I have 9iR2 and forms 6i on my pc and its running ok so far.
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Going back to the original question because now I'm really
confused.
I know the feeling.
Everything is looking good in test with Forms 6i, Oracle 8i.
sounds good.
Would like to go to Oracle 9 on the database if possible.
According to OWS, you can run Forms6i (etc.) against database 9.0.x *IN
CLIENT
SERVER MODE*.
What I found out is that Forms6i (etc.) does *not* run against database
9.2.x
(in *any* mode).
If you get the secret instructions (see my TAR from hell posts), you can
actually find the certification info for all the developer 6i components
(Forms6i, plus others) in the dark maze of Metlink's certification matrix
thingy.
I'll try to get all that together in one place and post it (since my
repeated
requests to OWS to do so were apparently futile).
The key is that the server versions mentioned under Application Tier
Certifications are actually the *database* server versions, not the *iAS*
server versions.
(what the hell, I'll cut and paste the secret instructions:
| Go to Metalink --- Certify Availability
| --- View Certification by product
| --- Development Tools
|--- Oracle Forms 6i
| (or others)
| --- Microsoft Windows 2000,
|
| check the combinations for 9.0.x certifications.
)
OAS is not an option at today's prices, so we know Developer 9i
is out.
certainly.
fyi: we get almost all Oracle software free (huge 25 campus site license),
but the cost of setting up an additional server for 9iAS is by itself
(hardware/OS/maintenance/etc.) a major disincentive (given the current
context
of things here).
Apparently Forms 6 latest patch is certified against some Oracle
9s but not the most recent. True?
Yes, as stated above, according to OWS you can run client-server against
database 9.0.x
fyi, according to Metalink lifecycle (or whatever they call it now) the
lifecycle of database 9.0.1, which btw started almost the same day as
database
8.1.7, would extend from FEB-2002 for either 21 or 27 months.
So, the death of databases 9.0.1 and 8.1.7 would be somewhere around
DEC-2003,
possibly as late as MAY-2004 if they are considered terminal releases.
---excerpt from metalink---
(Enterprise database server)
| Desupport Information:
|
| The lifecycle policy for all Oracle Server releases, where
| lifecycle is defined as the length of support by development,
| is 21 months for all non-terminal releases and 27 months for
| all terminal releases. All desupport dates adhere to this policy.
| These dates [***]may move out[***], however, based on business
| need, product interdependencies, etc.
---end---
Note that the above dates are well short of the announced death of Forms6i
(and presumably other developer 6i stuff) which was 2006 (2008 with
extended assistance support, or whatever they call it now).
That obviously makes one wonder how one could continue using Forms 6i in
client-server mode until 2006 or 2008 unless some database version other
than
8.1.7 or 9.0.1 will have client-server support, or unless the desupport
dates
of either DEC-2003 or MAY-2004 are moved out.
Here is the latest word from OWS:
| Q) How long will I be able to run developer
| (forms/reports/etc) 6i products (or their
| replacement products) in client-server mode
| against database 9.0.x, or database 9.x ?
|
| A) Developer 6i products supports Client-Server
| mode. Developer 6i is supported until 2006 and
| extended support is until 2008. Till 2008 all
| developer 6i products which are certified against
| database 9.0.x is supported.
That's it! No *specific* mention of how long the database 9.0.1 will be
supported!
(stay tuned for the final exciting conclusion coming in the next episode of
our show.)
note, just found on metalink:
| Upcoming Oracle Product Desupports
|
| PLEASE NOTE: This file contains details for upcoming Oracle Product
| desupports, with an end of Error Correction Support (ECS) date (13)
months
| ONLY. ((13) months is the minimum notification period for customers, which
| includes the required (12) months notification period plus (1) month of
| Obsolescence processing.) NOTE: The information in this file is subject to
| change without notice and is not considered a formal desupport
announcement
| until the required process and approval is received and a formal desupport
| notice is generated. Customers may also view this file via MetaLink under
| Product Lifecycle == Certifications == 1. View Certifications by
| Product == Desupport Advisories and Notices ==
|
| Upcoming Oracle Product Desupports or by searching for Doc ID: 190435.1.
|
| Product
