RE: Best way to drop and recreate and instance?

2002-04-24 Thread Stephane Faroult

Something to do with SYS.DUC$? Have you tried to delete all objects first (ie tables 
(with CASCADE CONSTRAINTS), views, types, packages, sequences, functions, procedures 
and synonyms - indexes, triggers and package bodies will go anyway) then to DROP USER 
without CASCADE ? Otherwise if your dictionary is beeped recreating the database is 
indeed probably the best you have to do. Would do it fairly easily under Unix (remove 
all files, and run CREATE DATABASE from scratch, catalog and all), I don't see any 
reason why it should be any different under Windows. You can probably even use OUI to 
recreate your database (sigh).

- Original Message -
From: Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 03:53:19

Hi All,

I have *finally* got time to drop one of our test
instances and recreate it
(tomorrow), and wanted some feedback from all of
you as to the best way to
go around this?

The current instance is 8.1.7. on a Win2K machine..
The reason that I'm
dropping/recreating (some of you may remember this)
is because I simply
*CANNOT* drop a user:

salesconnect sys/sys@sales
Connected.
salesselect username, password
  2 from dba_users
  3where username = 'SCOTT';

USERNAME   PASSWORD
--
--
SCOTT  F894844C34402B67

salesdrop user scott cascade;
drop user scott cascade
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

LOL!

If anybody has seen this since I last asked the
list, and has a solution,
please speak up now as this will save me the time
of dropping/recreating the
instance..

Moving on - what would you consider the best
approach to dropping and
recreating an instance on a Win32 platform? In the
past (as these are purely
test instances) I have simply blasted the whole
directories (Oracle and
all), then deleted any mention of Oracle within
the registry (after taking
a backup of course), and moved on to a completely
fresh install (usually to
go to a higher version). This time though, I would
like to keep 8.1.7
installed on this box, and would prefer to keep
Oracle installed, and simply
drop and recreate a fresh (empty) instance..

How would you go about doing this?

Advanced thanks.

Mark

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RE: Best way to drop and recreate and instance?

2002-04-24 Thread Mark Leith

Never mind all - I cheated and used the Database Configuration Assistant
to drop and create a new one.. ;P

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi All,

I have *finally* got time to drop one of our test instances and recreate it
(tomorrow), and wanted some feedback from all of you as to the best way to
go around this?

The current instance is 8.1.7. on a Win2K machine.. The reason that I'm
dropping/recreating (some of you may remember this) is because I simply
*CANNOT* drop a user:

salesconnect sys/sys@sales
Connected.
salesselect username, password
  2 from dba_users
  3where username = 'SCOTT';

USERNAME   PASSWORD
-- --
SCOTT  F894844C34402B67

salesdrop user scott cascade;
drop user scott cascade
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

LOL!

If anybody has seen this since I last asked the list, and has a solution,
please speak up now as this will save me the time of dropping/recreating the
instance..

Moving on - what would you consider the best approach to dropping and
recreating an instance on a Win32 platform? In the past (as these are purely
test instances) I have simply blasted the whole directories (Oracle and
all), then deleted any mention of Oracle within the registry (after taking
a backup of course), and moved on to a completely fresh install (usually to
go to a higher version). This time though, I would like to keep 8.1.7
installed on this box, and would prefer to keep Oracle installed, and simply
drop and recreate a fresh (empty) instance..

How would you go about doing this?

Advanced thanks.

Mark

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RE: Best way to drop and recreate and instance?

2002-04-24 Thread Mark Leith

Hi Witold,

Thanks for the reply..

I had already dropped all of scott's objects (although this does actually
occur with *any* user that I tried it against), then connected as SYS as
shown below, and still got the same error. I also re-ran catalog.sql and
catproc.sql..

There were no other objects within the database relating to any
created/owned by scott..

I've now dropped the instance and re-created it ;P Being a sales critter
doesn't give me the time I would prefer to get my hands dirty with a real
DBA type job..

Thanks for the help anyway

Mark

-Original Message-
Sent: 24 April 2002 13:02
To: Mark Leith


Hi

I don't remember what others recommended and don't know what you
have tried so far but if I had similar problem I would check dba_objects
to see which objects the SCOTT owns. Maybe it will give you a clue.

If it didn't help, I would connect as SCOTT and droped his objects.
Then I would connect as system and dropped SCOTT.
There probably may be many reasons but one I can think of is that
there is an object/synonym/grant problem.

It should take less time than recreating your Oracle instance. Plus it
may be opportunity to learn something.

If you decide to try and find the problem I would like to know. I don't
know the details, and am not a DBA but have done some dba'ing and
have seen few problems when a user owned an object and there was a
public synonym, with the same name, pointing to non-existing object.

HTH

Witold


On 24 Apr 2002 at 3:53, Mark Leith wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have *finally* got time to drop one of our test instances and
 recreate it (tomorrow), and wanted some feedback from all of you as to
 the best way to go around this?

 The current instance is 8.1.7. on a Win2K machine.. The reason that
 I'm dropping/recreating (some of you may remember this) is because I
 simply *CANNOT* drop a user:

 salesconnect sys/sys@sales
 Connected.
 salesselect username, password
   2 from dba_users
   3where username = 'SCOTT';

 USERNAME   PASSWORD
 -- --
 SCOTT  F894844C34402B67

 salesdrop user scott cascade;
 drop user scott cascade
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
 ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

 LOL!

 If anybody has seen this since I last asked the list, and has a
 solution, please speak up now as this will save me the time of
 dropping/recreating the instance..

 Moving on - what would you consider the best approach to dropping and
 recreating an instance on a Win32 platform? In the past (as these are
 purely test instances) I have simply blasted the whole directories
 (Oracle and all), then deleted any mention of Oracle within the
 registry (after taking a backup of course), and moved on to a
 completely fresh install (usually to go to a higher version). This
 time though, I would like to keep 8.1.7 installed on this box, and
 would prefer to keep Oracle installed, and simply drop and recreate a
 fresh (empty) instance..

 How would you go about doing this?

 Advanced thanks.

 Mark

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RE: Best way to drop and recreate and instance?

2002-04-24 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Mark,

to remove an instance on NT (not the software, just the instance) do the
following:

Use ORADIM -sid {sid} -delete  to remove the NT services for the instance.

then, simply remove all file structures for the database.

That's all there is to it.  The database is gone.

On a side note - I have seen this type of error before, and it had to do
with Java not being installed correctly (within the database).  I
re-installed Java (using initjvm.sql under the ORACLE_HOME/Javavm/install
directory and the error went away.  This might not have any effect on your
problem.  The Java reinstall takes about 20 minutes.

It's actually quicker to kill he instance and start again!  :)

Hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 7:53 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi All,

I have *finally* got time to drop one of our test instances and recreate it
(tomorrow), and wanted some feedback from all of you as to the best way to
go around this?

The current instance is 8.1.7. on a Win2K machine.. The reason that I'm
dropping/recreating (some of you may remember this) is because I simply
*CANNOT* drop a user:

salesconnect sys/sys@sales
Connected.
salesselect username, password
  2 from dba_users
  3where username = 'SCOTT';

USERNAME   PASSWORD
-- --
SCOTT  F894844C34402B67

salesdrop user scott cascade;
drop user scott cascade
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

LOL!

If anybody has seen this since I last asked the list, and has a solution,
please speak up now as this will save me the time of dropping/recreating the
instance..

Moving on - what would you consider the best approach to dropping and
recreating an instance on a Win32 platform? In the past (as these are purely
test instances) I have simply blasted the whole directories (Oracle and
all), then deleted any mention of Oracle within the registry (after taking
a backup of course), and moved on to a completely fresh install (usually to
go to a higher version). This time though, I would like to keep 8.1.7
installed on this box, and would prefer to keep Oracle installed, and simply
drop and recreate a fresh (empty) instance..

How would you go about doing this?

Advanced thanks.

Mark

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Re: Best way to drop and recreate and instance?

2002-04-24 Thread Connor McDonald

The db config assistanct has a 'delete db' option that
works quite well.  even if it cannot connect to the
db, it will still get rid of the registry and services
bits for the db

hth
connor

 --- Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi
All,
 
 I have *finally* got time to drop one of our test
 instances and recreate it
 (tomorrow), and wanted some feedback from all of you
 as to the best way to
 go around this?
 
 The current instance is 8.1.7. on a Win2K machine..
 The reason that I'm
 dropping/recreating (some of you may remember this)
 is because I simply
 *CANNOT* drop a user:
 
 salesconnect sys/sys@sales
 Connected.
 salesselect username, password
   2 from dba_users
   3where username = 'SCOTT';
 
 USERNAME   PASSWORD
 --
 --
 SCOTT  F894844C34402B67
 
 salesdrop user scott cascade;
 drop user scott cascade
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
 ORA-00942: table or view does not exist
 
 LOL!
 
 If anybody has seen this since I last asked the
 list, and has a solution,
 please speak up now as this will save me the time of
 dropping/recreating the
 instance..
 
 Moving on - what would you consider the best
 approach to dropping and
 recreating an instance on a Win32 platform? In the
 past (as these are purely
 test instances) I have simply blasted the whole
 directories (Oracle and
 all), then deleted any mention of Oracle within
 the registry (after taking
 a backup of course), and moved on to a completely
 fresh install (usually to
 go to a higher version). This time though, I would
 like to keep 8.1.7
 installed on this box, and would prefer to keep
 Oracle installed, and simply
 drop and recreate a fresh (empty) instance..
 
 How would you go about doing this?
 
 Advanced thanks.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Best way to drop and recreate and instance?

2002-04-24 Thread Igor Neyman

Mark,

Shame on you.  Ignoring good old ORADIM?

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:03 AM


 Never mind all - I cheated and used the Database Configuration
Assistant
 to drop and create a new one.. ;P

 -Original Message-
 Sent: 24 April 2002 12:53
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Hi All,

 I have *finally* got time to drop one of our test instances and recreate
it
 (tomorrow), and wanted some feedback from all of you as to the best way to
 go around this?

 The current instance is 8.1.7. on a Win2K machine.. The reason that I'm
 dropping/recreating (some of you may remember this) is because I simply
 *CANNOT* drop a user:

 salesconnect sys/sys@sales
 Connected.
 salesselect username, password
   2 from dba_users
   3where username = 'SCOTT';

 USERNAME   PASSWORD
 -- --
 SCOTT  F894844C34402B67

 salesdrop user scott cascade;
 drop user scott cascade
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
 ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

 LOL!

 If anybody has seen this since I last asked the list, and has a solution,
 please speak up now as this will save me the time of dropping/recreating
the
 instance..

 Moving on - what would you consider the best approach to dropping and
 recreating an instance on a Win32 platform? In the past (as these are
purely
 test instances) I have simply blasted the whole directories (Oracle and
 all), then deleted any mention of Oracle within the registry (after
taking
 a backup of course), and moved on to a completely fresh install (usually
to
 go to a higher version). This time though, I would like to keep 8.1.7
 installed on this box, and would prefer to keep Oracle installed, and
simply
 drop and recreate a fresh (empty) instance..

 How would you go about doing this?

 Advanced thanks.

 Mark

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RE: Best way to drop and recreate and instance?

2002-04-24 Thread Mandar Shete

Hi Mark,

Regarding your problem with dropping a user, I've seen something like that
before - this was 817 on Solaris, and the DBA there was getting a ORA-00942
at recursive SQL when trying any CTAS.

I ran a trace on the statement and found that Oracle was looking for a
sys.snap$ table which didn't exist (don't remember the name now). I also
found that this database didn't have a single sys.snap$ table while another
one on the same release had about 7-8. Later heard from the DBA that they
weren't able to get replication working on the database either. Luckily for
him, this was a test instance and hence not a serious issue.but I still
never found out why those tables were missing.

I had suggesting recreating the tables from sql.bsq (figured the db was
knackered anyway, might as well try it), but I don't think he ever got
around to doing it.

I'd be very interested to know if a trace reveals anything to you...

Hope this helps a bit..

Mandar.

-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Never mind all - I cheated and used the Database Configuration Assistant
to drop and create a new one.. ;P

-Original Message-
Sent: 24 April 2002 12:53
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi All,

I have *finally* got time to drop one of our test instances and recreate it
(tomorrow), and wanted some feedback from all of you as to the best way to
go around this?

The current instance is 8.1.7. on a Win2K machine.. The reason that I'm
dropping/recreating (some of you may remember this) is because I simply
*CANNOT* drop a user:

salesconnect sys/sys@sales
Connected.
salesselect username, password
  2 from dba_users
  3where username = 'SCOTT';

USERNAME   PASSWORD
-- --
SCOTT  F894844C34402B67

salesdrop user scott cascade;
drop user scott cascade
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

LOL!

If anybody has seen this since I last asked the list, and has a solution,
please speak up now as this will save me the time of dropping/recreating the
instance..

Moving on - what would you consider the best approach to dropping and
recreating an instance on a Win32 platform? In the past (as these are purely
test instances) I have simply blasted the whole directories (Oracle and
all), then deleted any mention of Oracle within the registry (after taking
a backup of course), and moved on to a completely fresh install (usually to
go to a higher version). This time though, I would like to keep 8.1.7
installed on this box, and would prefer to keep Oracle installed, and simply
drop and recreate a fresh (empty) instance..

How would you go about doing this?

Advanced thanks.

Mark

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