RE: Anyone used EMC Timefinder to replicate DB's

2003-12-01 Thread Goulet, Dick



YES. Do you have specific questions???

Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i 
DBA 

  -Original Message-From: Loughmiller, Greg 
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  ORACLE-LSubject: Anyone used EMC Timefinder to replicate 
  DB's
  hey guys 
  -
  
  Working on some 
  replication efforts.. And I haven't used EMC Timefinder to push data from one 
  DB to another.. Are there any documents with the details available? I'm 
  working on getting thru the EMC web site as well as metalink, but wanted to 
  throw this out on the list since everyone is so helpful:-)
  
  And I'm also in 
  too much of a hurry to RTFM:-) since I need to get something done by 
  Wednesday..
  
  
  Thanks in 
  advance!
  Greg 
  Loughmiller Sr 
  Manager - Enterprise Data Architecture gloughmiller (IPS) 
  678.893.3217 
  (office) 
  


RE: Anyone used EMC Timefinder to replicate DB's

2003-12-01 Thread Spears, Brian



Its 
simply a hotbackup snapshot... so just lookup the cloning proceedure from 
Hotbackup and you are done.

Brian 
Spears

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Loughmiller, GregSent: 
  Monday, December 01, 2003 1:54 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Anyone used EMC Timefinder to replicate 
  DB's
  hey guys 
  -
  
  Working on some 
  replication efforts.. And I haven't used EMC Timefinder to push data from one 
  DB to another.. Are there any documents with the details available? I'm 
  working on getting thru the EMC web site as well as metalink, but wanted to 
  throw this out on the list since everyone is so helpful:-)
  
  And I'm also in 
  too much of a hurry to RTFM:-) since I need to get something done by 
  Wednesday..
  
  
  Thanks in 
  advance!
  Greg 
  Loughmiller Sr 
  Manager - Enterprise Data Architecture gloughmiller (IPS) 
  678.893.3217 
  (office) 
  


Re: Anyone used EMC Timefinder to replicate DB's

2003-12-01 Thread Matthew Zito

 hey guys -

 Working on some replication efforts.. And I haven't used EMC Timefinder
 to push data from one DB to another.. Are there any documents with the
 details available? I'm working on getting thru the EMC web site as well
 as metalink, but wanted to throw this out on the list since everyone is
 so helpful:-)

 And I'm also in too much of a hurry to RTFM:-) since I need to get
 something done by Wednesday..


 Thanks in advance!
 Greg Loughmiller
 Sr Manager - Enterprise Data Architecture
 gloughmiller (IPS)
 678.893.3217 (office)


Aside from the excellent notes on the Oracle piece of it, there are some
EMC-side things to remember:

-remember that whatever host you want to perform the BCV split/establish
actions from needs to be able to see gatekeepers.

-The normal methodology is to create BCV groups based on functional
purpose if you're not using software RAID and if you're using software
RAID, make sure you match the BCV groups to the software RAID groups.

-If you're using Veritas or some other software volume manager, make
absolutely sure that the BCVs are not exposed to the same host as the STD
(source) volumes.

-Also, if you're using a software RAID layer atop the EMC devices (i.e.
RAID-0 across EMC RAID-1 volumes), make sure you use instant splits rather
than traditional splits.  With traditional splits, the EMC volumes within
the BCV group are separated like a zipper, which can create corruption in
software RAID sets - instant splits quiesce all the volumes within the
group and then split them at once.

-From a performance standpoint, while you leave the BCVs in ESTABLISHED
state, the Symmetrix will use them as a third mirror for valid I/Os. 
Depending on the revision of microcode, I seem to recall that the BCV will
be used for reads for all remaining valid tracks.

-Incremental establishes are much slower than full establishes - depending
on the rate of changed data, it could actually be faster to do a full
establish than an incremental.  You probably want to time establishes both
ways.

-Is this on a Sun server?  If it is, make sure you never do a reconfigure
reboot (touch /reconfigure or reboot -- -r or boot -r) while the BCVs are
established.  If its a Linux box, you'll need to manually reprobe the SCSI
devices if you reboot during an established state.  I don't know what to
do on windows or any of the other UNIXes, but remember that established
BCVs vanish from the SCSI channel, so avoid situations where the host is
rescanning or reconfiguring while they're established.

Feel free to email me off-list if you have any other questions on any of
this or if you run into any problems.

Thanks,
Matt

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