Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-13 Thread Jared Still

Behave children.  ;)

No, I wasn't reading the list.  Another story...

Jared

On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:20, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 1) he's reading the list while traveling
 2)  I'm having dinner with him tonight I'll tell him

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   I disagree!  I do welcome Jeremiah's input on this list.  David, I
 
  think
  you
 
   missed the smiley attached to his message.
  
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   Jeremiah,
  
   I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just
 
  SHUT your
 
   mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.
  
  
   David
  
  
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   On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:
How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments
 
  and
  Can
 
   I
  
do it when database is online?
  
   Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
   license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
   datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
   representative and request additional power units.
  
   If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may
 
  wish
 
   to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
   Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.
  
   :-)
  
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Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-11 Thread Yechiel Adar
From bitter experience:

Do not allow your datafile to autoextend across 4GB boundary.
There is a bug that cause this datafile to be unusable.
We had an all night session after this bug hit us.
We had to call Oracle to come with the DUL utility to
recover the data.

Now we define our datafiles to be 1900MB each.
Also each tablespace has an extra datafile with 200MB size
with autoextend up to 1900MB.

Our checks check that each tablespace has datafile with 200MB size.
If not we get an alert and check the situation.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:46 AM


 David,

 As a start, look up the following commands in the SQL Reference guide:

 alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' autoextend on
maxsize 20480M;
 Read up on the implications of autoextend and whether you want it

 alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' resize 10240M;

 For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg:
 alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on
maxsize 10240M;

 You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase the max
extents of an existing one.  eg to add another rollback segment:
 CREATE PUBLIC ROLLBACK SEGMENT r09_big
TABLESPACE rollback
STORAGE
( minextents 20
  INITIAL 10M
  NEXT 10M
  MAXEXTENTS UNLIMITED)

 (you would then need to bring this online - eg alter rollback segment
r09_big online;)


 For tempfile (ie LMT temporary tablespaces):
 alter database tempfile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\TEMP1.dbf' autoextend on maxsize
10240M;

 Remember - don't use the exact sizes I've shown - alter to suit your case
(these were part of a huge load into a new test system)


 Hope this helps (and willing to learn if some of the above could be
improved).

 Regards,
 Bruce

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 8:15 AM

  From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  Alright guys, just because you know Jeremiah better than me
  so you can take
  his joke.
 I have no idea who Jeremiah is from Adam, and I got the joke. Hell, I
nearly flamed you myself, and I'm just a lowly developer.
   My apology to him as I did not recognize it was a
  joke, however
  when I am asking for help from the group, I am in a situation
  to resolve
  problem ASAP and hope to find a answer not a joke.
 The problem is that if enough people like you refuse to RTFM, then no one
will want to answer questions because it'll be duller'n your resume.
  If you were in my situation, you would understand.
 I've been in your situation, and been damned ashamed of myself for not
having researched the question first. It ain't all that hard...
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Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-11 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Yechiel Adar wrote:

 Do not allow your datafile to autoextend across 4GB boundary.
 There is a bug that cause this datafile to be unusable.

I think the 4Gb limit is confined to a handfull of older operating
system versions or older Oracle versions.  For about the last five
years I have been accustomed to creating 16Gb datafiles with no
problem.

Imagine trying to build a 5 terabyte data warehouse out of 1900Mb
datafiles!  It would require 2760 datafiles!

Can anyone confirm that this is no longer a problem after certain
versions of O/S and Oracle?

Note another mean bug (8.1.6.2 / HP-UX 64-bit) where Oracle lets you
specify no size for a datafile, then adds it to the controlfile /data
dictionary in a way that makes it look like it has a ton (like a
terabyte) of free space.  The datafile can't be resized or offline
dropped, and the tablespace must be dropped and recreated (unless you
get the patch).  Let one segment extend into there and watch the
ORA-600s.

--
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http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton

 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:46 AM
 
 
  As a start, look up the following commands in the SQL Reference guide:
 
  alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' autoextend on
 maxsize 20480M;
  Read up on the implications of autoextend and whether you want it
 
  alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' resize 10240M;
 
  For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg:
  alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on
 maxsize 10240M;
 
  You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase the max
 extents of an existing one.  eg to add another rollback segment:
  CREATE PUBLIC ROLLBACK SEGMENT r09_big
 TABLESPACE rollback
 STORAGE
 ( minextents 20
   INITIAL 10M
   NEXT 10M
   MAXEXTENTS UNLIMITED)
 
  (you would then need to bring this online - eg alter rollback segment
 r09_big online;)
 
 
  For tempfile (ie LMT temporary tablespaces):
  alter database tempfile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\TEMP1.dbf' autoextend on maxsize
 10240M;
 
  Remember - don't use the exact sizes I've shown - alter to suit your case
 (these were part of a huge load into a new test system)
 
 
  Hope this helps (and willing to learn if some of the above could be
 improved).
 
  Regards,
  Bruce
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 8:15 AM
 
   From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
   Alright guys, just because you know Jeremiah better than me
   so you can take
   his joke.
  I have no idea who Jeremiah is from Adam, and I got the joke. Hell, I
 nearly flamed you myself, and I'm just a lowly developer.
My apology to him as I did not recognize it was a
   joke, however
   when I am asking for help from the group, I am in a situation
   to resolve
   problem ASAP and hope to find a answer not a joke.
  The problem is that if enough people like you refuse to RTFM, then no one
 will want to answer questions because it'll be duller'n your resume.
   If you were in my situation, you would understand.
  I've been in your situation, and been damned ashamed of myself for not
 having researched the question first. It ain't all that hard...
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Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-11 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hello Jeremiah

I did some research on metalink and it says:

1) Do not use datafiles more then 4GB on NT systems.
2) There  is a bug on NT, W2K that if you resize datafile (direct command or
autoextend) to 4GB boundary, i.e 4,8,12, then there are two conditions:
2.1) No archive log - database crashes but you can start again and resize
the datafiles.
2.2) Archive log - restore and regenerate to a point in time prior before
the resize.
 This bug was reported also on 9.2.

The work around is to resize to 4.1, 8.1 GB datafiles.

Bug number 1668488.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:54 PM


 On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Yechiel Adar wrote:

  Do not allow your datafile to autoextend across 4GB boundary.
  There is a bug that cause this datafile to be unusable.

 I think the 4Gb limit is confined to a handfull of older operating
 system versions or older Oracle versions.  For about the last five
 years I have been accustomed to creating 16Gb datafiles with no
 problem.

 Imagine trying to build a 5 terabyte data warehouse out of 1900Mb
 datafiles!  It would require 2760 datafiles!

 Can anyone confirm that this is no longer a problem after certain
 versions of O/S and Oracle?

 Note another mean bug (8.1.6.2 / HP-UX 64-bit) where Oracle lets you
 specify no size for a datafile, then adds it to the controlfile /data
 dictionary in a way that makes it look like it has a ton (like a
 terabyte) of free space.  The datafile can't be resized or offline
 dropped, and the tablespace must be dropped and recreated (unless you
 get the patch).  Let one segment extend into there and watch the
 ORA-600s.

 --
 Jeremiah Wilton
 http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton

  - Original Message -
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:46 AM
 
 
   As a start, look up the following commands in the SQL Reference guide:
  
   alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' autoextend
on
  maxsize 20480M;
   Read up on the implications of autoextend and whether you want it
  
   alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' resize
10240M;
  
   For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg:
   alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on
  maxsize 10240M;
  
   You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase the max
  extents of an existing one.  eg to add another rollback segment:
   CREATE PUBLIC ROLLBACK SEGMENT r09_big
  TABLESPACE rollback
  STORAGE
  ( minextents 20
INITIAL 10M
NEXT 10M
MAXEXTENTS UNLIMITED)
  
   (you would then need to bring this online - eg alter rollback segment
  r09_big online;)
  
  
   For tempfile (ie LMT temporary tablespaces):
   alter database tempfile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\TEMP1.dbf' autoextend on
maxsize
  10240M;
  
   Remember - don't use the exact sizes I've shown - alter to suit your
case
  (these were part of a huge load into a new test system)
  
  
   Hope this helps (and willing to learn if some of the above could be
  improved).
  
   Regards,
   Bruce
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 8:15 AM
  
From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   
Alright guys, just because you know Jeremiah better than me
so you can take
his joke.
   I have no idea who Jeremiah is from Adam, and I got the joke. Hell, I
  nearly flamed you myself, and I'm just a lowly developer.
 My apology to him as I did not recognize it was a
joke, however
when I am asking for help from the group, I am in a situation
to resolve
problem ASAP and hope to find a answer not a joke.
   The problem is that if enough people like you refuse to RTFM, then no
one
  will want to answer questions because it'll be duller'n your resume.
If you were in my situation, you would understand.
   I've been in your situation, and been damned ashamed of myself for not
  having researched the question first. It ain't all that hard...
   --
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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-11 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
Yechiel,

Thanks for pointing out the potential issues with autoextending onto an exact 4 Gb 
boundary (as I forgot to include them).

Reading the bug you referenced (at 
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_database_id=BUGp_id=1668488)
it says:
...
Does not reproduce on 8.1.7 Sun Solaris. 
...
Rediscovery Information:  Resize a datafile file to [exactly] 4GB, 8G, 12G, 16G, etc.
After resizing a datafile to 4G, alter system checkpoint was failing with ORA-27069
...
This fix is in 8.1.7.4.1 and 9.0.1.4.0 but not in 9.2.0.2.1

I am on 8.1.7.4.5 and so am not affected by this issue - I can't remember the version 
the original poster was on.

Anyone using 817x may also want to check note 120607.1 
(http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_database_id=NOTp_id=120607.1)
titled Support Status and Alerts for Oracle8i Release 3 (8.1.7.X) for information on 
this and other issues.

This refers you to Note 148894.1 
(http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/showdoc?db=Notid=148894.1)
titled ALERT: Problems with Datafile AUTOEXTEND/RESIZE on Oracle8i on NT/2000 
Platforms

This contains the information ...  A fix is now available in 8.1.7.1.4 Bug.1823173 
and will be included in8.1.7.3 BUG.1794199 ...

For general Oracle information on 2Gb files see 
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_id=62427.1p_database_id=NOT
titled 2Gb or not 2Gb - File limits in Oracle.
This contains links to other notes with Port specific information.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Bruce Reardon


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 11:19 PM

Hello Jeremiah

I did some research on metalink and it says:

1) Do not use datafiles more then 4GB on NT systems.
2) There  is a bug on NT, W2K that if you resize datafile (direct command or
autoextend) to 4GB boundary, i.e 4,8,12, then there are two conditions:
2.1) No archive log - database crashes but you can start again and resize
the datafiles.
2.2) Archive log - restore and regenerate to a point in time prior before
the resize.
 This bug was reported also on 9.2.

The work around is to resize to 4.1, 8.1 GB datafiles.

Bug number 1668488.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:54 PM


 On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Yechiel Adar wrote:

  Do not allow your datafile to autoextend across 4GB boundary.
  There is a bug that cause this datafile to be unusable.

 I think the 4Gb limit is confined to a handfull of older operating
 system versions or older Oracle versions.  For about the last five
 years I have been accustomed to creating 16Gb datafiles with no
 problem.

 Imagine trying to build a 5 terabyte data warehouse out of 1900Mb
 datafiles!  It would require 2760 datafiles!

 Can anyone confirm that this is no longer a problem after certain
 versions of O/S and Oracle?

 Note another mean bug (8.1.6.2 / HP-UX 64-bit) where Oracle lets you
 specify no size for a datafile, then adds it to the controlfile /data
 dictionary in a way that makes it look like it has a ton (like a
 terabyte) of free space.  The datafile can't be resized or offline
 dropped, and the tablespace must be dropped and recreated (unless you
 get the patch).  Let one segment extend into there and watch the
 ORA-600s.

 --
 Jeremiah Wilton
 http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton

  - Original Message -
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 2:46 AM
 
 
   As a start, look up the following commands in the SQL Reference guide:
  
   alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' autoextend
on
  maxsize 20480M;
   Read up on the implications of autoextend and whether you want it
  
   alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' resize
10240M;
  
   For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg:
   alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on
  maxsize 10240M;
  
   You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase the max
  extents of an existing one.  eg to add another rollback segment:
   CREATE PUBLIC ROLLBACK SEGMENT r09_big
  TABLESPACE rollback
  STORAGE
  ( minextents 20
INITIAL 10M
NEXT 10M
MAXEXTENTS UNLIMITED)
  
   (you would then need to bring this online - eg alter rollback segment
  r09_big online;)
  
  
   For tempfile (ie LMT temporary tablespaces):
   alter database tempfile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\TEMP1.dbf' autoextend on
maxsize
  10240M;
  
   Remember - don't use the exact sizes I've shown - alter to suit your
case
  (these were part of a huge load into a new test system)
  
  
   Hope this helps (and willing to learn if some of the above could be
  improved).
  
   Regards,
   Bruce
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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Nguyen, David M
Jeremiah,

I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just SHUT your
mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.


David


-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:

 How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can
I
 do it when database is online?

Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
representative and request additional power units.

If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.

:-)

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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Henry Poras
David,

If my three year old said that, he'd be on the step immediately. Jeremiah
has helped a lot of people on this list. The point is that you need to take
a certain amount of responsibility to do some research before posting a
question (i.e. metalink, tahiti.com, ...). Also, all answers should be
checked out. All obvious points (I hope). Now please take a deep breath and
try again.

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Jeremiah,

I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just SHUT your
mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.


David


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On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:

 How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can
I
 do it when database is online?

Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
representative and request additional power units.

If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.

:-)

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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments





I disagree! I do welcome Jeremiah's input on this list. David, I think you missed the smiley attached to his message.


-Original Message-
From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments



Jeremiah,


I am seeking for help. If you are not willing to help then just SHUT your
mouth. I don't think we welcome such people like you here.



David



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On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:


 How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can
I
 do it when database is online?


Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
license with Oracle Corp. If you need to increase the size of your
datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
representative and request additional power units.


If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.


:-)


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Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Ruth Gramolini
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 I disagree!  I do welcome Jeremiah's input on this list.  David, I think
you
 missed the smiley attached to his message.

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 Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:50 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Jeremiah,

 I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just SHUT your
 mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.


 David


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:

  How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and
Can
 I
  do it when database is online?

 Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
 license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
 datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
 representative and request additional power units.

 If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
 to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
 Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.

 :-)

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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments





What bothers me is why can't you use sqlplus? Why do you need GUI tool?


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David,


If my three year old said that, he'd be on the step immediately. Jeremiah
has helped a lot of people on this list. The point is that you need to take
a certain amount of responsibility to do some research before posting a
question (i.e. metalink, tahiti.com, ...). Also, all answers should be
checked out. All obvious points (I hope). Now please take a deep breath and
try again.


Henry



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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Jeremiah,


I am seeking for help. If you are not willing to help then just SHUT your
mouth. I don't think we welcome such people like you here.



David



-Original Message-
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:


 How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can
I
 do it when database is online?


Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
license with Oracle Corp. If you need to increase the size of your
datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
representative and request additional power units.


If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.


:-)


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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Richard Ji
Speak for yourself, man.  I think the type of people we don't welcome
here is those who don't bother to read a doc on something as trivial as
how to increase the size of datafile and can't take a joke.

Richard

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Jeremiah,

I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just SHUT your
mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.


David


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On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:

 How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can
I
 do it when database is online?

Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
representative and request additional power units.

If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.

:-)

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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments



Au 
contraire, I welcome Jeremiah just about anywhere, as long as he doesn't drink 
too much of my beer.

Read 
between the lines, David.There's a message there. 
:)

--Walt 
Weaver
 
Bozeman, Montana

  -Original Message- From: 
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  Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments 
  
  Jeremiah, 
  I am seeking for help. If you are not willing to help 
  then just SHUT your mouth. I don't think we 
  welcome such people like you here. 
  David 
  -Original Message- Sent: 
  Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: 
   How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback 
  segments and Can I  do it 
  when database is online? 
  Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level 
  of license with Oracle Corp. If you need to 
  increase the size of your datafiles or rollback 
  segments, you must contact your Oracle sales representative and request additional power units. 
  If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you 
  may wish to upgrade to a more sophisticated database 
  system such as MS SQL Server or Filemaker Pro, both of 
  which allow dynamic resizing. 
  :-) 
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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Rachel Carmichael
David,

Wrong. we very much welcome Jeremiah here. He has helped countless
people on this list, and if he on occasion chooses to make a joke (as
do we all), then so be it.

He was a good deal gentler and nicer than my first thought, which was
to tell you to read the fine manual before asking basic questions.

Many of us spend a LOT of time on this list, helping others. It is very
discouraging though to continually get questions that can be answered
by a very simple read of the manuals. I suggest that in the future, you
attempt to investigate a problem yourself before asking a question.
Besides the fact that you will learn much more by doing your own
research, you will not annoy the members of the list who try to help.

Rachel
--- Nguyen, David M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jeremiah,
 
 I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just SHUT
 your
 mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.
 
 
 David
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:
 
  How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments
 and Can
 I
  do it when database is online?
 
 Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
 license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
 datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
 representative and request additional power units.
 
 If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may
 wish
 to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
 Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.
 
 :-)
 
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Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Rachel Carmichael
1) he's reading the list while traveling
2)  I'm having dinner with him tonight I'll tell him

:)

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  I disagree!  I do welcome Jeremiah's input on this list.  David, I
 think
 you
  missed the smiley attached to his message.
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:50 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Jeremiah,
 
  I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just
 SHUT your
  mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.
 
 
  David
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:
 
   How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments
 and
 Can
  I
   do it when database is online?
 
  Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
  license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
  datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
  representative and request additional power units.
 
  If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may
 wish
  to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
  Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.
 
  :-)
 
  --
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  http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
 
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Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Yechiel Adar
I welcome David input always, especially when he is yanking the leg of
someone who did not troubled himself to open the SQL manual and look at
obvious commands like alter rollback segment and alter tablespace.

I liked his answer.

BTW, Please do not tell ANYONE on this list to shut up.
It is bad behavior and, believe me, you need those guys the same as me.

Yechiel Adar
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 Jeremiah,

 I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just SHUT your
 mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.


 David


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 Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:

  How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and
Can
 I
  do it when database is online?

 Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
 license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
 datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
 representative and request additional power units.

 If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
 to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
 Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.

 :-)

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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments





ORACLE ORACLE ORACLE ORACLE SQL*NET


Just bringing it back on topic :) 


Nick


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1) he's reading the list while traveling
2) I'm having dinner with him tonight I'll tell him


:)


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  I disagree! I do welcome Jeremiah's input on this list. David, I
 think
 you
  missed the smiley attached to his message.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Jeremiah,
 
  I am seeking for help. If you are not willing to help then just
 SHUT your
  mouth. I don't think we welcome such people like you here.
 
 
  David
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM
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  On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:
 
   How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments
 and
 Can
  I
   do it when database is online?
 
  Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
  license with Oracle Corp. If you need to increase the size of your
  datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
  representative and request additional power units.
 
  If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may
 wish
  to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
  Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.
 
  :-)
 
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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Stephane Paquette
Walt,

Your french is pretty good !

 --- Weaver, Walt [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : 
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 I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to
 help then just SHUT your 
 mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like
 you here. 
 
 
 David 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: 
 
  How do I increase size of oracle data files and
 rollback segments and Can 
 I 
  do it when database is online? 
 
 Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on
 your level of 
 license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase
 the size of your 
 datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact
 your Oracle sales 
 representative and request additional power units. 
 
 If you find that you run in a dynamic enough
 environment, you may wish 
 to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system
 such as MS SQL 
 Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic
 resizing. 
 
 :-) 
 
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Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Thanks, I had to drop off the Lazy DBA list because of all the sniping.  I
would hate to have to drop off Jared's list too.
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 1) he's reading the list while traveling
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 :)

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  Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:15 PM
 
 
   I disagree!  I do welcome Jeremiah's input on this list.  David, I
  think
  you
   missed the smiley attached to his message.
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:50 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   Jeremiah,
  
   I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just
  SHUT your
   mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.
  
  
   David
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:
  
How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments
  and
  Can
   I
do it when database is online?
  
   Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
   license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
   datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
   representative and request additional power units.
  
   If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may
  wish
   to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
   Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.
  
   :-)
  
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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Nguyen, David M
Alright guys, just because you know Jeremiah better than me so you can take
his joke.  My apology to him as I did not recognize it was a joke, however
when I am asking for help from the group, I am in a situation to resolve
problem ASAP and hope to find a answer not a joke.

If you were in my situation, you would understand.



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Thanks, I had to drop off the Lazy DBA list because of all the sniping.  I
would hate to have to drop off Jared's list too.
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 1) he's reading the list while traveling
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 :)

 --- Ruth Gramolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  gets
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:15 PM
 
 
   I disagree!  I do welcome Jeremiah's input on this list.  David, I
  think
  you
   missed the smiley attached to his message.
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:50 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   Jeremiah,
  
   I am seeking for help.  If you are not willing to help then just
  SHUT your
   mouth.  I don't think we welcome such people like you here.
  
  
   David
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:
  
How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments
  and
  Can
   I
do it when database is online?
  
   Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
   license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
   datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
   representative and request additional power units.
  
   If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may
  wish
   to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
   Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.
  
   :-)
  
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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Jeremy Pulcifer
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments





 From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Alright guys, just because you know Jeremiah better than me 
 so you can take
 his joke.


I have no idea who Jeremiah is from Adam, and I got the joke. Hell, I nearly flamed you myself, and I'm just a lowly developer.

 My apology to him as I did not recognize it was a 
 joke, however
 when I am asking for help from the group, I am in a situation 
 to resolve
 problem ASAP and hope to find a answer not a joke.


The problem is that if enough people like you refuse to RTFM, then no one will want to answer questions because it'll be duller'n your resume.

 If you were in my situation, you would understand.


I've been in your situation, and been damned ashamed of myself for not having researched the question first. It ain't all that hard...




RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
David,

As a start, look up the following commands in the SQL Reference guide:

alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' autoextend on maxsize 
20480M;
Read up on the implications of autoextend and whether you want it

alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' resize 10240M;

For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg:
alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on maxsize 10240M;

You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase the max extents of an 
existing one.  eg to add another rollback segment:
CREATE PUBLIC ROLLBACK SEGMENT r09_big
   TABLESPACE rollback
   STORAGE
   ( minextents 20
 INITIAL 10M
 NEXT 10M
 MAXEXTENTS UNLIMITED)

(you would then need to bring this online - eg alter rollback segment r09_big 
online;)


For tempfile (ie LMT temporary tablespaces):
alter database tempfile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\TEMP1.dbf' autoextend on maxsize 10240M;

Remember - don't use the exact sizes I've shown - alter to suit your case (these were 
part of a huge load into a new test system)


Hope this helps (and willing to learn if some of the above could be improved).

Regards,
Bruce

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 8:15 AM

 From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 
 Alright guys, just because you know Jeremiah better than me 
 so you can take 
 his joke. 
I have no idea who Jeremiah is from Adam, and I got the joke. Hell, I nearly flamed 
you myself, and I'm just a lowly developer.
  My apology to him as I did not recognize it was a 
 joke, however 
 when I am asking for help from the group, I am in a situation 
 to resolve 
 problem ASAP and hope to find a answer not a joke. 
The problem is that if enough people like you refuse to RTFM, then no one will want to 
answer questions because it'll be duller'n your resume.
 If you were in my situation, you would understand. 
I've been in your situation, and been damned ashamed of myself for not having 
researched the question first. It ain't all that hard...
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RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Khedr, Waleed



http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/A87860_01/doc/server.817/a76956/dfiles.htm

  -Original Message-From: Nguyen, David M 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:24 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Increase size of data files and rollback segments
  How do I increase size of oracle data 
  files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is 
  online?
  
  Thanks,David
  

  


Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-09 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:

 How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I
 do it when database is online?

Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
representative and request additional power units.

If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.

:-)

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Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-09 Thread orafaq
A cruel joke Jeremy!

BTW may be you can help me out here. I am not receiving back any of the
messages I send to the the list and I do not know if list is receiving my
messages either.

Do you know how to solve this problem?

Thanks in advance
Shaleen Garg
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 On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:

  How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and
Can I
  do it when database is online?

 Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of
 license with Oracle Corp.  If you need to increase the size of your
 datafiles or rollback segments, you must contact your Oracle sales
 representative and request additional power units.

 If you find that you run in a dynamic enough environment, you may wish
 to upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL
 Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic resizing.

 :-)

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