Re: Question on on delete cascade functionality

2001-07-24 Thread William Beilstein

While a ON DELETE trigger would do what you want, why don't you want to rebuild the 
constraint?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/01 08:05AM 
sounds like a trigger is needed.

joe
Ranganath K wrote:
 
 Dear DBA Gurus,
 How to add the functionality of on delete cascade to an existing foreign
 key constraint without dropping the constraint and recreating it using
 Alter command?
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RE: Update ALL colums without knowing their name??-correction

2001-07-24 Thread William Beilstein

Then do a 

Delete from table;

which will remove all rows while leaving the previous data for the other users until 
you commit;

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/01 03:35PM 
Hi,

Thank you for your answer.

Unfortunatelly I can't truncate, then insert into ... select ( I myself 
thought about it before )because
the tables are always used ( there are always a few users connecting to 
database).

Thank you

Zsolt Csillag
Hungary

At 13:52 2001.07.23. -0800, you wrote:

Are you just trying to totally refresh table1 from table 2?

how about:

1.  TRUNCATE table1;

2.  INSERT INTO table1 SELECT * FROM table2;
(assuming structures of the two tables are compatible)

Or am I just totally missing the mark in what you are looking to do?


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Hi,

I need an universal update procedure in which I don' t know the colums name.

How can I make an update like this:

Update Table1 set Every_columns = ( Select * from Table2)

I tried set Table1.* wiht no result.
How can I work around this?


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Re: get yesterdays date

2001-07-23 Thread William Beilstein

select sysdate-1 from dual;

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 07:35AM 
Anyone know how to get yesterdays date in PL/SQL?

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Re: Newbie kinda question

2001-07-23 Thread William Beilstein

Purchase the D2K package from Oracle. However Procedure Builder is being phased out by 
Oracle.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 10:55AM 
Hi Everybody,

I'm currently studying for some Oracle Certification from a private organization, 
which will then put me through the Oracle DBA exams. I'm currently working on the 
PL/SQL programming modules. All the information I have consistently refers to 
Procedure Builder for programming with PL/SQL. However, I cannot seem to find where I 
can get a copy of Procedure Builder. I have gotten a copy of TOAD, however I'm not 
entirely happy with it. Statements which are allowed to run in SQL*Plus are not being 
run under TOAD for some reason. 

So, in summary, where can I get a copy of Procedure Builder ?

Thanks,
Michael.


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RE: Wildly OT. - Air fares

2001-07-23 Thread William Beilstein

No site that I know of can get you a reservation over a year in the future, but a 
ticket for mid September 2001 would be $97.00 on Jet Blue Airlines, which is a low 
cost airlines that runs only brand new jets and is a very good airline. To purchase 
tickets (later in the year) go to http://www.jetblue.com  Jet Blue flies out of JFK 
airport in New York and into Seattle. You will also need to pay an airline  tax of 
$8.75 to the US Government. Have a great time in the US.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 12:16PM 
One way, around about mid september 2002 (Grizzly Bear watching at Knights
Inlet BC).

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One way or round trip. What date?  The longer period between the purchase of
the ticket and when you are going will usually mean a cheaper flight.

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Rachel (or any other NYC listers). 
 
Any idea how much an airticket from N.Y to Vancouver/Seattle would be please
 
TIA
 
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Re: Can't code for s.... peanuts

2001-07-23 Thread William Beilstein

Have you applied the function against the database. For example if you type

select owner,object_name
from all_objects
where object_name = 'CHECK_FOR_NAME';

If nothing is returned, it has not been stored in the database or you don't have 
rights to view it using your current schema. If you did put it in the database, did it 
go in with NO errors.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 02:26PM 
Hi again everybody, 

I'll try to be as descriptive as possible, sorry if I leave anything important out. 

I have the following function which I'm compiling using PL/SQL Developer (tnx 
Djordje). 
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION check_for_name (
p_name_to_check VARCHAR)

RETURN BOOLEAN IS

CURSOR c_namestbl IS
SELECT lname
FROM names
WHERE lname = p_name_to_check;
v_return_value BOOLEAN;

BEGIN
OPEN c_namestbl;
IF c_namestbl%NOTFOUND THEN
v_return_value := FALSE;
ELSIF C_namestbl%FOUND THEN
v_return_value := TRUE; 
END IF;
RETURN v_return_value;
CLOSE c_namestbl;
END check_for_name;

It compiles without errors (now). 

The table 'names' is built like this :

SVRMGR DESCRIBE names;
Column NameNull?Type
--  
FNAME   VARCHAR2(20)
LNAME   VARCHAR2(20)
SVRMGR

With data like this :

SVRMGR SELECT * FROM names;
FNAMELNAME
 
BruceWillis
SalmaHayek
Tom  Cruise
Elle McPherson
4 rows selected.

But, whenever I try to do this :

EXECUTE check_for_name('Cruise');

so I can run the function from PL/SQL Developer I get the following error :

ORA 0900 - Invalid SQL Statment

However, If I execute the same statement from SQL*Plus or svrmgrl I get a differant 
error :

SVRMGR EXECUTE check_for_name('Cruise');
 check_for_name('Cruise');
 *
ORA-06550: line 2, column 2:
PLS-00221: 'CHECK_FOR_NAME' is not a procedure or is undefined
ORA-06550: line 2, column 2:
PL/SQL: Statement ignored

I'm running Oracle Enterprise Edition 8.1.5.0.0 on Windows 2000. 

If that's not enough info, please let me know and I will supply whatever I can. 

Thanks for reading this far :)

Michael.








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Re: Update ALL colums without knowing their name??

2001-07-23 Thread William Beilstein

If all you are trying to do is replace the rows in table1 with the contents of table2 
do the following

truncate table table1;
insert into table1 select * from table2;
commit;

If you want to append the data, leave out the truncate.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 05:33PM 


Hi,

I need an universal update procedure in which I don' t know the colums name.

How can I make an update like this:

Update Table1 set Every_columns = ( Select * from Table2)


I tried set Table1.* wiht no result.
How can I work around this?

Thank you in advance

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Re: pls help..

2001-07-20 Thread William Beilstein

It sounds like someone made a datafile on a raw disk.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/01 08:46AM 
hi list,

can anyone pls explain it.
i've found a datafile related to a new tablespace TABSPACE_2 ( not created by me) in 
v$datafile view. the path of datafile is also ambiguous..
i.e. something like.. DISKA:TABSPACE_FILE2.DAT
no full path is shown.. and also i could'nt find the file on my system. this is 
surprising me a lot..

the TS is shown created on yesterday and is of 20 mb in size.
how do i figure out, why is it so. how do it came here with such file location.
i've 815 on NT

pls suggest. thanks.

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Re: how to make PL/SQL wait for 60 seconds

2001-07-20 Thread William Beilstein

The following code would sleep for 60 seconds.

declare 
val number; 
begin 
val := 60; 
DBMS_LOCK.sleep(t); 
end; 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/01 08:46AM 
I want to put a sleep or wait in my PL/SQL function

Is there an easy way to do this?

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Re: UNIX

2001-07-16 Thread William Beilstein

What are you trying to do? If you need more space in a tablespace, you can create a 
datafile on /u03. If you actually need additional space on /u06, you will need to 
manage your drives with a DISK/Volume management software such as DiskSuite on 
Solaris. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/01 01:45PM 
Is anyone familiar with how to grab space in one file system and allocate it
to another?
For example, if file system /u03 is at 3% and /u06 is at 80%, how can I grab
space from the 
/u03 file system and allocate to /u06??

TIA,

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Re: OT: UNIX SA

2001-07-09 Thread William Beilstein

What UNIX OS are you interested in administering? While many commands are the same, 
there are differences between the various flavors of Unix.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/01 11:55AM 
Dear list !
I'd like to start getting into some beginner level UNIX (Solaris) system
administration .
I have some knowledge in UNIX  (scripting, basic commands , etc ... -
user/programmer/DBA level , not a sys. admin. level).
Can U please recommend what to start with ?
I prefer free resources on the web over the books i'll have to buy, off
course.
Thanks a lot for your recommendations.
Andrey.

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Re: Oracle support phone number

2001-07-09 Thread William Beilstein

1-800-223-1711 . Please be aware that this number will require you to enter your CSI 
number and it will only work for those people who have a gold or silver support 
contract.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/01 04:05PM 
Could somebody give me support 800 or long dist. phone number. I know that I
need to log itar first but this is a damagement request and I cannot find
mine.

Alex Hillman

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Re: Need help getting started

2001-06-20 Thread William Beilstein

My first question is what is your field of study in school? Is it computer related? 
Have you graduated, many employers want to see you graduate before they will hire you. 
Have you asked any of your larger companies about any IS extern programs that they 
might have. If you have graduated, have you put your resume into some of the job 
search engines like monster.com or hotjobs.com? Don't give up, the IS field is still 
hot, but not equally hot around the country. You might want to think about relocating 
(after getting a job) to a better job market.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/19/01 11:15PM 
This is kind of a different Oracle question. Does anyone have any suggestions 
how a person can land an entry level job. I do not work in the Technology 
field but would very much like to. I have been going to school at night for 
about two and a half years
and have the first two OCP developers tests behind me and am working on the 
third now. I have a 3.9 GPA and can't even get an interview. How do you get 
experience if no one will hire you? I have even offered to work for free in 
the evenings or on my days off. I live in Minneapolis and would really 
appreciate any suggestions that anyone might have. Thanks,
Karen

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Re: SQL DISTINCT alternate

2001-06-20 Thread William Beilstein

UNIQUE is just another way of saying DISTINCT. They do the same thing.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/20/01 02:26PM 
What about using UNIQUE

Select UNIQUE.

Seema Singh wrote:

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 In a sql stmt what will be the impact if we used DISTINCT clause and how we
 can overcomes on the performance bottleneck caused by DISTINCT.
 like ... SELECT DISTINCT A,B,C FROM TAB_1
 I want to get same output without using distinct?Is this possible?If, YES
 then how?
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Re: user defined data type

2001-06-20 Thread William Beilstein

A date field contains both the date  and time. If you only want to display the time 
use a call to to_char(my_date,'HH:MM:SS'). If for some reason you REALLY only want to 
store the time of day, I would store the number of seconds since midnight in a number. 
for example 6:32.35pm would be (18*60*60) + (32*60)+35 or 66755. This would allow the 
user to sort by the time. A third way would be to use a varchar2 field and store the 
time as HHMMSS or using my example above '183235'.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/20/01 02:54PM 
Hi,

Developers need a datatype which only stores the time portion of date i.e.
HH24:MI:SS...
Any ideas how to create this data type.

Thanks
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Re: duel error

2001-06-19 Thread William Beilstein

And one more thing. The table dual has one column called dummy with is defined as 
varchar2(1). and contains ONE row with the value of 'X'.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/19/01 02:13PM 
Who were you logged on as when you recreated it? Did you create a public
synonym for user.dual?  You should create the table as sys.dual and create
the public synonym for it. That should fix your problem

HTH,
Ruth
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 hi
 i accidentally  dropped duel table from sys..then recreated it.
 now when i am using rman during running the catrman.sql for
recovery_catalog
 it is flashing error

 select '08.00.05' from dual
 *
 ERROR at line 2:
 ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

 u'r help is highly appreciated

 Shirish Khapre, SE Rolta India Ltd.
 Off Ph No. (+91) (022) 832,826,8300568
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RE: duel error

2001-06-19 Thread William Beilstein

Wrong, DUAL is a table owner by the SYS user that contains one row. Check your 
DBA_TABLES and DBA_OBJECTS views.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/19/01 03:56PM 
Dual is not a table.

It just a placeholder.

At 11:04 AM 6/19/01 -0800, you wrote:
You could always just run catalog.sql as sys.

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Your email says duel. You created dual, with an a, right?

And did you grant select on dual to public? And create a
public synonym for it?

HTH,

Yosi


Shirish Khapre wrote:

  hi
  i accidentally  dropped duel table from sys..then recreated it.
  now when i am using rman during running the catrman.sql for
recovery_catalog
  it is flashing error
 
  select '08.00.05' from dual
  *
  ERROR at line 2:
  ORA-00942: table or view does not exist
 
  u'r help is highly appreciated
 
  Shirish Khapre, SE Rolta India Ltd.
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  Ext'n 2730
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RE: OT: Working from home

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Re: SYS vs SYSTEM

2001-06-15 Thread William Beilstein

What account I use depends on what I am doing. For example to set up roles, grant 
rights, and create users I use the SYSTEM account. For anything else, I use my DBA 
account. The reason is that if I ever leave and my account is removed, all those 
rights that I granted and all the roles that I created would go away. The SYSTEM 
account will never be removed. We learned this the hard way because we had a DBA leave 
and we removed his user id.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/15/01 05:55AM 
Hi all,
 
I generally use SYSTEM rather than SYS for DBA work, and would like to
discourage the use of SYS as much as possible. Partly because it
bypasses auditing and the profile, and also because I tend to regard SYS
as being for Oracle-specific things (like running scripts from
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin) and SYSTEM for doing the day-to-day tasks
(like administering storage, performance monitoring etc).
 
Does this reasoning make sense? And, what would be a good way to explain
it to developers who've gotten used to writing app installation scripts
than run as SYS (for example, they might refer to AQ$_AGENT rather than
SYS.AQ$_AGENT)?
 
Thanks,
 
g.
 
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RE: SYS vs SYSTEM

2001-06-15 Thread William Beilstein

That might be true in Oracle 8, but was a problem in Oracle 7. Just being paranoid.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/15/01 11:11AM 
Bill,

Roles created by a user never go away.  They are not attached to the user.
They belong to the system (I just tried this in 816 - created a user,
granted CREATE_ROLE to that user, connected as that user, created a role and
dropped the user - the role still exists).

Likewise grants to database objects.  Once they are established, they exist
on their own.  Dropping the user who granted the access has nothing to do
with the grant itself (unless it is to objects that existed in the dropped
users account, because these objects go away).

I never user the SYS or SYSTEM accounts to create accounts, roles or perform
grants.  I use SYS (or internal) for db startup and shutdown and Rman
backups only.

I create a DBA account (which owns the schema for the database) to do all of
the create account, roles and object grants.  I actually don't even know the
System account password - if I really need to get into it, I alter the
password to a new string and connect to it.

I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong.  Every DBA has their own
way of doing things, and your way is perfectly fine (not that you are asking
for approval! :)  ).  At least you are not using the SYS or SYSTEM account
for schema objects.  I saw this happen once!

Hope this helps!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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What account I use depends on what I am doing. For example to set up roles,
grant rights, and create users I use the SYSTEM account. For anything else,
I use my DBA account. The reason is that if I ever leave and my account is
removed, all those rights that I granted and all the roles that I created
would go away. The SYSTEM account will never be removed. We learned this the
hard way because we had a DBA leave and we removed his user id.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/15/01 05:55AM 
Hi all,
 
I generally use SYSTEM rather than SYS for DBA work, and would like to
discourage the use of SYS as much as possible. Partly because it
bypasses auditing and the profile, and also because I tend to regard SYS
as being for Oracle-specific things (like running scripts from
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin) and SYSTEM for doing the day-to-day tasks
(like administering storage, performance monitoring etc).
 
Does this reasoning make sense? And, what would be a good way to explain
it to developers who've gotten used to writing app installation scripts
than run as SYS (for example, they might refer to AQ$_AGENT rather than
SYS.AQ$_AGENT)?
 
Thanks,
 
g.
 
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Re: How to re-arrange the nullable columns

2001-06-12 Thread William Beilstein

It makes no difference in performance where the not null columns are placed. Why do 
you want to go to the headache of modifying the table structure for something so 
trivial?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/12/01 08:45AM 
Hi DBA's,

Greetings...

In some of application tables, i found not null columns are appeared at the
last. 

So, how can i re-arrange  by the way i can make the not null columns are in
the earliest of the table.

Is the only way to re-create the tables accordingly, or any other best
methods are there?.

Thanks.

Regards,
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RE: Enforced Costraints ??

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Re: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread William Beilstein

That really turned my stomach 8-)

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Re: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread William Beilstein

I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.

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I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.


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Re: Script and control file

2001-05-29 Thread William Beilstein

see the host command in pl/sql

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First of all, I'm a beginner to SQL/SQL Loader.
Currently,I'm working with Oracle 8.
I would like to know if it's possible invoke SQL Loader inside a script.

Example:
- inside the script I want to create a new table TABLE1
- copy some data inside TABLE1 using SQL loader
- work on TABLE1 using SQL language.

Is it possible do this inside a .sql file ?

Thanks,
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Re: Script and control file

2001-05-29 Thread William Beilstein

As Jared pointed out (shame on me), there is no host command in PL/SQL, the only place 
where the host command is supported in in sqlplus and forms.

 Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/29/01 02:10PM 
On Tuesday 29 May 2001 09:07, William Beilstein wrote:
 see the host command in pl/sql

Bill, I know you know this: there is no host command in pl/sql.

Assuming you meant sqlplus.  :)

Jared


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 First of all, I'm a beginner to SQL/SQL Loader.
 Currently,I'm working with Oracle 8.
 I would like to know if it's possible invoke SQL Loader inside a script.

 Example:
 - inside the script I want to create a new table TABLE1
 - copy some data inside TABLE1 using SQL loader
 - work on TABLE1 using SQL language.

 Is it possible do this inside a .sql file ?

 Thanks,
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Re: How to number the retrieved rows

2001-05-29 Thread William Beilstein

select rownum,column1, column2 from tablename

Rownum is the counter of the returned rows. The first row will return 1, the second 2, 
etc...

Rownum is only valid for the select and there is no guaranteed that the same rownum 
will be attached to the same row in the future.


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Hi!

Is there a way to show a number in front of every row retrieved through a
select statement...?

select column1, column2 from tablename

The output should look like:

1column1_value   column2_value

Any idea how I can achieve that?

This is 8.1.6 on Win2k.

Thanks,
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Re: Nothing to do with Oracle : But is is very important :

2001-05-22 Thread William Beilstein

My main problem is that his message is of a form that a virus would use. Impersonal 
and set up to try to get the user to click the link. As soon as I saw it, I 
immediately deleted it. I would never follow the directions from an email like that.

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I suppose this is an invalid address but keep this crap off of the
Oracle-L list.  You will likely find little sympathy using this spam
approach.

Both sides in this conflict have a significant amount of blame to
accept.  Violence breeds violence.  Throwing rocks, blowing up innocent
civilians, shooting babies will solve nothing but neither side seems to
understand this.

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Re: Table last updated data

2001-05-10 Thread William Beilstein

Trigger, Oracle doesn't maintain last update date  for a table. I would put a last 
modify column in the table with a trigger to maintain it. then you could see when each 
row was inserted or modified and could tell when the table was last modified by using 
the following selectSELECT MAX(LAST_MODIFY) FROM MY_TABLE;

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/01 11:21AM 
Does Oracle capture a last updated date whenever a table update occurs? Or
do I need to create a trigger to handle this?


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Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread William Beilstein
 backups that everyone misses and actually
 Oracle
 recommends against.
 That is backing up your online redo log files
 and doing
 that LAST.  The
 reason is that there are more than likely
 active
 transactions that were
 recorded therein and those logs are not
 available.  Can
 he complete the
 recovery, maybe if he has the remaining logs
 from the
 active system, I'm
 assuming he is recovering to somewhere other
 than his
 production system.
 Otherwise his only recourse is OTS.

 Dick Goulet
 Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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 Fellow list members, I received the following
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 reader a few minutes ago. If you skip down to
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 talks
 about backup, you'll see that he's in trouble
 with a
 database that won't recover. I've already
 suggested that
 he
 open a TAR, and that he supply more specifics
 as to
 error
 messages and the like, but maybe someone on
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 can
 draw some conclusions from what he's told me
 so far. If
 you're good at recovery, have a look at what
 he says.
 I'll
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RE: list table in schema

2001-05-07 Thread William Beilstein

If you have dba priviledges, you can issue the select

select table_name
from dba_tables
where owner = 'SCHEMA_NAME'
order by table_name;

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/07/01 01:35AM 
This won't work.

TAB is a synonym for USER_TABLES. Although this is present in
current DB releases, it's there for backward compatibility
purpose and its use is not recommended.
The other two solutions were perfectly alright.

HTH,
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I think even this one should work:

   select * from Schema_onwer.tab ;

Correct me if I am wrong. I did not test it though.

Raj.


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Subject:RE: list table in schema

Logon as schema owner :

Execute :
Select table_name from user_tables ;



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hello

how can i list all table in a schema ?


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Re: multiple schema in a database ???

2001-05-07 Thread William Beilstein

Having multiple schemas is a very normal part of an Oracle Database. For example, our 
current database has 70 different schemas

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/07/01 03:00AM 
Andrea Oracle schrieb:
 
 Hi all,
 
 We'll have a meeting about the following issue:
 
 Due to large amount of transactions each trainee has,
 the existing training database in Sybase used multiple
 databases to handle each trainee's transactions.   To
 implement this in Oracle, we may need to create
 multiple schemas in one Oracle database, instead of
 creating multiple Oracle databases.  Let's investigate
 the impact of having multiple schema in a database.
 
 Looks like Public synonym needs to be get rid off. Any
 other idea about the impact of having multiple schema?
 
 And is there an easy way to create a schema which is
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Hi,

I think that you're database won't work that well anymore if you try to
get rid of PUBLIC. 
Why would you want to do that in the first place ?

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Re: multiple schema in a database ???

2001-05-07 Thread William Beilstein

Oh by the way, an easy way to set up the same structure for each user is to build all 
the tables in a setup schema, then do the following.

1) Export everything in the setup schema using the following command
exp userid=setup/pass file=setup.exp 
2) Create the new schema (user), making sure to set the temporary tablespace and 
default tablespace to the correct tablespaces.  Make sure that the user is granted the 
CONNECT role.
3) set the quota on the default tablespace to a unlimited or a reasonable max. In a 
class environment, I would suggest a set size. Set the quota on all other tablepsaces 
to none.
4)  connected as the dba, import the export from the setup schema into the new schema 
using the following command.
imp userid=dbauser/pass file=setup.exp ignore=y fromuser=setup touser= newuser

When you are done, you have an exact copy of the tables, indexes, sequences... that 
were in the setup schema.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/07/01 09:26AM 
Having multiple schemas is a very normal part of an Oracle Database. For example, our 
current database has 70 different schemas

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 Hi all,
 
 We'll have a meeting about the following issue:
 
 Due to large amount of transactions each trainee has,
 the existing training database in Sybase used multiple
 databases to handle each trainee's transactions.   To
 implement this in Oracle, we may need to create
 multiple schemas in one Oracle database, instead of
 creating multiple Oracle databases.  Let's investigate
 the impact of having multiple schema in a database.
 
 Looks like Public synonym needs to be get rid off. Any
 other idea about the impact of having multiple schema?
 
 And is there an easy way to create a schema which is
 identical to another one?
 
 Thank you.
 
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I think that you're database won't work that well anymore if you try to
get rid of PUBLIC. 
Why would you want to do that in the first place ?

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That was totally uncalled for. It is obvious that they were sending a help command to 
ListGuru and sent to the list instead. Lighten up.

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Re: How can I cut off a query after 3 lines?

2001-05-04 Thread William Beilstein

SELECT machine_name, login, Count(login) AS CountOfLogin 
FROM login_history
WHERE ROWNUM  4
group by machine_name, login
order by count(login) desc;


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/01 01:25PM 
Q: how can you specify with a select statement how many rows are given as a
result? I would only like to get the first three lines.

here is what I have


1  SELECT machine_name, login, Count(login) AS CountOfLogin FROM
login_history
  2  group by machine_name, login
  3* order by count(login) desc
  4  ;

MACHINE_NAME LOGIN  COUNTOFLOGIN
 -- 
mochaJeff  3
reeses   Paul  3
spiceTamara3
mochaRudy  2
reeses   Jeff  1
reeses   Ravie 1
reeses   Tonya 1
spiceRudy  1

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Re: Input truncated to 1 characters

2001-05-03 Thread William Beilstein

I get the exact same message every time and the procedures always work and there are 
no invalid objects in dba_objects. I think you can safely ignore the message. I have 
no idea why it comes out, hopefully someone else can spread some light on that.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/03/01 11:56AM 
I noticed when I install procedures, i get this message:

Input truncated to 1 characters

can someone help explain this to me?
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RE: URGENT..not importing previous export!!!!!!!!

2001-05-02 Thread William Beilstein

Remember use ignore=yes to ignore create errors on existing tables, users. If you 
don't, the import will probably fail.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/02/01 02:06PM 
 import the exported files after making the same structue(tablespace and
users) as there were in previous install.
 
You don't have to create the users. The import will create it for you. Also
in your case you don't have to create the database as the same path already
exists as old database. 
 
It may be not importing because you have already created the users and when
import file tries to create the user it fails and skips it.
 
Try this
-- create fresh 8.1.5 database
-- run catexp.sql
and import complete database.
 
Brijesh

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hi all,
there is an urgent problem that cropped up while i had some problems with
oracle 8(version 8.0.4) database and after taking all the necessary backups,
full database exports, physical copy of database and net8 folder..
deinstalled it.
i then installed oracle 8i (version 8.1.5) and tried to import the exported
files after making the same structue(tablespace and users) as there were in
previous install.
but there is not even a single table import taking place. 
will u pls help me in where i'm doing wrong.
and how i could restore the earlier export files in this new database.
here's some info that may help..
 
earlier version 8.0.4, sid orcl
new version 8.1.5  , sid apex
no/name of tablespace and users are exactly matching.


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Re: SQL question

2001-05-01 Thread William Beilstein

my_string := substr(in_string,instr(in_string,'/',-1)+1);


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/01/01 04:36PM 
How would you take the same string /dir1/dir2/test/file.out, and return
file.out.  Assume you do not know where the last '/' is or how many there
are.  What I need is a reverse instr function.  Find the last occurrance of
'/', not the first.

Can it be done in sqlplus???

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Re: Change email address

2001-04-30 Thread William Beilstein

You need to UNSUB the list under your old email and SUBSCRIBE to the list under the 
new. The instructions for doing this are at the end of EVERY email you get from the 
list.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/29/01 11:30PM 
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How do I change the email address in this list so it will send the list
messages to my new email address?  Searching through HELP of ListGuru but
find nothing.

TIA


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RE: Change email address

2001-04-30 Thread William Beilstein

Then the old listing is the problem of your previous company.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/01 11:20AM 
what if you do not have access to your old email account anymore?

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you get from the list.

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RE: Help - temp tablespace growing constantly

2001-04-30 Thread William Beilstein

If you have the autoextend off, you might run out of space in your temp tablespace. If 
you have autoextend on, your temp file will keep growing. If you have a reasonably 
sized tablespace, you might want to look at the queries or index creations. How big is 
your entire database and how large is your temp tablespace. For example, we have a 
database of 35.3 gig and a temp tablespace of 1.5 gig and almost never run out of 
space. And when we do, it is almost always a bad select that is returning too much 
data.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/01 01:10PM 
No but, when I turned it off it kept running out of space.

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Does the temp tablespace has it's autoextend turned off?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/27/01 04:55PM 
Under this situation try to offline temp tablespace and online it 
immediately.

Regards
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I've got a 8.05(2.6 patch on NT) db that the temp tablespace is constantly
growing. It's initially set to 1G , then grows up to around 25G before I
drop and recreate it. Called oracle support and they gave me a patch that
hasn't helped.
Anybody have some hints as to what to look for?
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RE: Windows vs. UNIX

2001-04-30 Thread William Beilstein

Another reason might be that I have Oracle on a Sun Solaris server and in the last 
four years, the only time it has gone down is for hardware upgrades and power outages 
(manually after the building UPS ran down).  I don't want to get in a screaming war 
with all the Bill Gate lovers out there, but UNIX servers are just more stable. On the 
down side, they do need a more knowledgeable administrator who is comfortable with 
editing configuration files and using command line tools. I personally like using the 
command line. You tend to be able to have finer control and much faster command 
selection. I still shell out to dos on my windows workstation when I want to do mass 
copies (xcopy), formatiing etc

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/01 05:21PM 
Roy,

Forgive me my lack of understanding, but if you don't
know why one would choose Unix over Windows, why are
you proposing Unix altogether?

Yosi

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 this is not to bring up a heated debate over the two platforms...
 
 I am making a proposal to move the current access 97 
 databases to an oralce 
 platform running solaris  I would like to put in the 
 proposal a brief reason 
 why a UNIX platform will be better than a Windows platform.
 
 the current environment: 
 
 MS Access 97 databases running on Compaq server.  Databases 
 are about 20GB in 
 size...
 
 proposed solution:
 
 Sun E3500
 T3 Storage Array
 Solaris 8
 Oracle 8i
 
 Just need a couple FACTS as to why one would choose UNIX over 
 Windows
 
 Thanks in advance
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Re: Insert from a table to another

2001-04-27 Thread William Beilstein

CREATE MY_TABLE(TEST1 NUMBER,TEST2 VARCHAR2(10));

DELETE FROM MY_TABLE;

INSERT INTO MY_TABLE SELECT VALUE1,STRING2 FROM MY_OTHER_TABLE WHERE VALUE3 = 7;

This insert would insert into MY_TABLE the columns value1 and string2 from the table  
my_other_table where the column value3 is equal to 7
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/27/01 11:26AM 
Any one whom can give me a good  advice, on a pl/sql procedure, that delete data from 
table a, then runs a query from table b and and that insert this query into table a.
Pleas help me with a good example.
Thanks

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Re: Help - temp tablespace growing constantly

2001-04-27 Thread William Beilstein

Does the temp tablespace has it's autoextend turned off?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/27/01 04:55PM 
Under this situation try to offline temp tablespace and online it 
immediately.

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I've got a 8.05(2.6 patch on NT) db that the temp tablespace is constantly
growing. It's initially set to 1G , then grows up to around 25G before I
drop and recreate it. Called oracle support and they gave me a patch that
hasn't helped.
Anybody have some hints as to what to look for?
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RE: spool command: echo not work

2001-04-25 Thread William Beilstein

You can't test the spool that way. Make a file of commands containing the following

set echo off
set hea off
spool test.sql
select sysdate from dual;
spool off
exit

Now go into sqlplus and connect then execute the script by issuing the following 
command. This assumes that the above commands were placed into the file test.sql

@test.sql;

Your problem is that when the spool command is issued, everything including what you 
type in will be placed into the file.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/25/01 11:15AM 
Thanks all for replay.
I knew echo should work, but for some reason it does not.

SQL set echo off
SQL set hea off
SQL spool test.sql
SQL select sysdate from dual;

25-APR-01

SQL spool off
SQL !more test.sql
SQL select sysdate from dual;

25-APR-01

SQL spool off

Any ideas?
Thanks.
Greg.


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Re: spool command

2001-04-24 Thread William Beilstein

The following command will turn off echoing

set hea off pages 0 lines 79 verify off echo off

You would issue this just before the spool command

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 04:12PM 
Hi All!
It's is possible to spool just output of command , not command itself.

SQL select sysdate from dual;

24-APR-01

SQL save sys.sql
Created file sys.sql
SQL spool test.sql
SQL @sys.sql
SQL spool off
SQL ed test.sql

SQL @sys.sql

24-APR-01


SQL spool off

I would like to have in my test.sql file just:
24-APR-01.

Thanks.
Greg.

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Re: PL/SQL-if-statement

2001-04-19 Thread William Beilstein

v_OWNER_NO:= lpad(to_char(nvl(recCursor.OWNER_NO,0)),6,'0');

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/19/01 10:56AM 
How can I change  this pl/sql code, in the while-statement  maybe  so that if the 
field OWNER_NO is NULL, then it  should  be written six characters?
The code looks like
this:

"IF  recCursor.OWNER_NO is null then
vOWNER_NO := '00';
else
v_OWNER_NO:= to_char(recCursor.OWNER_NO);
WHILE length(vOWNER_NO)   6 LOOP
vOWNER_NO '0'0' || vOWNER_NO;
END LOOP;
END IF;

How shoud I write to fix this script so therw will be written out 6 characters if the 
field OWNER_NO is empty. I want to use the WHILE LOOP. Any one whom can help me with 
this?


Roland Skldblom



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Re: Oracle's ftp site

2001-04-17 Thread William Beilstein

ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/01 11:00AM 
Anybody know where oracle has moved (hidden) their ftp address now?

What doesn't work:
ftp://external-ftp.us.oracle.com 
ftp://209.246.5.40 
ftp://205.227.44.220 
ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com 


In case it helps, the error I get says "An error occurred reading the
contents of the folder.  Make sure the file name is valid and you have
permission to access the location specified.
Details: The connection with the server was reset."


Thanks for any help,
Margaret Murray
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RE: inserting into DATE colum

2001-04-09 Thread William Beilstein

A database table date column always stores the date and time.  For example is the 
current date and time was 09-apr-2001 at 14:23.32 .

INSERT INTO MY_TABLE(MY_DATE) VALUES(SYSDATE);

This would store the entire date and time.

INSERT INTO MY_TABLE(MY_DATE) VALUES(TRUNC(SYSDATE));

This would store the date with a time of 00:00.00;

If you want to insert a date that is formatted in a varchar2 field into a date field 
you would do the following.
insert into TbTABLE values (To_Date('03/09/2001','MM-DD-'), 
  To_Date('03/09/2001','MM/DD/'),
To_Date('03/09/2001 11:11:11','MM/DD/ HH:MI:SS))

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/09/01 02:26PM 
Helmut,

If you want to insert the date in any format other than 'DD-MON-' or
'DD-MON-YY', you need to specify the date format when you use the to_date
function.

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Hi!

I have a question concerning inserting data in a DATE column. The deal is
that sometimes, I just wanna insert DD/MM/ and in other cases I wanna
insert DD/MM/ HH:MI:SS in the same column.

How can I handle that?

insert into TbTABLE values (To_Date('03/09/2001'), To_Date('03/09/2001'),
To_Date('03/09/2001'), To_Date('03/09/2001'),
To_Date('03/09/2001 11:11:11'))


Do I need to supply formatting information for the date to the insert
statement?

This is 8.1.6 on Win2k.

Thanks,
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RE: Example of pl/sql

2001-04-09 Thread William Beilstein

If you don't want to do a truncate,

delete from my_table;
insert into my_table values(1,2,3);
commit;

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/09/01 04:24PM 
Actually, TRUNCATE is DDL so you can't just issue it in PL/SQL.  You'd need
to use dbms_sql to issue the truncate.

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If you are asking about a code,

Probably
Begin
   TRUNCATE ...
   INSERT INTO 
   COMMIT
END
In practical this is used for temporary tables I don't know if there is any
other use.

HTH!

Aleem

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Anyone who  has a good  example on a procedure that first deletes all the
records in a table and then
does an insert?

Roland S

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Re: A problem to ponder

2001-04-03 Thread William Beilstein

Have you tried rebuilding your indexes to balance them. If you are running cost based, 
have you rebuilt your statistics recently? Is this report using a table that is being 
used as a work table by other processes?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 05:07PM 
V7.3.4.5 on V2.6 Solaris, if it matters.

We generate a bunch 200+ reports (plz don't ask if they are all necessary)
nightly via a series of tasks linked togther via shell scripts.

In February  many, many months before that this one report was
averaging 20 minutes plus/minus 4 minutes to complete; night in
and night out. Around  5 March this single report would either
"never" finish, take 1 - 3 HOURS to complete or complete in 
about 20 minutes; WITHOUT any apparent reason for the change in
elapsed run times.

As far as we can tell "nothing has changed"!
We've been unable to discern what is different between the nights
where it completes in 20 minutes and nights where it does not. On
those nights where it "never completes" if the session is KILLED
and then re-run manually is ALWAYS completes in about 20 minutes.

At this point in time this report is an annoyance and a mystery.
We can live with the strange behavior, but would like to better
understand why the elapsed times are so erratic. Running bstat/
estat while the report was on the system did not reveal any 
meaninful results.

I'm asking for ideas and suggestions as I'm at a loss.

TIA  HAND!
Charlie M.

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RE: Help - How to declare a cursor inside a FOR ... LOOP ?

2001-04-03 Thread William Beilstein

It's actually easy. Following is an example

declare
cursor first is select work_id from my_table;

cursor second is select my_desc from my_desc_table where work_id = hold_work_id;

hold_work_id number(15);

begin
for rec in first loop
  hold_work_id := rec.work_id;
  for pnt in second loop
  code to display desc line by referencinf pnt.my_desc 
  end loop;
end loop;
end;




 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 04:50PM 
You're probably right, I think I got stuck on the whole DECLARE BEGIN
EXCEPTION END thing.

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i speak from ignorance, isn't there implicit and explicit cursor
declarations and usage?  can't you encapsulate that section you have
identified in a loop and it will implicitly opens a cursor?  then all you
have to do is manipulate as needed to generate desired results...
 

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You can't.  It appears that you want to select all the detailed text extries
related to a specific problem.  You could define a cursor that selects all
the detailed entries, or you could read all the detailed entries into a
pl/sql table and then search through them.  If you use the cursor, then you
have to reopen the cursor for each new problem.
 
Dan

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Hey, Guys:

I need to decalre a cursor inside a FOR .. LOOP, because the variables in
SELECT statement for the CURSOR are coming from FOR .. LOOP. How could I do
this?

DECLARE
  V_AKTIV_NRaktiv.AKTIV_NR%TYPE;
  V_PROBLEMaktiv.PROBLEM%TYPE;
  V_ENDDAT   aktiv.ENDDAT%TYPE;
  V_ENDUHR   aktiv.ENDUHR%TYPE;
  V_AUSSAGEW   aktiv.AUSSAGEW%TYPE;
  V_LANGTEXT   aktiv.LANGTEXT%TYPE;
  V_LONGTEXTVARCHAR2(2);
  V_LONGTEXT_CUR  VARCHAR2(13000);
  V_LONGTEXT_TRIM VARCHAR2(2000);
  p_PROBLEMPROBLEM.PROBLEM%TYPE;  

# This part need to be inside FOR.. LOOP, otherwise, I wouldn't
get anything.

CURSOR AKLangTextCur IS 
 SELECT  TO_CHAR(V_ENDDAT, 'MMDD')||' '||
   V_ENDUHR||' '||
  rtrim(V_AUSSAGEW)||' '||
  rtrim(V_LANGTEXT)   thisText
FROM AKTIV
WHERE V_PROBLEM = p_PROBLEM
ORDER BY Aktiv_NR; 
AKLangTextRec   AKLangTextCur%ROWTYPE; 

### Above
BEGIN
  FOR v_LoopIndex IN 1..pkgFreeText.v_NumEntries LOOP
V_AKTIV_NR := pkgFreeText.V_AKTIV_NR_P(v_LoopIndex);
V_PROBLEM  := pkgFreeText.V_PROBLEM_P(v_LoopIndex);
V_ENDDAT   := pkgFreeText.V_ENDDAT_P(v_LoopIndex);
V_ENDUHR   := pkgFreeText.V_ENDUHR_P(v_LoopIndex);
V_AUSSAGEW := pkgFreeText.V_AUSSAGEW_P(v_LoopIndex);
V_LANGTEXT := pkgFreeText.V_LANGTEXT_P(v_LoopIndex);

  SELECT PROBLEM INTO p_PROBLEM FROM PROBLEM;

## CURSOR DECLARE should be HERE ##

BEGIN
 OPEN AKLangTextCur;
  LOOP
FETCH AKLangTextCur into AKLangTextRec;
 EXIT WHEN AKLangTextCur%NOTFOUND;
V_LONGTEXT_CUR := V_LONGTEXT_CUR ||AKLangTextRec.thisText;

 END LOOP;
 CLOSE AKLangTextCur;
END;  
  V_LONGTEXT := V_LONGTEXT || V_LONGTEXT_CUR;   

  END LOOP;
   V_LONGTEXT_TRIM := RTRIM(V_LONGTEXT, 2000);

Thanks a lot for help

Wendy




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RE: OT -- Friday Recipe was: Oracle Books on Audio Tapes

2001-03-29 Thread William Beilstein

(with apologies to the Cookie Monster) Cki!! 

I love shortbread, go for it

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/01 01:12PM 
Can you send it through as a .wav file?

: )

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  dunno any votes for my shortbread cookie recipe?
 
 i move we have the godess' shortbread recipe!  seconds?;-)  and why do i
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RE: Oracle Books on Audio Tapes

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Re: Excel to oracle

2001-03-29 Thread William Beilstein

Use the save as option in Excel and save as a comma or tab delimited text file. In 
other words a CSV or TXT file. The CSV is comma delimited, the TXT is tab delimited. 
SQLLOADER can use either (with the correct control file)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/01 01:46PM 
I have a Excel file.How to port the data to Oracle table.

I read some artical about using ODBC and things like that.But
I am not clear.

How can we generate a dat file delimited with comas so that I can
use SQlLOADer to port the data.

Thanks
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RE: Excel to oracle

2001-03-29 Thread William Beilstein

make a tab delimited file and use chr(9) as the delimiter in the control file.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/01 04:15PM 
Thanks for all the replies.

I am able to load data to the table.the table is having a number column and
a varchar column.
In the varchar column *some* records are being inserted with double quotes
at the beginning and
end of the data feild and all witha comma as the end.I don't want these
double quote and
comma.How do avoid these from going into the table.

Thanks
Ravindra

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Use the save as option in Excel and save as a comma or tab delimited text
file. In other words a CSV or TXT file. The CSV is comma delimited, the TXT
is tab delimited. SQLLOADER can use either (with the correct control file)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/01 01:46PM 
I have a Excel file.How to port the data to Oracle table.

I read some artical about using ODBC and things like that.But
I am not clear.

How can we generate a dat file delimited with comas so that I can
use SQlLOADer to port the data.

Thanks
Ravindra


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Real Workstation Requirements

2001-03-28 Thread William Beilstein

My firm is currently using Oracle Applications 10.7SC and are in the planning stage 
for 11i. I have been tasked with finding the Workstation requirements for 11i. The 
Workstations will be running Windows 2000 with Microsoft Office, email client and a 
number of smaller financial applications. I know that jinitator takes a lot of memory 
and processor speed to run. Oracle always specifies the absolute minimum requirements 
for the workstation. I am looking for some real world recommendations for hard drive 
sizing, memory, processor speed, processor type (Celeron, Pentium...). We don't want 
the absolute minimum, but allow some room for future growth. Any help would be very 
much appreciated.

William Beilstein.

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RE: Real Workstation Requirements

2001-03-28 Thread William Beilstein

Thanks

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/28/01 12:05PM 
I would say no Celeron processor for sure, I would go with PIII's 500 or
above, minimum 128 RAM 256 would be better, at least a 10 gig hd.  We use
Dell Optiplex workstations, most of them are 500's and we don't run into any
problems, most of them have 10 to 20 gig hd's and 256 mb's of RAM.
Kev

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My firm is currently using Oracle Applications 10.7SC and are in the
planning stage for 11i. I have been tasked with finding the Workstation
requirements for 11i. The Workstations will be running Windows 2000 with
Microsoft Office, email client and a number of smaller financial
applications. I know that jinitator takes a lot of memory and processor
speed to run. Oracle always specifies the absolute minimum requirements for
the workstation. I am looking for some real world recommendations for hard
drive sizing, memory, processor speed, processor type (Celeron, Pentium...).
We don't want the absolute minimum, but allow some room for future growth.
Any help would be very much appreciated.

William Beilstein.

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Re: Update existing rows at import

2001-03-28 Thread William Beilstein

You can't query or modify the same table as the trigger is firing on (The old mutating 
table problem). What you could do is set up a temp table with a before insert trigger 
which would query the other table and take the appropriate actions, this would solve 
you having to run a separate procedure after the temp table was loaded. Or load the 
temp table and run a procedure. When your done with your insert, truncate the temp 
table and your ready for your next load.

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Can you have a before-insert trigger on your table to do whatever you want
and then use conventional sqlldr to load it?
winnie





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Hi!

Is there a tool available that allows me to read data from a
comma-delimited
flat file into Oracle and if a row already exists, updates that record. If
the row does not exist, it should insert a new record into the table.

Looks to me like SQL*Loader can't do this.

How could this be done?

This is 8.1.6 on Win2k.


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Re: Request Tracker Call for Assistance

2001-03-27 Thread William Beilstein

DISTINCT and UNIQUE in a select are synonyms for each other. They produce the same 
result in Oracle.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 09:31AM 
Hi All,
I have been involved with a perl/DBI trouble
ticketing system called Request Tracker. I have done a small 
piece of the work required to port the system to Oracle. 
The creators are almost finished but with my new
job I cannot devote the time necessary now that 
they are pushing to a beta release.

Jesse needs Oracle testers and both Oracle and perl
assistance.  

The current problem is the use of "DISTINCT" in a 
select clause from a table that has BLOB/CLOB etc
columns. 

This is an industrial strength web and email ticketing
system ala Remedy, but it is under an open source license.

http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/ 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
TIA
Dave

Tobias Brox wrote:
 
  Anyone have a helpful
  suggestion for how to make oracle happy with this:
 
  SELECT DISTINCT * from Tablename;
 
  Thanks,
  Jesse
 
 I've never tried Oracle, but I'd suggest trying this:
 
 SELECT UNIQUE(*) from Tablename;
 
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RE: Exp Imp Overwirte posiible or not?

2001-03-27 Thread William Beilstein

The DESTROY option on an import indicates whether the CREATE TABLESPACE commands only 
found in a full export should be executed. Setting DESTROY=Y destroys the data files 
of the database being imported into. This is only used when you want to rebuild an 
entire database, not to overwrite data in tables. If you really need the empty all the 
tables in a schema, disable the constraints on the tables, truncate them, and reenable 
the constraints. This will only work if the schema is self contained, and it's tables 
are not used as a foreign key for a table in a different schema.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 01:50PM 
IIRC, there is a flag for import "destroy=y" to do what you want.  This is
very dangerous and you should research all the implications before trying
it.  If you don't have the docs, try http://technet.oracle.com and read up
on the import options.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
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 Subject:  Exp Imp  Overwirte posiible or not?
 
 Hi All,
  I want to import data from a user dump file but when i import data, i
 want
 to overwrite the existing data . Normally imp utility append data to
 existing rows. Requirement of application is such  that we need to
 overwrite existing data  without  dropping objects and its dependent
 objects. Is it possible with exp , imp utilities or  i have to delete data
 first and then import  using imp utility.
 Is there any other possibility...
 Environment Oracle8i, Windows NT4
 TIA
 
 Azhar Siddiq
 
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OFFTOPIC - RE: Which is faster, Metalink or...

2001-03-27 Thread William Beilstein

Water flowing uphill (that never works either)

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Re: Moving user to a different tablespace ...

2001-03-23 Thread William Beilstein

Export the user, drop it's objects, alter to user to use the correct tablespace as 
it's default tablespace. Set quota on system to none, set quota on new tablespace to 
unlimited, import the objects. Done.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/23/01 02:07PM 
look at alter user command, yes break out the documentation and begin 
reading.

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By mistake a user was assigned default tablespace SYSTEM.
How we can change it to some new tablespace let's say "TBS1" ?
Because if we do export and import it will again import into that "SYSTEM"
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Re: 1/2 control file failure - will database halt?

2001-03-21 Thread William Beilstein

If you have a single corrupted database, replace the bad copy with the good one and 
restart the database. You should only have to modify the init.ora if the location of 
the corrupted or missing control file is not reachable. Each control file contains the 
exact same information. You have multiple control files to protect against losing all 
your control information.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/21/01 03:46PM 

I've been told a single control file failure will halt
the database, even if you've got another control file on
a second device; that the database will only come up again
after editing the init.ora to remove the reference to the
faulty control file and initiating a fresh startup.

Is this still true, if it ever was true for any version of Oracle, for
Oracle 8.X+? The person who warned me about the halt has been using
Oracle since version 5.


Thanks very much.

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Re: Why can't I find bug 909635 ?

2001-03-19 Thread William Beilstein
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 Hello All,

 J ust now i got a error   select  count(*) from s_org_ext.

 SQLWKS select count(*) from s_org_ext;  where S_org_ext is Name of the
 Table.
 COUNT(*)
 --
 ORA-01115:
 ORA-01110:  4: /db/oracle/oradata/tlisuser/data03.dbf
 ORA-27072: skgfdisp:
 SVR4 Error: 25: Inappropriate ioctl for device
 Additional information: 262132

 But When I do  select x,y,z,t,. from s_org_ext then No error occured.

 The size of that Table is 2.4GB. Its Initial extent is 1Gb and Next is
1mb.

 Vesion of Orcale 8.0.5 and OS is Sun solaris 5.6

 Developped got this error while executing a procedure. I think that
 procedurte will be insert into data into s_org_ext.

 PLease tell me what i will do. I think datafile will be damagaed. can not
 coiped on OS prompt when last time I took backup.

 Please help me.,

 Regards,
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Re: rdbms pricing

2001-03-16 Thread William Beilstein

Thats a no brainer. You get a single support contract for John Smith, which happens to 
be the name of everyone working there (wink).

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/01 10:41AM 
At 06:05 AM 3/16/01 -0800, you wrote:
We have a support contract with IBM (for server support), and the support
costs
could be deceptive if you don't know how IBM works.  The cost is on a per
user
basis.  So if you only got one support license, your company would only be
allowed
to have one NAMED person calling in.  If anyone else called in, they would
not
get any help.  And IBM is vey sticky about answering only the named
person(s).


Yeah, that came up. Interestingly, that quoted price is for 2 named contacts.


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RE: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion

2001-03-15 Thread William Beilstein

You should look into getting Palm's wireless pocket DBA, then you could hide in the 
woods and still get your work done   8-)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/01 02:50PM 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: jeudi, 15. mars 2001 06:43
 
 nice, very nice. and just in time, as I have decided to 
 "put a stake in 
 the ground" (to quote our CTO) and take back control of my 
 databases. My 
 programmers have been allowed to run riot due to a limited 
 number of hours 
 in the day for me to get things done. No more.
 
 Now, where did I leave that kevlar vest?


I know the feeling. I've been trying to "organize" our development databases
here and encourage some of our QA people / developpers to not install the
products in the system tablespace. Also I have mentioned a few times since
I've been here that if you want to delete a datafile from the disk, it's
best to drop the tablespace from the database first! Of course when the
database won't start up they turn to me.

This week I'm going through all our databases and changing the sys and
system passwords to something else, and creating developper accounts that
don't have DBA privilege. When I send out the e-mail outlining my little
plan I think I'll have to hire some button men and hit the mattresses.
For the next few days I'll be hiding in the bunker. It's probably best if I
perform my DBA duties whilst peering out through that little slit.

Jacques Kilchoer - master of the Mafia metaphore

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A question about upgrading Oracle Applications

2001-03-14 Thread William Beilstein

I am asking in this format because I want the opinion of the DBA who did the work.

We are currently using Oracle Applications 10.7SC (Smart Client) with the project 
module and are looking to go to Oracle Applications 11i. I am looking for any opinions 
on the ease or headaches of performing an upgrade as opposed to a fresh install. What 
was your opinion on the Oracle Migration tools. Is there anyone who jumped directly 
from 10.7SC to 11i? Any information would be appreciated.

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oracle and America and Microslop

2001-03-12 Thread William Beilstein

When I ran the original "Oracle and America" e-mail, Windows  tried to force a 
download of an additional  package from Microsoft to view it. I don't know what it 
wants (I wouldn't let it proceed). Microslop is so weak in security, I would NEVER 
allow a automatic download from anyone without knowing what it was. The other 
interesting thing is that I was not given an option to exit the download. I had to do 
the three finger salute and do an end task on the email viewer. I hate Microslop.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/01 12:35PM 
I think your friend, well, to put it nicely, was misinformed


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one of my friends returning from America told that ORACLE is not much used 
in America.
 Is it True??
   Bunyamin
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RE: number of Mb to add?

2001-03-12 Thread William Beilstein

Also, expanding the available space on a datafile to handle only the next extent is 
just not being a proactive DBA. Give it enought room to expand. Also don't forget that 
the datafile it self can be expanded in size (7.3 and above) up to the available space 
on the volume or the file size limit of the OS. Unless you have to, you don't have to 
make another datafile.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/01 12:20PM 
Joseph, 

Well, do you really want to deal with a datafile that small, whether that's
KB or bytes?  What about when it extends beyond that extent?  Usually
datafiles less than 100MB are not worth the hassle, and the size should be
much larger in a production database.  Of course, this is just my opinion...

HTH

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if I get this message,

IMP-00058: ORACLE error 1654 encountered
ORA-01654: unable to extend index TOTSAPPL.PK_DAILY_OPERATOR_ACTIVITIES by
15006 in tablespace USERS

the 15006, is it bytes or rows or what? I just want to know how many bytes
to enter
as the size of the new ADDFILE.

TIA
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Re: (Fwd) TAR# 1280667.996:Can NT/Win2k server OS defrag

2001-03-12 Thread William Beilstein
at started 
the discussion:
(thanks!!! ep)
-excerpt
|Using a little utility called contig I noticed that the Oracle
| 8.1.6 datafileson my test NT server are quite fragmented, an
| average of 177 fragments perfile, 118 fragments for the OEM
| repository datafile.  The poor utilitycouldn't do anything with
| the database files, they are too large perhaps. 
|
|These were created on an empty server, 8i release 2 went on it
| after a defrag,then the OEM.  This is on a hard disk with 1.2G of
| free space, none of thedatafiles come close to that. 
| 
| Why so many fragments?  Oracle created thosefiles in one pass,
| does NT write randomly to disk or what? 
|
| Won't thishave an impact on my NT database's performance? 
|
| Oracle says tablespacefragmentation is not a big deal, but
| fragmentation at the OS level matters.Supposedly that's why NT
| and WndowsXX came with defragmentation tools. 
|
|???
|
| Is there a registry setting somewhere to tell NT to write
| contiguouslyto disk? 
---end---



*** CHFREEMA.US 12-MAR-2001 15:40:53 GMT, 12-MAR-01 Local ***
The only way to defrag oracle files is to do an export/import. Any 3rd party
tool or OEM's defrag option will amount to the same thing. They will take an
export and then import the object back in and that will defrag the file.

Datafiles, if sized correctly, should never need to be defragged. If you are
concerned that there is fragmentation on your oracle file take an export.


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RE: Forgot password for internal , any ideeas what I can do?

2001-03-09 Thread William Beilstein

Internal is NOT a user, it is the SYS user opened in a special mode. To connect as 
internal you must have set the Oracle password file to the SYS password and be logged 
onto the server as the Oracle administrative user. On a Unix system this is normally 
the "oracle" user with belongs to the "dba" group.

 Eddy Confer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/01 04:10PM 
Pankaj
You say that you can change the internal password by connecting as SYS.
Connecting
from where as SYS?  SysMgr.  After I connect do I just issues the alter user
command to
change the internal password.

Thanks


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Hi Alex,

the default is "oracle" if you have not changed that...in case you do...you
can change that to whatever you want toby connecting through SYS
account..

eNjoy life Technically ;-)

Pankaj

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 Hi all,

 I just forgot the password for internal user, do you have any ideea how I
 can connect as 'SYSDBA'?
 Or how I can recover the password.

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RE: Re-claiming the space from Table after deleteion

2001-03-09 Thread William Beilstein

The problem with truncating is that you have to release ALL records and the users 
procedure is deleting records older then one month, but not the more current records. 
And while you could move the data into a temp table, truncate, and reinsert the new 
records into the original table, you can't do this and keep the table available to the 
users.

 SHAIBAL TALUKDER [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/01 11:25AM 

 Uttam,

I think you are mixing up here. These are two different issues. You are talking about 
extent allocation and the thread is opened for reclaiming space from a table.

As far as I know one can not reclaim space bellow the high water mark from a table. To 
reclaim the space you have to reduce the high water mark and you can do that by 
truncating.

Thanks

Shaibal


  "Majumdar, Uttam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Provided all extents of the desired table are in same size, the incoming
data should use the free space.
regards;
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Dear All,

Platform: Solaris 2.6, Oracle: 7.3.4.0

We have a few tables which are growing very fast due to large no of
insertions. But the data gets obselete after a month and we use a
procedure to delete the obselete data from the tables. 

The problem is that the table does not free the space even after the
deletion of 40% of the data. 

How can we re-claim the unused space which got created due to deletion?

How do we ensure that future inserts are done in this unused space?


[We can not try exp/imp or truncate option 
due to the huge size  high activity and 
online use of the tables].

Kind Regards and thanks to all there,


Rafi Ahmad



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Re: Re-claiming the space from Table after deleteion

2001-03-09 Thread William Beilstein

It has always bothered me that Oracle has the compress=Y option on exp, but not a 
maximum initial extent size. We have a table that is larger then 2 gig  and when you 
create an export, the table can't be imported without pre creating the table. If they 
had a max extent in exp, we could set it to maybe 1 gig and never have problems. The 
problem is that an extent must exist in only one data file and most Unix OS's have a 
max file size of 2 gig (though this is changing in new releases)

 SHAIBAL TALUKDER [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/01 11:31AM 

 Raghu,

If you go with compress = y you will end up with one big initial extent which is not 
desirable specifically if you are talking about real big tables.

just my $0.02

Shaibal

  Raghu Kota [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi Rafi

This is the problem many big databases facing!!If you clean up the database 
every year and reorganizing the database You would't have see this scenario. 
For the matter fact iam also facing same problem, My one table grown like 
22G, I simply can't do any thing?? Iam doing just for Indexes Rebuild for 
getting what ever space I can avail. As you said you deleted 40% of data!! 
You can reorganize your Indexes to avail some space.

Other wise Export to Tape and reimport it, But here again problem when you 
say compress=y, due to heavy data Its another big headche??

May be our friends give some ideas???

Thanks
Raghu.


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Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:56:07 -0800

Dear All,

 Platform: Solaris 2.6, Oracle: 7.3.4.0

We have a few tables which are growing very fast due to large no of
insertions. But the data gets obselete after a month and we use a
procedure to delete the obselete data from the tables.

 The problem is that the table does not free the space even after the 
deletion of 40% of the data.

How can we re-claim the unused space which got created due to deletion?

How do we ensure that future inserts are done in this unused space?


 [We can not try exp/imp or truncate option
 due to the huge size  high activity and
 online use of the tables].

Kind Regards and thanks to all there,


Rafi Ahmad



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RE: opinions on naming primary keys in new database

2001-03-08 Thread William Beilstein

We would use something like curt_id, not just id. That way you can query the 
dba_tab_columns or user_tab_columns to see everywhere a particular key is referenced.

 "Jeff Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/01 11:10AM 
Hugh,

You are right that Richard Barker says not to use an entity name as part of
an attribute name.  (CASE*METHOD Entity Relationship Moddelling, by Richard
Barker, page 3-9)  And I believe Oracle still gives out this book in their
Data Modeling class.

I have seen databases that completely follow this method and others that
include the table name in every column.  As far as naming your primary key
as a column called 'key', I don't like it either.

I am also curious to see what is the preference of other list members.


Regards,

Jeff Cox
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Hello,

I wanted to get the lists opinion on the preference of naming primary keys.

Please see my example below with the CUSTOMER table, and the customer TYPE
table.  The column 'type_id' is a foreign key referencing the TYPE table.
This is just an example to get opinions.


CUST   TYPE
+-+   +--+
| id  |   |id|
| name|   |desc  |
| type_id |--|  |
+-+   +--+


I like having my primary keys called id, and not including the table names
in the columns of the original table.  For example, in the CUST table, we
would not have 'cust_id' as the primary key, we would just call it 'id'.
But having 'type_id' as a column of the CUST table is okay because that is a
foreign key, and not an attribute of the original CUST entity.

Including the table name in a column that is not a foreign key, I believe,
is redundant and not necessary.  (I also remember reading this in a Richard
Barker book.)

All foreign keys would then have the standard of table_column, with the
exception of tables with multiple foreign keys from the same table, and
recursive relationships - which would then just include a more descriptive
table_column name.

This way, when you do a describe on a table, you will immediately be able to
tell what are the foreign keys, and the primary keys. (I also believe in
surrogate keys for most tables, so the problem of having a composite key is
not an issue here.)  I think that this will later make the database easier
to understand to new DBAs and duhvelopers, which would have been nice when I
worked on my first database.

My questions:

1) What is your preference with primary and foreign keys - if you could
design a database from scratch?

2) Am I off my rocker thinking that this is a good way to design a database?

3) We have a developer who wants to name all of our primary keys, 'key', and
I am trying to convince her that we should use 'id' or 'nbr' instead.  Has
anyone ever used 'key' as the primary key of a table?  This seems like it
would be confusing when

All constructive criticism is welcomed.

Thank you,

Hugh




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Re: Re[2]:Oracle Licensing

2001-03-02 Thread William Beilstein

I doubt it, Oracle will say that their profit margins are too low so they will up 
their licence costs for everyone else. Larry can you spell greed.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/02/01 12:35PM 
Dennis,

I'm sitting in the middle of the East Coast dot bomb area.  I know of three
dot bombs that paid a total of $100 million between them for Oracle licenses. 
Now that the dot com sugar daddy has been licked clean maybe reality will
strike!!

Dick Goulet

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Author: Dennis Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   3/2/2001 8:30 AM

At 06:25 AM 3/2/01 -0800, you wrote:
the mire.  At any rate, there are suppose to be two basic licensing
schemes, and
GOD only knows how many "allowed" permutations:

1) Power Units which equates to the number of processors times the
speed of
the processors in Megahertz.  Oh, BTW: it matters if their Intel or Risc
processors too.  Risc processors are more expensive.  In general this is the
MOST expensive way to go.


I went to the oracle site and did some calcs for adding users to Oracle
Enterprise. Kept sayin g to myself, "Naw, they must mean *hundreds* of
megahertz". Anyway, for a very behind-the-curve system (2x200mhz
ppro's), it works out to $4000 per additional user.

Or I can look at Interbase/Firebird, which is free.

Today I will be assigning one of my staff the task of downloading,
installing, and evaluating Firebird.

The only way I can imagine that Oracle thinking can be going is: "Hey,
revenues are dropping because of competition from free and less expensive
dbms's". "No problem. Raise prices to make up the shortfall". Then I say to
myself, "Naw, no-one can be that stupid". Then I check the per-user prices
again


Dennis Taylor

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Re: Revoke system privilege from user

2001-03-01 Thread William Beilstein

And the next logical question is... If the user can't be trusted around the tables, 
why was he given the dba role at all. Just give him the specific priveledges he needs.

 B N RAMAMOHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/01/01 02:35AM 
Hi Chuan,

You can not revoke Just drop any table from DBA Role,
since drop any tables is not granted explicitly.

What you can do is create a copy of DBA role and from
that role reovke drop any table table priv. Use this
new role to grant DBA without Drop any table priv.

Regards,
Mohan


On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Chuan Zhang wrote:

 Hi, All,
 
 I have granted DBA role to an user. But I don't want him  holding the
 "Drop Any Table" system privilege.
 
 I did as follows:
 
 1. Connect as sysdba.
 2. revoke drop any table from ABC-user;
 
 And I got the error:" ORA-01952: system privileges not granted to
 'ABC-user'".
 
 Could anyone help me out?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuan

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Re: EJB Oracle Sequence

2001-02-26 Thread William Beilstein

In sql code we would do the following

select my_table_s.nextval
into my_variable
from dual;

insert into my_table values(my_variable,.)

And then use my_variable for whatever you need it for.

 "Apps Sol" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/01 10:25AM 
 Hello ,

One of our developers have some issues regarding sequences in Oracle

Here is what he is looking for

"I'm trying to use CMP for beans that map to tables in which the primary key
is an integer that comes from an Oracle SEQUENCE. How do I get the container
to get the next number from the appropriate SEQUENCE on a create?"

Oracle 8.1.6 on Linux

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Re: More slower CPUs vs. fewer faster CPUs

2001-02-23 Thread William Beilstein

..and so is the speed of the processors

 "Gene Sais" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/23/01 09:01AM 
And don't forget Oracle Power Unit Licensing costs?  # cpus is a multiplier.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/23 8:20 AM 
I was wondering if it would be better to have three or four relatively
slower CPUs than having only two faster ones.

I think I remember that Ixora says fewer faster CPUs is better because the
CPUs are constantly negotiating who should do what.  The more CPUs exist the
more time-consuming the debate (this is very simplified, I realize).

Jonathan Lewis in Practical Oracle8i: Building Efficient Databases, Adison
Wesley, p. says the opposite.

Is this another one of those questions that has "it depends" as the only
answer?  Or that has very plausible theoretical answers that are mitigated
in real life?  I imagine that the I/O patterns play a part in the validity
of either answer.

Has anyone on this list tested to see which would be faster?

We are on Compaq Tru64 UNIX alphas, upgrading to ES-40s with up to four
CPUs.  My database is a mix (mess) of background tables for web apps, ad hoc
querying, sporadic intensive data loads and in the near future: replication.

Opinons?

TIA
Patrice Boivin
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Re: OFF-TOPIC: A little Friday levity for MS bashers.

2001-02-23 Thread William Beilstein

I really needed a good laugh. Everyone at my site was laughing their butts off.

 "Jesse, Rich" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/23/01 10:00AM 
RTFM, I guess.  ;D

http://support.microsoft.com=support=kb[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q20935 
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RE: MetaStink, Redux

2001-02-22 Thread William Beilstein

I called up oracle and they said that they are installing a new version of MetaLink 
and that is why it has been flaky lately.

 "Mohan, Ross" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/22/01 12:45PM 
Actually they are on SUN. 
 
You know, the "dot in dot com".   LOL!!
 
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They must be testing Windows 2000 as possible platform...
 
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Is it me, or is MetaBlink on the fritz again? 

I get truly odd refresh times and behavior.. 


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Re: Oracle and Win2k

2001-02-20 Thread William Beilstein

Developer 2K comes in both a win9x and a winnt version (on the same cd in 4.5). We 
have loaded the NT version onto a number of NT servers, workstations, and Win frame 
machines with no problems.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/01 01:55PM 
Hello All,
Being the netadmin here (not the DBA) I am put in the position of
trying to maintain all my various platforms.  The management staff has
agreed that everyone should be using the same software (great for me) and
Win2k should be on all systems (servers and workstations).  What kind of
headaches can I expect on the DBA's NT4 workstation with the OMS console(?)
and OEM configurations, as well as the NT4 Servers that are running 8.1.6?
Thanks for any input.


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RE: How to find DUPLICATE KEYS FOUND

2001-02-20 Thread William Beilstein

delete from pa_answer
where rowid in (select rowid
from p_answer pa
where rowid  (select min(pa2.rowid)
from p_answer pa2
where pa.p_id = pa2.p_id and pa.p_name = pa2.p_name))



 Larry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/01 03:15PM 
Thanks William it worked, but how to delete it?

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how about 

select rowid,p_id,p_name
from p_answer pa
where rowid  (select min(pa2.rowid)
from p_answer pa2
where pa.p_id = pa2.p_id and pa.p_name = pa2.p_name)

This will display the p_id,p_name and rowid of all the duplicate rows that
have the same p_id and p_name.

 Larry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/01 11:56AM 
Hi all,

How can I find duplicate keys and drop the duplicate? My database is 8.1.6
and I tried the following
and got this error:

CREATE UNIQUE INDEX I_SA_C_OWNERID_C_NAME ON P_ANSWER (P_ID , P_NAME ) 
PCTFREE 10 INITRANS 2 MAXTRANS 255 STORAGE(INITIAL 65536) LOGGING TABLESPACE
USERS;

ORA-01452: cannot CREATE UNIQUE INDEX; duplicate keys found

Thanks in advance.

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Re: shutdown Abort...Open normal??

2001-02-19 Thread William Beilstein

STARUP FORCE - Issue a shutdown abort and then try to immediately restart the 
database. 

STARTUP RESTRICT - Open the database and only allow access  to users with the 
RESTRICTED SESSION role.

STARTUP MOUNT - Mounts the database, but doesn't open it for use.

STARTUP NOMOUNT - Does not mount the database

STARTUP RECOVER - Similar to the recover database command. It starts the database and 
attempts a recovery.

STARTUP OPEN - Mounts and Opens the database

STARTUP - Default open, which is STARTUP OPEN.


 "Raghu Kota" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/16/01 04:10PM 
Hi Friends

Could you explain this..

SVRMGR connect sys as sysoper;
Password:
Connected.
SVRMGR shutdown abort
ORACLE instance shut down.
SVRMGR startup open;
ORACLE instance started.
Database mounted.
Database opened.
SVRMGR


I thought recovery is needed, But its opened?
Thanks
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Re: Public Synonym SYSTEM causing Problem with Export

2001-02-13 Thread William Beilstein

How about removing the public synonym and create a private one in the schemas that 
need it. Except for a table or procedure that is truly global, making a public synonym 
is never a good idea.

 "Nisha Patel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/01 09:55AM 
Hi All,
 I have a really wierd problem with a client who has tried to export the
whole database. They get errors because there is
a public synonym called System created by a user FCAADMIN. This public
synonym caused several oracle supplied objects to go invalid resulting
in the failed Oracle exports.   I know we should not have a table called
System but I had inherited the database and it is too late in the game
to rename it. Does anyone have any solution to this problem?


Thanks in advance,
Nisha

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Re: SQL parameter for batch runs [NT]

2001-02-08 Thread William Beilstein

I have shutdown and startup scripts run by the root process via cron or init.d 
(automatic scripts at startup or shutdown). These scripts shell to the Oracle account, 
but because they start as root the scripts do not need the Oracle password. If you are 
running as the Oracle account you connect internal, which needs no password entered, 
and do your shutdown and startup's

 "O'Neill, Sean" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/08/01 08:50AM 
Hi Folks,

I have some SQL scripts which I use to Shutdown and Startup DBs.  The SQL
scripts are called from OS batch files and run using AT schedule service.
Problem, or so I perceive it as being, is that I use SYSTEM user as part of
script to connect to DB to Startup/Shutdown and I have the password for same
(horror of horrors???) in the SQL script.  So I'm wondering how othger folks
manage the same process.  Do you use the OS file protection to protect the
SQL file from prying eyes or perhaps a particular Oracle account stripped of
unecessary privs etc to include in script OR is there a antoher more secure
way around this issue that I just have not realised?.

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RE: Ascii code of tab?

2001-02-05 Thread William Beilstein

There is a very helpful Microsoft help file available at

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/r_harvey

that contains references for everything from ascii to codepages, and the best part is 
that it is free.

 David Barbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/01 04:25PM 
^I   Dec - 9   Oct - 011   Hex - 09

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What is ascii code of TAB?

Thanks

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