RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
So much printing ... no wonder we have a lot of dead trees now !!!

wide grin
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Back in the early 80's at school we had a towers of hanoi running in PL/1 
On Nixdorf 8820, a teletype with matrix printer, printing out the full 
configuration after every move you made

Regards, Carel-Jan


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RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-10 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Good morning all:

  Well some good news, especially for April Wells.  I could not find the
TSO/CLIST version of the workshop (we removed it from the class and replaced
it with another complicated workshop from the Data Structures and PL/I
Exercise handbook), however, I think I found the PL/I version.  I will have
to wait until next week when our instructors are back from Europe and I will
ping them.

  Jared:  Given that we don't like attachments, any ideas on how to post
this thing?  Reply direct to me.

Thank You

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Carel-Jan Engel
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:09 PM
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Subject:RE: A brief detour;-)

Back in the early 80's at school we had a towers of hanoi running in PL/1 
On Nixdorf 8820, a teletype with matrix printer, printing out the full 
configuration after every move you made

Regards, Carel-Jan

-- There will always be another 10 last bugs --

  At 07:24 9-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
Hate to say this but you are a bit late.  I had my students at University
and here at Compuware create three to four different versions of the
Tower's
of Hanoi solution in PL/SQL.  Used PL/SQL tables, stack processing,
recursion (yes it can be done), and others.  I also had (yep had - lost
this) one for both PL/I and TSO/CLIST Dialog Manager  VMS DCL.  I actually
created screens where you could dynamically choose the number of pegs and
pieces.  It also verified that you were putting smaller pieces on top of
larger ones (one of the core rules for Tof H).

Isn't programming great?

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
Technical Alliance Manager
Compuware Corporation
Direct: (313) 227-4350
Mobile: (248) 408-2918
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:www.compuware.com

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Bobak, Mark
Sent:   Monday, December 08, 2003 4:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:A brief detour;-)

So, I saw on SlashDot (http://www.slashdot.org/) a story about a guy who
has
over 100 different implementations of the Towers of Hanoi solution, each in
a different language.  Since he didn't have one in PL/SQL, I decided to
write one.

Here it is:
create or replace package hanoi
is
from_peg  constant number := 1;
to_pegconstant number := 3;
using_peg constant number := 2;

procedure play(n number);

end hanoi;
/
create or replace package body hanoi
is

procedure do_hanoi(n number, from_peg number, to_peg number, using_peg
number)
is
begin
 if(n  0) then
 do_hanoi(n-1,from_peg, using_peg, to_peg);
 dbms_output.put_line('move '||from_peg||' -- '||to_peg);
 do_hanoi(n-1, using_peg, to_peg, from_peg);
 end if;
end;
procedure play(n number)
is
begin
 do_hanoi(n, from_peg, to_peg, using_peg);
end;
end;
/

This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return you to our
regularly scheduled programming.

-Mark

PS  Yes, it's a slow day;-)
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RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-10 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Apologies..

Carel-Jan

-- There will allways be another 10 last bugs --

 So much printing ... no wonder we have a lot of dead trees now !!!

 wide grin
 Raj
 
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 On Nixdorf 8820, a teletype with matrix printer, printing out the full
 configuration after every move you made

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RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-09 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I am just glad that so many on this read /. too ... that's my homepage ... on my 
Firebird browser.

Raj

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Vladimir,

Nice solution!  I had first briefly considered a SQL solution, but it didn't
immediately come to mind, and the PL/SQL recursive solution was pretty
straightforward, so, I went that direction.  I wasn't really too concerned
about expense, in this case;-)  I don't see too many practical
applications. ;-)

-Mark


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Subject:Re: A brief detour;-)
Bobak, Mark wrote:
  Here it is:
[...]
  This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return
  you to our regularly scheduled programming.

Interesting. PL/SQL recursive solutions are expensive, though. :)
Did not check it, maybe something alike was posted already...

SET VERIFY OFF PAGES 200
DEFINE disks=7
REM Please do not use all_objects :)
DEFINE big_table=all_objects
COLUMN Implementation Plan FORMAT A20
SPOOL hanoi_solution.txt
SELECT 'Move it from '
 || TO_CHAR(MOD(BITAND(ROWNUM, ROWNUM - 1), 3) + 1)
 || ' to '
 || TO_CHAR(MOD(-BITAND(-ROWNUM - 1, -ROWNUM), 3) + 1) AS Implementation Plan
   FROM big_table
  WHERE ROWNUM  POWER(2, disks)
AND disks  8
/
SPOOL OFF

Should work correctly.

Regards,
-- 
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RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-09 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Hate to say this but you are a bit late.  I had my students at University
and here at Compuware create three to four different versions of the Tower's
of Hanoi solution in PL/SQL.  Used PL/SQL tables, stack processing,
recursion (yes it can be done), and others.  I also had (yep had - lost
this) one for both PL/I and TSO/CLIST Dialog Manager  VMS DCL.  I actually
created screens where you could dynamically choose the number of pegs and
pieces.  It also verified that you were putting smaller pieces on top of
larger ones (one of the core rules for Tof H).  

Isn't programming great?

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
Technical Alliance Manager
Compuware Corporation
Direct: (313) 227-4350
Mobile: (248) 408-2918
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Web:www.compuware.com 

 -Original Message-
Bobak, Mark
Sent:   Monday, December 08, 2003 4:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:A brief detour;-)

So, I saw on SlashDot (http://www.slashdot.org/) a story about a guy who has
over 100 different implementations of the Towers of Hanoi solution, each in
a different language.  Since he didn't have one in PL/SQL, I decided to
write one.  

Here it is:
create or replace package hanoi
is
from_peg  constant number := 1;
to_pegconstant number := 3;
using_peg constant number := 2;

procedure play(n number);

end hanoi;
/
create or replace package body hanoi
is

procedure do_hanoi(n number, from_peg number, to_peg number, using_peg
number)
is
begin
if(n  0) then
do_hanoi(n-1,from_peg, using_peg, to_peg);
dbms_output.put_line('move '||from_peg||' -- '||to_peg);
do_hanoi(n-1, using_peg, to_peg, from_peg);
end if;
end;
procedure play(n number)
is
begin
do_hanoi(n, from_peg, to_peg, using_peg);
end;
end;
/

This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return you to our
regularly scheduled programming.

-Mark

PS  Yes, it's a slow day;-)
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Re: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-09 Thread Tanel Poder
Is there any for windows command shell? :)

Tanel.

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 Hate to say this but you are a bit late.  I had my students at University
 and here at Compuware create three to four different versions of the
Tower's
 of Hanoi solution in PL/SQL.  Used PL/SQL tables, stack processing,
 recursion (yes it can be done), and others.  I also had (yep had - lost
 this) one for both PL/I and TSO/CLIST Dialog Manager  VMS DCL.  I
actually
 created screens where you could dynamically choose the number of pegs and
 pieces.  It also verified that you were putting smaller pieces on top of
 larger ones (one of the core rules for Tof H).

 Isn't programming great?

 Thank You

 Stephen P. Karniotis
 Technical Alliance Manager
 Compuware Corporation
 Direct: (313) 227-4350
 Mobile: (248) 408-2918
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web: www.compuware.com

  -Original Message-
 Bobak, Mark
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:19 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: A brief detour;-)

 So, I saw on SlashDot (http://www.slashdot.org/) a story about a guy who
has
 over 100 different implementations of the Towers of Hanoi solution, each
in
 a different language.  Since he didn't have one in PL/SQL, I decided to
 write one.

 Here it is:
 create or replace package hanoi
 is
 from_peg  constant number := 1;
 to_pegconstant number := 3;
 using_peg constant number := 2;

 procedure play(n number);

 end hanoi;
 /
 create or replace package body hanoi
 is

 procedure do_hanoi(n number, from_peg number, to_peg number, using_peg
 number)
 is
 begin
 if(n  0) then
 do_hanoi(n-1,from_peg, using_peg, to_peg);
 dbms_output.put_line('move '||from_peg||' -- '||to_peg);
 do_hanoi(n-1, using_peg, to_peg, from_peg);
 end if;
 end;
 procedure play(n number)
 is
 begin
 do_hanoi(n, from_peg, to_peg, using_peg);
 end;
 end;
 /

 This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return you to our
 regularly scheduled programming.

 -Mark

 PS  Yes, it's a slow day;-)
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Re: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-09 Thread Yechiel Adar
You are bringing up old memories.
I had both PL/1 and assembler (IBM mainframe) in the early 70's.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 Hate to say this but you are a bit late.  I had my students at University
 and here at Compuware create three to four different versions of the
Tower's
 of Hanoi solution in PL/SQL.  Used PL/SQL tables, stack processing,
 recursion (yes it can be done), and others.  I also had (yep had - lost
 this) one for both PL/I and TSO/CLIST Dialog Manager  VMS DCL.  I
actually
 created screens where you could dynamically choose the number of pegs and
 pieces.  It also verified that you were putting smaller pieces on top of
 larger ones (one of the core rules for Tof H).

 Isn't programming great?

 Thank You

 Stephen P. Karniotis
 Technical Alliance Manager
 Compuware Corporation
 Direct: (313) 227-4350
 Mobile: (248) 408-2918
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web: www.compuware.com

  -Original Message-
 Bobak, Mark
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:19 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: A brief detour;-)

 So, I saw on SlashDot (http://www.slashdot.org/) a story about a guy who
has
 over 100 different implementations of the Towers of Hanoi solution, each
in
 a different language.  Since he didn't have one in PL/SQL, I decided to
 write one.

 Here it is:
 create or replace package hanoi
 is
 from_peg  constant number := 1;
 to_pegconstant number := 3;
 using_peg constant number := 2;

 procedure play(n number);

 end hanoi;
 /
 create or replace package body hanoi
 is

 procedure do_hanoi(n number, from_peg number, to_peg number, using_peg
 number)
 is
 begin
 if(n  0) then
 do_hanoi(n-1,from_peg, using_peg, to_peg);
 dbms_output.put_line('move '||from_peg||' -- '||to_peg);
 do_hanoi(n-1, using_peg, to_peg, from_peg);
 end if;
 end;
 procedure play(n number)
 is
 begin
 do_hanoi(n, from_peg, to_peg, using_peg);
 end;
 end;
 /

 This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return you to our
 regularly scheduled programming.

 -Mark

 PS  Yes, it's a slow day;-)
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RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-09 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I used to have a macro for VI but have lost it.

Raj

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Hate to say this but you are a bit late.  I had my students at University
and here at Compuware create three to four different versions of the Tower's
of Hanoi solution in PL/SQL.  Used PL/SQL tables, stack processing,
recursion (yes it can be done), and others.  I also had (yep had - lost
this) one for both PL/I and TSO/CLIST Dialog Manager  VMS DCL.  I actually
created screens where you could dynamically choose the number of pegs and
pieces.  It also verified that you were putting smaller pieces on top of
larger ones (one of the core rules for Tof H).  

Isn't programming great?


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Re: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-09 Thread Vladimir Begun
Bobak, Mark wrote:
Nice solution!  I had first briefly considered a SQL solution, but it didn't
I like simple ones.

immediately come to mind, and the PL/SQL recursive solution was pretty
straightforward, so, I went that direction.  I wasn't really too concerned
about expense, in this case;-)  I don't see too many practical
applications. ;-)
I did not want to discuss this particular case. It's a good one.
Good as an example.
There was/is a practical application of recursive solution ( 9i) --
check standard.replace which is not so nice if it's heavily used.
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RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-09 Thread John Flack
My memories of PL/1 are more unusual - I programmed a pre-CPM Z80 based machine in its 
own dialect of PL/1 in the late 70s early 80s.

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You are bringing up old memories.
I had both PL/1 and assembler (IBM mainframe) in the early 70's.

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RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-09 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Back in the early 80's at school we had a towers of hanoi running in PL/1 
On Nixdorf 8820, a teletype with matrix printer, printing out the full 
configuration after every move you made

Regards, Carel-Jan

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 At 07:24 9-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
Hate to say this but you are a bit late.  I had my students at University
and here at Compuware create three to four different versions of the Tower's
of Hanoi solution in PL/SQL.  Used PL/SQL tables, stack processing,
recursion (yes it can be done), and others.  I also had (yep had - lost
this) one for both PL/I and TSO/CLIST Dialog Manager  VMS DCL.  I actually
created screens where you could dynamically choose the number of pegs and
pieces.  It also verified that you were putting smaller pieces on top of
larger ones (one of the core rules for Tof H).
Isn't programming great?

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Subject:A brief detour;-)
So, I saw on SlashDot (http://www.slashdot.org/) a story about a guy who has
over 100 different implementations of the Towers of Hanoi solution, each in
a different language.  Since he didn't have one in PL/SQL, I decided to
write one.
Here it is:
create or replace package hanoi
is
from_peg  constant number := 1;
to_pegconstant number := 3;
using_peg constant number := 2;
procedure play(n number);

end hanoi;
/
create or replace package body hanoi
is
procedure do_hanoi(n number, from_peg number, to_peg number, using_peg
number)
is
begin
if(n  0) then
do_hanoi(n-1,from_peg, using_peg, to_peg);
dbms_output.put_line('move '||from_peg||' -- '||to_peg);
do_hanoi(n-1, using_peg, to_peg, from_peg);
end if;
end;
procedure play(n number)
is
begin
do_hanoi(n, from_peg, to_peg, using_peg);
end;
end;
/
This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return you to our
regularly scheduled programming.
-Mark

PS  Yes, it's a slow day;-)
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A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-08 Thread Bobak, Mark
So, I saw on SlashDot (http://www.slashdot.org/) a story about a guy who has over 100 
different implementations of the Towers of Hanoi solution, each in a different 
language.  Since he didn't have one in PL/SQL, I decided to write one.  

Here it is:
create or replace package hanoi
is
from_peg  constant number := 1;
to_pegconstant number := 3;
using_peg constant number := 2;

procedure play(n number);

end hanoi;
/
create or replace package body hanoi
is

procedure do_hanoi(n number, from_peg number, to_peg number, using_peg number)
is
begin
if(n  0) then
do_hanoi(n-1,from_peg, using_peg, to_peg);
dbms_output.put_line('move '||from_peg||' -- '||to_peg);
do_hanoi(n-1, using_peg, to_peg, from_peg);
end if;
end;
procedure play(n number)
is
begin
do_hanoi(n, from_peg, to_peg, using_peg);
end;
end;
/

This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return you to our regularly 
scheduled programming.

-Mark

PS  Yes, it's a slow day;-)
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Re: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-08 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Monday, December 8, 2003, 4:19:27 PM, Bobak, Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
BM So, I saw on SlashDot (http://www.slashdot.org/) a story
BM about a guy who has over 100 different implementations
BM of the Towers of Hanoi solution, each in a different
BM language. Since he didn't have one in PL/SQL,

Aw, PL/SQL never gets no respect.

BM I decided to write one.

Cool! I hope you posted the PL/SQL solution on Slashdot too.

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Re: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-08 Thread Vladimir Begun
Bobak, Mark wrote:
 Here it is:
[...]
 This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return
 you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Interesting. PL/SQL recursive solutions are expensive, though. :)
Did not check it, maybe something alike was posted already...
SET VERIFY OFF PAGES 200
DEFINE disks=7
REM Please do not use all_objects :)
DEFINE big_table=all_objects
COLUMN Implementation Plan FORMAT A20
SPOOL hanoi_solution.txt
SELECT 'Move it from '
|| TO_CHAR(MOD(BITAND(ROWNUM, ROWNUM - 1), 3) + 1)
|| ' to '
|| TO_CHAR(MOD(-BITAND(-ROWNUM - 1, -ROWNUM), 3) + 1) AS Implementation Plan
  FROM big_table
 WHERE ROWNUM  POWER(2, disks)
   AND disks  8
/
SPOOL OFF
Should work correctly.

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RE: A brief detour....;-)

2003-12-08 Thread Bobak, Mark
Vladimir,

Nice solution!  I had first briefly considered a SQL solution, but it didn't
immediately come to mind, and the PL/SQL recursive solution was pretty
straightforward, so, I went that direction.  I wasn't really too concerned
about expense, in this case;-)  I don't see too many practical
applications. ;-)

-Mark


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Subject:Re: A brief detour;-)
Bobak, Mark wrote:
  Here it is:
[...]
  This concludes this public service announcement.  We now return
  you to our regularly scheduled programming.

Interesting. PL/SQL recursive solutions are expensive, though. :)
Did not check it, maybe something alike was posted already...

SET VERIFY OFF PAGES 200
DEFINE disks=7
REM Please do not use all_objects :)
DEFINE big_table=all_objects
COLUMN Implementation Plan FORMAT A20
SPOOL hanoi_solution.txt
SELECT 'Move it from '
 || TO_CHAR(MOD(BITAND(ROWNUM, ROWNUM - 1), 3) + 1)
 || ' to '
 || TO_CHAR(MOD(-BITAND(-ROWNUM - 1, -ROWNUM), 3) + 1) AS Implementation Plan
   FROM big_table
  WHERE ROWNUM  POWER(2, disks)
AND disks  8
/
SPOOL OFF

Should work correctly.

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