Books on rac
any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Books on rac
AS OF NOW, I have not come across a book which talks about RAC at a detailed level (at least to the level we expect). There are couple of books in the market, but they cover very little on RAC (Concepts and Internals) But, the Oracle Documentation (At least for the RAC part) is very good and it is very readable and has all the information you need. --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). = Have a nice day !! Best Regards, K Gopalakrishnan, Bangalore, INDIA. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: K Gopalakrishnan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Books on rac
Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Books on rac
I've read a couple of the books available on RAC: - Oracle9i RAC by Madhu Tumma and Mike Ault is decent, I'd give it a 2.5 out of 5. Good multi-platform coverage and decent coverage of the internals. The book suffers from poor layout/editing. The graphics look like they're photocopied and the text material seems a bit unstructured and is poorly indexed. The tuning chapter is also weak. - Oracle Real Application Clusters by Murali Vallath has a lot of generic Oracle DBA material and can might appear as an Oracle overview with RAC chapters added. I sent my copy back to Amazon. For some reason a this title have gotten a lot of good reviews on Amazon. I've by far found Metalink the best source for RAC documentation. Sten -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rognes, Sten INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Books on rac
Joe/Ron, Hope I am not beating anyone down, but a colleague has this particular book and said that much of it was a 'cut-and-paste' from the manual... I haven't read it yet, but I can verify this (offline) if you so need. OTOH, I do know that Murali Vallath has a book out on RAC, and I know for sure that he has worked on many RAC installations so you *might* get something from there... As ever, this is my $0.02 (which is not worth much against the Euro!), and carries my standard disclaimer. John Kanagaraj DB Soft Inc Phone: 408-970-7002 (W) Grace - Getting something we do NOT deserve Mercy - NOT getting something we DO deserve Click on 'http://www.needhim.org' for Grace and Mercy that is freely available! ** The opinions and facts contained in this message are entirely mine and do not reflect those of my employer or customers ** -Original Message- From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Books on rac Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Books on rac
beware the rampant press books. Most of them seem to be total garbage. All in large print with little detail. I didnt think much of the Ault Internals book from Rampant... its basically stuff you can copy and paste from metalink. Dont know about his RAC book. However, all the other non-Ault books from Rampant are total trash. There is another RAC book with some stuff on 10g by a guy who monitors this listserv(Murali Vallath). I have a copy of it, but have not read it yet. Anyone read either of those RAC books? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Books on rac
Partly because of the complexity of the technology and uniqueness of each environment, no book in the field will be 100 per cent of what anyone of us needs; however, the following is on my database team's bookshelves: Oracle 9i RAC By Mike Ault Published August 2003 by Rampant Tech Press ISBN: 0972751300 Pages: 606 Regards, William Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: William R. Jones INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Books on rac
Title: RE: Books on rac wait... mine wasn't THAT bad... isn't out yet... but isn't that bad. April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas @-- Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age 11 -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Books on rac beware the rampant press books. Most of them seem to be total garbage. All in large print with little detail. I didnt think much of the Ault Internals book from Rampant... its basically stuff you can copy and paste from metalink. Dont know about his RAC book. However, all the other non-Ault books from Rampant are total trash. There is another RAC book with some stuff on 10g by a guy who monitors this listserv(Murali Vallath). I have a copy of it, but have not read it yet. Anyone read either of those RAC books? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication, including attachments, is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also contain proprietary, price sensitive, or legally privileged information. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, distribution, dissemination, use, or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail, delete this communication, and destroy all copies. Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken reasonable precautions to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We specifically disclaim all liability and will accept no responsibility for damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you to carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment.
Re[2]: Books on rac
Hello April, I thought you were writing for CRC Press, not Rampant. Did you switch publishers? Best regards, Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Join the Oracle-article list and receive one article on Oracle technologies per month by email. To join, visit http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/oracle-article, or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the word subscribe in either the subject or body. Friday, January 9, 2004, 4:14:26 PM, April Wells ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: AW wait... mine wasn't THAT bad... isn't out yet... but isn't that bad. AW April Wells AW Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA AW Corporate Systems AW Amarillo Texas AW @-- AW Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite AW Adam Wells age 11 AW -Original Message- AW Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:59 PM AW To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L AW beware the rampant press books. Most of them seem to be total garbage. All AW in large print with little detail. I didnt think much of the Ault Internals AW book from Rampant... its basically stuff you can copy and paste from AW metalink. AW Dont know about his RAC book. However, all the other non-Ault books from AW Rampant are total trash. AW There is another RAC book with some stuff on 10g by a guy who monitors this AW listserv(Murali Vallath). I have a copy of it, but have not read it yet. AW Anyone read either of those RAC books? AW - Original Message - AW To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] AW Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). AW -- AW Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Books on rac
Title: RE: Books on rac "all the other non-Ault books from Rampant are total trash." That's a pretty strong statement, Ryan! Mine is a non-Ault Rampant book; does it count, too? Before you trash the book and commit the statement, can I interest you in at least taking a look at it? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0972751394/qid%3D1073685823/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-5146136-6379164 Six months of hard work gotta deserve something better than the recyclebin, I sincerely hope. Regards, Arup Nanda - Original Message - From: April Wells To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: RE: Books on rac wait... mine wasn't THAT bad... isn't out yet... but isn't that bad. April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas @-- Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age 11 -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Books on rac beware the rampant press books. Most of them seem to be total garbage. All in large print with little detail. I didnt think much of the Ault Internals book from Rampant... its basically stuff you can copy and paste from metalink. Dont know about his RAC book. However, all the other non-Ault books from Rampant are total trash. There is another RAC book with some stuff on 10g by a guy who monitors this listserv(Murali Vallath). I have a copy of it, but have not read it yet. Anyone read either of those RAC books? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication, including attachments, is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also contain proprietary, price sensitive, or legally privileged information. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, distribution, dissemination, use, or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immedia
RE: Re[2]: Books on rac
Title: RE: Re[2]: Books on rac Hi Jonathan Don asked me if I would be interested in writing the Programmers Interview book... the Apps book was just done, so I took him up on the offer. I am writing for CRC... in fact I have one in process now for them. April -Original Message- From: Jonathan Gennick To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 1/9/2004 4:04 PM Subject: Re[2]: Books on rac Hello April, I thought you were writing for CRC Press, not Rampant. Did you switch publishers? Best regards, Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Join the Oracle-article list and receive one article on Oracle technologies per month by email. To join, visit http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/oracle-article, or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the word subscribe in either the subject or body. Friday, January 9, 2004, 4:14:26 PM, April Wells ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: AW wait... mine wasn't THAT bad... isn't out yet... but isn't that bad. AW April Wells AW Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA AW Corporate Systems AW Amarillo Texas AW @-- AW Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite AW Adam Wells age 11 AW -Original Message- AW Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:59 PM AW To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L AW beware the rampant press books. Most of them seem to be total garbage. All AW in large print with little detail. I didnt think much of the Ault Internals AW book from Rampant... its basically stuff you can copy and paste from AW metalink. AW Dont know about his RAC book. However, all the other non-Ault books from AW Rampant are total trash. AW There is another RAC book with some stuff on 10g by a guy who monitors this AW listserv(Murali Vallath). I have a copy of it, but have not read it yet. AW Anyone read either of those RAC books? AW - Original Message - AW To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] AW Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). AW -- AW Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication, including attachments, is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also contain proprietary, price sensitive, or legally privileged information. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, distribution, dissemination, use, or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended
Re: Books on rac
Title: RE: Books on rac OK, that statement wasn't fair. I have not looked at Arup's book. I have no interest in HIPAA. So I shouldn't speak on it. These are the Rampant books I have skimmed through that I do not like. However, I have skimmed through several. All the one's I have looked at appear to have been rushed out. Weak editing. Much of it is practically copy and pasted from the docs or copy and pasted from other books written by the authors. Sorry Arup. I shouldn't have made a statement quite that strong. If you plan on writing a quality book, why would you go with this publisher anyway? The low quality of other books from the press make many people unlikely to buy your book. I recently got an email from a Rampant author who said the following(this person will remain nameless) Don't back down... I feel the same way. I love to write, and it was between other writing Gigs when Don asked if I would write it... so I agreed. They do boiler plate (at least the ENTIRE interview series is Boiler plate), and they do it VERY badly... He swore at me more times than I can count because I cared about my writing and he cared about getting the books out as quickly and inexpensively as possible. I THOUGHT that since Mike Ault and a few others wrote for him, that he was more reputable... - Original Message - From: Arup Nanda To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Books on rac "all the other non-Ault books from Rampant are total trash." That's a pretty strong statement, Ryan! Mine is a non-Ault Rampant book; does it count, too? Before you trash the book and commit the statement, can I interest you in at least taking a look at it? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0972751394/qid%3D1073685823/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-5146136-6379164 Six months of hard work gotta deserve something better than the recyclebin, I sincerely hope. Regards, Arup Nanda - Original Message - From: April Wells To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: RE: Books on rac wait... mine wasn't THAT bad... isn't out yet... but isn't that bad. April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas @-- Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age 11 -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Books on rac beware the rampant press books. Most of them seem to be total garbage. All in large print with little detail. I didnt think much of the Ault Internals book from Rampant... its basically stuff you can copy and paste from metalink. Dont know about his RAC book. However, all the other non-Ault books from Rampant are total trash. There is another RAC book with some stuff on 10g by a guy who monitors this listserv(Murali Vallath). I have a copy of it, but have not read it yet. Anyone read either of those RAC books? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and
Re: Books on rac
Ouch! That's a little harsh isn't Ryan? Especially for a public forum. The first Oracle book I bought was by Mike Ault. It was fairly decent, and was certainly better than just having the manuals. I no longer have it, as it was Oracle 7 specific. The second book was Gurry and Corrigan's. You can find very un-useful books from any publisher. You can also find errors or misconceptions in nearly any Oracle book published. Jared Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 12:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Books on rac beware the rampant press books. Most of them seem to be total garbage. All in large print with little detail. I didnt think much of the Ault Internals book from Rampant... its basically stuff you can copy and paste from metalink. Dont know about his RAC book. However, all the other non-Ault books from Rampant are total trash. There is another RAC book with some stuff on 10g by a guy who monitors this listserv(Murali Vallath). I have a copy of it, but have not read it yet. Anyone read either of those RAC books? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Joe, Last year at the midaltantic Oracle users group seminars there was a presentation by Mike Ault what was very informative on RAC with a budget. I believe that he has some decent information available. You might check www.rampant-books.com for his works. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 2:59:26 PM any recommendations? of course besides the oracle docs and technet, which i think i downloaded all that i need. joe -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Books on rac
Ryan, This kind of post does not belong on this list. The quote from a private email exhibits some rather bad judgement IMO, even if it was anonymously attributed. Jared Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2004 02:54 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Books on rac OK, that statement wasn't fair. I have not looked at Arup's book. I have no interest in HIPAA. So I shouldn't speak on it. These are the Rampant books I have skimmed through that I do not like. However, I have skimmed through several. All the one's I have looked at appear to have been rushed out. Weak editing. Much of it is practically copy and pasted from the docs or copy and pasted from other books written by the authors. Sorry Arup. I shouldn't have made a statement quite that strong. If you plan on writing a quality book, why would you go with this publisher anyway? The low quality of other books from the press make many people unlikely to buy your book. I recently got an email from a Rampant author who said the following(this person will remain nameless) Don't back down... I feel the same way. I love to write, and it was between other writing Gigs when Don asked if I would write it... so I agreed. They do boiler plate (at least the ENTIRE interview series is Boiler plate), and they do it VERY badly... He swore at me more times than I can count because I cared about my writing and he cared about getting the books out as quickly and inexpensively as possible. I THOUGHT that since Mike Ault and a few others wrote for him, that he was more reputable... - Original Message - From: Arup Nanda To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Books on rac all the other non-Ault books from Rampant are total trash. That's a pretty strong statement, Ryan! Mine is a non-Ault Rampant book; does it count, too? Before you trash the book and commit the statement, can I interest you in at least taking a look at it? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0972751394/qid%3D1073685823/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-5146136-6379164 Six months of hard work gotta deserve something better than the recyclebin, I sincerely hope. Regards, Arup Nanda
