Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d
I concur. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:44 PM Excellent slide show Tanel! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 3:34 PM dc_histogram_defs) Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new features. Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my presentations from: http://integrid.info/Poder_10g_New_Features.ppt Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d
Yes .. that is good. GovindanK On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:44:34 -0800, Freeman Robert - IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Excellent slide show Tanel! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 3:34 PM dc_histogram_defs) Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new features. Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my presentations from: http://integrid.info/Poder_10g_New_Features.ppt Tanel. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: GovindanK INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d
Excellent slide show Tanel! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 3:34 PM dc_histogram_defs) Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new features. Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my presentations from: http://integrid.info/Poder_10g_New_Features.ppt Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d
Tanel, Whthough they may not have the sqlplusw.exe for windoes is the sqlplus.exe still there? Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L d Excellent slide show Tanel! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 3:34 PM dc_histogram_defs) Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new features. Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my presentations from: http://integrid.info/Poder_10g_New_Features.ppt Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d
Doesn't matter if there's 30 or 300, you don't usually mess with them other than at database create time. Shh Oracle thinks this is a marketing coup They want to make the database look easy to manage... Parameters? Ha, you only need configure a few basic parameters and the database will take care of itself. WHEN PIGS FLY This just speaks to the general management desire to push costs down stream Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 5:24 PM dc_histogram_defs) Much seems to be made of this 'less than 30 init parameter to tune'. Who really spends much time doing that anyway? If you do, you're probably going after the wrong end of a problem. Doesn't matter if there's 30 or 300, you don't usually mess with them other than at database create time. Jared Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2003 01:34 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and dc_histogram_defs) Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new features. Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my presentations from: http://integrid.info/Poder_10g_New_Features.ppt Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d
Robert, Robert, Robert, when will you ever learn? You've been listening to the marketing people again. :) The whole goal behind this part of the release is not to make the database look easy to manage (which is good because I've never thought it WAS difficult to manage!) It's for those lower end customers who may not have the requirement for a full-time DBA. The idea is to set as few parameters as needed by having sensible defaults (whether they ARE sensible or not is a separate argument), while still having the full power and flexibility of all the other parameters for those lucky DBA's who have more complex systems to manage. Make more sense? I can see I'm gonna have to keep a VERY close eye on you if we ever get around to writing our 10g book! :) Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original Message- Freeman Robert - IL Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L d Doesn't matter if there's 30 or 300, you don't usually mess with them other than at database create time. Shh Oracle thinks this is a marketing coup They want to make the database look easy to manage... Parameters? Ha, you only need configure a few basic parameters and the database will take care of itself. WHEN PIGS FLY This just speaks to the general management desire to push costs down stream Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 5:24 PM dc_histogram_defs) Much seems to be made of this 'less than 30 init parameter to tune'. Who really spends much time doing that anyway? If you do, you're probably going after the wrong end of a problem. Doesn't matter if there's 30 or 300, you don't usually mess with them other than at database create time. Jared Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2003 01:34 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and dc_histogram_defs) Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new features. Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my presentations from: http://integrid.info/Poder_10g_New_Features.ppt Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pete Sharman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d
Yep, sqlplus.exe will still be there. Otherwise one wouln't be able to run any automated sql scripts, because isqlplus can't do it as far as I understand. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:04 AM Tanel, Whthough they may not have the sqlplusw.exe for windoes is the sqlplus.exe still there? Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L d Excellent slide show Tanel! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 3:34 PM dc_histogram_defs) Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new features. Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my presentations from: http://integrid.info/Poder_10g_New_Features.ppt Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
