Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-19 Thread Yechiel Adar
What version are you on?

If less then 9i use the method posted by Hemant K Chitale.

Yechiel Adar
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 Well, I mean that OS (w2k) file size of temp01.ora grows faster... I've
 setup multimaster replication and as a result got temporary tablespace
about
 10 Gb. OEM shows that used only about 1Gb, so others 9Gb are gone. I wanna
 to free them for my purposes.


  Perhaps you could clarify what you mean by
  'it grows up faster and faster'.
 
  What exactly does that mean, what script or tool is
  showing you that, what is its output, and why is
  it a problem?
 
  Restarting the database seems extreme advice for
  such a meager description of a problem.


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Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-17 Thread VirVit
Well, I mean that OS (w2k) file size of temp01.ora grows faster... I've
setup multimaster replication and as a result got temporary tablespace about
10 Gb. OEM shows that used only about 1Gb, so others 9Gb are gone. I wanna
to free them for my purposes.


 Perhaps you could clarify what you mean by
 'it grows up faster and faster'.

 What exactly does that mean, what script or tool is
 showing you that, what is its output, and why is
 it a problem?

 Restarting the database seems extreme advice for
 such a meager description of a problem.


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Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-14 Thread Hemant K Chitale
I have been using this method in all my 8.0 and 8.1 databases.
Unfortunately, if it is a TEMPORARY Tablespace with a TEMPFILE,
[as I have begun using in 9.2] this command fails.
Then, the only option to either resize the TEMPFILE or resize the  TEMPORARY
Segment is to drop and recreate the TEMPORARY Tablespace as
I have outlined in another email.
Hemant

At 03:54 PM 13-11-03 -0800, you wrote:
8.1.6.3
SQL select status,contents,extent_management,allocation_type from
dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name='TEMP';
Extent
STATUSCONTENTS  Management ALLOCATIO
- - -- -
ONLINETEMPORARY DICTIONARY USER
SQL alter tablespace TEMP default storage(pctincrease 0);

Tablespace altered.

SQL

This will force the SMON to wake up and coalesce those segments which
have been
used but not freed. This will work if you are using DICT.Managed temp
tablespaces.
I have been using it regularly with results.
HTH
GovindanK
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Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-14 Thread Jared . Still

End of the day, read to it through fast, what can I say.

I totally blew by the part that said 'TEMPORARY'.

Now that I realize which thread I'm in, going back through
it reveals that the original poster has still not clarified
his original post.

eg. there isn't enough information provided to form any conclusions

Jared








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Jared

Though manual says it, in reality the SMON does not really release the
TEMP segments at periodic intervals. I agree with the fact that if pcti
 0 then SMON is supposed to coalesce. But the frequency with which it
does may not be acceptable when compared to the rate at which the TEMP
segment is getting filled. Hence i suggested this. This is mentioned in
Metalink too.

HTH 
GovindanK

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:24 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Actually, you need to set the PCTINCREASE to a non zero value for
 automatic coalescing to take place.

 It isn't needed in any case. Oracle will do this automatically, if
 needed, when an object extends.

 It's all in the fine concepts manual.

 Jared





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 8.1.6.3
 SQL select status,contents,extent_management,allocation_type from
 dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name='TEMP';

   Extent STATUS  CONTENTS Management ALLOCATIO -
   - -- - ONLINE  TEMPORARY
   DICTIONARY USER

 SQL alter tablespace TEMP default storage(pctincrease 0);

 Tablespace altered.

 SQL

 This will force the SMON to wake up and coalesce those segments which
 have been used but not freed. This will work if you are using
 DICT.Managed temp tablespaces. I have been using it regularly with
   results.

 HTH GovindanK

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  Hello!
 
  How can I clean temporary tablespace? It grows up faster and faster.
 
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RE: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-14 Thread Stephen.Lee

I got the impression that the poster was thinking segments allocated in temp
tablespace must be released, cleaned out, blown away, etc. before something
else can come along and use the space.

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End of the day, read to it through fast, what can I say. 

I totally blew by the part that said 'TEMPORARY'. 

Now that I realize which thread I'm in, going back through 
it reveals that the original poster has still not clarified 
his original post. 

eg. there isn't enough information provided to form any conclusions 

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RE: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-14 Thread Thater, William
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 I got the impression that the poster was thinking segments allocated
 in temp tablespace must be released, cleaned out, blown away, etc.
 before something else can come along and use the space.

i was always under the impression that you didn't need to do anything to the
temp tablespace.  that the segments were just reused as needed.  am i behind
the times here?

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RE: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-14 Thread Stephen.Lee

Ja.  That was my point ... and probably why some people didn't quite
understand the original question (a lot of assumption on my part, but I
think that is what the confusion was about).

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  I got the impression that the poster was thinking segments allocated
  in temp tablespace must be released, cleaned out, blown away, etc.
  before something else can come along and use the space.
 
 i was always under the impression that you didn't need to do 
 anything to the
 temp tablespace.  that the segments were just reused as 
 needed.  am i behind
 the times here?
 
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RE: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-14 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I agree with you Bill.  My temp space is always 80% full.  I ignore it until
I get a report of a sql error.

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 I got the impression that the poster was thinking segments allocated
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 before something else can come along and use the space.

i was always under the impression that you didn't need to do anything to the
temp tablespace.  that the segments were just reused as needed.  am i behind
the times here?

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Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-13 Thread GovindanK
8.1.6.3
SQL select status,contents,extent_management,allocation_type from
dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name='TEMP';

Extent
STATUSCONTENTS  Management ALLOCATIO
- - -- -
ONLINETEMPORARY DICTIONARY USER

SQL alter tablespace TEMP default storage(pctincrease 0);

Tablespace altered.

SQL   

This will force the SMON to wake up and coalesce those segments which
have been
used but not freed. This will work if you are using DICT.Managed temp
tablespaces.
I have been using it regularly with results. 

HTH
GovindanK

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 How can I clean temporary tablespace? It grows up faster and faster.
 
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Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-13 Thread Jared . Still

Actually, you need to set the PCTINCREASE to a non zero value for automatic coalescing to take place.

It isn't needed in any case. Oracle will do this automatically, if needed, when an object extends.

It's all in the fine concepts manual.

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8.1.6.3
SQL select status,contents,extent_management,allocation_type from
dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name='TEMP';

  Extent
STATUS  CONTENTS Management ALLOCATIO
- - -- -
ONLINE  TEMPORARY DICTIONARY USER

SQL alter tablespace TEMP default storage(pctincrease 0);

Tablespace altered.

SQL  

This will force the SMON to wake up and coalesce those segments which
have been
used but not freed. This will work if you are using DICT.Managed temp
tablespaces.
I have been using it regularly with results. 

HTH
GovindanK

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:24:24 -0800, VirVit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 How can I clean temporary tablespace? It grows up faster and faster.
 
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Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-13 Thread GovindanK
Jared

Though manual says it, in reality the SMON does not really release the
TEMP segments at periodic intervals. I agree with the fact that if pcti
 0 then SMON is supposed to coalesce. But the frequency with which it
does may not be acceptable when compared to the rate at which the TEMP
segment is getting filled. Hence i suggested this. This is mentioned in
Metalink too.

HTH 
GovindanK

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:24 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Actually, you need to set the PCTINCREASE to a non zero value for
 automatic coalescing to take place.

 It isn't needed in any case. Oracle will do this automatically, if
 needed, when an object extends.

 It's all in the fine concepts manual.

 Jared





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 8.1.6.3
 SQL select status,contents,extent_management,allocation_type from
 dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name='TEMP';

 Extent STATUSCONTENTS  Management ALLOCATIO -
 - -- - ONLINETEMPORARY
 DICTIONARY USER

 SQL alter tablespace TEMP default storage(pctincrease 0);

 Tablespace altered.

 SQL

 This will force the SMON to wake up and coalesce those segments which
 have been used but not freed. This will work if you are using
 DICT.Managed temp tablespaces. I have been using it regularly with
  results.

 HTH GovindanK

 On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:24:24 -0800, VirVit
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  How can I clean temporary tablespace? It grows up faster and faster.
 
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RE: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-12 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi,

Restartup your database if possible.

If you set the datafile autoextent on then you have to recreate that tablespace, 
if you set it to not autoextent on for some query may fail due to not enough sorting 
space.


Sinardy

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RE: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-12 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Or you can
1. Create another Temporary Tablespace with CREATE TEMPORARY TABLESPACE 
new_temporary_tablespace
TEMPFILE . SIZE ... AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT .. MAXSIZE ...
2.  Issue ALTER USER TEMPORARY TABLESPACE new_temporary_tablespace commands
3.  If running 9.2 with a Default Temporary Tablespace, ALTER DATABASE 
DEFAULT TEMPORARY TABLESPACE new_temporary_tablespace
4.  Check that there are no active sessions still using the existing 
Temporary Tablespace, querying V$SORT_SEGMENT
and also use the Unix fuser command against the Temporary Tablespace 
Tempfiles
5.  DROP TABLESPACE current_temporary_tablespace INCLUDING CONTENTS [add 
AND DATAFILES if using 9.2]
Note : Ensure that you really have no segments in the tablespace other than 
the temporary segment [ie, it is really
a temporary tablespace ! because the DROP TABLESPACE command syntax 
doesn't specify if it is a TEMPORARY
or PERMANENT tablespace]
6.  Recreate your original Temporary Tablespace
7. Run through Steps 2 and 3 again to revert to the original Temporary 
Tablespace
8. Run Steps 4 and 5 to drop the new_temporary_tablespace

Because, bouncing or restarting the Database Instance isn't always an 
available option!

Hemant
At 12:05 AM 12-11-03 -0800, you wrote:
Hi,

Restartup your database if possible.

If you set the datafile autoextent on then you have to recreate that 
tablespace,
if you set it to not autoextent on for some query may fail due to not 
enough sorting space.

Sinardy

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Re: Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-12 Thread Jared Still
Perhaps you could clarify what you mean by
'it grows up faster and faster'.

What exactly does that mean, what script or tool is
showing you that, what is its output, and why is
it a problem?

Restarting the database seems extreme advice for
such a meager description of a problem.

Jared

On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 22:24, VirVit wrote:
 Hello!
 
 How can I clean temporary tablespace? It grows up faster and faster.
 
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Clean temporary tablespace

2003-11-11 Thread VirVit
Hello!

How can I clean temporary tablespace? It grows up faster and faster.

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