RE: AW: off topic: anyone form Amsterdam, Holland / other major e
I had a friend who mistakenly left her purse on a bus stop bench somewhere in Switzerland (I'm not sure of the city). By the time she'd realized it and gotten back to the bus stop, 4 hours had passed. Her purse was still there, with everything and all the money still in it. Cheers!, JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L e You're in for a surprise Rachel, The Swiss are well known jokers. Switzerland is often called the prank capital of Europe. Ladies toilets are labelled Gentlemen. Gentlemen's toilets are labelled Kodak moment photo opportunity. Cars drive on the left side of the road except for blue cars wich must drive on the left. Dogs and cats are, by convention, dyed red during the summer. BTW I lost my sunglasses in Switzerland in 1994 so if anyone found them can they get in touch. Mike PS You can probably tell that I'm between coffees right now. -Original Message- Sent: 11 June 2002 17:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L europ If you don't know local conventions ANYWHERE, you will be surprised however, now I'm curious. just what happens? --- Jan Pruner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicht nur in Zurich. No, they aren't. But if you don't know conventions in Switzerland you will be surprised. :-) JP This email and any attached to it are confidential and intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please let us know by telephoning or emailing the sender. You should also delete the email and any attachment from your systems and should not copy the email or any attachment or disclose their content to any other person or entity. The views expressed here are not necessarily those of Churchill Insurance Group plc or its affiliates or subsidiaries. Thank you. Churchill Insurance Group plc. Company Registration Number - 2280426. England. Registered Office: Churchill Court, Westmoreland Road, Bromley, Kent BR1 1DP. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hately Mike INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Question re Oracle E-Mailing
Hi all, I was just wondering if this e-mail was for real, or is it something bogus. I was specifically wondering, since it's an HTM file being sent as an attachment. I've never seen something like that come from a legit company and was curious. I didn't bother to open the attachment, since I don't have these running on my computer anyway. Thanks, JoJo * Server/Oracle Reports (No text in body of message) Attachment: File: metalink.htm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: AW: off topic: anyone form Amsterdam, Holland / other major e
All depends on the area. Now that's an understatement !!! :D --JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:51 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It could have happened in America, too. All depends on the area. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I had a friend who mistakenly left her purse on a bus stop bench somewhere in Switzerland (I'm not sure of the city). By the time she'd realized it and gotten back to the bus stop, 4 hours had passed. Her purse was still there, with everything and all the money still in it. Cheers!, JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Index Constraint
Come on, you guys. If you don't want to answer somebody's question, all you have to do is Delete the e-mail. You really don't have to respond rudely. You don't even have to say rtfm. You could NICELY point out, your best bet is the manual. You know what? Sometimes for us newbies, the manuals just aren't clear. We looked and couldn't figure it out. Does that make us stupid? Maybe, maybe not. What do you care? This forum is for answering questions. I won't post questions to this forum anymore (I decided that a long time ago). I read others' postings and see what I can learn from them. I really get sick of the arrogance. I'm a newbie in Oracle, but I expect decency from others. I'm not a newbie in other areas, and I answer others' questions politely, even the most basic questions. That's what the forum is for. If you're too important and/or too busy to answer basic questions, then just don't answer them. Click that delete key. Why do you care so much? Get over it (your own self-importance). YUCK. --(Mrs.) JoJo Al-Zawawi Glendale, California -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hamid, First, I don't think it's high class to misspell my name intentionally (you did it more than once). Second, rtfm is best advice, you can get, when asking such generic questions, which show your unwillingness to do your home work and which could (and should) be investigated first using documentation, published books. Now, I can call the f@#$% manual, whatever I want, I guess it depends on the quality of the particular manual :-) Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Alavi Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 6:31 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Igore, I didn't expect even in this group you can find such low class people If you want to use these sort of words please keep it for yourself. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L rtfm Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:46 PM Hi List, What's the diffrent between unique constrint unique index, when we have to use which, I think both are the same. Any Idea? And what about normal index reverse index? when we have to use normal and when reverse index, I think Reverse index normaly using for FK index, Is it right or not? Thanks Hamid Alavi Office 818 737-0526 Cell818 402-1987 === Confidentiality Statement === The information contained in this message and any attachments is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are prohibited from copying, distributing, or using the information. Please contact the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the original message from your system. = End Confidentiality Statement = -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hamid Alavi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Igor Neyman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). === Confidentiality Statement === The information contained in this message and any attachments is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are prohibited from copying, distributing
RE: Index Constraint
Running To Find Mama. Just kidding around, JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Igore, rtfm is a very complex answer, please reply clearly!! -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L rtfm Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:46 PM Hi List, What's the diffrent between unique constrint unique index, when we have to use which, I think both are the same. Any Idea? And what about normal index reverse index? when we have to use normal and when reverse index, I think Reverse index normaly using for FK index, Is it right or not? Thanks Hamid Alavi Office 818 737-0526 Cell818 402-1987 === Confidentiality Statement === The information contained in this message and any attachments is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are prohibited from copying, distributing, or using the information. Please contact the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the original message from your system. = End Confidentiality Statement = -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hamid Alavi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Igor Neyman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). === Confidentiality Statement === The information contained in this message and any attachments is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are prohibited from copying, distributing, or using the information. Please contact the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the original message from your system. = End Confidentiality Statement = -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hamid Alavi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the Dallas area..
It's pretty funny what some people have bookmarked! :D JoJo -Original Message- | Joan Miro, Man and Woman in Front of a Pile of Excrement | (Homme et femme devant un tas d'excrements), 1935 97/8 x 125/8, | Joan Miro Foundation, Barcelona http://www.complit.fju.edu.tw/project/project3/miro3-a.htm ( http://www.supersphere.com/Zinetropa/Article.html?ID=Angry_ThoreauanNAME=mi ro ) --- On 31 May 2002 at 7:33, Whittle Jerome Contr NCI wrote: I have a stable work history! As a teenager I worked at a race track cleaning out stables. Some of those skills and the working environment translated well into being a DBA. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Database backup question.
Paul, Haven't you seen Austin Powers ? $ 1 million isn't very much these days. You need to up your rates. Cheers, JoJo -Original Message- R. Mladen, It's not my fault. My karma was in the wrong quadrant as I read Jared's e-mail, and to make matters worse, the universal constant had become inconsistent. However, I do have all the answers that you seek. Simply send $1 million and I will reveal all. Thank you, Paul Sherman -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: newbie seeks career direction: become a DBA or DEVELOPER?
Hi Sherry ! I understand that Washington Mutual often hires entry-level Oracle DBA's. Try them! Cheers, JoJo (Glendale, CA) http://www.jojo-zawawi.com -Original Message- Lopata Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi gurus, I have taken a few Oracle DBA courses at UCLA Extension, passed my first DBA certification exam, but have not been able to find an entry level position in this area. (My background is in printing and marketing... big career move... I've been told my timing is bad cause the job market is bad here). It was suggested to me, by someone at the LA Oracle User Group meeting, that I become an Oracle Developer first. Is this the path you recommend? Although I liked the UCLA classes, I was dissappointed that the Career Center was off limits to the Extension students. Can you suggest any better/cheaper classes in Southern California? Any with career placement? I have acquired many of the books that have been suggested in these postings and have learned much by being a subscriber to this mailing list. Thanks in advance! SL -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?
ROFL -- this whole thread has kept me cracking up all morning !!! -- (Mrs.) JoJo :D -Original Message- Paul R. Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more; Men were deceivers ever; One foot in sea and one on shore, To one thing constant never; Then sigh not so, But let them go, And be you blithe and bonny; Converting all your sounds of woe Into. Hey nonny, nonny. Sing no more ditties, sing no mo, Or dumps so dull and heavy; The fraud of men was ever so, Since summer first was leavy. Then sigh not so, But let them go, And be you blithe and bonny, Converting all your sounds of woe Into. Hey, nonny, nonny. Thank you, Paul Sherman DBAElcom, Inc. email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Presentation for Beginners!
Awesome, I'll be checking these out ! --JoJo -Original Message- Edward Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:33 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's the slides! SQL/PL-SQL http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~melody/courses/Spg2001OraclePLSQL/PLSQL8iPPTS/ Default.htm Architecture and Admin http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~melody/courses/Fall2001CSCI379/TOC.html Performance Tuning http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~melody/courses/Spring2002PerfTune/TOC.html Backup and Recovery http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~melody/courses/Spring2002Backup/BackupPPTS/les 01_files/v3_document.htm http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~melody/courses/Spring2002Backup/BackupPPTS/les 02_files/v3_document.htm http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~melody/courses/Spring2002Backup/BackupPPTS/les 03_files/v3_document.htm And here's a gal after my own heart! http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~melody/ Thanks Melody!!! Ed -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Good SQL/PLSQL Reference Book ?
Thanks everyone for your replies! Cheers, JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How come I don't get postings
Title: How come I don't get postings I got your posting. By the way, I've noticed that when I post, it often takes several hours before my post shows up. I often get replies to my own posts long before I see my own post showing up. Cheers, JoJo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:43 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: How come I don't get postings Guys, Please someone tell me if you can see me on this list. I just subscribed and got the welcome message but no messages from this list. Thanks, Paula
Good SQL/PLSQL Reference Book ?
Hi folks, I'd like a recommendation for a good SQL/PLSQL *reference* book (not a how to but a good reference). Please don't tell me to go to Oracle's site (I did that already) -- I want a book! :D Thanks in advance!, JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What is truth?
I just took 5 months of classes (oracle dba). The entire focus of the classes was to get the students to pass the exams -- we were told that everyone forgets it all afterwards since anyway who can memorize it all? Use the reference materials on the job like real people. (Hey, I've been programming for years, and I still look stuff up when I need to. I didn't memorize every single syntax around.) But the exams ask all kinds of ridiculous memory questions. So the classes were geared towards that. However, the teachers were always happy to answer any questions, whether on the exams or not. --JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 15:53, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: I took an Oracle class recently and was shocked to find that generally the attitude was pointed toward passing the exam. If you asked a question that was not aimed at clarifying understanding for the class, the teacher wasn't very interested in responding. I can see the point after all, don't confuse the other participants. Dennis, Sorry to see you had an instructor like that. Both classes I've taken, the instructors we very open to answering more in depth questions. If time was a factor they were more than willing to discuss the questions during breaks, lunch. -Brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Haas INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Gold Support
country. --JoJo -Original Message- Robert Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't understand this the product (the RDBMS) can be downloaded for FREE from oracle.com.the doc's are free to look at at technet.oracle.com, including specific platform install guides which contain product requirements (as seen here) http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/doc_library/90111install/reqs.h tm#1195223 All the requirements are freely available. While I think it was terrible that your sales folks didn't know what these requirements were, I think it is inaccurate to say that you were made to purchase anything. All the info is freely available... in fact a google search for Oracle9i Memory requirements found me plenty of information. I think you bear some responsibility in this as well. Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L They made me purchase customer support before they would even tell me the system requirements for 9i (which I had already purchased, including a personal 2-year license). It turns out that I need to buy more memory and can't install the product. That tee'd me off ! I couldn't get a salesperson anywhere to tell me the requirements, and it definitely wasn't on the product info pages on their site. --JoJo -Original Message- Robert Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anyone else just slightly irritated with the level of customer support offered for phone callers to Oracle now days? Used to be, that if you were a gold customer as we are, you could almost count on instant first line support. Last week I called and was told that a phone call would result in at least a one hour delay in an analyst call back, whereas an iTar (lie tars I call em) will get me about 30 minute response. The representative was rude and snarly to me at the same time. Is this how Larry wants to save that second billion, crappy customer service? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from
RE: Oracle Gold Support
://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Gold Support
. The representative was rude and snarly to me at the same time. Is this how Larry wants to save that second billion, crappy customer service? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
RE: Oracle Gold Support
). It turns out that I need to buy more memory and can't install the product. That tee'd me off ! I couldn't get a salesperson anywhere to tell me the requirements, and it definitely wasn't on the product info pages on their site. --JoJo -Original Message- Robert Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anyone else just slightly irritated with the level of customer support offered for phone callers to Oracle now days? Used to be, that if you were a gold customer as we are, you could almost count on instant first line support. Last week I called and was told that a phone call would result in at least a one hour delay in an analyst call back, whereas an iTar (lie tars I call em) will get me about 30 minute response. The representative was rude and snarly to me at the same time. Is this how Larry wants to save that second billion, crappy customer service? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
RE: Oracle Gold Support
They made me purchase customer support before they would even tell me the system requirements for 9i (which I had already purchased, including a personal 2-year license). It turns out that I need to buy more memory and can't install the product. That tee'd me off ! I couldn't get a salesperson anywhere to tell me the requirements, and it definitely wasn't on the product info pages on their site. --JoJo -Original Message- Robert Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anyone else just slightly irritated with the level of customer support offered for phone callers to Oracle now days? Used to be, that if you were a gold customer as we are, you could almost count on instant first line support. Last week I called and was told that a phone call would result in at least a one hour delay in an analyst call back, whereas an iTar (lie tars I call em) will get me about 30 minute response. The representative was rude and snarly to me at the same time. Is this how Larry wants to save that second billion, crappy customer service? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Gold Support
At the time, I was brand-spankin' new to Oracle, and didn't even know technet existed. I was looking at the product info pages where you purchase products (which usually at least show system requirements when you click on the more info button type of thing). Since I couldn't find the data there, I called Sales, who could not help me... they assured me that they were sure my system was up to snuff (with 192 megs RAM). When I tried to install, it bombed repeatedly and had to be manually uninstalled each time. I couldn't get any help whatsoever at all unless I purchased service, at which time they told me simply that I needed more memory (256 megs). Even buying service was a pain in the behind -- apparently it's a new thing that you can buy service after buying the license, and the service sales dept didn't know about this. Don't forget that they also entered 2 separate invoices for the license and charged my credit card twice (at several hundred bucks a pop). That was a whole other story, getting that fixed up. With 40,000 employees, I found that dealing with Oracle was like dealing with a small country. --JoJo -Original Message- Robert Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't understand this the product (the RDBMS) can be downloaded for FREE from oracle.com.the doc's are free to look at at technet.oracle.com, including specific platform install guides which contain product requirements (as seen here) http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/doc_library/90111install/reqs.h tm#1195223 All the requirements are freely available. While I think it was terrible that your sales folks didn't know what these requirements were, I think it is inaccurate to say that you were made to purchase anything. All the info is freely available... in fact a google search for Oracle9i Memory requirements found me plenty of information. I think you bear some responsibility in this as well. Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L They made me purchase customer support before they would even tell me the system requirements for 9i (which I had already purchased, including a personal 2-year license). It turns out that I need to buy more memory and can't install the product. That tee'd me off ! I couldn't get a salesperson anywhere to tell me the requirements, and it definitely wasn't on the product info pages on their site. --JoJo -Original Message- Robert Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anyone else just slightly irritated with the level of customer support offered for phone callers to Oracle now days? Used to be, that if you were a gold customer as we are, you could almost count on instant first line support. Last week I called and was told that a phone call would result in at least a one hour delay in an analyst call back, whereas an iTar (lie tars I call em) will get me about 30 minute response. The representative was rude and snarly to me at the same time. Is this how Larry wants to save that second billion, crappy customer service? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET
RE: Oracle Gold Support
Having some data would have been far better than no data for me -- would have saved me several hundred dollars. I would have purchased 8i instead. I'm learning Oracle -- the classes aren't even for 9i anyway. They're for 8i. As it is, I wasted several hundred dollars. Cheers, JoJo -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Microsoft used to give out memory requirements for their software, and it seems to me almost every time they underestimated the minimum requirements. I myself prefer no information to misleading information. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Oracle Gold Support They made me purchase customer support before they would even tell me the system requirements for 9i (which I had already purchased, including a personal 2-year license). It turns out that I need to buy more memory and can't install the product. That tee'd me off ! I couldn't get a salesperson anywhere to tell me the requirements, and it definitely wasn't on the product info pages on their site. --JoJo -Original Message- Robert Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anyone else just slightly irritated with the level of customer support offered for phone callers to Oracle now days? Used to be, that if you were a gold customer as we are, you could almost count on instant first line support. Last week I called and was told that a phone call would result in at least a one hour delay in an analyst call back, whereas an iTar (lie tars I call em) will get me about 30 minute response. The representative was rude and snarly to me at the same time. Is this how Larry wants to save that second billion, crappy customer service? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP Oracle DBA Technical Lead CSX Midtier Database Administration The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like
RE: Ms. buy Redhat
No, it's a hoax. Here's the site of the person who started the hoax, and tells all about it: http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1338825GHU_98.asp And by the way, this is NOT Microsoft's site. It's a spoofed URL (easy enough to do). Cheers, JoJo -Original Message- Mladen Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:00 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes, and I read that MS will buy EFF and replace GPL with a proprietary MS license. Be prepared to pay dearly for Visual GCC 4. Eric Raymond will become a VP in Redmond, WA. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi guys, PCplus (Indonesia newspaper) said Microsoft bought Redhat (no URL link to this news), any URL on this news ? Sinardy -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sinard Xing INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: (no subject)
I'm also a brand new student of Oracle. The EXACT same thing happened to me in class a couple of weeks ago when I created a 2nd database. The reason it happened was that I didn't create the DB all in one day...and when I went in on the 2nd day to finish it, I did notstartup the 2nd database before continuing to run the scripts, etc. So, the default database started and then some of the commands/scripts actually modified the default database's control files, etc. It was a real mess. We couldn't mount to delete certain files, yet we couldn't delete certain files in nomount, etc. The teacher had me run the attached script, and that fixed it. And I learned some more lessons, hahaha! I don't know if this is what happened to you, but since your situation is EXACTLY like mine, error messages, etc., I would suspect this. So check out the attached script and maybe it'll help. You'll have to modify the .sql file to replace with your database names. In the existing file, "will" is the default database and "test" is the database I was creating. Check through and fix up filenames, paths, etc. --JoJo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:54 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: (no subject)I'm a student dba'r running 9i on windows xp. I have created a second database (database name=bill, instance name = bill). After I first created it, I tried to mount it after shutting down the installation seed database (database name = orcl, instance name = orcl). I kept getting the message 'cannot mount database in exclusive mode'. After several attempts to get out of exclusive mode, I gave up. The next night, without making any changes, I tried again and this time I was sucessful in mounting the bill database. I created a data tablespace (data) and four tables which I populated. Then I queried the database name from v$database and got the response 'bill'. Next I queried the instance name from v$instance and got 'orcl' when I should have gotten 'bill'. I double checked the database name and again got 'bill'.nbs! ! p; How can this be? But the real problem is that when I tried to mount the database bill again tonight, I again got the message ''cannot mount database in exclusive mode'. I can't find an explanation for this in the book. I tried to startup nomount using the 'bill' pfile which showed an idel instance started. Then I tried to issue the alter database mount parallel command but it comes back with the 'cannot mount database in exclusive mode'. When I then query the instance_name from v$instance I get orcl instead of bill. Can any one help me out?Thanks!Bill Johnson CONTROL.SQL Description: Binary data
RE: (no subject)
One more thing about the script I sent -- that was for 8i, not 9i, so check it out in that respect, as well. Cheers, JoJo
RE: Rollback Segments
-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: The use of schemas
ROFLMFAO !!! :D JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Consultant Topic Interesting one === It's all about an intelligent consultant... Once upon a time there was a shepherd looking after his sheep on the edge of a deserted road. Suddenly a brand new Jeep Cherokee screeches to a halt next to him. The driver, a young man dressed in a suit and Ray-Ban glasses, gets out and asks the shepherd If I guess how many sheep you have, will you give me one of them? The shepherd looks at the young man, then looks at the sheep grazing and says, All right. The young man parks the car, connects the notebook and the mobile, enters a NASA site, scans the ground using his GPS, opens a data base and 60 Excel tables filled with algorithms, then prints a 150-page report on his high-tech mini-printer. He then turns to the shepherd and says You have exactly 1586 sheep here. The shepherd answers, That's correct, you can have your sheep. The young man takes the sheep and puts it in the back of his jeep. The shepherd looks at him and asks If I guess your profession, will you return my sheep to me? The young man answers Yes, why not. The shepherd says, You are a consultant! How did you know? asks the young man. Very simple, answers the shepherd First, you come here without being called. Second, you charge me a sheep to tell me something I already knew. Third, you do not understand anything about what I do, because you took my dog! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: is it f*ing f*day yet? / ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Num
Title: RE: is it f*ing f*day yet? / ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 032 I can read this and think, "Oh, this is pretty funny!", but tell me folks, why do some of you go out of your way to humiliate others (whether you are "right" or "wrong")? Don't you have anything better to do? --JoJo New Member but so what -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon BakerSent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:26 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: is it f*ing f*day yet? / ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Num It ain't just you. it distracts me from being able to read more quickly because my brain must translate this c-r-a-p. It's not cute, it is just down right annoying. I always figured it was just me and just tried to ignore. Glad to hear I am not the only one. Jon Baker -Original Message- From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: is it f*ing f*day yet? / ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 032 rant: "bcoz" "u" ?? "shud" "ur" ?? maybe I'm just being an *sshole, but does anyone else find this kind of "cutsie" mutiliation of the english language nauseating, insipid, banal, inane, egregious, atrocious, deplorable, heinous, monstrous, outrageous, preposterous, autocratic, dictatorial, despotic, tyrannical, absolutist, violating of all good/beauty/truth in the universe, just basically completely f*ing stupid, etc ? ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 032 JoJo, i'm also not a HiFi DBA like those few, and my purpose of being in the list is to gain more knowledge. What i feel is that nobody has the right to be arrogant, just bcoz the question is below their dignity to answer. It wastes their time but if they only want complex questions they shud form their own mailing lists. having said that, what i feel is that you shud do a bit of RTFM rather than getting a cooked answer becuase that helps in ur development too. who knows trying to find an answer to one query u may hit upon new things in the manuals. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL)
Hi Naveen, I have no objections to RTFM. I do have objections to rudeness, arrogance and nastiness. It's so easy to just hit the delete key -- nobody is making anybody answer any e-mails. If they don't want to answer them, they can just delete them, without all the nastiness. I'm new to this list and seeing the nastiness going on makes me rather leary of ever posting a question. Cheers, JoJo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Naveen NahataSent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:35 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL) JoJo, i'm also not a HiFi DBA like those few, and my purpose of being in the list is to gain more knowledge.What i feel is that nobody has the right to be arrogant, just bcoz the question is below their dignity to answer.It wastes their time but if they only want complex questions they shud form their own mailing lists.having said that, what i feel is that you shud do a bit of RTFM rather than getting a cooked answer becuase that helps in ur development too. who knows trying to find an answer to one query u may hit upon new things in the manuals. RTFM does not always waste timeregards, naveen Do You Yahoo!?Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now!
RE: Unbreakable Oracle - Metaslink
I'm reposting this because it got bounced back to me, so this might show up twice. When I was purchasing my CD pack a couple of weeks ago, the site was so slow, it would take 2-3 minutes for any page to load (on my DSL). I finally gave up and called Sales on the phone. I asked him up was up with the site, and he told me that they had just upgraded the site and were ironing out bugs. (I don't know about you, but by day I'm a web manager/programmer, and we don't make a site live until we've ironed out the bugs!!!) --JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL)
Title: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL) No offense to anybody, butI think this is rather arrogant. The list is for anybody (unless the list owner decides it's just for experienced dba's). I am brand new to Oracle, having just started learning it this week. I can easily foresee having what some might consider stupid orRTFM questions, and being possibly unable to find the answer or having problems deciphering the manual. I myself am somewhat of a Word pro (and my vba code samples page is the #1 ranked site of its kind on most major search engines) and I help all kinds of newbies out on a Word list of which I am a member, as do all the other members of the list. Everybody on that list is extremely gracious and nobody complains -- and the people with questions get the help they need, with nobody sitting back going "boy are you stupid / lazy". I am hoping that I can get the same kind of help here, when I am ready for it, that I and others give on other lists. --JoJo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig MundaySent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL) The problem is that if you always ask the group for help, you never learn where the information is within the manuals or other reference documentation and the group also gets cluttered with trivia. I agree with you that the list is here to help people and I personally do not mind the odd naive question from a new DBA, but it is the "...can't be bothered to look up the manual.." attitude that is most frustrating. When you ask the format of a command (for example) to the list, you are potentionally asking 1000's of people the same question who will all have to spend the time to filter these questions - we are all busy people and I personally do not want to use my time in this way. I'm sure you can see that this is a much more expensive option than asking the person next to you. Cheers, Craig. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 2:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: PL/SQL Why do you bother being on this List: The list is here to help fellow DBA'S. Have you never said to one of your collegues , what is the format of this command, or how can I do that, when you simply cant be bothered to look it up in the manual (either your busy or just down right lazy): Sometimes this list is useful for just that. So why dont u lighten up dude. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL)
the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thomas, Kevin INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sam Roberts INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL)
Thank you all for your kind replies, and I now definitely know the correct answer to this. Please let me reiterate that I am *not* yet an Oracle dba. I've only been to one class so far, for crying out loud! Obviously it would be better for me to just not post for a while, in any event. No need to keep on responding to this thread. Cheers, JoJo -Original Message- Walt Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I strongly suggest you not experiment with this on your production database. --Walt -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm a complete newbie, so I may be off-base here, but I believe that truncating a table does not delete any data from the table. It moves the cursor up, thereby closing up the empty space where data has previously been deleted. --JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L To our resident Oracle Expert who just 6 months (July 26 2001) ago posted the following e-mail If I remember rightly, deleting rows from the table does NOT free up tablespace. In order to do that you have to trunctate the table (although this of course deletes all data from the table)...I can't for the life of me remember how you adjust the space the table is actually using after doing a delete...(to everyone else) would an analyze work? Kev. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE:
Take two placebos and check back in the morning. --JoJo -Original Message- Walt Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L HELP -Original Message- Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Walt started it. -Original Message- Ahem... Is this thing on? OK. For those of you that are new, have short memories or are easily confused, this post was not serious. It was a joke. One look at the senders address will confirm that. How do I turn this thing off? Jared ( the list owner, SA, OCP and Part Time Perl Evangelist ) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Backup Strategy
send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: grace INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bunyamin K. Karadeniz INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Backup Strategy
Now you're really stretching it! :D --JoJo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoJo -- Sure, but be aware that Unix abaci are better than NT abaci. don't forget the VMS abaci.;-) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: SCOTT/TIGER
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RE: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion
Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Paul Baumgartel INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sherman, Paul R. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Johnston, Tim INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to calculate user load on the system
Speaking of 42 ... In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. --Douglas Adams Cheers, JoJo -Original Message- Still Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 1:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If the question is Which episode of Star Trek was 'The Trouble with Tribbles', then yes. ;) Jared On Sunday 20 January 2002 01:30, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Yep. And we also found logoff-triggers in 8i to be useful for the same (and additional) purposes. But if I had to guess, I'm sure the answer would be 42 :-). Mogens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raj, Maybe another option would be to audit session for the database. For each logon/logoff you would see the logical/physical reads and the logical writes ( in dba_audit_session) by Oracle username (or osusername). Chaim Aponte, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 01/16/2002 06:15:24 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Then you're in luck. I'd recommend starting with Oracle Response Time Analysis from www.orapub.com. Although it won't give you exactly what you need, it will help you get to the next step. Once you understand a session's response time components, it's a short hop to figuring out the V$SESSTAT statistics that make up the CPU time, physical/logical I/O operations and memory footprint. HTH Tony -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:54 PM To: Aponte, Tony; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Database Load ... is the main target at this time ... Thanks Tony, Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raj, sorry for me being confused. Are you trying to measure what the application executable is doing outside the database (i.e.. host system load) or the activity inside the database (i.e.. per user/program/module DB stats)? Tony -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Installation Problems
Hi Yechiel, I'm starting to get embarrassed because I have the feeling the problem was not enough disk space. ! I completely manually uninstalled 9i yesterday and tried reinstalling it, and got to the same place, only to error out again, while creating clone database. This time I checked how much disk space was available and at this point, there was hardly any disk space left. (I didn't know Oracle was so huge!) Anyway, today I'm going to try putting it on our Win2K machine, which has loads of disk space because it's one of our development servers and doesn't have all the other stuff on it that I have on my station. Also, your idea is a good one and I'm going to check for patches, in any case. Am I right in my guess that most Oracle dba's are administering on Unix ?? Thanks again, JoJo http://www.jojo-zawawi.com -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello JoJo I had a similar problem with oracle 9i on NT. Check if there is a new CD that includes the patches that came out since you got your CD. In my case I got a new CD, build 2, that solved the problem. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joe Testa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sat, January 12, 2002 6:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Installation Problems good luck with it, and be ready to reinstall windows if it all goes to heck. joe JoJo Al-Zawawi wrote: Thanks a lot, Joe. Since I backed up my registry before I installed Oracle, I can probably just import the backed-up registry and save myself some time. We'll see how it goes! Cheers, JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 5:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L here you go, save it, i'm sure you'll need it in the future, i dont do oracle database on windoze but support the clients. ---cut here--- Introduction Removing or deinstalling Oracle software from an 95/98/NT operating system requires several steps to completely creating a 'clean' machine. This document explains what must be done to remove all Oracle software from the system. Warning --- 1) Backup Be careful, because these steps remove all Oracle software, Oracle services, and Oracle registry entries from the system. So it is advisable that you first perform a backup, if required, of certain files like: SQL*Nnet configuration files Database files Self-written scripts that are stored under the oracle home directory, etc. 2) The following procedures require the editing of Windows registry, which is a potentially dangerous operation. There is no undo option in the Registry Editor. Content --- A. 32-bit on Windows NT B. 32-bit on Win95/Win98 C. 16-bit A. 32-bit on Windows NT --- 1. Ensure that you are logged in as a user with Administrator privileges. 2. Stop all Oracle-related services and all Oracle programs. 3. Remove the database services via the oradim command. This can be done via ORADIMXX -DELETE -SID SID or via the 'SC' tool of the resource kit. For a full explanation on using the ORADIM command, see NOTE:61621.1 gt;. As from 8.1.6, the method for deinstalling is to first run Net8CA in Deinstall mode, then run DBCA to delete a database, then run OUI to deinstall the products. At this point, all services should be removed. 4. Start the ODBC administrator applet, if installed, and remove any Oracle DSN definitions. 5. Remove the Oracle software via the Oracle installer or the Universal Installer (8.1.5 and onwards). Make sure that all services related to Oracle are stopped first. Note that you cannot remove the installer itself. If Legato Storage Manager is installed on the system, then remove it via the uninstaller executable that is shipped with Legato. Start-Programs-Networker-Uninstall Networker Caution: If Legato Storage Manager was installed independently of Oracle, DO NOT REMOVE LSM, because your system's backup environment may be adversely affected. 6. Start the Event Viewer, Log-Application, and clean up the application logs for Oracle. 7. Start the registry editor. This can be done via regedit or regedt32. a) If the Oracle Universal Installer (OUI) was used, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oracle and write down the value of the INST_LOC variable. This shows you where the OUI software
RE: Installation Problems
Hi Paul, The CD installation program is not working (it just won't run) -- that's 90% of my problem. I'm going to have to do a manual de-install. I am completely unfamiliar with Oracle (I'm about to take a class and start learning it), so I haven't any idea where it places files, i.e., whether it places files in folders other than obviously-named Oracle files. Do you know? Thanks, JoJo -Original Message- Paul R. Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The proper way to back out almost all Oracle installations on a PC is as follows: 1. De-install the Oracle application using the CD that you used to do the installation 2. Delete the folder under which you installed the Oracle application 3. Delete all Oracle folders and files referencing that Oracle application from the registry under hkey_local_machine\software 4. Delete all Oracle folders and files referencing that Oracle application from the registry under hkey_local_machine\system, any/all controlset, including currentcontrolset 5. Reboot your PC - this should clear the other areas of the registry, i.e., hkey_local_user, et al 6. Depending on the Oracle application, you may need to delete/modify some of the environmental i.e., system variables, if/where applicable to the operating system; a check never hurts 7. You may not be able to delete the folder in step 2; if so, after the reboot, you should be able to; if not, you more than likely still have something referencing a file in that folder. Paul DBA Elcom, Inc. -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 12:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I backed up my registry before I installed it. Do you suppose if restored that registry and just deleted any Oracle directories (and then rebooted), that would do it? Does Oracle place files in any Windows directories (dlls, etc.)? Thanks, JoJo -Original Message- Kirti Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Darn Windoze !! Looks like you need to manually get rid of the entire Oracle directory structure, and remove the registry entries (after saving current registry:), and then rebooting to start afresh. Good Luck, - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I just tried to install Oracle 9i personal edition for Win98 on my Win98 PC. After quite a bit of installation, it got to a part where it was creating some database or something, and I got an error: The program encountered an invalid page exception. Fault location: 0028:0022 Interrupts in service: None And it advised me to reboot, which I did. Now I cannot get the installation program to re-start, no matter what I do, from the CD-ROM, from the computer, from running various programs on the CD-ROM, what have you. I can't un-install it because (a) it doesn't show up on Windows' uninstall list and (b) the Oracle installer won't run. It starts to run (a brief flash of the installer graphic), then the CD-ROM quits and nothing happens. Any ideas? Thanks, JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Installation Problems
. cut here-- JoJo Al-Zawawi wrote: Hi Joe, Please mail me the metalstink thing -- I've never heard of it. I agree that it sounds like I need to do a brutal erase. Bwa !!! Thanks in advance! --JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L sounds like you need to do the brutal erase of all oracle products from a windoze machine. THere is a document on metalstink about how to remove oracle entirely from a windoze machine, if you dont have metalstink access let me know, i'll email it to you direct. joe JoJo Al-Zawawi wrote: Hi all, I just tried to install Oracle 9i personal edition for Win98 on my Win98 PC. After quite a bit of installation, it got to a part where it was creating some database or something, and I got an error: The program encountered an invalid page exception. Fault location: 0028:0022 Interrupts in service: None And it advised me to reboot, which I did. Now I cannot get the installation program to re-start, no matter what I do, from the CD-ROM, from the computer, from running various programs on the CD-ROM, what have you. I can't un-install it because (a) it doesn't show up on Windows' uninstall list and (b) the Oracle installer won't run. It starts to run (a brief flash of the installer graphic), then the CD-ROM quits and nothing happens. Any ideas? Thanks, JoJo -- Joe Testa, Oracle DBA Want to have a good time with a bunch of geeks? Check out: http://www.geekcruises.com/standard_interface/future_cruises.html I'm presenting, when registering drop my name :) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Installation Problems
Hi all, I just tried to install Oracle 9i personal edition for Win98 on my Win98 PC. After quite a bit of installation, it got to a part where it was creating some database or something, and I got an error: The program encountered an invalid page exception. Fault location: 0028:0022 Interrupts in service: None And it advised me to reboot, which I did. Now I cannot get the installation program to re-start, no matter what I do, from the CD-ROM, from the computer, from running various programs on the CD-ROM, what have you. I can't un-install it because (a) it doesn't show up on Windows' uninstall list and (b) the Oracle installer won't run. It starts to run (a brief flash of the installer graphic), then the CD-ROM quits and nothing happens. Any ideas? Thanks, JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Installation Problems
Hi Joe, Please mail me the metalstink thing -- I've never heard of it. I agree that it sounds like I need to do a brutal erase. Bwa !!! Thanks in advance! --JoJo -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L sounds like you need to do the brutal erase of all oracle products from a windoze machine. THere is a document on metalstink about how to remove oracle entirely from a windoze machine, if you dont have metalstink access let me know, i'll email it to you direct. joe JoJo Al-Zawawi wrote: Hi all, I just tried to install Oracle 9i personal edition for Win98 on my Win98 PC. After quite a bit of installation, it got to a part where it was creating some database or something, and I got an error: The program encountered an invalid page exception. Fault location: 0028:0022 Interrupts in service: None And it advised me to reboot, which I did. Now I cannot get the installation program to re-start, no matter what I do, from the CD-ROM, from the computer, from running various programs on the CD-ROM, what have you. I can't un-install it because (a) it doesn't show up on Windows' uninstall list and (b) the Oracle installer won't run. It starts to run (a brief flash of the installer graphic), then the CD-ROM quits and nothing happens. Any ideas? Thanks, JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Installation Problems
I backed up my registry before I installed it. Do you suppose if restored that registry and just deleted any Oracle directories (and then rebooted), that would do it? Does Oracle place files in any Windows directories (dlls, etc.)? Thanks, JoJo -Original Message- Kirti Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Darn Windoze !! Looks like you need to manually get rid of the entire Oracle directory structure, and remove the registry entries (after saving current registry:), and then rebooting to start afresh. Good Luck, - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I just tried to install Oracle 9i personal edition for Win98 on my Win98 PC. After quite a bit of installation, it got to a part where it was creating some database or something, and I got an error: The program encountered an invalid page exception. Fault location: 0028:0022 Interrupts in service: None And it advised me to reboot, which I did. Now I cannot get the installation program to re-start, no matter what I do, from the CD-ROM, from the computer, from running various programs on the CD-ROM, what have you. I can't un-install it because (a) it doesn't show up on Windows' uninstall list and (b) the Oracle installer won't run. It starts to run (a brief flash of the installer graphic), then the CD-ROM quits and nothing happens. Any ideas? Thanks, JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OCP discount is avaialable still?
"Continuing Education" if you want Cheers!, JoJo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron RogersSubject: Re: OCP discount is avaialable still? I wonder if I have to claim the cost on my taxes??? ROR mª¿ªm
RE: Question re Installation Possible Conflicts
Thanks! --JoJo -Original Message- You should have no issues. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Question re Installation Possible Conflicts
Hello ! I'm about to start learning Oracle (taking a class). I purchased Oracle 9i (Personal) and I would like to know whether there will be a problem installing it on my Win98 computer, especially considering that I'm running Microsoft Visual InterDev MS SQL-6 MS SQL-7. I have to be careful that I don't mess up those installations, since I use them in my work. Any comments? Thanks !!! --JoJo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
