists 
and freelist groups  -  I encompassed that in my statement 

'Management and tuning of internode communication. 
Specifically reducing the level of pinging  - use of GC% init.ora 
variables'
 
Anyway 
I don't think we are that far away from each 
other
 
Regards
 
John
 
 
 
 -Original Message-From: 
Bjørn Engsig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 05 February 20021
 2:25To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
OPS DBA work (was dumb question)
With the caveat, that I am a consultant and not actually a 
  DBA, I would argue very strongly, that the OPS DBA needs quite some extra
  understanding, knowledge and experience compared to one managing a single
  instance Oracle.  In particular:- Performance problems, primarily 
  due to poor application design/development, that are seen in single instance 
  are likely to be one to two orders of magnitude worse in OPS.  Hence, the 
  DBA needs a much better application understanding.- There are Oracle 
  features (e.g. free list groups) that must be used with OPS and which rarely 
  are needed single instance.- Recovery scenarios are more 
  complex- You must use raw devices (except on platforms with inhertance 
  from Digital Corp), which can add complexity- A frequent requirement 
  of OPS systems is better uptimes than for single instance, which is a very 
  non-trivial task.  The whole stack is far more complex, and even though 
  the possibility to have two or more independent nodes sound really great in 
  theory, the practical assurance, that they are in fact completely independent 
  is difficult.  And if they aren't independent, they are likely to have 
  worse uptimes than the single instance! - And I probably forgot 
  something, so it is far more than knowing the GC_ parameters, which, BTW, by 
  itself isn't that simple!- Also, BTW, note that except for a few
  things, RAC doesn't make your life easier than OPS!Thanks, 
  Bjørn.Shreeni wrote:
  





 
Hi 
John,
 
Thx for 
the input. I really appreciate it. I was just kind of stumped when I was 
asked not once but several times and places, to point out the diff between 
an OPS DBA and a "regular" DBA that I am.
 
Thanks 
again
 
Shreeni
Shreenivasa 
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  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf 
  Of Hallas JohnSent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:05 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  OPS DBA work (was dumb question)
  Shreeni,
   
  The mangement of a OPS system does not require 
  any extra skills or facilities. Areas that are different or need more
  attention from a standalone instance include the following 
  :
   
  Management and tuning of internode communication. 
  Specifically reducing the level of pinging  - use of GC% init.ora 
  variables
  Requirement for different start up scripts
  (exclusive and shared modes)
  Some additional work when duplicating databases 
  using RMAN
  Perhaps more involvement with application and sys 
  admin teams to determine load balancing factors
   
  I am sure there are others (probably ones I 
  should be doing that I am not)
   
  
  The simplest thing to remember about OPS is that 
  there is only 1 set of datafiles and therefore tables, despite the number 
  of instances that may be using those datafiles. This point is 
  occasionally made to those whob elieve that we have a fully
  resilient set up.
   
  HTH
   
  John
  
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RE: How to find out what caused job to fail?

2002-02-04 Thread Hallas John
Title: How to find out what caused job to fail?



How 
bizarre. 
Roland 
asked a question about where does he find alert log & trace files 

 
(answer  = select 
name,value from v$parameter where name like '%dest%') or check your init.ora 
file
 
at least 10 minutes before this message came to me. I 
have noticed before that I can post a message that I see on the list in about 20 
minutes , at other times it can be well over an 
hour.
 
It can be quite frustrating because you see a message 
and post a reply and then see 5 other responses at least 30 minutes before 
your's appears
John

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  RE: How to find out what caused job to fail?
  Hi, 
  you can find the reason in alert log or trace files.
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, February 
04, 2002 4:40 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: How to find out what caused job to 
fail?
Hi! 
Is there a way to find out, why a database job 
failed? in dba_jobs (or user_jobs), I can only see that it failed, but no 
indication of the reason why it failed. Any ideas?
This is 8.1.7 on Solaris. 
Thanks, Helmut 

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OPS DBA work (was dumb question)

2002-02-04 Thread Hallas John
Title: Message



Shreeni,
 
The 
mangement of a OPS system does not require any extra skills or facilities. Areas 
that are different or need more attention from a standalone instance include the 
following :
 
Management and tuning of internode communication. 
Specifically reducing the level of pinging  - use of GC% init.ora 
variables
Requirement for different start up scripts (exclusive 
and shared modes)
Some 
additional work when duplicating databases using RMAN
Perhaps more involvement with application and sys admin 
teams to determine load balancing factors
 
I am sure there are others (probably ones I should 
be doing that I am not)
 

The 
simplest thing to remember about OPS is that there is only 1 set of datafiles 
and therefore tables, despite the number of instances that may be using those 
datafiles. This point is occasionally made to those whob
 elieve that we have a fully resilient set 
up.
 
HTH
 
John

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 04 February 2002 
  00:40To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Dumb question
  Hi 
  List,
   
  To ask a 
  dumb question, is there any special way to run exp/imp on Oracle Parallel
  server on Solaris ?? Is parallel server DBA different than a "regular" DBA ?? 
  :)
   
  TIA
   
  Shreeni
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RE: Rman again. Long screen output removed/SOLVED

2002-01-30 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Rman again. Long screen output removed/SOLVED





Jack,
We are on 8.1.7.1 on Compaq Tru64 (5.1) and we are sure that we have done both a duplicate database and a restore using PITR

(format to_date('18-SEP-2001 01:00:00','dd-mon- HH24:MI:SS')"; 


I am not really in a position to retest at the moment but we are reasonably certain. What bug no is it and on which platform

John



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Hi All,


It was an Oraclebug.


The only , very workable, workaround Oracle could come up with is to set
NLS_DATE_FORMAT at Unix level and use :
set time until 'string';  (STRING BEING IN THE FORMAT OF NLS-DATE_FORMAT AT
UNIX LEVEL)


9.0.2 is supposedly fixed.



Jack





Hallas John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 30-01-2002 10:25:18


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Jack,
Your date format is
 set until time  'to_date
(''29012002094700'',''ddmmhh24miss'')';
whereas one that works for me and matches the documentation is
 set until time "to_date('18-SEP-2001 01:00:00','dd-mon-
HH24:MI:SS')";



Note the difference in quotation marks which is what the RMAN error message
refers to



Try my format and see what happens



HTH



John




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Hi,



That only works if the format mask is set correctly, ergo not very
flexible.






Jack








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Hello Jack



The RMAN command  recover database;
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RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL)

2002-01-30 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL)





Kevin, 
I am afraid your post shows a distinct lack of ambition. :-)
No flames please
John


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Don't stop posting. I'm not a DBA either. Don't have any intention of being
one. I'm an Oracle duhveloper (as people sometimes point out..LOL). I read
this list to get a better understanding of how databases 'hang together'. I
never profess to being an expert in DBA related stuff...I'm far, far from
that.


-Original Message-
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Thank you all for your kind replies, and I now definitely know the correct
answer to this.


Please let me reiterate that I am *not* yet an Oracle dba.  I've only been
to one class so far, for crying out loud!  Obviously it would be better for
me to just not post for a while, in any event.


No need to keep on responding to this thread.


Cheers,
JoJo



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Walt
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I strongly suggest you not experiment with this on your production database.


--Walt


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I'm a complete newbie, so I may be off-base here, but I believe that
truncating a table does not delete any data from the table.  It moves the
cursor up, thereby closing up the "empty space" where data has previously
been deleted.


--JoJo



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To our resident Oracle Expert who just 6 months (July 26 2001) ago posted
the following e-mail



If I remember rightly, deleting rows from the table does NOT free up
tablespace. In order to do that you have to trunctate the table (although
this of course deletes all data from the table)...I can't for the life of me
remember how you adjust the space the table is actually using after doing a
delete...(to everyone else) would an analyze work?


Kev.
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Alter system check datafiles

2002-01-30 Thread Hallas John
Title: Alter system check datafiles





Paul Sherman wrote 'I tried an 'alter system check datafiles' 


I had never come across that command before and looked at the documentation which states that 'in a distributed database system, such as an Oracle Parallel Server environment, updates an instance's SGA from the database control file to reflect information on all online datafiles'. Global actions against all nodes , local against the current instance only.  

I did check out the OPS install/config guide but did not found anything more in there. I was failing to understand in which circumstances the command would be required, knowing that we are running a number of OPS set ups and I had never used it. Looking further on Metalink I found the following note (Note:1071756.6)

When running "ALTER SYSTEM CHECK DATAFILES" it delivers a "STATEMENT PROCESSED" 
but there is no recorded activity. There is no alert file even though the book says there is. 
 You can do an ALTER SYSTEM CHECK DATAFILES if the database is only mounted. 
But the command does not return an error if a datafile is missing.
Solution Description:
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The ALTER SYSTEM CHECK DATAFILES command was designed to solve a
particular problem of file accessibility.  This most often has to do
with OPS, and disks that are shared among several machines.  There are
cases where a disk may be accessible on one machine, but not another,
because of configuration or OS problems.
Imagine that you have a datafile that is marked OFFLINE.  If the disk
where that datafile lives is accessible to a particular machine in an
OPS installation, then you can bring it ONLINE.  If, however, another
machine can't get to that disk at the time you bring it ONLINE, then
that instance won't be able to verify the datafile.  Hence in that
instance, the controlfile will have the datafile listed as ONLINE, but
the datafile still will not be properly accessible and entered in the SGA.  
Explanation:

The ALTER SYSTEM CHECK DATAFILES command was designed to allow
you to correct the problem from the OS perspective and make the disk
accessible. This would then trigger the instance into recognizing this fact,
verifying the datafile, and thereby making it available to Oracle in that instance.
So the command does not quite do what might be implied by the current
documentation.  It does not verify access to all online datafiles,rather, 
it only looks at those that are now online, but which were not previously 
verified.  Once a datafile has been verified, it is considered verified for all
time, until you OFFLINE the file or until the database is dismounted in that 
instance.


I hope someone founds that useful, at least I have learnt a bit more by checking it out.
Thanks Paul for mentioning it, if only in passing.


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RE: Web site of messages

2002-01-30 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Web site of messages





I also found this site by searching Google for Oracle-L
http://faqchest.dynhost.com/prgm/oracle-l/


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> Hi,
>
> Is there a website, which keeps all the messages posted to this forum,
which
> can be accessed without subscribing to the forum?
>


try http://www.fatcity.com/ListGuru/my.php and
http://www.mail-archive.com/oracle-l%40fatcity.com/


hth,


    Marin



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RE: Rman again. Long screen output removed

2002-01-30 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Rman again. Long screen output removed





Jack, 
Your date format is 
 set until time  'to_date(''29012002094700'',''ddmmhh24miss'')';
whereas one that works for me and matches the documentation is 
 set until time "to_date('18-SEP-2001 01:00:00','dd-mon- HH24:MI:SS')";


Note the difference in quotation marks which is what the RMAN error message refers to


Try my format and see what happens 


HTH


John


    
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Hi,


That only works if the format mask is set correctly, ergo not very
flexible.



Jack





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Hello Jack


The RMAN command  recover database;
is changed to be recover database until time '1999-03-05:11:33:00';




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RE: auditing tables

2002-01-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: auditing tables





Auditing is a definite overhead but the degree varies depending on what auditing is set up and how many transactions you have.

Auditing can tell you who did what to a table (IUD etc). What it will not do is store before and after values.
If that is what you want then triggers are required. Obviously if a new record is going to be written to an audit table every time a record in the master table is changed then that can cause significant database activity which will have an overhead on performance and possibly space as well depending on the volumes.

Another workround could be to use Logminer to check what a user has done and when. This is perhaps more suitable for a one off security check that a method of tracing every change by any user at any time.

Realy it is a matter of negotiating requirements v performance v implementation time/costs and identifying which solution (or mixture of the above) provides the necessary facilities

HTH


John



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Hi all,


does anyone have experience in using Oracle's possibilities of auditing
a database ??


I am interested in performance questions i.e. is it a hughe loss of
performance
when auditing tables Inserts/Updates/Deletes. Should I use triggers instead
?


any hints (comments, websites, etc...) are welcome.


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RE: Unix script

2002-01-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Unix script





Basis of a script added into yours below. Note I am only checking to see if there is a PMON proces up - maybe best to make a sqlplus connection and read v$instance or something and exit if it fails.

Really very poor but will give you something to work on.


What I don't see from your sample script is the end marker for the << ! command
I normally use  << EOF and then at the end of the sql statements I have a line with EOF in. I do not see your ! marker


To get a log file call the shell script and > to log_file or set that up in your cron routine


HTH 


John



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Hallo,


I have this unix script. I would like to include code which checks if the oracle database is up and running so the procedure konto.fillbotables.anrop doesnt start at all.. I also want an errorlog file to be created. Please tell me how to write the

code and where to include it in this shell script.



#!/bin/sh
. /usr/bin/orasetup.sh
. /d31/appl/konto/bat/movefiles.sh


numberOfLines=`ps -ef|grep pmon wc -l`  grep for sid or ora_pmon_sid or whatever
if  [ $numberOfLines -lt 2 ]  # ie database not running
then 
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else 
fi



sqlldr userid=konto/icakort control=/d31/appl/konto/bat/ehbgrupp.ctl
log=/d31/appl/konto/log/ehbgrupp.log
sqlplus -s konto/icakort << !
set heading off
set verify off
set feedback off
set termout off
set pages 0
begin
konto.fillbilbotables.anrop;
END;
/
EXIT


fi





sqlldr userid=konto/icakort control=/d31/appl/konto/bat/ehbgrupp.ctl
log=/d31/appl/konto/log/ehbgrupp.log
sqlplus -s konto/icakort << !
set heading off
set verify off
set feedback off
set termout off
set pages 0
begin
konto.fillbilbotables.anrop;
END;
/
EXIT




Thanks in advance



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RE: RMAN and ORA 8.1.7 on NT/W2K

2002-01-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: RMAN and ORA 8.1.7 on NT/W2K





Allen,
I am sure you can continue in the same manner as before if you wish. I am no NT expert but we are using hot backups on a variety of Unix and NT servers using 8.1.7. We also have some RMAN backups as well.

Carry on with the hot backups and then perhaps use RMAN on a test database until you are familiar with it


John


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I am looking at upgrading our ORA 8.0.5 databases to ORA 8.1.7.  In
preparation, I am reading the 8i administrators guide for NT.  Chapter 11,
Backing up and Recovering Database Files, states that one can use Oracle
Enterprise Manager DBA Management Pack, or Line Command RMAN, or OCopy.


Currently, we backup using a homemade batch file which varies the
tablespace offline, does a host copy, then varies the tablespace back
online.  We also copy the controlfiles, password files, etc...  The process
is continually tested and works.  We hotbackup daily and cold backup once a
week.


Anyway the question is whether I will be able to continue backing up a
8.1.7 DB the same way, or am I finally going to be forced into RMAN?




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RE: COPY vs. OCOPY on NT

2002-01-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: COPY vs. OCOPY on NT





Try http://www.speakeasy.org/~jwilton/oracle/hot-backup.html for a view on this


John


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I seem to miss something here.
We are talking about backups that run after: alter tablespace XXX begin
backup.
There are no writes to the tablespace in this situation.



Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> From: Thomas B. Cox [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject:  COPY vs. OCOPY on NT
> 
> 
> Your point is (I believe) that the Oracle data files are
> opened writeable by Oracle at instance startup time.  When
> you use the NT command "COPY" it will prevent additional
> writers, but not those writers that are already holding
> write locks.
> 
> My comments and questions are:
> 
> 1. This used to fail with an error in previous versions
> of Oracle and NT that I've worked with.
> 
> 2. I'd be curious if multiple DB writers could cause
> a problem with your setup.
> 
> 3. If a COPY fails/dies holding its lock, can I re-start
> either the COPY of Oracle without rebooting or manually
> clearing the lock?
> 
> 4. You have demonstrated that the statement "COPY will
> always fail" is false.  But we're not yet at "COPY will
> always work" -- and that could be a problem.
> 
> Cheers.
>  -Tom
> 
> 
> --- Igor Neyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Now, from my other message to the list (don't know, if Eric forwarded
> > it to
> > you), it answers your questions about my experience recovering from
> > online
> > backup and why I don't like MetaLink Note explanation in regard to
> > advantages of "Ocopy" versus "Copy":
> > 
> > 
> > Couple years ago, when we were preparing first release of our
> > product, I
> > read of course about "NT Copy" versus "Oracle Ocopy".
> > Still I decided to test it, because not always I trust what I read,
> > and I
> > like to get proof myself.
> > Testing of online ("hot") backup/recovery scenario showed, that using
> > "NT
> > Copy" command in backup scripts is perfectly fine, when creating
> > backup set
> > of files on the disk.  And there is no problem restoring from this
> > backup.
> > Now this "disk backup" set of files could be saved on tape, using
> > NTBACKUP
> > (that's the one, that really can not copy file, if it's opened by
> > some other
> > program.  But that's not the case with prepared in advance "disk
> > backup").
> > "NT Copy" has no problems copying files opened already by Oracle, and
> > backup
> > is consistent, as long of course as I am using "alter tablespace
> > 
> > begin backup" before copying relevant files and "alter tablespace
> >  end
> > backup" after finishing files copy.
> > So, those scripts (using "NT Copy") were put into production, and now
> > have
> > been used for more than two years on more than hundred
> > installations/sites
> > (the number keeps growing).
> > From time to time, our field engineers are bringing back to me sets
> > of
> > online (can not use "cold" backup - our systems should run 24*7, I'm
> > not
> > saying they are, but we are trying to minimize downtime) backed up
> > files (db
> > files and archived RedoLog files), and I recover them with no problem
> > (we
> > need this, to test how the upgrade to next release of our product
> > will run
> > against "real" customers data).
> > 
> > Now, about MetaLink Note:139327.1
> > It says:
> > 
> > Ocopy  opens the file using CreateFile() with the FILE_SHARE_READ and
> > FILE_SHARE_WRITE  flags. This allows writing to continue while we
> > take the
> > backup.  Inconsistencies in the backup are repaired by applying
> > archived
> > redo  during  recovery. The 'copy' command from NT doesn't use these
> > flags
> > since it  wants to  prevent writes to the file while the copy is
> > taking
> > place.
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think, it's very accurate, and here is why:
> > When during online backup I run "NT copy" against db file, the file
> > is
> > already opened by Oracle (at moment, when I "open" the database).
> > So, even if "NT copy" opens file without FILE_SHARE_READ and
> > FILE_SHARE_WRITE  flags, all it means is that "Subsequent open
> > operations on
> > the object will fail" (quote from NT docs).  I want you to notice, it
> > says
> > "Subsequent open operations" not "Subsequent write/read operations". 
> > So,
> > all it does is prohibiting some other program/process from "opening"
> > the
> > file.  But Oracle, as I mentioned, has this file already opened, and
> > it is
> > perfectly capable of reading/writing this file.
> > Of course, the image of the saved file will be "fuzzy", and that's
> > why when
> > recovering from online backup we are applying archived RedoLog files
> > (which
> > getting written much more intensely during onlin

RE: Query

2002-01-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Query





Short for machine


John


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What is: m/c ???



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> Can we have the multiple databases on the same m/c running at the same
> time.
> 
> thx
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RE: More Rman q's

2002-01-25 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: More Rman q's





Jack,


TEST3 instance should be exactly as you stated, an Oracle instance with no datafiles as yet.
What I think I was meaning regarding the names of the objects is that the format is


Rman catalogue = catalogue
Source database  = target
new database   = auxilliary.


To my mind that is wrong and the new database should be target. It is of no importance but I do think it can be confusing.

What is even odder is requirement to connect to the target database in the first place. A live database has been copied to disk/tape. We want to make a new copy on a development server. But we still have to connect to the original live database. I once had a reason from Oracle for this in a tar dialogue however it did not sound very convincing to me at the time.

John


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Hi,


Am I misreading all this, but should the auxiliary database be in existence
before I can Clone to it?


I created the init.ora and all directories and started TEST3 in nomount. I
created the password file and can connect to it with a connect string no
problem.


Another point is. Did you mean that the auxilliary database is the database
that needs to be cloned (source)?


Jack





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John and Jack,


  I guess I didn't read Jack's info closely enough, since he states that
his auxiliary database is already started nomount.  I wonder if the three
separate connect statements are the issue?  When I duplicate a database, I
use the following commands from the OS:


>rman target internal/xxx@original catalog rman/xxx@rman1 auxiliary /
rman>@prod_to_test
rman>exit


My ORACLE_HOME and SID are set for the auxiliary database.  I have started
the auxiliary database NOMOUNT, which basically just starts the background
processes.    Password files are required for the remote login (this is on
a different server).  I don't use db_file_name_convert or
log_file_name_convert, because I group the data files differently on this
server (I don't have the exact same number of file systems as production).
After I have RMAN started, I do the following:


run {
#set until time "to_date('0108200220','mmddhh24miss')";
set until scn 316498395;
#set until logseq 1389 thread 1;
allocate auxiliary channel ch1 type disk;
set newname for datafile 1 to '/u03/oradata/BSCST/system01.dbf';
set newname for datafile 2 to '/u03/oradata/BSCST/rbs01.dbf';
...
...yadda yadda yadda...
...
set newname for datafile 49 to '/u04/oradata/BSCST/bill_image_data06.dbf';
set newname for datafile 50 to '/u04/oradata/BSCST/process_data03.dbf';
duplicate target database to BSCST
logfile
group 1 ('/u03/oradata/BSCST/redo1a.log','/u04/oradata/BSCST/redo1b.log')
size 2m,
group 2 ('/u03/oradata/BSCST/redo2a.log','/u04/oradata/BSCST/redo2b.log')
size 2m,
group 3 ('/u03/oradata/BSCST/redo3a.log','/u04/oradata/BSCST/redo3b.log')
size 2m;
}



Jay Hostetter
Oracle DBA
D. & E. Communications
Ephrata, PA  USA


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Jay,Jack
I don't understand here how RMAN connects to auxilliary when Jack seems to
be saying that the database does not exist it all.
When I tested a duplicate database session I made the following notes which
indicated I need a remote_login_password file setting up. I assume you
didn't do this then Jack as the database was not created at this point in
time
Please correct me if I  have misunderstood


John
My notes follow
+++


To allow this connection a remote_login_password file needs to be in place.
This can be created running the orapwd command


$ORACLE_HOME/bin/orapwd file$ORACLE_HOME/dbs/ orapwSID password = xx
entries=10


Then add the line remote_login_passwordfile=exclusive to the init.ora and
start the database in exclusive mode (using the initSID_excl.ora file in
the
pfile directory).
Ensure that this works by performing a sqlplus internal @tnsnames_alias
with
the correct password and ensuring that a connection has been made.


This needs to be set up on the target environment as well as on the
auxillary server. Ensure that a connection can be made both locally and
remotely


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RE: Re: How can I tell if a procedure/package is running?

2002-01-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Re: How can I tell if a procedure/package is running?





Sinardy,
This only tells you if an object exists not if it is running - or even if it is valid unless status is elected from dba_objects as well.

There was a thread around 30/10/01 with the appropriate title 'How can I tell if a procedure/package is running?'  - I am not sure if it is the same thread that we are on now. The following quote came from a reply by Steve Adams

You can look at the mode in which the stored procedure or package is pinned in the library cache. This information is in

X$KGLOB.KGLHDPMD. A value of 2 indicates that the object is pinned in shared mode by one or more sessions. If necessary,

you can join to X$KGLPN to find the sessions holding the pins. See "executing_packages.sql" at
http://www.ixora.com.au/scripts/misc.htm#executing_packages for an example.



HTH 


John



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Hi,


You can do


Select object_name, object_type, status
from dba_objects
where object_type like '%PACK%' or
    object_type like '%PROCE%'
order by 2,1;




Sinardy



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Can anyone give me a good example on how this works?
Thanks in advance


Roland









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Kopia:


I would say that the best way is in its coding
typically by adding calls to dbms_application_info -
which is great way of tying SQL to its owning PL/SQL
as well.


You might be lucky to catch it in sql_address in
v$session (depending on what its actually doing at the
time).  Similarly, you could possibly glean some info
from V$SQL via USERS_EXECUTING


You could always try modify the proc which would
probably hang on library cache pin or similar - hardly
a recommended way of course :-)


hth
connor


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> (for lack of doing what it does)..    I've heard of
> parse locks, is that a way?
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RE: Sqlloader

2002-01-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Sqlloader





See the following note sent on 4/12/01 - it should assist
John



Try the following example:


TMD=`date '+%Y/%m/%d'`
TMS=`date '+%Y%m%d%H%M%S'`
sqlplus -s internal <
set verif off pages 0 echo off feed off term off lines 200
spool $SHELLSRCDIR/dbcontents.$TMS.log
select  'alter database rename file '''||name||''' to '''||name||''';'
from    v\$datafile;
column member format a50
select 'alter database rename file '''||member||''' to '''||member||''';'
from
v\$logfile;
spool off
whisky



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Subject: Sqlloader



Hallo all you gurus,


Anyone who can help me with this:


I have this  unix script: In the script I wamt to create a logfile for every day that I run this script so that thel logfile will look like:

2002-02-22laddabsg.log
and when i run the script tomorrow I want it to be:


2002-02-23laddabsg.log


anyone who can help me to complete this unix script



This line executes the sqlloader command and it is this logfile I want to have the runningdate in too.


sqlldr userid=konto/icakort control=/d31/appl/konto/bat/laddabsg.ctl log=/d31/appl/konto/log/laddabsg.log




(See attached file: loadfast.sh)



Thanks in advance


Roland




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pinning objects

2002-01-11 Thread Hallas John
Title:  pinning objects







I wrote a database tuning document a while ago and the notes below are from the section on pinning. I do recall that the final comment re the difference betwen pinning and keeping was from a Steve Adams response to a question on this list.

The library cache forms part of the shared pool area. An important part of managing the library cache efficiently is to ensure that any frequently used packages are kept in the shared pool and not aged out. Oracle provides the dbms_shared_pool package to keep (or pin) packages, procedures, triggers and cursors. The object is never flushed out of memory until either an instance shutdown or it is explicitly unpinned. Objects that are accessed frequently are the best candidates for pinning. Pin packages as user SYS.

It is recommended that the following packages are pinned in memory at instance startup.


SYS.STANDARD
SYS.DBMS_STANDARD
SYS.DBMS_DESCRIBE
SYS.DBMS_UTILITY
SYS.DBMS_LOCK
SYS.DBMS_PIPE
SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT


The syntax to pin and then unpin a package is


EXECUTE DBMS_SHARED_POOL.KEEP ('sys.dbms_output');
EXECUTE DBMS_SHARED_POOL.UNKEEP ('sys.dbms_output');


1)  Note that when the shared pool is flushed (ALTER SYSTEM FLUSH SHARED_POOL) kept packages are NOT flushed out.
2)  Note that pinning and keeping are technically not the same. In the library cache a pin is a lock held by a particular session on one or more heaps of an object. With regard to the shared pool, a pin is a bitmap in the header of a recreatable chunk indicating whether it is eligible to be aged out or flushed from the shared pool. Library cache object heaps that are marked for keeping may not be pinned in either sense.

A script to identify suitable objects is :- 


Col owner format a10
Col name format a25
Set lines 200
Rem 
rem  Look for high number of loads 
rem
select owner,name,loads,executions,kept
from v$db_object_cache
where type like 'PACK%'
and loads > 1
order by loads
/



HTH 


John




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I am investigating pinning some of the developers packages into memory.


Could you please clarify how this is done. 


Also how can I identify which packages would beefit from pinning?


John


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RE: pinning objects

2002-01-11 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: pinning objects





I wrote a database tuning document a while ago and the notes below are from the section on pinning. I do recall that the final comment re the difference betwen pinning and keeping was from a Steve Adams response to a question on this list.

The library cache forms part of the shared pool area. An important part of managing the library cache efficiently is to ensure that any frequently used packages are kept in the shared pool and not aged out. Oracle provides the dbms_shared_pool package to keep (or pin) packages, procedures, triggers and cursors. The object is never flushed out of memory until either an instance shutdown or it is explicitly unpinned. Objects that are accessed frequently are the best candidates for pinning. Pin packages as user SYS.

It is recommended that the following packages are pinned in memory at instance startup.


SYS.STANDARD
SYS.DBMS_STANDARD
SYS.DBMS_DESCRIBE
SYS.DBMS_UTILITY
SYS.DBMS_LOCK
SYS.DBMS_PIPE
SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT


The syntax to pin and then unpin a package is


EXECUTE DBMS_SHARED_POOL.KEEP ('sys.dbms_output');
EXECUTE DBMS_SHARED_POOL.UNKEEP ('sys.dbms_output');


1)  Note that when the shared pool is flushed (ALTER SYSTEM FLUSH SHARED_POOL) kept packages are NOT flushed out.
2)  Note that pinning and keeping are technically not the same. In the library cache a pin is a lock held by a particular session on one or more heaps of an object. With regard to the shared pool, a pin is a bitmap in the header of a recreatable chunk indicating whether it is eligible to be aged out or flushed from the shared pool. Library cache object heaps that are marked for keeping may not be pinned in either sense.

A script to identify suitable objects is :- 


Col owner format a10
Col name format a25
Set lines 200
Rem 
rem  Look for high number of loads 
rem
select owner,name,loads,executions,kept
from v$db_object_cache
where type like 'PACK%'
and loads > 1
order by loads
/



HTH 


John




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I am investigating pinning some of the developers packages into memory.


Could you please clarify how this is done. 


Also how can I identify which packages would beefit from pinning?


John


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RE: login/exit problems

2002-01-09 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: login/exit problems





There was a problem with  Oracle Trace being set in some V7 instances. A couple of files grew quite large.
STOP PRESS just checked on Metalink and found note 45482.1 
This suggest checking the $ORACLE_HOME/otrace/admin directory for a file process.dat and see if it growing (recently written to).

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We have an Oracle 7.3.4 database that has been stable for a number of
years but has started having problems during logon and exit with both
sqlplus and remote logins. It hangs for up to a minute before connecting
to Oracle server after you get


$ sqlplus ***/***


SQL*Plus: Release 3.3.4.0.1 - Production on Tue Jan  8 19:06:28 2002


Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1996.  All rights reserved.  





and similarly following an exit from Oracle server after disconnecting 


Disconnected from Oracle7 Server Release 7.3.4.0.1 - Production
With the distributed, replication, parallel query and Spatial Data
options PL/SQL Release 2.3.4.0.0 - Production 





before returning to OS command line prompt


lsnrctl, tnsping, etc suggest port is okay. Stopping and restarting
database make no difference. Any advice or help will be much
appreciated.


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RE: Becoming a DBA questions

2002-01-07 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Becoming a DBA questions





Mark,
Why do you sound so  suprised Mark? £120 / hour - wouldn't get out of bed for that. 
As Lee says he is either very lucky, specialised or both.


Wherever the job is in the UK I will undercut by £10/hour :-)


John


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Mark,


Is this in the UK ??


Those sorts of rates were being bandied around a while ago but even some of
the better ones these days (and they are few and far between) are round
about the 70 per hour tops. Up here in the N.E that drops to something
around 50. Mind you they are about as rare as rocking horse dung !!!


Lee



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We actually heard in the office today that one of our contacts is currently
forking ?120 PER HOUR for an Oracle contractor that has experience on UNIX /
AIX based systems. This guy is working on a 40 hour per week basis - and the
cash is paid directly to him! He is supposedly a very competent DBA.


With this in mind:


Per week = ?4,800
Per Month = ?19,200
Per Year = ?249,600 ()


I know these numbers may not be "true" as this guys is a contractor, and may
not have 52 weeks of the year booked up - but..


For you guys an' gals in the US that equates to:


Per Hour = $172
Per Week = $6,900
Per Month = $27,600
Per Year = $358,775


Now THAT'S what I call making REAL money!


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Yeh, I thought wow as well
My question is this is it really possible to earn that sort of money as a
DBA in the US?, and no I aint looking for a job over there. Just curious if
this is total bull


We hear rumours routinely about salary levels in the US and they tend to
contradict themselves sometimes figures such as this and then sometimes a
lot, lot less. But then the same applies to the market here. There is
probably a couple of key DBA's in Sydney and Melbourne that are 6 figures
and then there is a lot of DBA's over here that earn more like midddle to
high 5 figure incomes. Sydney figures always are or should be higher



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200K US$ ??? Wow


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Lemme get this right.


This guy is a *new* DBA.  He's making 150k and he's not
even a senior DBA, where he can make 200k?


That's all from me.  I'm gonna go sulk now.


Jared





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RE: Criteria for handoff from development

2002-01-07 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Criteria for handoff from development





Taking a slight diversion away from data modelling issues a set of Production type issues need to be addressed prior to going live

These could include


Signed off user acceptance testing,
Backup strategy, devised, tested and signed-off
Expected performance targets and response times (part of an SLA really)
Signed off volumetric testing. Some of the major issues when going live appear when real volumes of data have been entered and a query that ran well against 500 rows in developmenbt does not do quite as well against 500,000 in live.

Network impact assesment
Data archiving and houskeeping routines agreed and tested
I am sure there are many others items that listers can supply


John




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I agree with the column naming comments.  I would find it hard to
over-emphasize the need for a column naming convention that allows you to
know what table a column belongs to, whether it's a primary or foreign key,
and ,if it's a foreign key, then what the name of the base table and column
are.  I also agree with the comments on choosing a primary key.  If the
database is never going to by synched with an outside database then the
best choice for a primary key is a sequence generated number.


Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about normalization problems if
they're deliberately done.  It's easy to gong developers over
normalization, but sometimes a denormalized table is necessary for
performance.  In fact, if the data model is perfect 3rd normal form then
you'll probably have to do some denormalization.


All that being said, it's silly to have the developers present you with a
data model.  You should have been involved in developing the data model
from the very beginning.  But life, or management, is always presenting us
with new "opportunities."  Good luck.




   
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Dennis,


First of all, I would tell your manager that 90% of tuning is in writing
good queries no matter what the data model looks like.


Unfortunately, you receiving a data model and expecting to perform miracles
is pretty naive of the organization.  This is a classic example of how NOT
to do things.


Saying that, I would look closely at the model and check for the following:


Look closely for normalization problems.  If you see repeating fields in a
table, reject it and tell them to change it.


Look for column-naming standards.  If they do not have them, make some up
and enforce them.  Some common naming standards would use a suffix to
indicate the type of data the column is holding.  Things like _DATE _NBR
_FNAME _LNAME _ID and _CODE would indicate date, number, standard length
first and last name, Id type columns indicating it is a primary key
(possibly) an integer value, and a Code column indicating that this is a
foreign key to another table.  This is s important for report-writing
people on the back-end of the project.  They can implicitly see that the
column has a certain value by the name.


Ask how they determined primary key values for all tables.  Specifically,
how do they KNOW that the values will be unique.  Question everything you
see.  This is probably the biggest area of concern that I would have.
Non-db designers will always make a mistake here.  I developed a db once
that used the soc-sec as the pk.  WRONG!  The db was at a college.  Want to
know how many parents use thei

RE: Problem Granting Roles

2002-01-02 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Problem Granting Roles





What exactly is the error message - if it is table or view does not exist (ORA-904) then I suspect that it is synonyms that are not working/created.

get the user to select from the full table name sys.x and see what happens.


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I granted myself roles via SYS.  I have another user on our server (W2000 /
8.1.7) and I have gone through the same process of granting the new user
roles via SYS.  However, when she connects to the DB she gets the message
that the objects don't exist.  The owner of the DB is me.  What am I doing
wrong?  Should I grant her roles from my user name or from SYS?


Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion Lead 
Sufficient Systems, Inc. 
Minneapolis, MN


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RE: XP Professional & 9i

2001-12-31 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: XP Professional & 9i





I think it is our problem actually because the majority of questions you ask could be answered quite easily by looking at the manual or using Metalink.

Is your company just a one or 2 man band or is it a reasonably sized company. If so I would have thought that having Oracle support was a  necessity rather than a nice to have.

I once turned down a contract at a company because they did not have 24 hour support and I was expected to do out of hours support for which any call was made would be charged for. I and I am sure many others have got into a situation where we are on our own/tired/stuck/confused whatever and a call to support has been very helpful, not just for the answer but more as someone to talk to, ensure that you are not about to do anyuhing stupid (too late for me :-)). 

Knowadays there is a lot more on-line resource available and this list is getting better all the time but I personally think Metalink is invaluable both for resolving immediate problems and digging deeper into areas of interest.

John


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Jared:


We are not on MetaStink because my company won't pay for it.  It's their
problem not mine.


Ken


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That brings rise to the question "Why aren't you
a member of MetaStink?"


Have you purchased Oracle Support?  If so, you likely
have access to MetaLink.  If not, you need to.


You'll never be able to successfully implement an Oracle
based application on 9i without support.  You at least need
to have access to patches.


Jared


On Saturday 29 December 2001 06:25, Ken Janusz wrote:
> We are not a member of metastink.  I looked at OTN an it's only certified
> up to W2000.  So, I was wondering if anyone knew if it is cert. for XP
> Prof. or when it will be?
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
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>
> Ken, go to metalstink and look for the certification matrix.
>
> joe
>
> Ken Janusz wrote:
> > Will 9i run on XP Professional client?  And, no I am not interested in
> > putting Linux on my home PC at this time.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Janusz, CPIM
> > Database Conversion Lead
> > Sufficient Systems, Inc.
> > Minneapolis, MN
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RE: Exp / Imp Utility Questions

2001-12-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Exp / Imp Utility Questions





1) You cannot have read the docs to well not to know the answer to Q1
Hint  - look at the ignore parameter to imp
2) It all depends if the triggers have been run once to change the data that is now in the conversion db.
You may have a trigger that adds 1 to a field. If the data has been populated into a table with the trigger enabled it will have  value of field + 1. If you then import the data into your test db with a trigger enabled it will action the trigger and the field will then have the value of field +1 +1. Remember import is only a fancy way of typing insert into for each row of data

3)  As you say, it is a test database, experiment with a couple of tables and find out the answers for yourself. That is the best way of learning

John




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I'm doing a DB conversion to 8.1.7 on W2000.  I have converted the old
tables / data to the new application on my conversion server.  Now I have to
load it onto a test server at a different site.  I will be using tables=
parameter to a select group of tables / data.  I have not found the answers
to my questions in the documentation.


    1. Can I use Exp / Imp to just move the data?  Or, does this utility
move the data and the table structures?


    2. The conversion DB that I have only has the tables, PK's, FK's,
and indexes and no triggers, functions, cursors, etc. (they are created by
another script).  There is no application code attached to this DB.  The DB
I will be loading to is fully functional - all the PK's, FK's, triggers,
functions, et al.  Will loading the data from my conversion DB cause
problems with the test DB?


    3. I know I will have to disable the FK's on the test DB.  But, what
about the triggers on the applicable tables?  Should they be disabled?


    Anything else I need to know before I get rolling on this?


    Thanks,


    Ken Janusz, CPIM 
    Database Conversion Lead 
    Sufficient Systems, Inc. 
    Minneapolis, MN



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RE: online backup help

2001-12-24 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: online backup help





Jain,
This is not really an Oracle issue, rather a sys admin one. 
Hot backup is Oracle method of ensuring that a datafile can be copied whilst still in use. So just issue the command to put it into backup mode, backup the file by whatever means and then take the datafile out of backup mode.

You will have to experiment as to whether you can secure files to a remote tape device. If you have a locally mounted tape drive you should not have a problem at all. If you have not it may be best to copy the datafile(s) (when in backup mode) to a disk drive and then copy them to tape later.

John 


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Subject: online backup help




Dear All,
We are in the planning/testing stage right now. I wanted to know if it is possible to backup the Oracle database online, i.e. at the time Oracle database is running. This is also called hot backup. If yes, do I have to install the backup tape device to the same server where the Oracle is installed? Or can I install tape drive to any other server and from there also can I take online/hot backup of the oracle database?

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Jain Anand 


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RE: unused blocks BELOW HWM - Thanks

2001-12-19 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: unused blocks BELOW HWM - Thanks





I agree with your reasoning Dennis. I have long felt that one of the problems with the list is that the original raiser of the question should have some sort of responsibility for summarising the various responses and posting a short summarised reply showing the solutions(s) that worked for him/her

This type of question where various solutions were proposed is the ideal candidate for this type of summarised response. I used to be on a Unix list and that strategy was used quite well there.

John


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Naaah, I'm just the proverbial lazy DBA. Gene received many replies,
including "it can't be done". Since he happened to point out that two of
them worked and produced the same results (an excellent sanity check), I
thought it would benefit everyone by telling us which ones worked. I realize
that we could have each tried each of the strategies and discovered the two
for ourselves, but my principle is if there is an easier way, why not?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Uh, amen. Isn't that the purpose of the list?


Or is there a *third* list, one "on topic", a second 
"off topic", and a third where all the answers really
are?


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Gene - Now that you've gotten your answer, would you mind to post both of
the methods that you found to work so that the rest of us could learn?
Thanks.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi.


This is just to thank all who replied to my post.
Based on what I read, I have got two different ways of
calculating that number and they seem to produce the
same result. 


thank you all (you know who you are)



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RE: Deinstalling JServer

2001-12-17 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Deinstalling JServer





Cherie - see the post below from sunilshivappa -  12/11/01 
John


+++
rmjvm.sql doesnot remove all the components properly. If your resources sizes are ok, then try following.
 
If for any reason the installation fails then $ORACLE_HOME/javavm/install/rmjvm.sql has to be run. Unfortunately it does not remove all the components. Following workaround has to be used to get over the bugs.

1. Restart the database.


2. Start a different session other than the one that started the database.


3. Run initjvmaux.sql


4. Run rmjvm.sql


5. Run following SQL queries, LOG on as SYS.


--The minimum action to remove JIS trigger is running the following sql.


drop trigger JIS$ROLE_TRIGGER$;


delete from ducs$ where owner='SYS' and pack='JIS$INTERCEPTOR$' and proc='USER_DROPPED';


delete from aurora$startup$classes$ where classname='oracle.aurora.mts.http.admin.RegisterService';


delete from aurora$dyn$reg;


 


Regards,


sunil s.
+++
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Cherie,


I'm not entirely sure, as I've never done this before - but there is a
package in ORACLE_HOME/RDBMS/ADMIN called utljavarm.sql, which seems to do
the kind of thing you want. Maybe there is another that fits your needs
better, as this one has a warning note about only using it to
upgrade/downgrade to 8.1.5..


Rem
Rem $Header: utljavarm.sql 12-jan-99.17:10:39 rshaikh Exp $
Rem
Rem utljavarm.sql
Rem
Rem  Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1999. All Rights Reserved.
Rem
Rem    NAME
Rem  utljavarm.sql - Remove all java objects
Rem
Rem    DESCRIPTION
Rem  This removes all the java objects from the data dictionary.
Rem
Rem    NOTES
Rem  WARNING:  This script is highly destructive.  It should
Rem     only be run if you upgrading to or downgrading
Rem     from 8.1.5.  Once this script is run all of your
Rem     java objects will be gone unless you have a backup!!!
Rem
Rem  This script requires a significant amount of rollback
Rem  to execute.
Rem
Rem    MODIFIED   (MM/DD/YY)
Rem    rshaikh 01/12/99 - Created (for mjungerm)
Rem


Hopefully the list can point to one that fits your needs more precisely.


Regards


Mark


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Does anyone know how to deinstall JServer?   I accidentally installed it
and I don't
see anywhere in the documentation where it talks about how to remove the
objects
from the database.   This is for Sun Solaris 2.6 Oracle version 8.1.7.2.


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Thanks,


Cherie
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