RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Alter tablespace is a better option wherby you can do it while database is 
up and only that particular tablespace is offline. OEM does the same thing. 
You can use it for any tablespace except SYSTEM tablespace which you cannot 
put offline.

For 'Alter database' you need down time as database cannot be open and it is 
to be used to change any SYSTEM tbs datafile.

Both does the samething with different situations.

Regards
Rafiq

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Raj,

That looks like it works also.  Many ways to skin a cat.  I personally have
gotten used to using OEM and letting it issue the command.

I think they both would work.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Tom,
if he is going to have the tablespace off line with
database up and running , shouldn't the command be
alter tablespace rename file '< >' to '< >' ;

Cheers,
RS
--- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
 > Hamid,
 >
 > .dbf is prefectly valid on all machines, as far as I
 > know.
 >
 > You can rename it - look at the ALTER DATABASE
 > RENAME FILE 'filename' to
 > 'newfilename' clause to rename the data file.  You
 > will need to take the
 > tablespace offline to do this.
 >
 > Hope this helps
 >
 > Tom Mercadante
 > Oracle Certified Professional
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:39 AM
 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 >
 >
 > I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace
 > with the name of .dbf only
 > is ithis a valid name?, is there any way to rename
 > it without shutdown the
 > database,if yes HOW?
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 >
 >
 > Hamid Alavi
 > Office 818 737-0526
 > Cell818 402-1987
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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Create another temp1 tablespace not big. point your user temp tablespace to 
temp1. Offline your temp tablespace and do whatever you want. Once done 
point back the original temp tbs and drop temp1 tbs.
No system down time.
Regards
Rafiq


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Just don't know can i make off line TEPM tablespace or not? alot of users
using it ...

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Tom,
if he is going to have the tablespace off line with
database up and running , shouldn't the command be
alter tablespace rename file '< >' to '< >' ;

Cheers,
RS
--- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
 > Hamid,
 >
 > .dbf is prefectly valid on all machines, as far as I
 > know.
 >
 > You can rename it - look at the ALTER DATABASE
 > RENAME FILE 'filename' to
 > 'newfilename' clause to rename the data file.  You
 > will need to take the
 > tablespace offline to do this.
 >
 > Hope this helps
 >
 > Tom Mercadante
 > Oracle Certified Professional
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:39 AM
 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 >
 >
 > I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace
 > with the name of .dbf only
 > is ithis a valid name?, is there any way to rename
 > it without shutdown the
 > database,if yes HOW?
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 >
 >
 > Hamid Alavi
 > Office 818 737-0526
 > Cell818 402-1987
 >
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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Sakthi , Raj


> That looks like it works also.  Many ways to skin a
> cat.  

true..!! Thanks for not taking this the wrong way..:)

Cheers,
RS

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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Hamid Alavi

Just don't know can i make off line TEPM tablespace or not? alot of users
using it ...

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:44 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Tom,
if he is going to have the tablespace off line with
database up and running , shouldn't the command be
alter tablespace rename file '< >' to '< >' ;

Cheers,
RS
--- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hamid,
> 
> .dbf is prefectly valid on all machines, as far as I
> know.
> 
> You can rename it - look at the ALTER DATABASE
> RENAME FILE 'filename' to
> 'newfilename' clause to rename the data file.  You
> will need to take the
> tablespace offline to do this.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:39 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace
> with the name of .dbf only
> is ithis a valid name?, is there any way to rename
> it without shutdown the
> database,if yes HOW?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Hamid Alavi
> Office 818 737-0526
> Cell818 402-1987
> 
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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Raj,

That looks like it works also.  Many ways to skin a cat.  I personally have
gotten used to using OEM and letting it issue the command.

I think they both would work.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:44 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Tom,
if he is going to have the tablespace off line with
database up and running , shouldn't the command be
alter tablespace rename file '< >' to '< >' ;

Cheers,
RS
--- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hamid,
> 
> .dbf is prefectly valid on all machines, as far as I
> know.
> 
> You can rename it - look at the ALTER DATABASE
> RENAME FILE 'filename' to
> 'newfilename' clause to rename the data file.  You
> will need to take the
> tablespace offline to do this.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:39 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace
> with the name of .dbf only
> is ithis a valid name?, is there any way to rename
> it without shutdown the
> database,if yes HOW?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Hamid Alavi
> Office 818 737-0526
> Cell818 402-1987
> 
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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Sakthi , Raj

Tom,
if he is going to have the tablespace off line with
database up and running , shouldn't the command be
alter tablespace rename file '< >' to '< >' ;

Cheers,
RS
--- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hamid,
> 
> .dbf is prefectly valid on all machines, as far as I
> know.
> 
> You can rename it - look at the ALTER DATABASE
> RENAME FILE 'filename' to
> 'newfilename' clause to rename the data file.  You
> will need to take the
> tablespace offline to do this.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:39 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace
> with the name of .dbf only
> is ithis a valid name?, is there any way to rename
> it without shutdown the
> database,if yes HOW?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Hamid Alavi
> Office 818 737-0526
> Cell818 402-1987
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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

In fact, here with Oracle 7.3 we had .dbf for data files, .ora for init.ora
file and other config files, and .trc for trace files, .log for log files,
etc.

With the GUI tools introduced with Oracle 8, the extensions were different
-- .ora for everything it seems to me, but I still prefer the different
extensions for the different file types.

Just my conservative opinion.

Maybe .dbf brings back memories of dBase III+ ?

: )

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Subject:        RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

.dbf is perfectly OK

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I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace with the name of .dbf only
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database,if yes HOW?

Thanks



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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Scott . Shafer

Drop and recreate your temp tablespace.

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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Reddy, Madhusudana

.dbf is perfectly OK

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I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace with the name of .dbf only
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RE: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Hamid,

.dbf is prefectly valid on all machines, as far as I know.

You can rename it - look at the ALTER DATABASE RENAME FILE 'filename' to
'newfilename' clause to rename the data file.  You will need to take the
tablespace offline to do this.

Hope this helps

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Re: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread Steven Lembark



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> I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace with the name of .dbf
> only is ithis a valid name?, is there any way to rename it without
> shutdown the database,if yes HOW?

You can "ln .dbf name_you_wanted" any time you like. Unlink
the ".dbf" basename whenever you're done with it.

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Re: .dbf is a valid name for a datafile name?

2002-03-26 Thread bill thater

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> I have added a datafile to a the temp tablespace with the name of .dbf only
> is ithis a valid name?, is there any way to rename it without shutdown the
> database,if yes HOW?


it depends on your OS.  and how you'd rename depends on that too.



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