RE: most practical 9iR2 features?

2004-01-16 Thread Niall Litchfield
1. that 
Set oracle_sid=blah
Sqlplus user/password

Works on terminal server. 

2. I like the workspace memory management features as well.

3. trace file timings in microseconds. 

4. Cursor_sharing=similar (still has the odd bug). 

5. HTMLDB is marketed for 10g but will install on 9.2 

Niall 

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 Subject: most practical 9iR2 features?
 
 
 Hey listers
 
 I am doing some research and would like to get (in very short 
 answers) features of 9iR2 that folks have implemented that 
 meet the following goals:
 
 1. Ease administration
 2. Are not marketing crap
 3. Are not already in 8.1.7
 4. Increase response time and or perfromance
 
 A quick bullet list would be way cool of stuff that make you 
 puff up and say ...this is so cool
 
 We are going to be moving our MRP system from 8.1.7 to 9iR2 
 this year and I'd like to get a feel for which items can help 
 our old MRP app.
 
 Reply direct if you desire.
 
 We'll be implementing a new box with a SAN and so we already 
 have some plans for actually using some features in 8i that 
 were not feasible on our old AutoRAID. (There's nothing like 
 getting a new box...)
 
 (I am already reading the new features doc and another doc by Howard
 Rogers)
 
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Brad O.
 
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RE: most practical 9iR2 features?

2004-01-15 Thread Goulet, Dick
Brad,

We're primarily using 9i with a third party time accounting system, so I 
haven't had too much time with a lot of 9i, but the resumable transactions are a REAL 
time  energy saver.  The Time accounting system has to do bulk data loads from our HR 
system as well as it's own batch processing.  All things that like to eat up 
tablespace and you can guess that the vendor's estimates (more like Guesstimates) 
were not up to the realities.  But they did set themselves up to use the resumable 
transaction capability and I did manage to get the database internals setup, thank you 
OTS.  Then when these batch jobs were run for real the jobs stopped while I got paged. 
 In the old days the job would have failed leading to a lot of finger pointing, etc... 
 In this case I was able to fix it  it continued without error.  Now that's a 
FEATURE!!! :-)

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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Hey listers

I am doing some research and would like to get (in very short answers)
features of 9iR2 that folks have implemented that meet the following goals:

1. Ease administration
2. Are not marketing crap
3. Are not already in 8.1.7
4. Increase response time and or perfromance

A quick bullet list would be way cool of stuff that make you puff up and say
...this is so cool

We are going to be moving our MRP system from 8.1.7 to 9iR2 this year and
I'd like to get a feel for which items can help our old MRP app.

Reply direct if you desire.

We'll be implementing a new box with a SAN and so we already have some plans
for actually using some features in 8i that were not feasible on our old
AutoRAID. (There's nothing like getting a new box...)

(I am already reading the new features doc and another doc by Howard
Rogers)


Thanks in advance

Brad O.

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Re: most practical 9iR2 features?

2004-01-15 Thread Stephen Andert
Brad, 

- External Tables have the potential to be WOW and when properly used
instead of SQLLDR can meet #1  4.
- Resumable transactions

Stephen

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Hey listers

I am doing some research and would like to get (in very short answers)
features of 9iR2 that folks have implemented that meet the following
goals:

1. Ease administration
2. Are not marketing crap
3. Are not already in 8.1.7
4. Increase response time and or perfromance

A quick bullet list would be way cool of stuff that make you puff up
and say
...this is so cool

We are going to be moving our MRP system from 8.1.7 to 9iR2 this year
and
I'd like to get a feel for which items can help our old MRP app.

Reply direct if you desire.

We'll be implementing a new box with a SAN and so we already have some
plans
for actually using some features in 8i that were not feasible on our
old
AutoRAID. (There's nothing like getting a new box...)

(I am already reading the new features doc and another doc by Howard
Rogers)


Thanks in advance

Brad O.

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RE: most practical 9iR2 features?

2004-01-15 Thread Michael Fontana
This is a good question.  We've been running 9i instances for 18+ months
now.  Here are my impressions:

I would say RESUMABLE, especially for bulk loads, export/import,
sqlloader is #1.  This has saved HOURS!!!

Dynamically modifiable SGA parameters have helped us with reliability.
Less need to ever bounce!

We're now letting the database name datafiles for new partitions, which,
for archivable tables, makes it easier to drop partitions and datafiles
and more easily reclaim space in an automated fashion.

The new RMAN features, overall, make the product finally usable in our
eyes.  It still needs improvement, though...

Undo tablespaces have significantly cut down on rollback and snapshot
too old errors.  But it's not perfect...

Automated workarea size policy is much better than manually calculating
PGA variables such as sort_area_size, etc...

We haven't used much flashback or query rewrite features yet.  At least
not directly (some vendor code may use them).

I am sure interested in seeing what others have to say.

Michael Fontana
Sr. DBA
NTT/Verio



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Odland, Brad
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Hey listers

I am doing some research and would like to get (in very short answers)
features of 9iR2 that folks have implemented that meet the following
goals:

1. Ease administration
2. Are not marketing crap
3. Are not already in 8.1.7
4. Increase response time and or perfromance

A quick bullet list would be way cool of stuff that make you puff up and
say ...this is so cool

We are going to be moving our MRP system from 8.1.7 to 9iR2 this year
and I'd like to get a feel for which items can help our old MRP app.

Reply direct if you desire.

We'll be implementing a new box with a SAN and so we already have some
plans for actually using some features in 8i that were not feasible on
our old AutoRAID. (There's nothing like getting a new box...)

(I am already reading the new features doc and another doc by Howard
Rogers)


Thanks in advance

Brad O.

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