RE: Insert from text file

2001-10-02 Thread John Lewis

Another option would be to use perl/VB/shell and format the data into sql
insert
statements then apply these thru sqlplus. Very low tech and cheesy - but it
works.

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Hi listers,

I want to insert a text file in my client machine (Win NT) into emp 
(empno,ename, salary) table in unix machine from my client. I don't have 
sqlloader in my machine (client). How to do that ? Can we used utl_file 
package ?
If yes , please give an example because I'm new for utl_file package.
The columns in text file are (empno, ename, salary) :
 A  3000
 B  5000
 C  4000

Thanks for any clue.

Aldi


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RE: For i (Select..)

2001-10-01 Thread John Lewis

The 'For I in...' is an implicit cursor

To define/declare a cursor is explicit.


I've used both. The 'For i in...' is down, dirty and very fast.

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the code IS a cursor


--- Csillag Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 
 I've read in Tom Kyte's book the following technique:
 
 
For i in (Select statement ) Loop
 
   Process records here
 
End Loop ;
 
   I have tried it and it works great.
 
 The question is that what is the difference betwen a cursor and the
 code above?
 Which is more efficient?
 
 Thank you
 
 
 Zsolt Csillag
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RE: For i (Select..)

2001-10-01 Thread John Lewis

I think you have more 'control' over the explicit cursor. I've seen some
nifty little
tricks with explicit cursors.

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Hi,

If this code is a cursor then why doesn't everybody use it this way?

For me it seems a lot simplier and easier than declaring a cursor in a 
normal way.

At 14:50 2001.10.01. -0800, you wrote:
the code IS a cursor


--- Csillag Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
 
  I've read in Tom Kyte's book the following technique:
 
 
 For i in (Select statement ) Loop
 
Process records here
 
 End Loop ;
 
I have tried it and it works great.
 
  The question is that what is the difference betwen a cursor and the
  code above?
  Which is more efficient?
 
 

Zsolt Csillag
Hungary

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RE: ORACLE VS. SYBASE

2001-09-24 Thread John Lewis

I've gotten Oracle working with response files on 8.1.7
It does okay.

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-- Bryan, Miriam [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/24/01 11:53:55 -0800

 In your opinion, which one is more robust, better? we need
 replication and resource management.

This comes down to a religious issue in many respects.  Each of the
databases does things the other doesn't; each does some things 
differently in ways that make some people [un]happy.

I've flushed any use of Oracle until they dump the Universal
Installer mainly because it makes getting the product up and running
nearly impossible on my systems (try a remote install with it sometime).
I'm also not happy that Oracle has replaced quite a few operational
methods (e.g., analyze table, svrmgrl) with things that don't seem to 
work as well on my and other sites.  Net resul that they took working
methods out of service before the new ones were wrung out the point of
production stability.

One place to look for traceoffs is the Perl DBI mailing list archives.
Even if you don't use DBI itself the list contains good descriptions 
of what problems people have with various databases.

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Response files for 8.1.7

2001-09-19 Thread John Lewis

Anyone have a *working* response file for a minimal install on Linux/Solaris
they want to share?

The docs are very bare and the error logs are well, not too helpful.

TIA

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RE: Lots and lots of redo logs

2001-09-14 Thread John Lewis

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AIX has a unique concept of this. 

Given data spread on a disk. The head will spend more time over the 
 middle tracks as it seeks data that is distributed across the disk.

Thus for faster access, place your tablespace on the middle tracks
of a disk because the probability that the head will be over it is
much greater.

Learned this with Syabase on AIX. It may still hold true today.
I don't know. Technology had advanced a lot from those day. (But I think the
laws of physics are the same ;-))

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Christopher R. Spence said:
Disks are cheap and if you store things on the outer platters performance
will suffer?

Chris, I'm not sure what you mean here. 

The concept of Variable Transfer Rate covers this.

Stealing a quote from: Optimal Storage Configuration Made Easy,
By Juan Loaiza, Oracle Corporation

The transfer rate for a disk drive is not the same for all portions of a
disk.  
The outer sectors of a disk drive move by the disk head faster than the
inner sections 
leading to a faster transfer rate for the outer sectors.  This is simply
because 
of the circular shape of a disk drive.

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RE: more PeopleSoft8 oddities

2001-09-14 Thread John Lewis

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Sheeze! I got a headache just reading your description ;-)

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As promised, they just keep coming. Our system was churning out tons of
archive logs (at least for us). It was generating about 40-50M an hour at a
fairly constant clip throughout the day. We are nowhere near a 24 hour shop
so this wasn't user load. It also wasn't scheduled batch jobs (and anyway,
those should have shown spikes in log generation). My guess was some wierd
chattiness of the application. 

I took 9 different archive logs ( 3 groups of 3 from different light times.
1,3,4am from 2 days) and loaded them into logminer. I was hoping the same
object(s) were being hit over and over again and I could find that via
logminer. I also checked to make sure this happened over all loaded
logfiles. No such luck, BUT there were only ~2300 DML operations and more
than 100,000 commits (about 10/sec). The session_info field in
v$logmnr_contents pointed to 3 PeopleSoft processes: PSBRKDSP, PSSUBDSP,
PSPUBDSP (I'm glad peoplesoft adds this to their session info). Going to
v$sesstat I found that the bulk of 'redo entries', 'redo size', and 'user
commits' came from 3 SIDs (The size of user commits was consistent with the
10commits/sec rate, and v$session matched these sids with the same 3
peoplesoft processes). 

Time for a SQL trace. There were basically 2 pieces of SQL being run over
and over (slightly different for each process). A count of 'log file sync'
waits in the trace file again matched the commit rate. The SQL for one of
the processes was:

SELECT TO_CHAR(LASTUPDDTTM,'-MM-DD-HH24.MI.SS.00') FROM
PSAPMSGSUBCSYNC WHERE CHNLNAME=:1
SELECT CHNLLOCK FROM PSAPMSGSUBCLOCK WHERE CHNLNAME=:1 FOR UPDATE OF
CHNLLOCK

Where the bind variables include
ACTUAL_TIME
APE_INDUSTRY
BANK
BUDGET_POSITION
COMMIT_CNTRL_BUDGET_UPDATE
COMPANY_PROPERTY
COMPETENCY
...

Surprisingly Customer Connection had something on this. It is the default
behavior of the Publish/Subscribe feature when configuring the application
server. The suggestion is to turn off the Broker servers if your not using
them. You can reduce the time interval for which the brokers check in for
work... this will reduce the amount of logging but will not eliminate it.
To change the Scan interval edit your Domain configuration file, through
psadmin, and change the following variable in the dispatcher sections
[PSBRKDSP_dflt (publication broker dispatcher), PSSUBDSP_dflt (subscription
contract dispatcher) and PSPUBDSP_dflt (publication contract dispatcher)]
Scan Interval=10  (currently set to 10 seconds... this is the interval at
which the dispatchers check into the database looking for work) 

Hope this helps. I'm sure they'll be more installments coming.

Henry

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RE: Oracle DBAs with 11i and AIX experience needed in Los Angeles

2001-09-13 Thread John Lewis

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I guess I just don't get it. 
Do they check drivers license at the interview? 
Would they turn someone down who was willing to move themselves to LA? Could
I go and get a fake id? (I had one in high school to buy beer.)

You people post the most bizarre things...

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A top manufacturing company located in Westlake Village, California (Greater
Los Angeles area)
has a requirement for several Oracle DBAs who have 11i and AIX experience to
join its' I.T. team.

* This company is looking for candidates local to the Greater Los Angeles
area only. 
Candidates not in the LA area cannot be considered.

* This position will require 20-30% travel to Asia, so the ability to speak
Chinese
  is a big plus...
  
These are  full time staff positions so no sub-contractors or third parties
please.

Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or need 
sponsorship.

Responsibilities:
*Performance tuning, capacity planning and application tuning
*Oracle 11, 8 and 8i with Oracle Parallel Server in High Availability 
 AIX environment
*Installation and administration of Oracle application
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 Oracle network computing architecture, client and
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*Install, upgrade, administration, and write shell
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Requirements:
* 4 year degree
* 5 years minimum experience in Oracle DBA:
* Oracle 11i, 8 and 8i 
* Parallel Server 
* AIX experience
* Any Lotus Notes administration experience is also a plus.
* Willingness for up to 30% overseas travel
* U.S. citizenship or permanent residency also required

These positions offer:
   * Stability 
   * The opportunity to become a key member of the team.
   * Base salary- D.O.E.
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PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States.

For  immediate consideration, please send your resume as a Word attachment
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RE: Quest bought EZSQL

2001-09-13 Thread John Lewis

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I had an email discussion with John Dorn (sp.?), the author, about this.
I'll send you the text if you wish? I was really upset about it

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Guys, go to www.ezsql.net and read about it. Quest will not sell new
licences - apparently EZSQL was bought to suppress competition for TOAD and
SQL Navigator. It reminds me Marks explanation about capitalizm - that
capitalizm suppress innovations when they are thretening profits.

Alex Hillman
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Any shareware/gnu ER diagramers out there?

2001-09-12 Thread John Lewis

Basically looking for something that reads a schema and prints out 
what tables have FK to what other tables. Dependencies also?

I may have a need very soon for one. 

Thanks -

John F. Lewis

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RE: Life: is that really OT?

2001-09-12 Thread John Lewis

Greg Solomon,

Perhaps you're hoping to reach an 'accomodation' with the terrorists?

I wonder who Winston Churchill, the great English statesman - who also stood
up to terrorists of a different sort - if he were still alive, would he side
with your comments?

Just wondering.

At 05:00 AM 9/12/2001 -0800, you wrote:
My deepest sympathies to anyone who has a personal connection to the events
that have occurred.

It's sad that people are celebrating.  Perhaps some of them have their own
sorrows and horrors, perhaps some are young and stupid, and perhaps some
are
just sick or evil or both.  But I think we've seen right here on Oracle-L
that inappropriate responses are not confined to the Middle East.

But saddest of all, IMHO, is the mindview expressed so well by the
following
comment.

We need to be cool, calm, convinced and know what we want to hit - and
utterly destroy it. Completely.  Well, that's probably a very succinct way
of expressing the core beliefs of each of the murderers involved in
creating
this ghastly mess.  To anyone who calls for an air strike anywhere as a
result of this, I hope that lots and lots of people stand up and reply,
THIS WAS AN AIR STRIKE, YOU IDIOT.  This is EXACTLY what you're suggesting
should be repeated in someone else's country.  Innocent people suffering,
lots of them.  Many of whom will probably sincerely regret the events of
11th September 2001 and feel no sympathies for those responsible,
regardless
of what their government may be saying at the time.

Perhaps you could be cool, calm, convinced and know what you want your
country to ACHIEVE ... and presumably the primary goal is that this tragedy
is never repeated, anywhere in the world.  I suggest that airport security
looks like a good place to start, possibly also the lock on the door from
the cabin to the cockpit.

Please leave the terror to the terrorists.

Again, to those suffering our thoughts are with you.

Greg Solomon
London UK

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Hi Listers

  Just wanted to express it.

  Sad about the bombings..

  Sadder about people rushing to defend it.
  Sadder about people rushing to own it!

  Hope you are all safe.


Regards

Just another Human





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RE: what is wrong with this timestamp??

2001-09-12 Thread John Lewis

Off hand, I'd say you either need to convert the strings to dates or 
the dates to strings ( to_date/to_char )

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set timing on;
SELECT SUM(orig_transac_amt),
   COUNT(1)
  FROM dsg.ar_open_items
WHERE timestamp_date between '06-sep-01 21:22:34'
and '06-sep-01 22:01:57'
   AND user_id_no = 0;

Ora-1830??

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RE: dbms_utility.compile_schema

2001-09-12 Thread John Lewis

Ohh... Neat.

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You know, of course, that 8.1.7 has a script called utlirp.sql, 
residing in the usual place which compiles ALL INVALID OBJECTS IN THE 
DATABASE and does so in a logically consistent manner.

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 Excellent solution Charlie! - E
 
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 When there are mutiple INVALID objects it can be the case 
 that object Z 
 uses object Y which uses object X. If X, Y  Z are invalid, 
 you'd need to 
 invoke dbms_utility.compile_schema up to THREE times  if the invalid 
 objects are compiled in alphabetical order. 
 
 My PL/SQL procedure use an invalid object counter and remains 
 in a WHILE 
 LOOP until the current invalid object count equals the previous loop's
 invalid 
 object count. Once two consecutive 
 dbms_utility.compile_schema results in 
 the same number of invalid objects, then you can exit out of 
 the loop and 
 exit the procedure. 
 
 
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 Package bodies, procedures, function in packages need to be 
 compiled before
 packages.  DBMS_UTILITY.compile_schemaI believe compiles in 
 Alphabetically
 order not in functional order. Kathy 
 
 
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 Is there something wrong with dbms_utility.compile_schema . 
 When I tried to
 use it  , I left with few invalid objects . But if I manually 
 compile those
 objects using alter package *** . they get compiled .Any Idea 
 why ? BIgP 
 
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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread John Lewis

The Stealth fighters are an expensive, sad joke. They were developed to
counter Soviet tanks rumbling across Germany.

The problem is - Who do we strike?
It's not like the good ol' days when the enemy all lived 
in one country and wore the same uniform. Things are very fuzzy now.

This is a an attack to frustrate us. To make the the U.S. strike out
mindlessly. 

We need to be cool, calm, convinced and know what we want to hit - and
utterly destroy it. Completely.

We are not at risk from rougue states with nuclear missles (You just don't
get it, George). It's the terrorist fanatics with a suitcase and a warped
purpose that's our biggest threat.

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friend of mine just saw Bush's plane, flying super low and
surrounded by *stealth fighters* heading for Andrews'

Man, I hope there is a  R E S P O N S E  to this, and soon. 

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I am wondering whether this was an attack from outside, or from people like
Timothy McVeigh. 
It seems to be awfully well co-ordinated, how could they breach security to
that extent.

Regards,

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RE: db engines VS flat files

2001-09-10 Thread John Lewis

I think it's one of those things that if you have to ask then...

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I would like to know your opinion about the developments under for 
example perl for handling large amounts of datas (sets of flats files 
larger than 50 gigs) vs the option of using oracle for exmaple for doing 
the same task, wich would be more eficinet? why? cheers

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RE: OT RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-10 Thread John Lewis
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RE: Egregious coding

2001-09-06 Thread John Lewis
Title: Egregious coding



You 
can put "cursor_sharing=force" in the init file. It forces the reuse of sql even 
without
bind 
variables. I had the same problem with the "javoids".

  -Original Message-From: Hagedorn, Linda 
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  Egregious coding 
  Has anyone thought of a clever way to fail every 
  SQL statement that does not use a bind variable that I could switch on and off 
  as required? 
  I'm looking at hundreds of thousands of queries in 
  the v$sqlarea in production. I've taken engineering management to task 
  over this, and have gotten empty promises in return. I would love to 
  hold a valid threat over their heads that I'm going to shut off every 
  statement that is not coded properly. 
  Any ideas are appreciated. 
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RE: Oracle DBA Leader Needed in Beaumont, Texas..

2001-09-05 Thread John Lewis

As an ex-Texan, and related to many in the Orange-Beaumont-Port Arthur area,
I'll excuse myself from this discussion ;-)

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No thank you.  Beware!  Beaumont is the arm-pit of hell...

--Scott

OraStaff wrote:
 
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RE: Notification when something changes in the DB

2001-09-04 Thread John Lewis

For whatever reasons this solutions was found to be not sound by a 3rd
party consulting company which reccommended Oracle native technology
to perform this check.

Hmm... a trigger seem native to me. Perhaps they meant auditing.

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Hello fellow DBAs',

I have a weird question that I was asked. My first reaction was to answer:
There is no such thing, however I was talked into posting this question
here :-)

1. An applicaiton selects certain records (from different tables) from a
database..

2. When time comes to update some of these records in the datbase
application needs to know if records that it's about to update have been
modified by some other user.

3. Currently this is achieved with via triggers. Before performing an
update application checks if trigger updated a certain field in the
database which serves as an indication that records/fields of interest have
been updated.

For whatever reasons this solutions was found to be not sound by a 3rd
party consulting company which reccommended Oracle native technology
to perform this check. This company is now unreachable and management is
requesting to change the application to follow this review.

Management explanation of how it needs to be done is based on what ADO
would do where if you perform an optimistoc lock and then later on try to
update an already updated record it would tell you about this upfront., or
you would be able to check upfront WITHOUT requiring the DB.  I am not
familiar with ADO, that much  so I can not comment on it.

Can somebody tell me if they can think of way to achieve this?

I know it sounds rather weird request -- it is.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this,
Val Gamerman.
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RE: Tricky Hierarchical Query

2001-08-31 Thread John Lewis

Oracle has a very good section on prior and connect by.
These combined level let you walk a tree - so to speak.

I use them all the time. Look up the key words. You'll find it.

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Hi,

I am stumped on how to do a particular hierarchical
query. The query needs to be written entirely in SQL.

I have a table (ACCOUNT) with 3 columns of interest in
it, ACCOUNT_ID, ROOT_ID, PARENT_ID. Every row
represents an account. If an account is the root
(top-most), then the ROOT_ID and PARENT_ID columns are
null. If an account is a parent, then the ROOT_ID is
populated but the PARENT_ID is null. Accounts can be
nested multiple levels deep.

I need to find all of the accounts that belong to the
root of the given account but not include any accounts
that are children of the given account. Does this make
sense?

I.e.  5
  6   7
   8 9  10
11   1213  14

I'm not sure if my tree diagram will be dispalyed
properly after I email this but in essence if 8 is
the given account number, I want everything returned
except for 8, 11 and 12.

Thanks in advance!
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RE: Oracle to Sql Server

2001-08-30 Thread John Lewis
Title: Message



You 
may need to do some tweeking of the tables - but most every table/view moves 
fine.
It 
will not move pl/sql or triggers.

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  Easy. Use SQL*Server's DTS (data transformation 
  services) to pull the data from Oracle into SQL*Server.
  
  Jon 
Walthour
  

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Hello Folks, 

I am looking for some cool script to move all the database objects 

across from Oracle 8.1.7 to Latest Sql Server (ver ???) 
frequently. 

Is there any particular way we can do it to automate this 
?? 

BTW: I want to pledge $20 or even willing to pay yearly subscription 
and it would be a good 
idea to Send out a Pledge form to everyone . to keep the greens 
coming..

Cheers 
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RE: Oracle DBA With Internet Experience Needed in Harrisburg, PA

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RE: financial problems with fatcity.com

2001-08-29 Thread John Lewis
Title: RE: financial problems with fatcity.com



And.. 
uh... Ivan, Please don't feel like you have to share any more lap dancing 
experiences.
;-)

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  fatcity.com
  Alex, that is an excellent idea! I second that notion. 
  
  I have learned just as much if not more from this list than 
  the average $40-80 dba book out there (101 tuning and dba excluded, I've just 
  ordered practical 8i and await that one). I think we can easily come up with 
  the $500 a month figure, and that's this list alone. If you sum up all the 
  rest of the lists...Bruce may be able to bring it down to 6 bucks a year 
  maybe.
  12 bucks a yearsh*t (Ladies forgive me here, I'm just a 
  young buck trying to make a point) I've spent more than that for a lap dance 
  and that was only to have someone rub an @ss on me, where you all have saved 
  MY @SS literally more than once!!! This list is invaluable. Put me down 
  for 12 bucks a year. Ivan 
  ps. I by no means wanted to offend anyone, if so I am sorry 
  and please forgive me. ;) Long Live the List! -Original Message- From: Hillman, Alex 
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  I think that much better than voluntary contributions will be 
  some s*u*b*s*c*r*i*p*t*i*o*n fees - like $1 per month 
  or better $12 per year. I am sure that 
  everybody working with Oracle and living in US or UK or other 
  developed country can afford such fees. We will not 
  need to charge people from developing countries - I am 
  sure these subscription fees will generate more than 
  $500 per month. 
  Alex Hillman 
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RE: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !!

2001-08-29 Thread John Lewis
 around being able to
 generate quite a bit of
  additional
  income per month, and very soon.  In an effort to
 be open and up-front with
  you folks about this, I basically need to generate
 an additional $500 more
  per
  month. Right now that seems daunting, but I've
 been working hard to line up
  that
  additional income, and I believe I can do it. 
 Just not right away.  My
  estimates are that it will take me four or five
 months to come up to that
  level.  I need to get out there and sell website
 hosting and list hosting
  packages, and get new customers.  That takes time,
 unfortunately.  I need a
  buffer to enable me to get past this startup
 phase.
 
  After some discussions with Jared (the list
 owner), and some encouragement
  from him, I am coming to you to ask for you help
 in keeping Fat City
  financially afloat until I can be self sufficient.
  I'm not asking for a
  specific dollar amount from anyone, nor am I
 *expecting* anything from you
  folks.  But if it is within your power to
 contribute some money towards
  this
  end (and yes, I know these are hard financial
 times for everyone), I am
  hoping you can help.  If I can get sufficient
 promise of funds that will
  see
  me through the next few months, I am willing to
 jump in with both feet and
  make Fat City a viable business.  If it looks like
 the contributions are
  not
  sufficient to enable me to do that, I will cease
 operations within the next
  45-60 days.
 
  Let me be clear about a few things: If I *do*
 cease operations, I will give
  all of my lists time to find new list providers,
 and will make every effort
  to aid the shift over to the new provider, provide
 list dumps, archives,
  mail forwarding, etc.  Even though Rhythms goes
 out of business on
  10-Sep-2001, I have secured service until at least
 10-Oct-2001 to enable
  this to happen.  So don't worry about having to
 rush into your conversion
  if
  things don't work out.  I would also like to
 clearly state that this is not
  some attempt to blackmail or coerce anyone into
 coming up with money.  This
  will either succeed or fail based on what you
 folks can comfortably and
  willingly contribute.  If I had the ability to
 cover this startup period
  myself,
  I would definitely do so.  If Fat City ultimately
 goes under, it wil NOT be
 
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RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...

2001-08-27 Thread John Lewis

I had a similar problem getting 817nt from OTN.

I had to download the file to linux - run gunzip.
then I tar'd it up again and copy to NT - where I used a DOS tar program
to un-tar it. Sheeze! Very painful.

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Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from
technet.oracle.com.  I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but
gunzip is not recognizing the files.  I switched back to Windoze and using
Winzip it doesnt like the files either.  So I redownloaded just the smaller
third file and neither will uncompress the file.  Am I missing something
here?

I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work,
so I have been downloading the files using Windoze.  Could that be the
problem??

TIA!!

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RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...

2001-08-27 Thread John Lewis

Odd thing is that linux/solaris files come down correctly. And I've
down-loaded other zips for NT in the past with no problems. 

This seems like a recent problem. 

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If you do not use a download manager like getright, you will almost always
download broken files.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from
technet.oracle.com.  I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but
gunzip is not recognizing the files.  I switched back to Windoze and using
Winzip it doesnt like the files either.  So I redownloaded just the smaller
third file and neither will uncompress the file.  Am I missing something
here?

I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work,
so I have been downloading the files using Windoze.  Could that be the
problem??

TIA!!

Chris
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RE: How do you audit a DBA?

2001-08-23 Thread John Lewis

'..fire him, not the trigger.'

ver-y clever.

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Oh hell, if you don't trust him, just fire him, not the trigger. 



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Anyone who can help,

I've been asked if Oracle can somehow audit the DBA ie. Raise an alert if
the DBA were to execute DML statements against sensitive tables, this
assumes the DBA has the SYS password.  I thought this was a pretty
reasonable question but couldn't think of an answer.  My trail of though was
maybe an email alert to a designated member of staff sent via a trigger on
the table.

Any comments would be very appreciated.

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RE: OT:I was thrown out of the list

2001-08-09 Thread John Lewis



Was this really 
necessary?

  -Original Message-From: JOE TESTA 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:16 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  OT:I was thrown out of the list
  it was
  
  cozur anoviceOracle Certifiable 
  DBBS
  
  joe 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/09/01 12:44PM 
  Hi,
   I did not receive a mail for two 
  days, I started smelling rat and sent a test mail to the list. I was told I am 
  not a member. Is it some revamping happening or I was thrown out because did 
  people start receiving viruses from my id ???
  list administrator please help
  jared
  bruce
  
  please explain
  cozI am anoviceOracle Certifiable 
  DBBS


RE: OT Dorothy Parker :)

2001-08-09 Thread John Lewis

We did that about 8 months ago. 'They' promised my load 
would not increase. Hah!

I'm looking for another position now. Problem is, it's a tight
market.

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Congratulations on your survival Shrek.  Having more work is better than
having NO work.

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geez, is it friday yet?  i hope so, cuz we just got done laying off 25% of
the people here.

same work + less people := get-out-of-dodge-NOW.


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RE: Documentation for pricing database

2001-08-01 Thread John Lewis

That's because what Oracle charges is an intricate formula involving the
day of the week, the number of caribou currently calving and
your height.

(I may have exaggerated about the caribou part)

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Hi Gurus,

Can anyone suggest some kind of documentation I can use to develop a
pricing/costing database in Oracle?  I have been looking around for a
reference manula but they are quite general.


Thanks,
Mark

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RE: Can't code for s.... peanuts

2001-07-23 Thread John Lewis



I'm no 
fucntion guru - BUT - I don't think they are stand-alone. You 
need
to use 
them in a sql statement.

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  ORACLE-LSubject: Can't code for s peanuts
  Hi again everybody, 
  
  I'll try to be as descriptive as possible, sorry 
  if I leave anything important out. 
  
  I have the following function which I'm compiling 
  using PL/SQL Developer (tnx Djordje). 
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION check_for_name 
  (p_name_to_check VARCHAR)RETURN BOOLEAN 
  ISCURSOR c_namestbl ISSELECT 
  lnameFROM namesWHERE lname = 
  p_name_to_check;v_return_value 
  BOOLEAN;BEGINOPEN c_namestbl;IF 
  c_namestbl%NOTFOUND THENv_return_value := 
  FALSE;ELSIF C_namestbl%FOUND 
  THENv_return_value := TRUE; END 
  IF;RETURN v_return_value;CLOSE 
  c_namestbl;END check_for_name;
  It compiles without errors (now). 
  The table 'names' is built like this :
  SVRMGR DESCRIBE names;Column 
  Name 
  Null? Type--  
  FNAME 
  VARCHAR2(20)LNAME 
  VARCHAR2(20)SVRMGR
  With data like this :
  SVRMGR SELECT * FROM 
  names;FNAME 
  LNAME 
  Bruce 
  WillisSalma 
  HayekTom 
  CruiseElle 
  McPherson4 rows selected.
  But, whenever I try to do this :
  EXECUTE check_for_name('Cruise');
  so I can run the function from PL/SQL Developer I 
  get the following error :
  "ORA 0900 - Invalid SQL Statment"
  However, If I execute the same statement from 
  SQL*Plus or svrmgrl I get a differant error :
  SVRMGR EXECUTE 
  check_for_name('Cruise');check_for_name('Cruise');*ORA-06550: 
  line 2, column 2:PLS-00221: 'CHECK_FOR_NAME' is not a procedure or is 
  undefinedORA-06550: line 2, column 2:PL/SQL: Statement 
  ignored
  I'm running Oracle Enterprise Edition 8.1.5.0.0 on 
  Windows 2000. 
  If that's not enough info, please let me know and I 
  will supply whatever I can. 
  Thanks for reading this far :)
  Michael.
  
  
  


RE: dbassist ???

2001-07-19 Thread John Lewis

Make sure you have the solaris memory parameters set properly.
If in doubt, generate the scripts - run them one at a time.

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Hi,

Does anybody has any luck running 815 dbassist to
create a database on Sun 5.6?  When I runned it, the
first couple of pages work fine, then it stuck at
creating database page, the status bar shows 0% for a
long while.  Eventually I killed it.  

I used this tool a while ago to save the creating db
code in a script, but that script didn't run well
either.

Any suggestion?

Janet

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Oracle listener security patch -

2001-07-18 Thread John Lewis

Just installed p1859778_8162_Solaris patch for listener security problems.
Before I installed it - everything was hunky-dory.
Afterwards the listener wouldn't start any 'services'.
Haven't tried metallink yet.

Anybody had this problem?

(Using 8.1.6.2 on Sun Solaris) 

TIA -
john f. lewis

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RE: alert log is not capturing all errors

2001-07-12 Thread John Lewis



You may be thinking of Sybase. 
That is one neat feature about it.

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RE: 9i standby

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RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..

2001-07-05 Thread John Lewis

Ditto. This 'renter' thing sounds like some sort of thinly veiled
discrimination. 

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Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote:
O We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested
O in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working
with
O other recruiters for Phoenix companies.

Now why in the world would any of this matter?

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RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE ques.

2001-07-02 Thread John Lewis

Ditto here. 
It solves the re-coding-using-vars problem. The java programmers are such
whiners (I hope none of them read this list!).

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2) Anyone out there using it?  Does it give that much better performance 
gains?  It seems to me like it's not worth implementing.

we're using it, on 8.1.6  No problems so far, and it relieved the problem of

not being able to get a chunk of memory for the shared pool and having to 
flush. My programmers wrote their code using constants... on insert 
statements in a registration system. So my sqlarea was getting filled with 
identical statements, except for the value of the constant.

Rather than make them recode (trust me, I would have had to get the rack and

thumbscrews out to make that happen), I turned on cursor_sharing=force and 
it's worked like a dream.

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RE: Limiting Oracle Memory

2001-06-21 Thread John Lewis

Hmmm...
Why keep the pl/sql table in memory? Why not just a regular table that's
cached (sp.?)

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Hi all,
I have a procedure that seems to be bringing my server to it's
knees.
Winnt, Oracle 817 (Pipe down Ross:))
Anyway, what happens is a pl/sql table is placed into memory and then later
on it will be written to the disk.  However, by the time the process is
about to get to the writing part the machine is dead.  The Oracle.exe
process is well over 700MBs and the Virtual Memory is over a gig and a
half!!  Is there anyway for me to limit this, I tried using the registry
entry ORA_WORKINGSETMAX, however that doesn't seem to work.  Has anyone used
this setting?  Are you just supposed to put a number in the entry?  I put
600 but nothing happens.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Sincerely,
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RE: Working from home

2001-06-13 Thread John Lewis

How did you handle accountability?
 If they can't trust you to do your work find another company.
 And have some set goals you want to accomplish.
  How
did you handle communication between work and home? 
 Email, cellphone

 What were some of the
unforeseen problems that you encountered?
 Sometimes you can't get an answer unless you're in someones face


  Were there any specific company
benefits? 
 I get more done at home than at work. Especially defined tasks
 like exp/imp, triggers, procedures etc..

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Regarding the Prior thread about SQL/Database tools

2001-06-06 Thread John Lewis

I use both Toad and EZSQL. Mostly Toad. 
Lately I have been drilling down into the many neat things
EZSQL does and discovering hidden gems.

We paid $500 for Toad and $50 for EZSQL. EZSQL is a true bargain.


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RE: Space Estimation (numbers)

2001-05-21 Thread John Lewis

Oracle stores the avg_row_length in all_tables view.
Use analyze_schema to get the most recent numbers.

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Thanks for the info. I know about the VSIZE function,
but how do I estimate the amount of space manually?
What about negatives, fractional values, etc.? These
all require differing amounts of space.

Thanks again.
Walt



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 You use the VSIZE() function. And you are right
 about 1 not taking the
 same amount of size as 9. 1 uses 2 bytes and
 9 uses 4.
 
 SQL select vsize(1), vsize(9) from dual;
 
 VSIZE(1) VSIZE(9)
  
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 Hi,
 
 How do I calculate the amount of physical space
 required for storing a number? (i.e. NUMBER,
 NUMBER(5), NUMBER(10,5), etc.) I believe Oracle uses
 2's compliment for storing numbers. A value of
 1
 does not seem to take up the same amount of space as
 9.
 
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RE: ....A drop schema script ??

2001-05-17 Thread John Lewis

Login in as system:
drop user user_name cascade;

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All mighty and powerful DBA supremes !

Do any of you have a drop schema script that would be willing to share
??
It'll be greatly appreciated

T I A

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RE: Mean/Median

2001-05-15 Thread John Lewis

Thanks to all...

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geez louise, 

Median := avg(Max,Min)

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||  Any scripts (sql or pl/sql) out there to compute various 
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||  in Oracle?
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|| 
|| Would depend on just what you are looking for. A quick look at
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|| although no median but that should be easier to write than 
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RE: a bit of a brag...

2001-05-14 Thread John Lewis

Wonderful. But now I really feel old!

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Congratulations. Apparently you did a great job.

Michael Armstead
Application Database Administrator, OCP-Certified
US Pharmaceuticals IT
Glaxo SmithKline

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 Follow the link below for a nice picture and a little blurb.
 
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RE: Anybody Using Veritas Database Edition

2001-05-09 Thread John Lewis

We use Veritas. And are very happy with it. 
I'm not sure which 'flavor'. If you're interested I'll
give you the email of our systems guru. 

Respond to my email.

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Greetings,
We are evaluating Veritas Database Edition and we are scheduled to meet
with their technical people for a presentation next week. I have to say it
looks pretty good on paper. Has anyone on the list used this product
before? I would like to know from the other users how the product perform
for a medium shop ( 35 databases sized from 2g to 140g ) like us.
TIA
Dennis Meng
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RE: sorry,

2001-05-07 Thread John Lewis

Geeze! It's getting a little vicious here.

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Learn how to spell! 

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i was trying to get commands from listguru and obviously typed the wrong
address

...and no Mr. Hutchins, an idiot would be the jerk who sends that type of
misanthropic respone to an obvious error.

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RE: move schema away from system table space

2001-04-17 Thread John Lewis


1. Export the user's schema ( exp help=y )

2. issue in sqlplus:

drop user_name cascade;

3. then remake the user with the new table space as the default tablespace (
all permissions there - none elsewhere ).

4. imp the user from the export dump with ignore=y

regards -

john f. lewis

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Hi All,
I need to move a user/schema away from the system
tablespace to a newly created user tablespace. Could
somebody point me to the references on how to do the
job? Since a production server is running off the
schema, is it possible to do the move without having
to shut down the server?
Thanks a lot.
WL

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RE: Do not belive BUSH and your army goverment so much

2001-04-16 Thread John Lewis

Perhaps we should keep ideologies/politics off of this list.
If anyone (Chinese or American) wants to debate they are lots of other lists
set up for that. Take it there. I'm here for Oracle not
bashing.

regards -

john f. lewis



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right now, I understand US people also just belive TV or news. The news
always controlled by goverment or service for the goverment. This fact is
for sure that US is high-handed and arbitrary.  US army fly to all over the
world and control all the world. I hate this but I feel so frustrated that
US army is No.1 in this world and all over the world can not even say a "NO"
to US.
Right now, I know many US people do not understand Chinese, Chinese do love
peace very much. Many things, these days, China are better than US now. You
should go and have a look in China. Do not be so stupid and arbitrary. Do
not belive BUSH and your army goverment so much. When the army is so good,
they want to invade China or some other coutries. I hate China does not have
good people rights. But I hate US is so impolite when they know they will
win on every army fight.
What I have forcasted are becoming true now. When BUSH was selected as
president. I forcasted he would make many bad things and use his army.
Today I forcast he will  invade China more and put all Chinese in extreme
misery. He will because he is the people who care too much about army...He
do not care about high-tech, you are losing your good salary now...You have
lose you stock options.
Just one more fact, yesterday I watched the TV, the announcer used
intimidatory voice that made very unhappy, "fuck you", I growl to the TV.
Just because you have the No.1 army so you can do all the things? Sorry for
this post because it is not about ORACLE. If US and China finish the
relationship, at least 10% more of you will lose your job.

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 They ought to learn flying their bikes from ET.. leave fighter plane
flying
 to others..

 -Kirti
  -Original Message-
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  Subject: RE: stupid DBA
 
  Well, according to the stereotype, they aren't very good
  drivers, so maybe it was inevitable.
  ep
 
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/14 6:15 PM 
   How was it mean? Considering how well they seem to do their job, it
  would be
   a heck of a lot easier to become a Chinese fighter pilot than a nurse.


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RE: OT -- Canada and U.S. (was: oracle and America)

2001-03-14 Thread John Lewis
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RE: NOVELL

2001-03-13 Thread John Lewis

You'll be using Dr. DOS next.

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Wow, we've just been bought out by Novell. Novell?? I haven't even
thought about them for at least 3-4 years.

Henry
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RE: Removing files with PL/SQL

2001-03-02 Thread John Lewis

Sure.

use utl_file utility. 
Write to a file , that another process reads, have it execute the command.
Minor security hole but, it will work. Need to make parse strings so nothing

'bad' gets written to the file.

Or

Have a process, read a table that has files to be deleted ( we use this in
house)

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Good suggestion, but 'host' only works within SQLPLUS (unless I am
mistaken).  Any other ideas?

Alan

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How about the host command. This will shell out to the os and process the
command.

host erase c:\my_dir\my_file.txt

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/02/01 02:32PM 
Hey listers,

Does anyone know of a way to remove files from an O/S file system using
PL/SQL without calling a java or an external C routine?

Thanks,

Alan

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RE: OFFTOPIC: Spam.

2001-02-15 Thread John Lewis

H...
"Primative (excessive) but effective"

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I think publishing the spammer's home address and phone number is excessive.
What do you think, that we're all going to go over there and picket?  Or
start calling and asking if he has Prince Albert in a can?


Paul Baumgartel
InstiPro, Inc.
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917 549-4717 (mobile)


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No offense all, but I don't see why everyone is so upset about this email.
It pertained to Oracle and we recieved it once.  It's as if I recieved an
interesting email and sent it to all of you, why so upset?

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AFAIK - The spammer's home info is

 800 Michelle Court
 Lanoka Harbor, NJ 08734-1828
 609 971 7296

Below is the reponse I got from my nasty-gram to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hope that he's learned his lesson  won't spam us again.

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