Re: Fwd: RE: RAC for download -- re RAC Pricing and Partitioning

2003-09-26 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
They are indeed, and their prices are (in the order you list them) in 
addition to the EE price:

$20K, $20K, $10K, $10K, $10K.

Mogens

Hemant K Chitale wrote:

oops, I forgot to mention Partitioning pricing.
Partitioning is also listed seperately under Enterprise Edition options.
This is 25% of the EE price.
Thus, EE is US$40K per CPU.  RAC is US$60K per CPU [40K + 20K].
Partitioning is US$50K per CPU [40K + 10K]  and RAC with Partitioning 
would be US$70K per CPU !
Data Mining, OLAP, Advanced Security, Spatial and Label Security
are also seperately priced options.

Hemant

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:46:40 +0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Hemant K Chitale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: RAC for download -- re RAC Pricing
Check oraclestore.com.   The default page just shows you the pricing
for the DB  EE, true.
However, when you click on Database under Products in the left panel,
you can see Oracle Enterprise Edition Options listed seperately from
Oracle Database.
RAC is under Enterprise Edition Options while EE is under Database
and the RAC price is 50% of the EE price.
Thus, an RAC price is 150% of an EE price.
Hemant
At 11:44 AM 24-09-03 -0800, you wrote:

My dear friend, you're wrong. That practice has stopped with 8i.
Partitioning option *is* an integral part of 9iEE without an additional
check to sign. I got a verbal confirmation from my oracle sales rep
and I'll try getting a written (email) one as well.
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA


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 I've seen the same kind of confusion with respect to the partitioning
 option, where people have been informed by their sales rep that
 partitioning option is part of EE. Well, yes, if you pay extra for 
it.

 Mogens

 Hemant K Chitale wrote:

 
  If the question is about price [referring to oraclestore], remember
  that RAC
  is an option and is generally at a 50% premium on the EE cost.
 
  However, Mladen is right in that RAC is on the same CDs as the
  Enterprise Edition.
  If your servers are cluster-ready, the OUI automatically
 includes RAC as
  an installation option,  else, RAC does not apear in the Oracle
  product list
  when you run the Installer.
 
  Hemant
 
  At 06:54 AM 24-09-03 -0800, you wrote:
 
  RAC is a part of the EE version, for whichever OS you
 have. You will
  still need
  to purchase the hardware.
 
 
  --
  Mladen Gogala
  Oracle DBA
 
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  Hello all
 
  Where can i get RAC for download? I don't see one in
 OTN. Oracle
  store puts a high tag?
 
  Thanks
 
 
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RE: Fwd: RE: RAC for download -- re RAC Pricing and Partitioning

2003-09-26 Thread Niall Litchfield
One of the reasons I nearly baarfed (sorry) coffee all over my keyboard
when I saw the larryism from Oracle world on IBM's capacity on demand '
yes it is capacity on demand but it costs 45k a processor'
pots,kettles,black the whole thing really. 

Niall 

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 Behalf Of Mogens Nørgaard
 Sent: 26 September 2003 12:05
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: RAC for download -- re RAC Pricing and 
 Partitioning
 
 
 They are indeed, and their prices are (in the order you list them) in 
 addition to the EE price:
 
 $20K, $20K, $10K, $10K, $10K.
 
 Mogens
 
 Hemant K Chitale wrote:
 
 
  oops, I forgot to mention Partitioning pricing.
  Partitioning is also listed seperately under Enterprise Edition 
  options. This is 25% of the EE price.
 
  Thus, EE is US$40K per CPU.  RAC is US$60K per CPU [40K + 20K]. 
  Partitioning is US$50K per CPU [40K + 10K]  and RAC with 
 Partitioning 
  would be US$70K per CPU ! Data Mining, OLAP, Advanced Security, 
  Spatial and Label Security are also seperately priced options.
 
  Hemant
 
  Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:46:40 +0800
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: Hemant K Chitale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: RAC for download -- re RAC Pricing
 
 
  Check oraclestore.com.   The default page just shows you 
 the pricing
  for the DB  EE, true.
  However, when you click on Database under Products in the left 
  panel, you can see Oracle Enterprise Edition Options listed 
  seperately from Oracle Database. RAC is under Enterprise Edition 
  Options while EE is under Database and the RAC price is 
 50% of the EE 
  price.
 
  Thus, an RAC price is 150% of an EE price.
  Hemant
 
  At 11:44 AM 24-09-03 -0800, you wrote:
 
  My dear friend, you're wrong. That practice has stopped with 8i. 
  Partitioning option *is* an integral part of 9iEE without an 
  additional check to sign. I got a verbal confirmation 
 from my oracle 
  sales rep and I'll try getting a written (email) one as well.
 
  --
  Mladen Gogala
  Oracle DBA
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
   Behalf Of Mogens Nørgaard
   Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:30 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: Re: RAC for download
  
  
   I've seen the same kind of confusion with respect to the 
   partitioning option, where people have been informed by their 
   sales rep that partitioning option is part of EE. Well, yes, if 
   you pay extra for
  it.
  
   Mogens
  
   Hemant K Chitale wrote:
  
   
If the question is about price [referring to oraclestore], 
remember that RAC is an option and is generally at a 
 50% premium 
on the EE cost.
   
However, Mladen is right in that RAC is on the same 
 CDs as the 
Enterprise Edition. If your servers are 
 cluster-ready, the OUI 
automatically
   includes RAC as
an installation option,  else, RAC does not apear in 
 the Oracle 
product list when you run the Installer.
   
Hemant
   
At 06:54 AM 24-09-03 -0800, you wrote:
   
RAC is a part of the EE version, for whichever OS you
   have. You will
still need
to purchase the hardware.
   
   
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
   
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:05 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RAC for download
   
Hello all
   
Where can i get RAC for download? I don't see one in
   OTN. Oracle
store puts a high tag?
   
Thanks
   
   
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Fwd: RE: RAC for download -- re RAC Pricing and Partitioning

2003-09-25 Thread Hemant K Chitale
oops, I forgot to mention Partitioning pricing.
Partitioning is also listed seperately under Enterprise Edition options.
This is 25% of the EE price.
Thus, EE is US$40K per CPU.  RAC is US$60K per CPU [40K + 20K].
Partitioning is US$50K per CPU [40K + 10K]  and RAC with Partitioning would 
be US$70K per CPU !
Data Mining, OLAP, Advanced Security, Spatial and Label Security
are also seperately priced options.

Hemant

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:46:40 +0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Hemant K Chitale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: RAC for download -- re RAC Pricing
Check oraclestore.com.   The default page just shows you the pricing
for the DB  EE, true.
However, when you click on Database under Products in the left panel,
you can see Oracle Enterprise Edition Options listed seperately from
Oracle Database.
RAC is under Enterprise Edition Options while EE is under Database
and the RAC price is 50% of the EE price.
Thus, an RAC price is 150% of an EE price.
Hemant
At 11:44 AM 24-09-03 -0800, you wrote:
My dear friend, you're wrong. That practice has stopped with 8i.
Partitioning option *is* an integral part of 9iEE without an additional
check to sign. I got a verbal confirmation from my oracle sales rep
and I'll try getting a written (email) one as well.
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mogens Nørgaard
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:30 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: RAC for download


 I've seen the same kind of confusion with respect to the partitioning
 option, where people have been informed by their sales rep that
 partitioning option is part of EE. Well, yes, if you pay extra for it.

 Mogens

 Hemant K Chitale wrote:

 
  If the question is about price [referring to oraclestore], remember
  that RAC
  is an option and is generally at a 50% premium on the EE cost.
 
  However, Mladen is right in that RAC is on the same CDs as the
  Enterprise Edition.
  If your servers are cluster-ready, the OUI automatically
 includes RAC as
  an installation option,  else, RAC does not apear in the Oracle
  product list
  when you run the Installer.
 
  Hemant
 
  At 06:54 AM 24-09-03 -0800, you wrote:
 
  RAC is a part of the EE version, for whichever OS you
 have. You will
  still need
  to purchase the hardware.
 
 
  --
  Mladen Gogala
  Oracle DBA
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of quriyat
  Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:05 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RAC for download
 
  Hello all
 
  Where can i get RAC for download? I don't see one in
 OTN. Oracle
  store puts a high tag?
 
  Thanks
 
 
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  to be the views of any such entity.
 
 
 
  Hemant K Chitale
  Oracle 9i Database Administrator Certified Professional
  My personal web site is :  http://hkchital.tripod.com
  http://hkchital.tripod.com/
 
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