A question for the hourlies out there...
Friends -- I find it weird that I've been consulting some 25 years and have never run into this situation, and really could use your two cents. Here's the deal. I am supposed to travel for a client. They have me on a plane Sunday, expect me to work M-F onsite *and possibly the weekend*, returning Monday. Now, if I get to the airport at 9AM for a flight at 11AM and arrives at 3PM for a client meeting at 4-6PM, how does that bill? M-F, I bill for hours onsite. If I work Sat/Sun, I bill for hours onsite... but what if I don't? My time isn't my own... I'm at the client's service... I'm not with my family... that's not time off... how does that bill? Monday, I get to the airport at 6AM for a flight at 8AM arriving back at 3PM... does that bill a full day, or just time in the air? TIA! Bambi. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: A question for the hourlies out there...
If you have to travel at the client's request / requirement, then you should be able to bill for your travel time, beginning with the time you arrive at the airport and ending with the arrival time. Any weekend work for the client should be billed for the time onsite. (You may want to consider billing the travel time at a reduced rate.) I would think that you would want to negotiate this with the client before you travel and put it in writing, so that there are no surprises at invoice time. Remember, the client is hiring your expertise and your time is valuable. My $.02 -Original Message- Bellow, Bambi Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Friends -- I find it weird that I've been consulting some 25 years and have never run into this situation, and really could use your two cents. Here's the deal. I am supposed to travel for a client. They have me on a plane Sunday, expect me to work M-F onsite *and possibly the weekend*, returning Monday. Now, if I get to the airport at 9AM for a flight at 11AM and arrives at 3PM for a client meeting at 4-6PM, how does that bill? M-F, I bill for hours onsite. If I work Sat/Sun, I bill for hours onsite... but what if I don't? My time isn't my own... I'm at the client's service... I'm not with my family... that's not time off... how does that bill? Monday, I get to the airport at 6AM for a flight at 8AM arriving back at 3PM... does that bill a full day, or just time in the air? TIA! Bambi. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gary W. Parker INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: A question for the hourlies out there...
In States things are probably different, but in few European companies I've worked for, it's that you get paid for the hours you work (naturally), if you work on the weekends you get paid as well - if don't then you don't. If you arrive one day earlier for being able to start in the morning next day, they paid half a day for that or smth. Of course, it matters what you've negotiated in your contract. I hope this helped, Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:09 AM Friends -- I find it weird that I've been consulting some 25 years and have never run into this situation, and really could use your two cents. Here's the deal. I am supposed to travel for a client. They have me on a plane Sunday, expect me to work M-F onsite *and possibly the weekend*, returning Monday. Now, if I get to the airport at 9AM for a flight at 11AM and arrives at 3PM for a client meeting at 4-6PM, how does that bill? M-F, I bill for hours onsite. If I work Sat/Sun, I bill for hours onsite... but what if I don't? My time isn't my own... I'm at the client's service... I'm not with my family... that's not time off... how does that bill? Monday, I get to the airport at 6AM for a flight at 8AM arriving back at 3PM... does that bill a full day, or just time in the air? TIA! Bambi. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: A question for the hourlies out there...
Bellow, Bambi wrote: Friends -- I find it weird that I've been consulting some 25 years and have never run into this situation, and really could use your two cents. Here's the deal. I am supposed to travel for a client. They have me on a plane Sunday, expect me to work M-F onsite *and possibly the weekend*, returning Monday. Now, if I get to the airport at 9AM for a flight at 11AM and arrives at 3PM for a client meeting at 4-6PM, how does that bill? M-F, I bill for hours onsite. If I work Sat/Sun, I bill for hours onsite... but what if I don't? My time isn't my own... I'm at the client's service... I'm not with my family... that's not time off... how does that bill? Monday, I get to the airport at 6AM for a flight at 8AM arriving back at 3PM... does that bill a full day, or just time in the air? TIA! Bambi. I usually bill per day, not per hour, but a couple of years ago I had a contract where I was spending 2 days every two weeks at a place considerably more remote from my home than my ususal contracts (something like 4 hours door to door). I was arriving at 11am, leaving the following day at 4pm and fully billing two days. You can argue, which is usually true, that you can read doc and write reports at the airport or in the plane. I have also been sent to Singapore by a French company, the day spent in the plane (business class) eating, watching movies and being pampered by stewardesses was invoiced at the usual rate. -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Ltd -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
