Re: 4 join methods?

2001-05-31 Thread PD Miller

At 22:55 -0800 30/5/01, Rukmini Devi wrote:
1. Equi-join 2. Self-join 3. Outer-join  4. Hash-join

Outer join is a logical type not an access method.

the four types of join that Oracle can use:

Nested Loops join
Sort Merge join (equi-join only)
Cluster join (equi-join on cluster key only)
Hash join (equijoin, cost-based only)

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Re: 4 join methods?

2001-05-31 Thread PD Miller

At 9:07 -0800 31/5/01, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
There is certainly something new called an index join around in 8i.

An index join is a hash join on 2 or more indexes which between them
contain all the columns required to fulfill the query. It is new to
8i, and is considered to be an access pathl but strangely is not
considered to be a join method; probably because it is a hybrid of
the hash join using indices only.

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RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread PD Miller

At 8:10 -0800 30/5/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In earlier versions (7.3 ?) 'analyze ..compute' used to take table 
level locks. From 8 onwards, compute or estimate does not take any 
table level or row level locks at all...

Sorry, not true. From at least 7.2.3 (the oldest I have here) there 
was no table-level locking for any analyze statement.

As for the preferment for estimate, Oracle has the last laugh - if 
you estimate on a percentage greater than 50% or specify rows greater 
than half the number of rows in the table, Oracle analyzes the entire 
table.

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RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread PD Miller

I've just spent most of today repairing damage left at a site by some 
of Oracle's 'superior' consultants!

At 8:27 -0800 25/5/01, Gary Weber wrote:
Far as their superior i-dba team, I sure hope those are different 
people from the ones you get on first line of Support...

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Re: OFF TOPIC: My Unix mail file is too huge to access

2001-05-24 Thread PD Miller

At 13:49 -0800 24/5/01, Jenny Jacobson wrote:
How do I get into my old mail so I can 1) delete old messages and
2) access a VERY important email that I need to use.

Eudora uses the exact format used for unix mail files, so I recommend that.

I don't think my unix account has a pop3 server.  Someone suggested I ftp
the file to my PC and read it there.  When I did a file command, it said
the mail file was ASCII text, but my important email has an attached Excel
spreadsheet.  Do I ftp in ASCII or binary mode?

Binary for certain. Eudora can sort out the attachment format as long 
as the file has not been translated. Not just email, but with 
everything, use binary only. Even if you need the line terminators 
translated, ftp is the worst way on earth to do it.

I don't have any mail
software on my PC (I use a shell account and Yahoo).  I don't want to use
my Yahoo account to process this huge file via pop3.

http://www.eudora.com/ and it is free.

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Re: Perl oracle

2001-05-21 Thread PD Miller

At 20:35 -0800 20/5/01, Seley, Linda wrote:
Oh, Perl gurus, is there a function in perl that will let me do connect
internal?

$dbh = DBI-connect(DBI:Oracle:, internal,,{ ora_session_mode = 2 });

But before you get carried away, it may not do what you want. If for 
example you were hoping that this could be used to startup/shutdown, 
it won't, at least not in the current DBD::Oracle. There was a 
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RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-16 Thread PD Miller

At 11:32 -0800 16/5/01, Jacques Kilchoer wrote:
One of my former colleagues worked in Saudi Arabia and said that the 
life there was very quiet and much different from our western 
lifestyle. However, in his opinion, if you made the effort to 
respect the local traditions, you could live there and tour the 
country with not too many difficulties. The important thing was to 
be prepared for their customs.

I couldn't agree more. I didn't work in Saudi, but in Kuwait where I 
had about 100 (1/1000 lakh - best use that one before I forget it) 
staff mostly from the UK and US. Several people had a hard time 
adjusting, but those that respected local custom and showed an 
interest in and respect for Kuwaitis enjoyed themselves immensely. 
Some stayed after their year was up and I know of one woman that is 
still there 10 years later!

For me, I would relish the opportunity to work in that environment 
again. I found the Kuwaitis and people of the Gulf very friendly, 
trustworthy, and kind. I got used to leaving my house unlocked, the 
keys in my car, and my office open. The displays of hospitality I was 
shown shamed me when I thought of how ex-pats are treated in some 
other countries. And my clients did something I have never 
experienced before or since: said what they wanted and when, then 
left me to do it with no interference!

Oh, and Bahrain (with its bars and liberal lifestyle) was only a 
short and cheap flight away...

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