RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-29 Thread Guy Hammond

We wuvs you Mladen, you ickle fwuffy bunny... :0)

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Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Jared Still


Please reread my previous post.

Jared

On Monday 27 August 2001 22:00, Jenkins, Michael wrote:
 Sorry, I was just observing our fine country's fair use laws.  If I pay
 for a CD then I should be allowed to back it up just in case the disc
 becomes unusable.  Please don't use the information I've provided if you
 intend to pirate CDs.  After all Thomas Jefferson would be very happy to
 know that we are reverting back to his original concept of copyright law
 which only entitled exclusive ownership of your works for a limited time -
 - after that it went into the public domain!

 --Michael

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 Please, let's not distribute copyright infringement
 schemes via this list.

 Opinions on fairness of the law, etc., are really
 not important here either.

 Jared

 On Monday 27 August 2001 08:46, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
  Actually, I have the crack to AOE, you want it?
 
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  Tom
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
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  Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM
  burner. I
  couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
  Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
  games just hung
  when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's
  or am I
  doing something wrong?
 
  Tom
 
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Terrian, Tom

Jared, In the US and Canada it is not illegal to make archival backups of your
software.  It is not copyright infringement.

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Please reread my previous post.

Jared

On Monday 27 August 2001 22:00, Jenkins, Michael wrote:
 Sorry, I was just observing our fine country's fair use laws.  If I pay
 for a CD then I should be allowed to back it up just in case the disc
 becomes unusable.  Please don't use the information I've provided if you
 intend to pirate CDs.  After all Thomas Jefferson would be very happy to
 know that we are reverting back to his original concept of copyright law
 which only entitled exclusive ownership of your works for a limited time -
 - after that it went into the public domain!

 --Michael

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:00 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Please, let's not distribute copyright infringement
 schemes via this list.

 Opinions on fairness of the law, etc., are really
 not important here either.

 Jared

 On Monday 27 August 2001 08:46, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
  Actually, I have the crack to AOE, you want it?
 
  -Original Message-
  Tom
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM
  burner. I
  couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
  Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
  games just hung
  when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's
  or am I
  doing something wrong?
 
  Tom
 
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OT: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Joe Testa

Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
you are. :)

and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
starts an OT thread).

the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread
had gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that
is the illegal part.

joe

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Re: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Thanks Joe, I just deleted these but my email server doesn't need the
traffic. Ruth
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 Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

 Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
 you are. :)

 and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
 starts an OT thread).

 the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread
 had gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that
 is the illegal part.

 joe

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I 
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that
this is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with 
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask.
If you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and
burning CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here,
I want to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things 
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
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   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first
   every CDROM burner.  I
   couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of
   Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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RE: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

True, my apologies, didn't even think about.  I'll be sure to keep that sort
of behavior off of the list from now on.  Once again, sorry about that,
sometimes I am just not thinking.
KK

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Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
you are. :)

and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
starts an OT thread).

the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread
had gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that
is the illegal part.

joe

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

Well we know who wears the pants in this relationship.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence 
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Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I 
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that this
is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with 
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask. If
you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and burning
CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here, I want
to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
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 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 PM
 
 
  You are doing several things wrong:
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  b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Terrian, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every 
   CDROM burner.  I couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game 
   CD's (Age of Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Rachel Carmichael


Mladen,

Thank you :)

Rachel

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:52:09 -0800

Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that
this is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask.
If you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and
burning CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. 
Here,
I want to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
  Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things
  like this, we'lll
  try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
  KK
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  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 PM
 
 
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   a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
   b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
   Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
   Have a nice day.
  
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From: Terrian, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
   
   
Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first
every CDROM burner.  I
couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of
Empires, Return
Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
games just hung
when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
of my CD's or am I
doing something wrong?
   
Tom
   
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

Wow, is it Friday yet?

We should have a top ten of best off topic posts.
Isn't the Internet great?

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:01 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Thanks for keeping this this about oracle and only about oracle Mladen.
Thanks for contributing such gems as:

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
90MHZ Pentium which could do 3 arithmetic operations with the numbers, 
i.e. everything short of dividing two numbers correctly is still my
favorite.

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
OK, I stand corrected. Windows crashes just half of the time and if it
wasn't for Windows, I'd have to explain how to actually use a 
computer to a far too big lot of ignorant people. It is also a marvelous, 
although somewhat overpriced alternative for the Sony's PS2. Hopefully, the
statement above will mitigate your feelings toward 
us, the  poor Unix geeks that use unix to provide for our everyday's 
bread and Dom Perignon.

Gogala, Mladen, 8/16:
Where in the world did you come across 100MHZ Pentium? Natural history
museum,next to the T-Rex skeleton?

Gogala, Mladen, 8/10:
Rachel, William is referring to an old miracle of advertising prowess which
was unleashed onto US by the Swedish company Electrolux which sells vacuum
cleaners, among other things . To make the long story short, Swedes 
wanted to save the money needed for the translator, so they entrusted the
job of finding a catch phrase for selling their precious vacuum cleaners on
the US 
market to a guy whose experience with the English language consisted mainly
of watching two episodes of I love Lucy on TV. He came up with the phrase
Nothing sucks like Electrolux, which for some reason beyond comprehension 
failed to boost sales but it certainly did make it to the marketing history
books. I wonder if the miraculous marketeer was promoted after making the
marketing history?

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3:
AFAIK, the phrase the whole 9 yards precedes WWII and comes from WWI.
Allegedly, it was 
the size of the ammo belt for the maxim machine gun. The whole 9 yards meant
to fire it all. As for the abbreviations, my favorite was (and still is)
RTFM (Read The Fine Manual)

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3
You mean that they didn't have PCs, internet, MS Windows and  Night Show
with Ed Sullivan back there at Alamo?  What in the world has prompted Santa
Anna 
to  attack, then? 

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3
Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever been in the
same movie together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be
inseparable. I didn't know that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye
and Skelton?

and many others.


Tom Terrian
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-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:52 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I 
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that this
is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with 
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask. If
you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and burning
CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here, I want
to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 PM
 
 
  You are doing several things wrong:
  a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
  b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Terrian, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every 
   CDROM burner.  I couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game 
   CD's (Age of Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Which relationship? Any foreign keys around here?

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: RE: Burning game CD's
 
 
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Re: OT: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Jared . Still


 Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

 Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
 you are. :)

Good idea Joe, shoulda thought of it myself.  :)

Though I must have missed the post you're referring to.

Did someone impugn my dignity?  To the list, without
Cc'ing me?  Goodness, what is the world coming to.  :O

Ok, for those of you that don't know, I am the owner of
this often useful, always hectic and sometimes crazy list.

This list is not moderated for a number of reasons.

1. I trust people to behave themselves.
2. There's lots of creative folks here and good ideas
come from free-range thinking. ( kinda like free-range
chicken you know?  we even lay eggs sometimes )
3. It's more interesting that way
4. I don't have time.

Did I mention I don't have time to moderate this list?

The reason I asked to discontinue the questionable activity
regarding cracking CD copyright infringement schemes is
chiefly this:

   *I don't want or need the hassle!*

I'm one of the people that the lawyers will call.  Yes it
has happened.  I don't like to talk to lawyers. Especially
when they've loosened up their holsters.

Bruce Bergman is the owner of fatcity.com, and he doesn't
like to talk to lawyers either.

So, in a nutshell, the only times I've ever 'cracked down' on
this list are.

1.  a sociopath that was baiting everyone
2.  Racial/ethnic/sexual humor
3.  blatantly offensive material ( i.e. I received many complaints )
4.  Off Topic threads that just go on too long.

So, you probably won't hear from me often in the capacity of list owner.

But if you do, it's nothing personal,  please just be polite and
gracious, and this list will be of benefit for everyone.

Thanks for reading,

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Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
you are. :)

and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
starts an OT thread).

the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread
had gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that
is the illegal part.

joe

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Relationship?  There's a relationship here?  Oh great:)
KK

-Original Message-
Spence
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Well we know who wears the pants in this relationship.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence
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Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
73 Princeton Street
North, Chelmsford 01863




-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:52 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that this
is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask. If
you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and burning
CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here, I want
to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's


 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 PM


  You are doing several things wrong:
  a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
  b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Terrian, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every
   CDROM burner.  I couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game
   CD's (Age of Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Satar Naghshineh
Title: RE: Burning game CD's





Hi Tom,


Here's a great website for all your burning questions!


http://www.ultimateresourcesite.com/cdburning/main.htm


Also a search on www.deja.com (AKA google) on burning game CD produced a lot of interesting related articles.


Happy Reading and Burning!


Regards,
Satar Naghshineh



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 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Off Topic: I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM
 burner. I
 couldn't wait to use it. I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
 Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked. The games
 just hung
 when I ran them. Bummer. Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's or
 am I
 doing something wrong?

 Tom

 Tom Terrian
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Wow! I have fans! This will further inflate my already healthy ego

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 oracle Mladen.
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Henry Poras

Bill,
I hope you don't mean go away for good. You've been in this list for a while
and I'm sure you've seen a few of these kind of threads flare up and then
just disappear. Bad moods just sound a lot worse in e-mail.

Henry

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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:01 PM
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At 02:00 PM 8/28/2001, Terrian, Tom wrote:
Thanks for keeping this this about oracle and only about oracle Mladen.
Thanks for contributing such gems as:

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
90MHZ Pentium which could do 3 arithmetic operations with the numbers,
i.e. everything short of dividing two numbers correctly is still my
favorite.


OK, look people i'm fighting for my job here, and this list is one of my 
prime resources.  but i haven't got time for the flam wars, or for a list 
that's so uptight i can have a laugh and let off some stress.

i'm out of here, those of you who really want to write me know my 
address.  the rest of you are what filters are for.




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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Kimberly Smith

Tom, not the busiest DBA are you?  What, pray tell, do you expect
to get out of this?  Wait, no, don't answer because I really don't
care.

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:01 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Thanks for keeping this this about oracle and only about oracle Mladen.
Thanks for contributing such gems as:

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
90MHZ Pentium which could do 3 arithmetic operations with the numbers, 
i.e. everything short of dividing two numbers correctly is still my
favorite.

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
OK, I stand corrected. Windows crashes just half of the time and if
it wasn't for Windows, I'd have to explain how to actually use a 
computer to a far too big lot of ignorant people. It is also a marvelous, 
although somewhat overpriced alternative for the Sony's PS2.
Hopefully, the statement above will mitigate your feelings toward 
us, the  poor Unix geeks that use unix to provide for our everyday's 
bread and Dom Perignon.

Gogala, Mladen, 8/16:
Where in the world did you come across 100MHZ Pentium? Natural history
museum,next to the T-Rex skeleton?

Gogala, Mladen, 8/10:
Rachel, William is referring to an old miracle of advertising prowess
which was unleashed onto US by the Swedish company Electrolux which sells
vacuum cleaners, among other things . To make the long story short, Swedes 
wanted to save the money needed for the translator, so they entrusted the
job of finding a catch phrase for selling their precious vacuum cleaners on
the US 
market to a guy whose experience with the English language consisted mainly
of watching two episodes of I love Lucy on TV. He came up with the phrase
Nothing sucks like Electrolux, which for some reason beyond comprehension 
failed to boost sales but it certainly did make it to the marketing history
books.
I wonder if the miraculous marketeer was promoted after making the marketing
history?

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3:
AFAIK, the phrase the whole 9 yards precedes WWII and comes from WWI.
Allegedly, it was 
the size of the ammo belt for the maxim machine gun. The whole 9 yards meant
to fire it all.
As for the abbreviations, my favorite was (and still is) RTFM (Read The Fine
Manual)

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3
You mean that they didn't have PCs, internet, MS Windows and  Night Show
with Ed Sullivan back there at Alamo?  What in the world has prompted Santa
Anna 
to  attack, then? 

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3
Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever been in the
same movie
together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be inseparable. I
didn't know
that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye and Skelton?

and many others.


Tom Terrian
Oracle DBA
WPAFB - DAASC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
937-656-3844 


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:52 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I 
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that
this is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with 
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask.
If you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and
burning CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here,
I want to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things 
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 PM
 
 
  You are doing several things wrong:
  a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
  b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Terrian, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first
   every CDROM burner.  I
   couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of
   Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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   Oracle DBA
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Just one big disfunctional family.  I feel at home!!  :o)

Dave

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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Tom, not the busiest DBA are you?  What, pray tell, do you expect
to get out of this?  Wait, no, don't answer because I really don't
care.

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:01 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Thanks for keeping this this about oracle and only about oracle Mladen.
Thanks for contributing such gems as:

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
90MHZ Pentium which could do 3 arithmetic operations with the numbers, 
i.e. everything short of dividing two numbers correctly is still my
favorite.

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
OK, I stand corrected. Windows crashes just half of the time and if
it wasn't for Windows, I'd have to explain how to actually use a 
computer to a far too big lot of ignorant people. It is also a marvelous, 
although somewhat overpriced alternative for the Sony's PS2.
Hopefully, the statement above will mitigate your feelings toward 
us, the  poor Unix geeks that use unix to provide for our everyday's 
bread and Dom Perignon.

Gogala, Mladen, 8/16:
Where in the world did you come across 100MHZ Pentium? Natural history
museum,next to the T-Rex skeleton?

Gogala, Mladen, 8/10:
Rachel, William is referring to an old miracle of advertising prowess
which was unleashed onto US by the Swedish company Electrolux which sells
vacuum cleaners, among other things . To make the long story short, Swedes 
wanted to save the money needed for the translator, so they entrusted the
job of finding a catch phrase for selling their precious vacuum cleaners on
the US 
market to a guy whose experience with the English language consisted mainly
of watching two episodes of I love Lucy on TV. He came up with the phrase
Nothing sucks like Electrolux, which for some reason beyond comprehension 
failed to boost sales but it certainly did make it to the marketing history
books.
I wonder if the miraculous marketeer was promoted after making the marketing
history?

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3:
AFAIK, the phrase the whole 9 yards precedes WWII and comes from WWI.
Allegedly, it was 
the size of the ammo belt for the maxim machine gun. The whole 9 yards meant
to fire it all.
As for the abbreviations, my favorite was (and still is) RTFM (Read The Fine
Manual)

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3
You mean that they didn't have PCs, internet, MS Windows and  Night Show
with Ed Sullivan back there at Alamo?  What in the world has prompted Santa
Anna 
to  attack, then? 

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3
Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever been in the
same movie
together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be inseparable. I
didn't know
that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye and Skelton?

and many others.


Tom Terrian
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Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I 
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that
this is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with 
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask.
If you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and
burning CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here,
I want to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things 
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
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 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 PM
 
 
  You are doing several things wrong:
  a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
  b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
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   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first
   every CDROM burner.  I
   couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of
   Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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RE: OT: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Weaver, Walt

Hey Jared, have you found a job yet?

--Walt Weaver
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Good idea Joe, shoulda thought of it myself.  :)

Though I must have missed the post you're referring to.

Did someone impugn my dignity?  To the list, without
Cc'ing me?  Goodness, what is the world coming to.  :O

Ok, for those of you that don't know, I am the owner of
this often useful, always hectic and sometimes crazy list.

This list is not moderated for a number of reasons.

1. I trust people to behave themselves.
2. There's lots of creative folks here and good ideas
come from free-range thinking. ( kinda like free-range
chicken you know?  we even lay eggs sometimes )
3. It's more interesting that way
4. I don't have time.

Did I mention I don't have time to moderate this list?

The reason I asked to discontinue the questionable activity
regarding cracking CD copyright infringement schemes is
chiefly this:

   *I don't want or need the hassle!*

I'm one of the people that the lawyers will call.  Yes it
has happened.  I don't like to talk to lawyers. Especially
when they've loosened up their holsters.

Bruce Bergman is the owner of fatcity.com, and he doesn't
like to talk to lawyers either.

So, in a nutshell, the only times I've ever 'cracked down' on
this list are.

1.  a sociopath that was baiting everyone
2.  Racial/ethnic/sexual humor
3.  blatantly offensive material ( i.e. I received many complaints )
4.  Off Topic threads that just go on too long.

So, you probably won't hear from me often in the capacity of list owner.

But if you do, it's nothing personal,  please just be polite and
gracious, and this list will be of benefit for everyone.

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RE: OT: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Jared . Still


Walt asked:
 Hey Jared, have you found a job yet?

Yeah,  I thought I had told everyone.  Sorry I missed you Walt.

I'm now a Radisys ( www.radisys.com ) a high tech network
component manufacturer, as of 6/18/2001.

I'm the production DBA, dev DBA, DA, SAP DBA and PL/SQL guru.  :)

Nice place to work.  Not much DBA infrastructure, so I get
to build it myself.

Jared




   
 
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Hey Jared, have you found a job yet?

--Walt Weaver
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Good idea Joe, shoulda thought of it myself.  :)

Though I must have missed the post you're referring to.

Did someone impugn my dignity?  To the list, without
Cc'ing me?  Goodness, what is the world coming to.  :O

Ok, for those of you that don't know, I am the owner of
this often useful, always hectic and sometimes crazy list.

This list is not moderated for a number of reasons.

1. I trust people to behave themselves.
2. There's lots of creative folks here and good ideas
come from free-range thinking. ( kinda like free-range
chicken you know?  we even lay eggs sometimes )
3. It's more interesting that way
4. I don't have time.

Did I mention I don't have time to moderate this list?

The reason I asked to discontinue the questionable activity
regarding cracking CD copyright infringement schemes is
chiefly this:

   *I don't want or need the hassle!*

I'm one of the people that the lawyers will call.  Yes it
has happened.  I don't like to talk to lawyers. Especially
when they've loosened up their holsters.

Bruce Bergman is the owner of fatcity.com, and he doesn't
like to talk to lawyers either.

So, in a nutshell, the only times I've ever 'cracked down' on
this list are.

1.  a sociopath that was baiting everyone
2.  Racial/ethnic/sexual humor
3.  blatantly offensive material ( i.e. I received many complaints )
4.  Off Topic threads that just go on too long.

So, you probably won't hear from me often in the capacity of list owner.

But if you do, it's nothing personal,  please just be polite and
gracious, and this list will be of benefit for everyone.

Thanks for reading,

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OT RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Van M. Etheridge

Tom.

A number of things, at least in my experience, can cause the problems you
are having. The media(the blank CD's) depending on what you are recording
certain types of CD's are better than others and the play back device may
not be able to properly read the CD recording. I have recorded music CD's
that play fine on my CD player at work but do not work in my car CD player.
Check the manual or online help that came with your system for more
information specific to your hardware. I do not use my burner for games so I
do not have any experience in that regard.

My guess is that you burned the cd correctly, so to speak, just some of
these or similar factors came into play. Have fun with your cd burner, I
love mine even with these limitaions. So far I have been able to get around
most of them to suit my needs.

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Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM burner.
I
couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires, Return
Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The games just
hung
when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's or
am I
doing something wrong?

Tom

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Use a disk copier ... i.e. copy CD to CD complete (Adaptec CD Copier) not
individual files. Right now there are no (known) copy protected game CDs,
only few music CDs. The music CDs are supposed to include 'hiss' and
'clicks' and 'pops' when you copy them. Someone will soon break that as
well.

If you don't have another CDROM or DVD drive, you might have to create a
disk image of the CD you want to copy and then create the CD. Make sure you
use correct format, i.e. data CD for games etc. 

I haven't seen a copy protection scheme that has worked flawlessly other
than a threat of prosecution through a license agreement. 

This is also getting to a stage where it is frightening ... last week Salon
had an article where a couple had their cable modem access cut by Ti**War**
company after MPAA found that someone had loaded a copyrighted movie for
download using their IP address (spoofing). All this time the couple was on
vacation and it took them lot of phone calls to get their access back.

Raj
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Some games, especially microsoft games have some sort of code or something
on them that prevents burned cd's from operating correctly.  I know that
it's definatley on Age of Empires.  However, if you look around on the
Internet you can find cracks for them, I know there is one for Age of
Empires.
KK

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Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM burner.
I
couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires, Return
Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The games just
hung
when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's or
am I
doing something wrong?

Tom

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Jenkins, Michael

Almost EVERY new game CD-ROM is now copy-protected, most of them utilize
SafeDisc.  You can find sites out there that will tell you how to make
backup copies of your discs.  Check out http://www.gamecopyworld.com.  You
must use I/E for this site to work correctly.  There are no known
copy-protected music CDs in the U.S.  Europe has about 100,000 of them out
in circulation unbeknownst to most consumers.  For music CDs use ParanoidCD
on Linux.

--Michael

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Use a disk copier ... i.e. copy CD to CD complete (Adaptec CD Copier) not
individual files. Right now there are no (known) copy protected game CDs,
only few music CDs. The music CDs are supposed to include 'hiss' and
'clicks' and 'pops' when you copy them. Someone will soon break that as
well.

If you don't have another CDROM or DVD drive, you might have to create a
disk image of the CD you want to copy and then create the CD. Make sure you
use correct format, i.e. data CD for games etc. 

I haven't seen a copy protection scheme that has worked flawlessly other
than a threat of prosecution through a license agreement. 

This is also getting to a stage where it is frightening ... last week Salon
had an article where a couple had their cable modem access cut by Ti**War**
company after MPAA found that someone had loaded a copyrighted movie for
download using their IP address (spoofing). All this time the couple was on
vacation and it took them lot of phone calls to get their access back.

Raj
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Actually, I have the crack to AOE, you want it?

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Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM burner.
I
couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires, Return
Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The games just
hung
when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's or
am I
doing something wrong?

Tom

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Christopher Spence

Copy protection.  A lot of games now use copy protection.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM burner.
I couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The games
just hung when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my
CD's or am I doing something wrong?

Tom

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Christopher Spence

I just did a quick search on google, here is a good article in reguards:

http://www.pcmech.com/showdoc/34/

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
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Use a disk copier ... i.e. copy CD to CD complete (Adaptec CD Copier) not
individual files. Right now there are no (known) copy protected game CDs,
only few music CDs. The music CDs are supposed to include 'hiss' and
'clicks' and 'pops' when you copy them. Someone will soon break that as
well.

If you don't have another CDROM or DVD drive, you might have to create a
disk image of the CD you want to copy and then create the CD. Make sure you
use correct format, i.e. data CD for games etc. 

I haven't seen a copy protection scheme that has worked flawlessly other
than a threat of prosecution through a license agreement. 

This is also getting to a stage where it is frightening ... last week Salon
had an article where a couple had their cable modem access cut by Ti**War**
company after MPAA found that someone had loaded a copyrighted movie for
download using their IP address (spoofing). All this time the couple was on
vacation and it took them lot of phone calls to get their access back.

Raj
__
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Christopher Spence

70% of games today are now copy protected.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Use a disk copier ... i.e. copy CD to CD complete (Adaptec CD Copier) not
individual files. Right now there are no (known) copy protected game CDs,
only few music CDs. The music CDs are supposed to include 'hiss' and
'clicks' and 'pops' when you copy them. Someone will soon break that as
well.

If you don't have another CDROM or DVD drive, you might have to create a
disk image of the CD you want to copy and then create the CD. Make sure you
use correct format, i.e. data CD for games etc. 

I haven't seen a copy protection scheme that has worked flawlessly other
than a threat of prosecution through a license agreement. 

This is also getting to a stage where it is frightening ... last week Salon
had an article where a couple had their cable modem access cut by Ti**War**
company after MPAA found that someone had loaded a copyrighted movie for
download using their IP address (spoofing). All this time the couple was on
vacation and it took them lot of phone calls to get their access back.

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Bill Conner

Find a riper (burner)  that does a binary rip and they will work.

At 07:46 AM 8/27/2001 -0800, you wrote:
Some games, especially microsoft games have some sort of code or something
on them that prevents burned cd's from operating correctly.  I know that
it's definatley on Age of Empires.  However, if you look around on the
Internet you can find cracks for them, I know there is one for Age of
Empires.
KK

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Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM burner.
I
couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires, Return
Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The games just
hung
when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's or
am I
doing something wrong?

Tom

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Thanks I didn't knew ... and I am not a big fan of PC games anyway, so I
only read about music CD copyright related stuff.
..hmmm I have to catch up on my reading  

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I just did a quick search on google, here is a good article in reguards:

http://www.pcmech.com/showdoc/34/

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Gogala, Mladen

You are doing several things wrong:
a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
Have a nice day.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terrian, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first 
 every CDROM burner.  I
 couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of 
 Empires, Return
 Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The 
 games just hung
 when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies 
 of my CD's or am I
 doing something wrong?
 
 Tom
 
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Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Jared Still


Please, let's not distribute copyright infringement
schemes via this list.

Opinions on fairness of the law, etc., are really 
not important here either.

Jared


On Monday 27 August 2001 08:46, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
 Actually, I have the crack to AOE, you want it?

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 Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM
 burner. I
 couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
 Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The games
 just hung
 when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's or
 am I
 doing something wrong?

 Tom

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Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things like this, we'lll
try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
KK
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 You are doing several things wrong:
 a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
 b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
 Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
 Have a nice day.

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  Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first
  every CDROM burner.  I
  couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of
  Empires, Return
  Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
  games just hung
  when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
  of my CD's or am I
  doing something wrong?
 
  Tom
 
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-27 Thread Jenkins, Michael

Sorry, I was just observing our fine country's fair use laws.  If I pay
for a CD then I should be allowed to back it up just in case the disc
becomes unusable.  Please don't use the information I've provided if you
intend to pirate CDs.  After all Thomas Jefferson would be very happy to
know that we are reverting back to his original concept of copyright law
which only entitled exclusive ownership of your works for a limited time - -
after that it went into the public domain!

--Michael

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Please, let's not distribute copyright infringement
schemes via this list.

Opinions on fairness of the law, etc., are really 
not important here either.

Jared


On Monday 27 August 2001 08:46, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
 Actually, I have the crack to AOE, you want it?

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 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM
 burner. I
 couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
 Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The games
 just hung
 when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's or
 am I
 doing something wrong?

 Tom

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