RE: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Rachna - Decide carefully on which 8.1.7 version to upgrade to. Which
platform are you on? That may help someone give you advice specific to your
platform.


Dennis Williams
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Gurus!

Any docs / URLs / do's don'ts / tips for 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade?
I have gone throught the metalink docs and Oracle Documentation.

Thanks,

-Rachna
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RE: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)

I also found that I had to use SVRMGRL instead of SQLPLUS
when doing the Java install.  Dunno why.  HP-UX 11.0 and 11i.
I think it takes so long because it is reloading and revalidating
the whole entire Java library.  I guessing.

My 2¢ worth...

Mike

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If you have java installed be aware that there are a lot of changes with
8.1.7.  If you have problems with the upgrade you *cannot* simply run
rmjvm.sql and initjvm.sql

There are two documents on removing and installing java which are must reads
(I don't have the numbers handy, sorry).  Allow a lot of time for the java
upgrade.

In the end I found it easier to remove java and do a fresh install (it
helped that we weren't actually using it outside of development at the
time).

Good luck!
Jay Miller

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I have gone throught the metalink docs and Oracle Documentation.

Thanks,

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RE: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread Miller, Jay

If you have java installed be aware that there are a lot of changes with
8.1.7.  If you have problems with the upgrade you *cannot* simply run
rmjvm.sql and initjvm.sql

There are two documents on removing and installing java which are must reads
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upgrade.

In the end I found it easier to remove java and do a fresh install (it
helped that we weren't actually using it outside of development at the
time).

Good luck!
Jay Miller

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Re: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread Ray Stell

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:48:33AM -0800, Rachna Vaidya wrote:
> Gurus!
> 
> Any docs / URLs / do's don'ts / tips for 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade?
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8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread Rachna Vaidya

Gurus!

Any docs / URLs / do's don'ts / tips for 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade?
I have gone throught the metalink docs and Oracle Documentation.

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Re: 64-to-32-bit "upgrade" (was "8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade")

2001-07-19 Thread paquette stephane

I did not have a specific problem, it's just that
patches are 3 to 6 months behind the 32 bit version,
on Solaris anyway. I have 2 bugs fixed in 8163 which
is not available...

Also, we will not have that much ram available so I'm
ok with the 32 bit version.
 --- "Jesse, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> Stephane,
> 
> I've had questions on migrations and upgrades in the
> past and the final
> answer has always been:  It is always safest to
> export/import to change what
> version of Oracle your database uses.  It's
> certainly leaves the tablespaces
> a helluva lot cleaner than the other methods of
> migration!  Of course, in
> what most consider a "downgrade" from 64-to-32-bit,
> I'm not sure the same
> applies...
> 
> BTW, what problems with 64-bit did you encounter?
> 
> Rich Jesse  System/Database
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> I did not find on metalink how to "upgrade" and
> change
> the wordsize from 64bit to 32bit.
> Yes, I'm tired of waiting for patches that never
> come...
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64-to-32-bit "upgrade" (was "8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade")

2001-07-19 Thread Jesse, Rich

Stephane,

I've had questions on migrations and upgrades in the past and the final
answer has always been:  It is always safest to export/import to change what
version of Oracle your database uses.  It's certainly leaves the tablespaces
a helluva lot cleaner than the other methods of migration!  Of course, in
what most consider a "downgrade" from 64-to-32-bit, I'm not sure the same
applies...

BTW, what problems with 64-bit did you encounter?

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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I did not find on metalink how to "upgrade" and change
the wordsize from 64bit to 32bit.
Yes, I'm tired of waiting for patches that never
come...
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Re: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2001-07-19 Thread Brian McGraw

It's pretty simple, actually, to change the wordsize.  Check out the
Oracle8i Migration guide - specifically, page 7-38.

Brian

paquette stephane wrote:

> I did not find on metalink how to "upgrade" and change
> the wordsize from 64bit to 32bit.
> Yes, I'm tired of waiting for patches that never
> come...
>
>  --- Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : >
> > For the record, this isn't a migration, it's an
> > upgrade.
> >
> > A migration is changing your database to a new
> > version.
> >
> > An upgrade is a new release.
> >
> > 8.1.6 -> 8.1.7 is a new release, and an upgrade
> > according to Oracle.
> >
> > Migrations imply much more work than an upgrade.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> > On Thursday 19 July 2001 11:05,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Take a look at the Oracle 8i Mogration Guide, part
> > number A86632-01
> > > (available on Technet).  In particular, review all
> > the steps in Chapter 7.
> > > You can either have the installer do the migration
> > for you, or do it
> > > manually.  I just did a migration from 8.1.6 to
> > 8.1.7.1.3 on NT 4 Sp6a
> > > following the instructions in the document above
> > and had no issues.  FWIW,
> > > I followed the manual path ;-)
> > >
> > > Best of Luck!
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > We are about to do an 'emergency' upgrade from
> > 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 on NT
> > > > 4.0.Since this is the first time we are doing
> > this on NT, I am wondering
> > > > if
> > >
> > > anybody on the list who has been there, done that,
> > and let us know what
> > > kind of caveats we might run into  or just outline
> > the steps we should go
> > > through. I know Oracle provide a GUI tool for this
> > but I don't know if it's
> > > that reliable.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Dennis Meng
> > > Database Administrator
> > > Focal Communications
> > > 847-954-8328
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Re: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2001-07-19 Thread paquette stephane

I did not find on metalink how to "upgrade" and change
the wordsize from 64bit to 32bit.
Yes, I'm tired of waiting for patches that never
come...


 --- Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > 
> For the record, this isn't a migration, it's an
> upgrade.
> 
> A migration is changing your database to a new
> version.
> 
> An upgrade is a new release.
> 
> 8.1.6 -> 8.1.7 is a new release, and an upgrade
> according to Oracle.
> 
> Migrations imply much more work than an upgrade.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> On Thursday 19 July 2001 11:05,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Take a look at the Oracle 8i Mogration Guide, part
> number A86632-01
> > (available on Technet).  In particular, review all
> the steps in Chapter 7. 
> > You can either have the installer do the migration
> for you, or do it
> > manually.  I just did a migration from 8.1.6 to
> 8.1.7.1.3 on NT 4 Sp6a
> > following the instructions in the document above
> and had no issues.  FWIW,
> > I followed the manual path ;-)
> >
> > Best of Luck!
> > Mike
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > We are about to do an 'emergency' upgrade from
> 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 on NT
> > > 4.0.Since this is the first time we are doing
> this on NT, I am wondering
> > > if
> >
> > anybody on the list who has been there, done that,
> and let us know what
> > kind of caveats we might run into  or just outline
> the steps we should go
> > through. I know Oracle provide a GUI tool for this
> but I don't know if it's
> > that reliable.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Dennis Meng
> > Database Administrator
> > Focal Communications
> > 847-954-8328
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Re: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2001-07-19 Thread Jared Still


For the record, this isn't a migration, it's an upgrade.

A migration is changing your database to a new version.

An upgrade is a new release.

8.1.6 -> 8.1.7 is a new release, and an upgrade according to Oracle.

Migrations imply much more work than an upgrade.

Jared


On Thursday 19 July 2001 11:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Take a look at the Oracle 8i Mogration Guide, part number A86632-01
> (available on Technet).  In particular, review all the steps in Chapter 7. 
> You can either have the installer do the migration for you, or do it
> manually.  I just did a migration from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7.1.3 on NT 4 Sp6a
> following the instructions in the document above and had no issues.  FWIW,
> I followed the manual path ;-)
>
> Best of Luck!
> Mike
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > We are about to do an 'emergency' upgrade from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 on NT
> > 4.0.Since this is the first time we are doing this on NT, I am wondering
> > if
>
> anybody on the list who has been there, done that, and let us know what
> kind of caveats we might run into  or just outline the steps we should go
> through. I know Oracle provide a GUI tool for this but I don't know if it's
> that reliable.
>
> TIA
>
> Dennis Meng
> Database Administrator
> Focal Communications
> 847-954-8328
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Re: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2001-07-19 Thread michael_siebert

Take a look at the Oracle 8i Mogration Guide, part number A86632-01 (available on 
Technet).  In particular, review all the steps in Chapter 7.  You can either have the 
installer do the migration for you, or do it manually.  I just did a migration from 
8.1.6 to 8.1.7.1.3 on NT 4 Sp6a following the instructions in the document above and 
had no issues.  FWIW, I followed the manual path ;-)

Best of Luck!
Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We are about to do an 'emergency' upgrade from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 on NT 4.0.Since this 
>is the first time we are doing this on NT, I am wondering if
anybody on the list who has been there, done that, and let us know what
kind of caveats we might run into  or just outline the steps we should go
through. I know Oracle provide a GUI tool for this but I don't know if it's
that reliable.

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
Focal Communications
847-954-8328

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8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2001-07-19 Thread dmeng

We are about to do an 'emergency' upgrade from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 on NT 4.0.
Since this is the first time we are doing this on NT, I am wondering if
anybody on the list who has been there, done that, and let us know what
kind of caveats we might run into  or just outline the steps we should go
through. I know Oracle provide a GUI tool for this but I don't know if it's
that reliable.

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
Focal Communications
847-954-8328

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