Re: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..)

2003-07-16 Thread Glenn Stauffer
Boivin, Patrice J wrote:

Why would the H1-B cost the employer money?

Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee at the
local embassy or consultate and that's it.  Work visas may be different, I
don't know
Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits?

Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S..

I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather here in
Canada  (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway).
: )

I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs. American
staff competing for jobs.  Usually when there is a recession.  During boom
times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas.
Patrice.

 

This is my take on it from experience I've had.  There is a visa fee 
that the sponsor pays - for us, as a non-profit, it is $130 if we don't 
mind waiting for up to four months or $1130 with expedited processing - 
the fees are higher for profit-making enterprises.That's really 
insignificant for the most part.  But, there is the process itself which 
involves a fair amount of time and paperwork - you need to be prepared 
for that and if you have no experience it will take significantly more 
of your time or you'll end up hiring an attorney to take care of the 
application.  All this and the visa is not guaranteed to be issued; if 
it isn't, you'll likely end up paying more attorney fees if you want to 
appeal the decision.  There is also a cap on the number of visa's that 
are issued annually, but I don't really know if that is ever reached.  
If all goes well, and the visa comes through, you also then need to keep 
work logs (not sure if you need to file them) and, from what I 
understand, if there are changes in employment status during the term of 
the visa - like assigning the person to another job, you have to get 
approval from the government.

Glenn

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Re: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..)

2003-07-16 Thread Rachel Carmichael
you have to spend money to hire someone with an H1-B visa, as you are 
basically sponsoring them for citizenship.  You have to prove that you
cannot find an American citizen who can fill that job etc etc.


--- Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would the H1-B cost the employer money?
 
 Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee
 at the
 local embassy or consultate and that's it.  Work visas may be
 different, I
 don't know
 
 Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits?
 
 Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S..
 
 I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather
 here in
 Canada  (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway).
 
 : )
 
 I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs.
 American
 staff competing for jobs.  Usually when there is a recession.  During
 boom
 times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas.
 
 Patrice.
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:55 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Regis,
 
 that's not discrimination as it is defined in the US.  it is a
 business
 decision not to spend money to hire someone to work for you.
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:25 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 and they had NO H-1B candidates please. What a discrimination...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:04 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Jared,
 
 can we get orastaff banned from the list? I know people need jobs but
 Orastaff is a notorious spammer. I get spammed
 from these guys through my home email. 
 
 
  
  From: OraStaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2003/07/16 Wed AM 10:54:27 EDT
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..
  
  Minneapolis, Minnesota company has a great opportunity available
 for a Sr.
 level
  Oracle DBA to join their IT staff.
  
  The selected candidate must be highly skilled in solving extremely
 complex
  and very 
  critical customer issues. With preferably over 10 years experience
 in a
  large-scale 
  multi-network open-systems environment, the candidate anticipates
 and
 plans
  for reliability, 
  availability, and serviceability in the design, development and
  implementation of 
  Oracle 8i and 9i solutions.  
  The candidate will be recognized as a technical authority in the
 design,
  analysis, 
  implementation and integration of large-scale database management
 systems.
  
  Candidates local to the Minneapolis area are preferred, but any
 candidate
  who meets
  the qualifications for the position will be considered.
  
  Base Salary is in the 85-100K range plus bonus.
  
  PLEASE Do Not send your resume for this position UNLESS you have
 the
 skills 
  outlined below for this position.
  
  Please Do Not send your resume unless you have a stable work
 history.
  Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot
 be
  considered.
  
  This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third
 parties
  please.
  
  NO H-1B candidates please.
  
  
  *MUST meet these requirements:
  -BS degree in CS or related field.
  -8-10 years experience in a large-scale multi-network open-systems
 environment.
  -Very solid Oracle DBA experience..including 8i and 9i.
  -Proficient at capacity monitoring and management capabilities,
 preferably
  an expert knowledge 
   of Enterprise Manager 9i (OEM), and STATSPACK.
  -Experience performing Oracle installations, upgrades, and
 supporting
 Oracle
  utilities 
   and services in a variety of operating systems (Solaris, NT,
 Linux) is
  required. 
  -Migration and upgrade experience is essential. 
  -Expert knowledge of on-line back-up/recovery procedures with
 snapshotting
  a plus. 
  -Proficiency with RMAN is essential.  
  -Ability to work with engineering staff to configure SAN storage
 for
 optimal
  Oracle performance.
  -Expert knowledge of UNIX scripting including CRON Jobs, Oracle
 Stored
  Procedures, Triggers,
   Packages, Real Application Clusters (RAC).  
  -Performance Tuning and Performance management skills are required,
  SQL*Plus, PL/SQL, 
   SQL*Loader, SQL, and UNIX. 
  -The applicant must have in-depth experience with ER diagramming,
 data
  modeling tools, 
   (erWIN preferred) normalization, de-normalization, database
 programming
 and
  design, 
   query optimization, index optimization, use of hints.  Optimal
 setup of
  dblink, views, 
   and use of Oracle gateway is required. Must understand how to
 design and
  tune an Oracle 
   database to optimize performance for potentially thousands of
 concurrent,
  browser-based 
   users together with ETL processes.
  -Excellent written and verbal communications skills with the
 ability to
  effectively communicate 
   technical and business problems/issues 

RE: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..)

2003-07-16 Thread Anjan Thakuria
Not true.. Rachel with due respect.. 

-Original Message-
Rachel Carmichael
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


you have to spend money to hire someone with an H1-B visa, as you are 
basically sponsoring them for citizenship.  You have to prove that you
cannot find an American citizen who can fill that job etc etc.


--- Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would the H1-B cost the employer money?
 
 Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee 
 at the local embassy or consultate and that's it.  Work visas may be
 different, I
 don't know
 
 Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits?
 
 Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S..
 
 I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather here 
 in Canada  (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway).
 
 : )
 
 I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs. 
 American staff competing for jobs.  Usually when there is a recession.  
 During boom
 times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas.
 
 Patrice.
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:55 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Regis,
 
 that's not discrimination as it is defined in the US.  it is a 
 business decision not to spend money to hire someone to work for you.
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:25 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 and they had NO H-1B candidates please. What a discrimination...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:04 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Jared,
 
 can we get orastaff banned from the list? I know people need jobs but 
 Orastaff is a notorious spammer. I get spammed from these guys through 
 my home email.
 
 
  
  From: OraStaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2003/07/16 Wed AM 10:54:27 EDT
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..
  
  Minneapolis, Minnesota company has a great opportunity available
 for a Sr.
 level
  Oracle DBA to join their IT staff.
  
  The selected candidate must be highly skilled in solving extremely
 complex
  and very
  critical customer issues. With preferably over 10 years experience
 in a
  large-scale
  multi-network open-systems environment, the candidate anticipates
 and
 plans
  for reliability,
  availability, and serviceability in the design, development and
  implementation of 
  Oracle 8i and 9i solutions.  
  The candidate will be recognized as a technical authority in the
 design,
  analysis,
  implementation and integration of large-scale database management
 systems.
  
  Candidates local to the Minneapolis area are preferred, but any
 candidate
  who meets
  the qualifications for the position will be considered.
  
  Base Salary is in the 85-100K range plus bonus.
  
  PLEASE Do Not send your resume for this position UNLESS you have
 the
 skills
  outlined below for this position.
  
  Please Do Not send your resume unless you have a stable work
 history.
  Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot
 be
  considered.
  
  This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third
 parties
  please.
  
  NO H-1B candidates please.
  
  
  *MUST meet these requirements:
  -BS degree in CS or related field.
  -8-10 years experience in a large-scale multi-network open-systems
 environment.
  -Very solid Oracle DBA experience..including 8i and 9i. -Proficient 
  at capacity monitoring and management capabilities,
 preferably
  an expert knowledge
   of Enterprise Manager 9i (OEM), and STATSPACK.
  -Experience performing Oracle installations, upgrades, and
 supporting
 Oracle
  utilities
   and services in a variety of operating systems (Solaris, NT,
 Linux) is
  required.
  -Migration and upgrade experience is essential. 
  -Expert knowledge of on-line back-up/recovery procedures with
 snapshotting
  a plus.
  -Proficiency with RMAN is essential.  
  -Ability to work with engineering staff to configure SAN storage
 for
 optimal
  Oracle performance.
  -Expert knowledge of UNIX scripting including CRON Jobs, Oracle
 Stored
  Procedures, Triggers,
   Packages, Real Application Clusters (RAC).
  -Performance Tuning and Performance management skills are required,
  SQL*Plus, PL/SQL, 
   SQL*Loader, SQL, and UNIX. 
  -The applicant must have in-depth experience with ER diagramming,
 data
  modeling tools,
   (erWIN preferred) normalization, de-normalization, database
 programming
 and
  design,
   query optimization, index optimization, use of hints.  Optimal
 setup of
  dblink, views,
   and use of Oracle gateway is required. Must understand how to
 design and
  tune an Oracle
   database to optimize performance for potentially thousands of
 concurrent,
  browser-based
   users together with ETL 

RE: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed. .)

2003-07-16 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Sounds rigid as a system.

Thanks for  the answer Glenn.

Patrice.

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 2:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
needed..)


Boivin, Patrice J wrote:

Why would the H1-B cost the employer money?

Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee at the
local embassy or consultate and that's it.  Work visas may be different, I
don't know

Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits?

Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S..

I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather here in
Canada  (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway).

: )

I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs. American
staff competing for jobs.  Usually when there is a recession.  During boom
times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas.

Patrice.

  

This is my take on it from experience I've had.  There is a visa fee 
that the sponsor pays - for us, as a non-profit, it is $130 if we don't 
mind waiting for up to four months or $1130 with expedited processing - 
the fees are higher for profit-making enterprises.That's really 
insignificant for the most part.  But, there is the process itself which 
involves a fair amount of time and paperwork - you need to be prepared 
for that and if you have no experience it will take significantly more 
of your time or you'll end up hiring an attorney to take care of the 
application.  All this and the visa is not guaranteed to be issued; if 
it isn't, you'll likely end up paying more attorney fees if you want to 
appeal the decision.  There is also a cap on the number of visa's that 
are issued annually, but I don't really know if that is ever reached.  
If all goes well, and the visa comes through, you also then need to keep 
work logs (not sure if you need to file them) and, from what I 
understand, if there are changes in employment status during the term of 
the visa - like assigning the person to another job, you have to get 
approval from the government.

Glenn

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RE: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..)

2003-07-16 Thread Jay Wade
Like most laws there is always a different way to look at it

http://www.h1bvisalaw.com/


From: Anjan Thakuria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience 
needed..)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:09:24 -0800

Not true.. Rachel with due respect..

-Original Message-
Rachel Carmichael
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
you have to spend money to hire someone with an H1-B visa, as you are
basically sponsoring them for citizenship.  You have to prove that you
cannot find an American citizen who can fill that job etc etc.
--- Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would the H1-B cost the employer money?

 Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee
 at the local embassy or consultate and that's it.  Work visas may be
 different, I
 don't know

 Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits?

 Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S..

 I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather here
 in Canada  (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway).

 : )

 I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs.
 American staff competing for jobs.  Usually when there is a recession.
 During boom
 times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas.

 Patrice.

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:55 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Regis,

 that's not discrimination as it is defined in the US.  it is a
 business decision not to spend money to hire someone to work for you.

 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:25 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 and they had NO H-1B candidates please. What a discrimination...

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:04 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Jared,

 can we get orastaff banned from the list? I know people need jobs but
 Orastaff is a notorious spammer. I get spammed from these guys through
 my home email.


 
  From: OraStaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2003/07/16 Wed AM 10:54:27 EDT
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..
 
  Minneapolis, Minnesota company has a great opportunity available
 for a Sr.
 level
  Oracle DBA to join their IT staff.
 
  The selected candidate must be highly skilled in solving extremely
 complex
  and very
  critical customer issues. With preferably over 10 years experience
 in a
  large-scale
  multi-network open-systems environment, the candidate anticipates
 and
 plans
  for reliability,
  availability, and serviceability in the design, development and
  implementation of
  Oracle 8i and 9i solutions.
  The candidate will be recognized as a technical authority in the
 design,
  analysis,
  implementation and integration of large-scale database management
 systems.
 
  Candidates local to the Minneapolis area are preferred, but any
 candidate
  who meets
  the qualifications for the position will be considered.
 
  Base Salary is in the 85-100K range plus bonus.
 
  PLEASE Do Not send your resume for this position UNLESS you have
 the
 skills
  outlined below for this position.
 
  Please Do Not send your resume unless you have a stable work
 history.
  Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot
 be
  considered.
 
  This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third
 parties
  please.
 
  NO H-1B candidates please.
 
 
  *MUST meet these requirements:
  -BS degree in CS or related field.
  -8-10 years experience in a large-scale multi-network open-systems
 environment.
  -Very solid Oracle DBA experience..including 8i and 9i. -Proficient
  at capacity monitoring and management capabilities,
 preferably
  an expert knowledge
   of Enterprise Manager 9i (OEM), and STATSPACK.
  -Experience performing Oracle installations, upgrades, and
 supporting
 Oracle
  utilities
   and services in a variety of operating systems (Solaris, NT,
 Linux) is
  required.
  -Migration and upgrade experience is essential.
  -Expert knowledge of on-line back-up/recovery procedures with
 snapshotting
  a plus.
  -Proficiency with RMAN is essential.
  -Ability to work with engineering staff to configure SAN storage
 for
 optimal
  Oracle performance.
  -Expert knowledge of UNIX scripting including CRON Jobs, Oracle
 Stored
  Procedures, Triggers,
   Packages, Real Application Clusters (RAC).
  -Performance Tuning and Performance management skills are required,
  SQL*Plus, PL/SQL,
   SQL*Loader, SQL, and UNIX.
  -The applicant must have in-depth experience with ER diagramming,
 data
  modeling tools,
   (erWIN preferred) normalization, de-normalization, database
 programming
 and
  design,
   query optimization, index