RE: Temporarily Renaming the sgadefSID.dbf File

2001-04-17 Thread Morrow, Steve

Good Morning!

Just wanted to thank everybody for their responses and excellent feedback.
Renaming the file worked like a charm.  This allowed me to create the
controlfile of the new database and bring it up w/o any problems.  

Now I know :-)

Steve

  -Original Message-
 From: Morrow, Steve  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:36 PM
 To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject:  Temporarily Renaming the sgadefSID.dbf File
 
 Hi All,
 
 Trying to clone our PROD to a test database on the same machine for
 testing our 734--8i upgrade, and of course we're encountering the
 "can't-start-the-new-without-shutting-down-the-old" database problem (ie,
 ORA-9782 on the CREATE CONTROLFILE command).  We've worked around this in
 the past by scheduling a time to bring down PROD.
 
 I know that this is the safest, most reliable way (besides NOT doing this
 on a production box...but I have no choice), but believe it or not, I
 actually saw a reference on a Metalink forum to rename the sgadefSID.dbf
 file, start up the new database, then rename the file to its original
 name.  Obviously sgadef gets created at instance startup as a memory map,
 but it doesn't look like it's used for anything after that (it's certainly
 doesn't seem to be written to).  I do know that you can get an octal dump
 of the file to determine the shared memory ID for whatever reason.
 
 Everything else I've heard/seen about this file has pretty much said DON'T
 TOUCH IT!!!  But if the instance only uses it at instance startup, is
 there any harm in renaming it temporarily to get the other database up?
 If so...why?
 
 And have any of you tried renaming or deleting the file in your cloning
 (or other) efforts?  Did it blow up, or work?
 
 TIA,
  Steve
 _
  Steve Morrow
  IT/Tech Support
  University of South Florida
  phone:  813-974-5519
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Temporarily Renaming the sgadefSID.dbf File

2001-04-10 Thread Morrow, Steve

Hi All,

Trying to clone our PROD to a test database on the same machine for testing
our 734--8i upgrade, and of course we're encountering the
"can't-start-the-new-without-shutting-down-the-old" database problem (ie,
ORA-9782 on the CREATE CONTROLFILE command).  We've worked around this in
the past by scheduling a time to bring down PROD.

I know that this is the safest, most reliable way (besides NOT doing this on
a production box...but I have no choice), but believe it or not, I actually
saw a reference on a Metalink forum to rename the sgadefSID.dbf file, start
up the new database, then rename the file to its original name.  Obviously
sgadef gets created at instance startup as a memory map, but it doesn't look
like it's used for anything after that (it's certainly doesn't seem to be
written to).  I do know that you can get an octal dump of the file to
determine the shared memory ID for whatever reason.

Everything else I've heard/seen about this file has pretty much said DON'T
TOUCH IT!!!  But if the instance only uses it at instance startup, is there
any harm in renaming it temporarily to get the other database up?  If
so...why?

And have any of you tried renaming or deleting the file in your cloning (or
other) efforts?  Did it blow up, or work?

TIA,
 Steve
_
 Steve Morrow
 IT/Tech Support
 University of South Florida
 phone:  813-974-5519
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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