RE: CA's AutoSys
We purchased Autosys when it was owned by Platinum and continue to use it today for all of our production jobs. The server and clients are running on AIX 4.3.3. and we have had no problems with the product. @fatcity.com on 10/18/2002 08:19 AM PST Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Run Screaming in the opposite direction. Product was a semi-disaster at two previous job sites. Failed to run jobs when scheduled, failed to detected when dependent jobs failed. Just plain didn't work well. Of course this was when Platinum owned the product, who knows, maybe CA improved it. (although I would doubt it). Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Write a poem about a haircut! But lofty, noble, tragic, full of love, treachery, retribution, quiet heroism in the face of certain doom! Six lines, cleverly rhymed, and every word beginning with the letter s! -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L To All, I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database, I figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using the product. The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any input you all have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tracy Rahmlow INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: CA's AutoSys
Title: RE: CA's AutoSys Run Screaming in the opposite direction. Product was a semi-disaster at two previous job sites. Failed to run jobs when scheduled, failed to detected when dependent jobs failed. Just plain didn't work well. Of course this was when Platinum owned the product, who knows, maybe CA improved it. (although I would doubt it). Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Write a poem about a haircut! But lofty, noble, tragic, full of love, treachery, retribution, quiet heroism in the face of certain doom! Six lines, cleverly rhymed, and every word beginning with the letter s! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: CA's AutoSys To All, I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database, I figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using the product. The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any input you all have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: CA's AutoSys
Dick, We have been using that product for quite some time now... and it does a pretty good job of scheduling things. In our environment *all* jobs are handled by Autosys, and we are not supposed to use 'cron'. We use the product for scheduling jobs on a variety of h/w platforms( IBM-AIX, HP, Sun, SGI etc). It does need some dedicated resources to manage a large and dynamic environment. In our case, Operations and Production Control group has 2-3 FTEs maintaining the job schedules. The database used by Autosys is an Oracle 8i database and we have a Senior DBA responsible for it, as it is one of the *most critical* databases in the Company. - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L To All, I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database, I figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using the product. The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any input you all have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: CA's AutoSys
Title: RE: CA's AutoSys I too had issues with this product... But, it was several years ago... Back then it was owned by Platinum and the product ran on NT 3.51... We were using it to schedule all our Unix batch jobs for the Sales Force Automation project I was working on... Unfortunately, I was the first projectusing it at the company and had to suffer through many of the issues detailed below... If I remember correctly, it eventually got to a "workable" state after acouple months of patches and workarounds... I remember one job in particular... PSFUNX35...Every Friday night/Saturday morning about 3:00 AM I would get a call from the operations center in Parkersburg, WV... "Hello Tim... This is Jack in Parkersburg... Sorry to bother you... But, PS - FUN - X35 failed again..." He used to pronounce the job as... PS[break] FUN[break] X35... Needless to say it was not very fun... :-) Tim -Original Message-From: Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:19 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: CA's AutoSys Run Screaming in the opposite direction. Product was a semi-disaster at two previous job sites. Failed to run jobs when scheduled, failed to detected when dependent jobs failed. Just plain didn't work well. Of course this was when Platinum owned the product, who knows, maybe CA improved it. (although I would doubt it). Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Write a poem about a haircut! But lofty, noble, tragic, full of love, treachery, retribution, quiet heroism in the face of certain doom! Six lines, cleverly rhymed, and every word beginning with the letter s! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: CA's AutoSys To All, I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database, I figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using the product. The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any input you all have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: CA's AutoSys
We use CA-Workload which I think is the same product packaged differently. We schedule about 400 jobs each night through it. The jobs run on NT, VMS, Oracle, and Oracle Express with interdependencies between jobs on different platforms. I have to say it works pretty well, but only after about a year of really banging at it to get it just right. It will do what they say it will, but takes a fair amount of (human) resources to get there if your jobstream is large and complex. And dealing with CA is no picnic either... -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L To All, I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database, I figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using the product. The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any input you all have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seefelt, Beth INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: CA's AutoSys
We too make extensive use of the product, though our team does not need to maintain it. Just the backend database. Seems to work as intended, alerting the operations staff in case of failures. I have not heard the folks trash this product. Though, I have had them ask me for JIL scripts, whatever that means, to setup jobs, at which point, I go to my good old cron. Raj Deshpande, Kirti kirti.deshpande@veTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] rizon.com cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: CA's AutoSys [EMAIL PROTECTED] October 18, 2002 12:39 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Dick, We have been using that product for quite some time now... and it does a pretty good job of scheduling things. In our environment *all* jobs are handled by Autosys, and we are not supposed to use 'cron'. We use the product for scheduling jobs on a variety of h/w platforms( IBM-AIX, HP, Sun, SGI etc). It does need some dedicated resources to manage a large and dynamic environment. In our case, Operations and Production Control group has 2-3 FTEs maintaining the job schedules. The database used by Autosys is an Oracle 8i database and we have a Senior DBA responsible for it, as it is one of the *most critical* databases in the Company. - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L To All, I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database, I figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using the product. The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any input you all have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: CA's AutoSys
Oh, I don't know about that. At one of the places you used to work, they _finally_ got it to work, but it did need at least one full-time, dedicated employee to monitor, maintain and massage it. Terry Ball, DBA Birch Telecom Work: 816-300-1335 FAX: 816-300-1800 -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Run Screaming in the opposite direction. Product was a semi-disaster at two previous job sites. Failed to run jobs when scheduled, failed to detected when dependent jobs failed. Just plain didn't work well. Of course this was when Platinum owned the product, who knows, maybe CA improved it. (although I would doubt it). Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Write a poem about a haircut! But lofty, noble, tragic, full of love, treachery, retribution, quiet heroism in the face of certain doom! Six lines, cleverly rhymed, and every word beginning with the letter s! -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L To All, I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database, I figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using the product. The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any input you all have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ball, Terry INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: CA's AutoSys
Title: RE: CA's AutoSys I think we may be talking about the same place Terry, aren't we? Matt Adams -Original Message- From: Ball, Terry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: CA's AutoSys Oh, I don't know about that. At one of the places you used to work, they _finally_ got it to work, but it did need at least one full-time, dedicated employee to monitor, maintain and massage it. Terry Ball, DBA Birch Telecom Work: 816-300-1335 FAX: 816-300-1800 -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Run Screaming in the opposite direction. Product was a semi-disaster at two previous job sites. Failed to run jobs when scheduled, failed to detected when dependent jobs failed. Just plain didn't work well. Of course this was when Platinum owned the product, who knows, maybe CA improved it. (although I would doubt it). Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Write a poem about a haircut! But lofty, noble, tragic, full of love, treachery, retribution, quiet heroism in the face of certain doom! Six lines, cleverly rhymed, and every word beginning with the letter s! -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L To All, I'll admit this is somewhat off-topic, but since the project is going to handle all scheduled batch jobs that bang on our PeopleSoft Oracle database, I figured I'd ask if anyone has an opinion preferably from experience using the product. The Complete A^^holes are here today to do a demo install so any input you all have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ball, Terry INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
