RE: Beginning of a global unravelling?
Bambi, I'm afraid I read something different in that story, but equally pleasant. Like a lot of things in this world sometimes we need to push the press-to-test button and see how the shoe fits before making up our minds. Companies I believe needed to do the same thing with offshoring their IT activity. I've no doubt that a fair amount of application development will remain offshore just like manufacturing jobs are, but that support and infrastructure jobs that have been previously offshored will come back. I'll put it this way, I support a remote site right now that's 3000 miles away. When the crap hits the fan it can easily take 3 times as long to fix as it does when your right there. It was also the reason I recently spent 2 weeks on the road namely down range at that site. Now if all you want to do is monitor the site from India, sure you can do that. But until they invent a way for me to instantiounsly physically access the tape library or cdrom out there from her! e it ain't happening. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Friends -- Looks like Dell is moving call centers from India to Texas and Tennessee. Seems that the folks in India, while very polite, have thick accents. Um. Thick, non-Texan, accents. Anyway, this may bode well for us technical folks if this [and the previously discussed article] are the beginning of a bring the tech jobs back trend. This may imply that we are [temporarily] moving away from a globalized technical labor force (and therefore global wage equilibrium). Of course, it could mean nothing beyond what it says. Time will tell. In the meantime, here's the link. Enjoy! Bambi. http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/11/24/dell.call.centers.ap/index.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Beginning of a global unravelling?
i heard it was just the corporate call centers coming back? not the private call centers? dell tech support isnt any good no matter where it is. its just an entry level position. The guys who get good move up or on to other things. gateway is bad too. From: Bellow, Bambi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/11/25 Tue PM 12:49:31 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Beginning of a global unravelling? Friends -- Looks like Dell is moving call centers from India to Texas and Tennessee. Seems that the folks in India, while very polite, have thick accents. Um. Thick, non-Texan, accents. Anyway, this may bode well for us technical folks if this [and the previously discussed article] are the beginning of a bring the tech jobs back trend. This may imply that we are [temporarily] moving away from a globalized technical labor force (and therefore global wage equilibrium). Of course, it could mean nothing beyond what it says. Time will tell. In the meantime, here's the link. Enjoy! Bambi. http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/11/24/dell.call.centers.ap/index.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Beginning of a global unravelling?
Does that mean that we will not have to replace ourselves with the cheap labor from Elbonia? On 11/25/2003 12:49:31 PM, Bellow, Bambi wrote: Friends -- Looks like Dell is moving call centers from India to Texas and Tennessee. Seems that the folks in India, while very polite, have thick accents. Um. Thick, non-Texan, accents. Anyway, this may bode well for us technical folks if this [and the previously discussed article] are the beginning of a bring the tech jobs back trend. This may imply that we are [temporarily] moving away from a globalized technical labor force (and therefore global wage equilibrium). Of course, it could mean nothing beyond what it says. Time will tell. In the meantime, here's the link. Enjoy! Bambi. http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/11/24/dell.call.centers.ap/index.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Beginning of a global unravelling?
if you work for a PHB, then yes. We will miss you Mladen ... Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Does that mean that we will not have to replace ourselves with the cheap labor from Elbonia? ** This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you. **5 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jamadagni, Rajendra INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
