Re: Job postings was:Re: Lost ofall redo logsOTHER...
JT., Do you have any awareness of www.ORAFAQ.com Oracle-job.net? Thanx, Bill --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill I'm kinda surprised no one has replied. I'm seeing pockets of oracle work in cols most of it is short-term(ie: 3 months). This is the best place to find what I'd consider the brightest people in the oracle world(of course the brightest are also the most expensive) :) joe Bill Christison wrote: Joe T., When we'd recently posted positions to FATCITY you'd replyed;..the economy must be getting better (based on the job(s)posting. Yes,I agree.However,I'd never tried posting to Fcity.I've been placing SAS/Statisticians since 1993 and use SAS-L. *FYI., I didn't obtain any response,other than yours.If you've any thoughts(why)or could suggest another location to post/to make ORACLE people aware of career alternatives,I'd appreciate your insights, Bill Christison --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KG, doesn't anyone think not having a backup is a bad thing. You can go down that route if you wish but as I remember undocumented parameters are best used with the assistance of OWS and not just used at will. joe K Gopalakrishnan wrote: Arun: You are right. The original poster *clearly* said LOST ALL REDO LOGS NO BACKUP. In the above situation, you have to open the databases using the some special tricks and I don't think you need to go back and refer BAckup and Recovery Manuals (You can not find anything for this situation, that is another story) Those parameters will bring up the database if the database is cleanly shudowned (read: Shutdown Normal/Immediate) and you will have to do some more tricks to get the database up if it is crashed (read: shutdown ABORT). I don't think it is a bad advice.. YMMV KG -Original Message- Chakrapanirao Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well one I do want to make clear I have never tried to give bad advice to people. Since the user in his mail had said that he does not have a backup and does not have any online redo logs can you please let me know how else can he open the database, when he said he does not have a back it assumes that he does not have a os backup and also the rman backup. This might be the undocumented thing but this Is the only way it works And this had happened in one our case and the only way we could open the database is to force open the database in a corrupt mode take an export and import back into the new database. If you still think I am trying to give a bad advice well sorry that I am giving bad advices. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:33 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Arun, since WHEN has been using undocumented parameters the normal way of doing things, I think you need to go back and lookup backup/recovery concepts. Feel free to read both user managed and RMAN backup recovery docs/scenarios. You are giving bad advice to people on the list who might be new. joe Arun Chakrapanirao wrote: The only way u can open your database is to add a parameter file as _allow_resetlogs_corruption=TRUE _corrupted_rollback_segments= TRUE _offline_rollback_segments=(the rollback segment names) activate the database and then immediately take an export of the whole database. Create a new database and then import all the data to this new database. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nop, all redo logs gone away... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:43 PM What about mirrored redo group members? Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] === message truncated === = Bill Christison Knowlton Group, LLC 845-258-5129 www.knowltongroup.com __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bill Christison INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like
Job postings was:Re: Lost ofall redo logsOTHER...
Bill I'm kinda surprised no one has replied. I'm seeing pockets of oracle work in cols most of it is short-term(ie: 3 months). This is the best place to find what I'd consider the brightest people in the oracle world(of course the brightest are also the most expensive) :) joe Bill Christison wrote: Joe T., When we'd recently posted positions to FATCITY you'd replyed;..the economy must be getting better (based on the job(s)posting. Yes,I agree.However,I'd never tried posting to Fcity.I've been placing SAS/Statisticians since 1993 and use SAS-L. *FYI., I didn't obtain any response,other than yours.If you've any thoughts(why)or could suggest another location to post/to make ORACLE people aware of career alternatives,I'd appreciate your insights, Bill Christison --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KG, doesn't anyone think not having a backup is a bad thing. You can go down that route if you wish but as I remember undocumented parameters are best used with the assistance of OWS and not just used at will. joe K Gopalakrishnan wrote: Arun: You are right. The original poster *clearly* said LOST ALL REDO LOGS NO BACKUP. In the above situation, you have to open the databases using the some special tricks and I don't think you need to go back and refer BAckup and Recovery Manuals (You can not find anything for this situation, that is another story) Those parameters will bring up the database if the database is cleanly shudowned (read: Shutdown Normal/Immediate) and you will have to do some more tricks to get the database up if it is crashed (read: shutdown ABORT). I don't think it is a bad advice.. YMMV KG -Original Message- Chakrapanirao Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well one I do want to make clear I have never tried to give bad advice to people. Since the user in his mail had said that he does not have a backup and does not have any online redo logs can you please let me know how else can he open the database, when he said he does not have a back it assumes that he does not have a os backup and also the rman backup. This might be the undocumented thing but this Is the only way it works And this had happened in one our case and the only way we could open the database is to force open the database in a corrupt mode take an export and import back into the new database. If you still think I am trying to give a bad advice well sorry that I am giving bad advices. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:33 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Arun, since WHEN has been using undocumented parameters the normal way of doing things, I think you need to go back and lookup backup/recovery concepts. Feel free to read both user managed and RMAN backup recovery docs/scenarios. You are giving bad advice to people on the list who might be new. joe Arun Chakrapanirao wrote: The only way u can open your database is to add a parameter file as _allow_resetlogs_corruption=TRUE _corrupted_rollback_segments= TRUE _offline_rollback_segments=(the rollback segment names) activate the database and then immediately take an export of the whole database. Create a new database and then import all the data to this new database. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nop, all redo logs gone away... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:43 PM What about mirrored redo group members? Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:30 PM Hi people... What to do if I have LOST ALL REDO LOGS and i don4t have any backup? Thanks in advance! : Gilberto Gampert Universidade de Passo Fundo Administrador de Banco de Dados Passo Fundo - RS - Bra5il [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.upf.br : -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gilberto Gampert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
