RE: Remote DBA
It can be Unix as well as Windows. As I have to support various DB's Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoihttp://www22.brinkster.com/rpapnoi (Brainbench Brainbuzz certified Oracle 8/8i DBA Developer) -Original Message- Adar Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You did not mentioned what OS you are working on. If the remote database is on your network, even via wan, you can activate all the tools from your desktop. We use RAS to connect to remote servers without network connections and then you have SLOW network connection and your tools will work. If the need arise you can use Netop or other PcAnywhere to take control of the server and do your work from there. We are on windows servers and clients. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:34 PM Dear All Can anyone of u throw light on how remote dbas work. I would appreaciate if any whitepaper / document on this topic is sent to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIA Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoi -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ramesh Papnoi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ramesh Papnoi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Remote DBA
Thanks all for ur feedback. I would add little more into it now. Now as far as Administering is concerned it can be done on any OS Well!. How about Backup and recovery, because it requires the Manual steps as to change tapes etc and How the Remote System Administrator co-ordinates with Remote-DBA. My guess is that it should be thru chat programs or telecon. I also guess that The backup part may not be that much complicated compared to Recovery in the conversation between Remote System Administrator and Remote-DBA. I am assuming that Remote System Admin is poor or less knowledgeable into Relational DATABASES, It happens sometimes :) Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoihttp://www22.brinkster.com/rpapnoi -Original Message- Flores Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Chris, VNC and OpenSSH are slow and VNC is still a little unstable (IMHO), I personally manage my windows 2000 Oracle DB with a VPN and then a Terminal server window direct to my desktop - from there I have all the tools that I usually have - notepad, mspaint, dir :). I hate to have to plug windows products, but if it were linux or unix, then it would be a different story, seeing as though it matters little where you are physically on a Linux/Unix box (SSH Telnet, or an XWindow Session with the display set to your own IP)... Anyone knows what Big Larry uses to connect to his Database? :) Nelson Flores Project Manager Intec -Mensaje original- De: Chris Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Miércoles, 02 de Abril de 2003 19:09 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunto: RE: Remote DBA I do both platforms, my recommendation is OpenSSH + VNC, they work great, they're free, and they're available for both platforms. Chris Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator JM Associates Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken. -- Duke Leto Atreides _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Chris Berry INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nelson Flores INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ramesh Papnoi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: certifications was Re: Remote DBA
Joe,Dennis John U must b knowing OCP takes $$ and these were free of cost, done around 1~1.5 years back. Now these are also chargeable. Anyway I am going to remove those from my signature!! (Offcourse, I am not adding a new signature as ListMember for [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoihttp://www22.brinkster.com/rpapnoi -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John - Thanks for the encouragement. I'll get cracking on the next exam this weekend!! Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Say what you think Joe, When I have been looking for contacts several agencies have asked me to take those tests as a means of ensuring that I know what I am supposed to know. They act as a pre-interview filter If it sorts the wheat from the chaff then I don't think they perform a bad service in that respect. However as far as being touted as a professional qualification as Ramesh is using them then I think I would forget about it. I think anybody who contributes to this list claiming to be this, that or the other is setting himself up for a fall. Dennis has got the idea by having 40% OCP in his sig (however that has been there so long now that the exams probably need re-taking now ) John -Original Message- Sent: 03 April 2003 12:24 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ramesh, since in your sig line you say you're brainbench and brainbuzz certified, do you really think those tests have any meaning, i took them and thought they were a joke. joe Ramesh Papnoi wrote: It can be Unix as well as Windows. As I have to support various DB's Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoi http://www22.brinkster.com/rpapnoi (Brainbench Brainbuzz certified Oracle 8/8i DBA Developer) -Original Message- Adar Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You did not mentioned what OS you are working on. If the remote database is on your network, even via wan, you can activate all the tools from your desktop. We use RAS to connect to remote servers without network connections and then you have SLOW network connection and your tools will work. If the need arise you can use Netop or other PcAnywhere to take control of the server and do your work from there. We are on windows servers and clients. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:34 PM Dear All Can anyone of u throw light on how remote dbas work. I would appreaciate if any whitepaper / document on this topic is sent to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIA Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoi -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ramesh Papnoi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting 614-791-9000 It's all about the CACHE -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L
Remote DBA
Dear All Can anyone of u throw light on how remote dbas work. I would appreaciate if any whitepaper / document on this topic is sent to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIA Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoi -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ramesh Papnoi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Remote DBA
Thanks Goulet,Dennis for the feedback. I have already searched for and found the same thru google. But could not found and docs/whitepaper link on this. Suppose we have to do DBAdmin job for our on server remotely then how we should go about it. Can u or anybody else explain! thanks in advance. Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoi -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ramesh If you visit the web sites of vendors that provide this type of service, you may find the white papers you desire. I went to Google and typed Oracle remote dba and found a lot of sites. In general terms, these companies work by first getting to know your site, having one of their employees come to your site for a week or two. Then they require you to install some monitoring software like BMC Patrol. Then you work together to set some guidelines on what they will monitor and what action they will take under certain circumstances. In addition, they can perform staff augmentation tasks as you desire. For example, if your site doesn't have the staff to upgrade to a newer Oracle version, they can plan that task and perform the upgrade. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dear All Can anyone of u throw light on how remote dbas work. I would appreaciate if any whitepaper / document on this topic is sent to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIA Best Regards Ramesh D. Papnoi -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ramesh Papnoi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ramesh Papnoi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
