RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
Now won't you feel bad if someone actually follows your tongue-in-cheek suggestion? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 06:10PM Another good way of reclaiming disk space on Unix boxes is to execute "rm -rf /" as "root". That is an excellent way for saving some money for the disk drives -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have dropped a datafile a couple of times by taking it offline and then dropping it. This was done after I created a new datafile and accidentally put it in the wrong place, got the allocation wrong or misspelled the name. You just have to make absolutely sure that the datafile does not contain any objects. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Sawmiller INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
You shouldn't joke like that :). There are some real new newbies on this list who will follow exactly what you say. Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 06:10PM Another good way of reclaiming disk space on Unix boxes is to execute "rm -rf /" as "root". That is an excellent way for saving some money for the disk drives -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have dropped a datafile a couple of times by taking it offline and then dropping it. This was done after I created a new datafile and accidentally put it in the wrong place, got the allocation wrong or misspelled the name. You just have to make absolutely sure that the datafile does not contain any objects. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
If someone has been given access to root and doesn't know what they are doing, then the sysadmins deserve whatever happens to their systems... My two cents -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gene Sais Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: How to get rid off file permanently? You shouldn't joke like that :). There are some real new newbies on this list who will follow exactly what you say. Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 06:10PM Another good way of reclaiming disk space on Unix boxes is to execute "rm -rf /" as "root". That is an excellent way for saving some money for the disk drives -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have dropped a datafile a couple of times by taking it offline and then dropping it. This was done after I created a new datafile and accidentally put it in the wrong place, got the allocation wrong or misspelled the name. You just have to make absolutely sure that the datafile does not contain any objects. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
Not every company is big enough to have an IT staff. Some I've worked at, you are the developer, sysadmin, network/firewall admin, and dba. However, I would draw the line on doing bathrooms :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/13/01 01:46PM If someone has been given access to root and doesn't know what they are doing, then the sysadmins deserve whatever happens to their systems... My two cents -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gene Sais Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: How to get rid off file permanently? You shouldn't joke like that :). There are some real new newbies on this list who will follow exactly what you say. Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 06:10PM Another good way of reclaiming disk space on Unix boxes is to execute "rm -rf /" as "root". That is an excellent way for saving some money for the disk drives -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have dropped a datafile a couple of times by taking it offline and then dropping it. This was done after I created a new datafile and accidentally put it in the wrong place, got the allocation wrong or misspelled the name. You just have to make absolutely sure that the datafile does not contain any objects. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
Plus, they can practice recover (or determine if their backup procedures are adequate). -Original Message- Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 10:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If someone has been given access to root and doesn't know what they are doing, then the sysadmins deserve whatever happens to their systems... My two cents -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gene Sais Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: How to get rid off file permanently? You shouldn't joke like that :). There are some real new newbies on this list who will follow exactly what you say. Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 06:10PM Another good way of reclaiming disk space on Unix boxes is to execute "rm -rf /" as "root". That is an excellent way for saving some money for the disk drives -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have dropped a datafile a couple of times by taking it offline and then dropping it. This was done after I created a new datafile and accidentally put it in the wrong place, got the allocation wrong or misspelled the name. You just have to make absolutely sure that the datafile does not contain any objects. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Serv
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
Well, if a total newbie is given root access to production machines then my suggestion will actually help them streamline their operating procedures and find flaws in their administration principles. Actually, you might say that if there is a company which has a person of the right mindset to follow my advice and if that person has root access to production machines, my advice will probably help them straighten out their biggest mistake - being in the business in the first place. As a DBA and a gentleman I can not but take pride in helping people to stop making mistakes. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:21 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Now won't you feel bad if someone actually follows your tongue-in-cheek suggestion? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 06:10PM Another good way of reclaiming disk space on Unix boxes is to execute "rm -rf /" as "root". That is an excellent way for saving some money for the disk drives -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have dropped a datafile a couple of times by taking it offline and then dropping it. This was done after I created a new datafile and accidentally put it in the wrong place, got the allocation wrong or misspelled the name. You just have to make absolutely sure that the datafile does not contain any objects. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Sawmiller INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX:
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
delicious. :) On 13 Apr 2001, at 13:40, Gogala, Mladen scribbled with alacrity and cogency: ... As a DBA and a gentleman I can not but take pride in helping people to stop making mistakes. next: ... John Leo on CSPAN. As you may recall, he is the columnist from "U.S. News and World Report" who gave CSUS President Gerth the 1999 "Sheldon Award" for political correctness. ( http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/000103/03john.htm ). ---excerpt--- ... The coveted annual prize that goes to a wimpy college president Exhausted staffers for this column have finished wading through dozens of nominees for the third annual Sheldon Award. Named for Sheldon Hackney, who scaled the heights of Sheldonism as president of the University of Pennsylvania, this coveted prize is given each year to a craven college president who looks the other way while campus newspapers are stolen. ... ---end--- ... on CSPAN, John Leo (warm, mild, grandfatherly, caring, thoughtful, principled [witty]) was talking about the topics in his new book "Incorrect Thoughts" at an event organized by the Independent Women's Forum. Since IWF's (very interesting) web site hasn't been updated recently, I found some other links about Leo's book that you might also find interesting. http://www.iwf.org - John Leo's columns: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/leo1.asp - (and: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/jleo.htm ) http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/leo031201.asp excerpt from the above link: ... That notion that free speech is a tool of the oppressor is now mainstream in the campus culture. This is why campus newspapers with the wrong news keep getting stolen, posters for the wrong events keep getting torn down, and speakers with the wrong views keep getting disinvited or silenced. Recent nonspeakers at Berkeley, home of the free-speech movement, include conservative organizer Daniel Flynn (shouted down) and former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu (threats of violence, advised to withdraw by police). Berkeley gets another chance to oppose free speech this week. David Horowitz is scheduled to speak there on March 15 (end excerpt) http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/000612/12john.htm excerpt from the above link: ... Post-1960s liberalism has lost its communal sensibility and now talks almost exclusively of autonomy and rights, not obligation or moral accountability. As Stein [_How I Accidentally Joined the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy: (And Found Inner Peace)_] points out, it has aggressively labored to devalue society by trying to banish moral and religious discourse from the public arena. Values are viewed as matters of personal taste. Even the famous liberal belief in openness, tolerance, and free speech now looks like a discarded tenet. Witness all the disinvited speakers, stolen newspapers, and current not-very-liberal efforts to silence Laura Schlessinger and derecognize campus Christian groups. What passes for liberalism now, Stein says, is often an attempt to impose rectitude, "usually with the active cooperation of the news media, government agencies, and Hollywood, all of which somehow get to call their own agenda 'inclusive' instead of 'narrow.' " (end excerpt) more at: http://www.google.com/search?q=john+leo+incorrect+thoughts --- also: http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/courses/ed191/assignment1/1970illich.html excerpt: ... According to Illich, "obligatory instruction assumes the belief that man can do what God cannot, namely, manipulate others for their own salvation" (1970, p.50). By deschooling society, schools would continue to exist but their workings would be very different from those operating at present. Deschooling could only occur given alternative social arrangements and legal protections as well as a reconceptualization of what constitutes learning in the heart of every deschooled person. According to Illich, schools are the "reproductive organ of a consumer society" (1970). Schools produce myths upon which an economic society depends. Schooling is a ritual performed by participants who are made blind to the discrepancy between the purpose for and the consequences of the ritual. Despite the advertised purpose of promoting social equality and democratic participation, schooling is "the ritual of a society committed to progress and development" (Cayley, 1992, p. 67). In his thesis titled, Deschooling Society, Ivan Illich promulgates four myths created by the school ritual; 1) the myth of unending consumption, 2) the myth of measurement of values, 3) the myth of packaging values, and 4) the myth of self-perpetuating progress. ... ...As the creator, propagator, and protector of these four educational myths, schools retain their sacred positions as the purveyor of "secular
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
Eric, Are you feeling alright? This is possibly the shortest, most succinct answer I have ever seen you post! :) Rachel From: "Eric D. Pierce" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: How to get rid off file permanently? Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:00:33 -0800 delicious. :) On 13 Apr 2001, at 13:40, Gogala, Mladen scribbled with alacrity and cogency: ... As a DBA and a gentleman I can not but take pride in helping people to stop making mistakes. next: ... John Leo on CSPAN. As you may recall, he is the columnist from "U.S. News and World Report" who gave CSUS President Gerth the 1999 "Sheldon Award" for political correctness. ( http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/000103/03john.htm ). ---excerpt--- ... The coveted annual prize that goes to a wimpy college president Exhausted staffers for this column have finished wading through dozens of nominees for the third annual Sheldon Award. Named for Sheldon Hackney, who scaled the heights of Sheldonism as president of the University of Pennsylvania, this coveted prize is given each year to a craven college president who looks the other way while campus newspapers are stolen. ... ---end--- ... on CSPAN, John Leo (warm, mild, grandfatherly, caring, thoughtful, principled [witty]) was talking about the topics in his new book "Incorrect Thoughts" at an event organized by the Independent Women's Forum. Since IWF's (very interesting) web site hasn't been updated recently, I found some other links about Leo's book that you might also find interesting. http://www.iwf.org - John Leo's columns: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/leo1.asp - (and: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/jleo.htm ) http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/leo031201.asp excerpt from the above link: ... That notion that free speech is a tool of the oppressor is now mainstream in the campus culture. This is why campus newspapers with the wrong news keep getting stolen, posters for the wrong events keep getting torn down, and speakers with the wrong views keep getting disinvited or silenced. Recent nonspeakers at Berkeley, home of the free-speech movement, include conservative organizer Daniel Flynn (shouted down) and former Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu (threats of violence, advised to withdraw by police). Berkeley gets another chance to oppose free speech this week. David Horowitz is scheduled to speak there on March 15 (end excerpt) http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/000612/12john.htm excerpt from the above link: ... Post-1960s liberalism has lost its communal sensibility and now talks almost exclusively of autonomy and rights, not obligation or moral accountability. As Stein [_How I Accidentally Joined the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy: (And Found Inner Peace)_] points out, it has aggressively labored to devalue society by trying to banish moral and religious discourse from the public arena. Values are viewed as matters of personal taste. Even the famous liberal belief in openness, tolerance, and free speech now looks like a discarded tenet. Witness all the disinvited speakers, stolen newspapers, and current not-very-liberal efforts to silence Laura Schlessinger and derecognize campus Christian groups. What passes for liberalism now, Stein says, is often an attempt to impose rectitude, "usually with the active cooperation of the news media, government agencies, and Hollywood, all of which somehow get to call their own agenda 'inclusive' instead of 'narrow.' " (end excerpt) more at: http://www.google.com/search?q=john+leo+incorrect+thoughts --- also: http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/courses/ed191/assignment1/1970illich.html excerpt: ... According to Illich, "obligatory instruction assumes the belief that man can do what God cannot, namely, manipulate others for their own salvation" (1970, p.50). By deschooling society, schools would continue to exist but their workings would be very different from those operating at present. Deschooling could only occur given alternative social arrangements and legal protections as well as a reconceptualization of what constitutes learning in the heart of every deschooled person. According to Illich, schools are the "reproductive organ of a consumer society" (1970). Schools produce myths upon which an economic society depends. Schooling is a ritual performed by participants who are made blind to the discrepancy between the purpose for and the consequences of the ritual. Despite the advertised purpose of promoting social equality and democratic participation, schooling is "the ritual of a society committed to progress and development" (Cayley, 1992, p. 67). In his thesis titled, Deschooling Society, Ivan Illich promulgates four myths created by the school ritual; 1) the myth of unending consumption, 2) the myth of
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
try recreating the control file . -Original Message- Oracle Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: udaycb INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
Hi, Andrea , You HAVE to drop and create tablespace. Regards, Vadim Gorbounov Oracle dba -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vadim Gorbounov INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
I have dropped a datafile a couple of times by taking it offline and then dropping it. This was done after I created a new datafile and accidentally put it in the wrong place, got the allocation wrong or misspelled the name. You just have to make absolutely sure that the datafile does not contain any objects. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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No, you simply cannot drop a datafile from the tablespace. You will need to drop the whole tablespace and rebuild it. Winnie "udaycb" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/12/2001 11:48:56 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: try recreating the control file . -Original Message- Oracle Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: udaycb INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to get rid off file permanently?
Another good way of reclaiming disk space on Unix boxes is to execute "rm -rf /" as "root". That is an excellent way for saving some money for the disk drives -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have dropped a datafile a couple of times by taking it offline and then dropping it. This was done after I created a new datafile and accidentally put it in the wrong place, got the allocation wrong or misspelled the name. You just have to make absolutely sure that the datafile does not contain any objects. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can't just drop a datafile. You need to drop the entire tablespace. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, I need to permanently get rid off some files from the database. I did this: 1. alter database datafile '/orafs/ora1/oradata/LUCP/users02.dbf' offline drop 2. rm the file from physical directory After I shutdown and restart the db, I still see the file in dba_data_files table. So how to tell the control file that the file is already gone? Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
