Re: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Craig Munday

Hi,
One thing that you will note about 9iAS is that it has a HUGE install
footprint when compared to Weblogic and JBoss. Weblogic and JBoss
are relatively simple to get going, ie. less configuration.
Cheers,
Craig.

At 07:54 PM 22/07/2003 -0800, Ryan wrote:
I havent dug into 9iAS yet, but I
want to learn atleast one of the major web
servers. It appears that WebLogic and Websphere dominate the market. It
also
appears that 9iAS is tedious and has a poor design relative to these
other
two.
What do you think? How different are the webservers? If I pick up one,
does
it translate?
Also, what functionality does 9iAS add that Apache does not have in and
of
itself? I was able to run 9i Forms with just apache and OC4J?
Ryan
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Re: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Ryan
what functionality does 9iAS give you over just running apache?
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 Ryan
My impression is that 9iAS probably has the best database interface.
The
 others look pretty primitive in comparison, basically just JDBC when you
get
 to the bottom. Also, note that Oracle is currently running a special to
lure
 WebLogic and Websphere users away. I think in this confusing, evolving
 market for application servers, a lot depends on your company's approach.
If
 your company is highly committed to Oracle, then 9iAS is the logical
choice.
 If you are highly committed to IBM, then Websphere is the logical choice.
In
 our case we had to persuade people to move away from MS, and the argument
 was that you wouldn't be locked into one vendor, so the tendency has been
to
 avoid Oracle for the non-DB pieces. I think the enterprise-scale AS are so
 complex that it is hard to compare feature-for-feature.

 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
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 I havent dug into 9iAS yet, but I want to learn atleast one of the major
web
 servers. It appears that WebLogic and Websphere dominate the market. It
also
 appears that 9iAS is tedious and has a poor design relative to these other
 two.

 What do you think? How different are the webservers? If I pick up one,
does
 it translate?

 Also, what functionality does 9iAS add that Apache does not have in and of
 itself? I was able to run 9i Forms with just apache and OC4J?

 Ryan

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RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Goulet, Dick
Dennis,

I've heard the not getting locked into one vendor idea before.  It happens 
to be the mantra from our current CIO.  Problem is then that you have vendors pointing 
fingers at the other guys when something goes wrong.  Previous place I worked was ALL 
DEC from the ground up.  Something went wrong you knew who to call  that they would 
have to do something. So there's something to be said for both worlds.  Just depends 
on your desires/policies.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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Ryan
   My impression is that 9iAS probably has the best database interface. The
others look pretty primitive in comparison, basically just JDBC when you get
to the bottom. Also, note that Oracle is currently running a special to lure
WebLogic and Websphere users away. I think in this confusing, evolving
market for application servers, a lot depends on your company's approach. If
your company is highly committed to Oracle, then 9iAS is the logical choice.
If you are highly committed to IBM, then Websphere is the logical choice. In
our case we had to persuade people to move away from MS, and the argument
was that you wouldn't be locked into one vendor, so the tendency has been to
avoid Oracle for the non-DB pieces. I think the enterprise-scale AS are so
complex that it is hard to compare feature-for-feature.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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I havent dug into 9iAS yet, but I want to learn atleast one of the major web
servers. It appears that WebLogic and Websphere dominate the market. It also
appears that 9iAS is tedious and has a poor design relative to these other
two.

What do you think? How different are the webservers? If I pick up one, does
it translate?

Also, what functionality does 9iAS add that Apache does not have in and of
itself? I was able to run 9i Forms with just apache and OC4J?

Ryan

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RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan
I'm no Java expert and am willing to be corrected. My understanding
is that Apache is just a web page server. The better comparison is between
Tomcat and 9iAS. Since most web hits are for just static pages, you may even
chose to have Apache front-end your 9iAS. Over Tomcat, 9iAS is J2EE
compliant. Also more scalability. And if your company isn't ready for open
source, 9iAS offers a big vendor to yell at.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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what functionality does 9iAS give you over just running apache?
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 Ryan
My impression is that 9iAS probably has the best database interface.
The
 others look pretty primitive in comparison, basically just JDBC when you
get
 to the bottom. Also, note that Oracle is currently running a special to
lure
 WebLogic and Websphere users away. I think in this confusing, evolving
 market for application servers, a lot depends on your company's approach.
If
 your company is highly committed to Oracle, then 9iAS is the logical
choice.
 If you are highly committed to IBM, then Websphere is the logical choice.
In
 our case we had to persuade people to move away from MS, and the argument
 was that you wouldn't be locked into one vendor, so the tendency has been
to
 avoid Oracle for the non-DB pieces. I think the enterprise-scale AS are so
 complex that it is hard to compare feature-for-feature.

 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:54 PM
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 I havent dug into 9iAS yet, but I want to learn atleast one of the major
web
 servers. It appears that WebLogic and Websphere dominate the market. It
also
 appears that 9iAS is tedious and has a poor design relative to these other
 two.

 What do you think? How different are the webservers? If I pick up one,
does
 it translate?

 Also, what functionality does 9iAS add that Apache does not have in and of
 itself? I was able to run 9i Forms with just apache and OC4J?

 Ryan

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Re: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Alessandro GuimarĂ£es



Hi,

The Oracle http server (OHS) is a collection of 
three distinct feature sets.

1 - Web Server based on the proven Apache 
technology.It also provides support for WebDAV, with Oracle9iDB as a 
backing store. The Proxy Plug-In component allows Oracle9iAS to be used with 
other web servers such as IIS and NES. 
2 - Dynamic Web Applications- it provides an 
ability to write web applications in several languages - PLSQL, Perl, Server 
Side Include, C/C++ etc. It also provides some frameworks - DMS for monitoring, 
and Java Object Cache for caching Java objects. 
3 - Clustering frameworking for Oracle9ias - The 
new infrastructure enables quick distributed deployment of J2EE applications. It 
also monitors all processes in a cluster for failure and transparently updates 
the routing table for optimal load balancing and minimum runtime impact on 
requests. 

Web servers - Apache, Zeus , ISS
Servlets Engines - Tom Cat, Apache 
Jserver/OC4

Oracle9iAS Release 2 (v9.0.3) is 100% J2EE 1.3 
Compatible(TM).


Alessandro GuimarĂ£es

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Subject: RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and 
Websphere
 Ryan I'm no Java expert and am willing to be corrected. My 
understanding is that Apache is just a web page server. The better 
comparison is between Tomcat and 9iAS. Since most web hits are for just 
static pages, you may even chose to have Apache front-end your 9iAS. 
Over Tomcat, 9iAS is J2EE compliant. Also more scalability. And if your 
company isn't ready for open source, 9iAS offers a big vendor to yell 
at.  Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 
July 23, 2003 9:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  what functionality does 9iAS give you over just running 
apache? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of 
list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:59 AMRyan 
 My impression is that 9iAS probably has the best database 
interface. The  others look pretty primitive in comparison, 
basically just JDBC when you get  to the bottom. Also, note 
that Oracle is currently running a special to lure  WebLogic 
and Websphere users away. I think in this confusing, evolving  
market for application servers, a lot depends on your company's 
approach. If  your company is highly committed to Oracle, 
then 9iAS is the logical choice.  If you are highly 
committed to IBM, then Websphere is the logical choice. In  
our case we had to persuade people to move away from MS, and the 
argument  was that you wouldn't be locked into one vendor, so the 
tendency has been to  avoid Oracle for the non-DB pieces. I 
think the enterprise-scale AS are so  complex that it is hard to 
compare feature-for-feature.   Dennis Williams 
 DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA  Lifetouch, Inc.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   -Original Message-  Sent: 
Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:54 PM  To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LI havent dug into 9iAS yet, but 
I want to learn atleast one of the major web  servers. It 
appears that WebLogic and Websphere dominate the market. It also 
 appears that 9iAS is tedious and has a poor design relative to these 
other  two.   What do you think? How 
different are the webservers? If I pick up one, does  it 
translate?   Also, what functionality does 9iAS add that 
Apache does not have in and of  itself? I was able to run 9i Forms 
with just apache and OC4J?   Ryan  
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RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Stephane Paquette
From past experiences, the only client I've seen using 9iAS is the one being
Oracle wall to wall (and Oracle was a partner in the business, a big
bio-tech startup).
All the other clients running on Oracle databases were using BEA Weblogic or
IBM Websphere.


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Ryan
I'm no Java expert and am willing to be corrected. My understanding
is that Apache is just a web page server. The better comparison is between
Tomcat and 9iAS. Since most web hits are for just static pages, you may even
chose to have Apache front-end your 9iAS. Over Tomcat, 9iAS is J2EE
compliant. Also more scalability. And if your company isn't ready for open
source, 9iAS offers a big vendor to yell at.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
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what functionality does 9iAS give you over just running apache?
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:59 AM


 Ryan
My impression is that 9iAS probably has the best database interface.
The
 others look pretty primitive in comparison, basically just JDBC when you
get
 to the bottom. Also, note that Oracle is currently running a special to
lure
 WebLogic and Websphere users away. I think in this confusing, evolving
 market for application servers, a lot depends on your company's approach.
If
 your company is highly committed to Oracle, then 9iAS is the logical
choice.
 If you are highly committed to IBM, then Websphere is the logical choice.
In
 our case we had to persuade people to move away from MS, and the argument
 was that you wouldn't be locked into one vendor, so the tendency has been
to
 avoid Oracle for the non-DB pieces. I think the enterprise-scale AS are so
 complex that it is hard to compare feature-for-feature.

 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 I havent dug into 9iAS yet, but I want to learn atleast one of the major
web
 servers. It appears that WebLogic and Websphere dominate the market. It
also
 appears that 9iAS is tedious and has a poor design relative to these other
 two.

 What do you think? How different are the webservers? If I pick up one,
does
 it translate?

 Also, what functionality does 9iAS add that Apache does not have in and of
 itself? I was able to run 9i Forms with just apache and OC4J?

 Ryan

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RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Tierstein, Leslie
Oracle plug-ins like Web PL/SQL and Portal require 9iAS. And PL/SQL server
pages, I think. 

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 Ryan
My impression is that 9iAS probably has the best database interface.
The
 others look pretty primitive in comparison, basically just JDBC when you
get
 to the bottom. Also, note that Oracle is currently running a special to
lure
 WebLogic and Websphere users away. I think in this confusing, evolving 
 market for application servers, a lot depends on your company's approach.
If
 your company is highly committed to Oracle, then 9iAS is the logical
choice.
 If you are highly committed to IBM, then Websphere is the logical choice.
In
 our case we had to persuade people to move away from MS, and the 
 argument was that you wouldn't be locked into one vendor, so the 
 tendency has been to
 avoid Oracle for the non-DB pieces. I think the enterprise-scale AS 
 are so complex that it is hard to compare feature-for-feature.

 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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 I havent dug into 9iAS yet, but I want to learn atleast one of the 
 major
web
 servers. It appears that WebLogic and Websphere dominate the market. 
 It
also
 appears that 9iAS is tedious and has a poor design relative to these 
 other two.

 What do you think? How different are the webservers? If I pick up one,
does
 it translate?

 Also, what functionality does 9iAS add that Apache does not have in 
 and of itself? I was able to run 9i Forms with just apache and OC4J?

 Ryan

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9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-22 Thread Ryan
I havent dug into 9iAS yet, but I want to learn atleast one of the major web
servers. It appears that WebLogic and Websphere dominate the market. It also
appears that 9iAS is tedious and has a poor design relative to these other
two.

What do you think? How different are the webservers? If I pick up one, does
it translate?

Also, what functionality does 9iAS add that Apache does not have in and of
itself? I was able to run 9i Forms with just apache and OC4J?

Ryan

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