Re: intermedia text and dbms_job problem

2003-10-08 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
bill
this is a bug..infact it was happening in 8i and oracle said they will try to fix in 9i.
u have to call the procedure in the ur job and embed the sync index in ur procedure.
here is a snippet.u can try this way.

create or replace procedure i_doc_sync 
 is 
 begin 
 ctx_ddl.sync_index( idx_name = 'prb_title'); 
 end; 

declare 
 v_job number; 
 begin 
 dbms_job.submit( job=v_job, what='i_doc_sync;', next_date=sysdate, interval='sysdate+1/24'); 
 end; 

that should work
saiBill Tantzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, I know I must be doing something wrong, would somebody please pointout what it is? I would like to set up a job to sync an intermedia textindex. Here is my job:SQL select what from all_jobs where job = 2;WHAT-ctx_ddl.sync_index ( 'ctx_xml_text' );I can execute the procedute from the command line like so:SQL execute ctx_ddl.sync_index ( 'ctx_xml_text' );PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.But the job itself fails:SQL execute dbms_job.run ( 2 );BEGIN dbms_job.run ( 2 ); END;*ERROR at line 1:ORA-12011: execution of 1 jobs failedORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_IJOB", line 405ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JOB", line 267ORA-06512: at line 1in my init.ora I have:job_queue_processes = 4job_queue_interval = 60!
I am
 in the ctxapp role, and ctxsys has granted me execute on ctx_ddl.The only other job works just fine.OS=Solaris, Version=8.1.7What the heck is going on?Thanks in advance,BillBill Tantzen University of Minnesota Libraries[EMAIL PROTECTED]612-626-9949 (office) 612-250-6125 (cell)I guess the man's a genius, but whata dirty mind he has, hasn't he? -- Nora Joyce-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: Bill TantzenINET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message!
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RE: intermedia text and dbms_job problem

2003-10-08 Thread Bill Tantzen
Title: Message



Sai,

Thank 
you so very much! It worked perfectly!!!

Bill
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Libraries[EMAIL PROTECTED]612-626-9949 (office) 612-250-6125 
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  SelvaganesanSent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:19 PMTo: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: intermedia text 
  and dbms_job problem
  bill
  this is a bug..infact it was happening in 8i 
  and oracle said they will try to fix in 9i.
  u have to call the procedure in the ur job and embed the sync index in ur 
  procedure.
  here is a snippet.u can try this way.
  
  create or 
  replace procedure i_doc_sync 
   is 
  
   begin 
  
   
  ctx_ddl.sync_index( idx_name = 'prb_title'); 
  
   end; 
  
  
  declare 
   v_job 
  number; 
   begin 
  
   
  dbms_job.submit( job=v_job, what='i_doc_sync;', 
  next_date=sysdate, interval='sysdate+1/24'); 
  
   end; 
  
  
  that should work
  sai


RE: Intermedia tag problem

2003-03-28 Thread Hitchman, Peter
Hi,
You will have to change your input data and replace the  with lt;.
This is one of the standard 5 XML entity references. Really you need to make
sure that you have no double quotes, single quotes, less than , greater than
or ampersands in your data and if you do replace then with the appropriate
entity reference:

 - amp;
 - quot;
' - apos;
 - lt;
 - gt;

Regards

Pete

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Hi Gurus,

We are working with Intermedia Text 8.1.6.
We created a intermedia index on a search field.  We
also created 2 sections in this field.

Table name : S01
Filed name : S01_search
Sections name : SY,MAN

Here is an example of data in this field:
SYCyane/SYMANPhibro Energy  */MAN
This example works fine.  

But we have a problem when there is a  character in
the data. 

Intermedia thinks it's a new tag and tries to find a
section but it cannot.
Exemple:
SYCyane  10 /SYMANPhibro Energy  */MAN

Question :  
1- Should we do something with the  in our data ?

TIA 
Luc



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RE: Intermedia tag problem

2003-03-28 Thread Luc Demanche

Thank you Peter and Jan.

Luc
--- Hitchman, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi,
 You will have to change your input data and replace
 the  with lt;.
 This is one of the standard 5 XML entity references.
 Really you need to make
 sure that you have no double quotes, single quotes,
 less than , greater than
 or ampersands in your data and if you do replace
 then with the appropriate
 entity reference:
 
  - amp;
  - quot;
 ' - apos;
  - lt;
  - gt;
 
 Regards
 
 Pete
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 28 March 2003 14:34
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hi Gurus,
 
 We are working with Intermedia Text 8.1.6.
 We created a intermedia index on a search field.  We
 also created 2 sections in this field.
 
 Table name : S01
 Filed name : S01_search
 Sections name : SY,MAN
 
 Here is an example of data in this field:
 SYCyane/SYMANPhibro Energy  */MAN
 This example works fine.  
 
 But we have a problem when there is a  character
 in
 the data. 
 
 Intermedia thinks it's a new tag and tries to find a
 section but it cannot.
 Exemple:
 SYCyane  10 /SYMANPhibro Energy  */MAN
 
 Question :  
 1- Should we do something with the  in our data ?
 
 TIA 
 Luc
 
 
 
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Re: interMedia Textkey (DRG-10826)

2003-02-12 Thread Gary Chambers
All...

slapping hand to forehead STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!!

 Will someone please help me understand the Textkey parameter in the
 ctx_doc.themes function?  I am receiving a DRG-10826 error on:

I withdraw my question -- I was looking at it MANY layers too deeply,
and absolutely overlooked the braindead obvious.  Sorry for the noise.

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Re: interMedia Text

2002-08-12 Thread Hemant K Chitale


As you are running 8.1.7 you should not need the extproc_connection_data
entry.  What you need is that the LD_LIBRARY_PATH includes $ORACLE_HOME/ctx/lib
in the environment *before* you start the Listener.
The listener.ora entries are the regular entries for the database SIDs.

Hemant

At 03:48 AM 12-08-02 -0800, you wrote:
Dear List,
We have :- Solaris SunOs 5.8, Oracle 8.1.7
I have created three databases using the dbassist tool and I included, as
one of the installation options, InterMedia.
Having read the installation guides (including post installation for Oracle
InterMedia) and the Oracle interMedia Text - 8.1.5 Overview  Post
Installation Setup I have the following questions :-
1) Having amended the listener.ora and tnsnames.ora files I'm not sure
if I have done this correctly because the Post Installation Setup refers
to adding ONE entry (for extproc_connection_data) in the tnsnames.ora file
for A database.
But I have three, so I have entered this SID specific info. three times, is
this correct ?
2) Having amended the listener.ora file to contain three extra entries is
this correct ?
3) I remember one of the NET8 classes I took, where the instructor insisted
that we amend these files with great caution and in particular to the layout
of entries. e.g. the number of spaces etc. etc. Well the new entries I added
don't conform exactly to the already existing entries, here is a snip of my
listener.ora file
SID_LIST_LISTENER   (SID_LIST (SID_DESC   (SID_NAME LSExtProc)
   (ORACLE_HOME u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7)
   (PROGRAM xtproc)
 )
 (SID_DESC   (GLOBAL_DBNAME ATREP)
   (ORACLE_HOME u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7)
   (SID_NAME ATREP)
 )
 (SID_DESC   (GLOBAL_DBNAME QPROD01)
   (ORACLE_HOME u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7)
   (SID_NAME QPROD01)
 )
 (SID_DESC   (GLOBAL_DBNAME QTEST01)
   (ORACLE_HOME u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7)
   (SID_NAME QTEST01)
 )
  (SID_DESC SID_NAME p_agt1)
 (ORACLE_HOME u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7)
 (ENVS D_LIBRARY_PATH01/app/oracle/product/8.1
7/ctx/lib)
 (PROGRAM xtproc)
 )
 (SID_DESC SID_NAME p_agt2)
 (ORACLE_HOME u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7)
 (ENVS D_LIBRARY_PATH01/app/oracle/product/8.1
7/ctx/lib)
 (PROGRAM xtproc)
 )
 (SID_DESC SID_NAME p_agt3)
 (ORACLE_HOME u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7)
 (ENVS D_LIBRARY_PATH01/app/oracle/product/8.1
7/ctx/lib)
 (PROGRAM xtproc)
 )
   )
You can see that the SID_DESC entries layout are slightly different that
those earlier, is this OK?

Thanks in advance, and sorry in advance if any of the above questions are
dumb, but I'm a bit stuck on this!

best regards,

Ron

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RE: Intermedia Indexing

2002-04-26 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Hemant,

The 8.1.6 docs (no change to this in the 8.1.7 addendum) say that only PDF
1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 formats are supported by the interMedia Text filters.

We index plain text and HTML documents (about 3 million per month) and have
had zero errors for the last two years.  We're currently on 8.1.7.3.0 under
Win2k.

Jack

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Hi,
We have an Oracle iFS installation and have enabled Intermedia.

Some documents fail indexing with Status 1 or Status 2 errors.
The documents are PDF (pdf 1.3), Excel, World and HTM documents.

I do have a TAR open with Support.  Just would like to know from
the field  how successful is Intermedia in indexing documents ?
Are there any gotchas ?

Oracle8i 8.1.7.3 on Solaris for iFS9.0.1

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd



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RE: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?

2001-10-05 Thread Martin Kendall

Jack,

Thanks for your time on this.  Most revealing and useful for what I have
ahead of me

Kind regards from the UK.

Martin

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Martin,

We use interMedia Text to index and query up to about 10-15 million CLOB
documents (up to 5KB each).  We're on 8.1.6.0.0 under Win2k - 2 550MHz CPUs,
2GB RAM, 18 36GB drives.

Because a domain index cannot be partitioned, we have the documents spread
across 5 tables (on 6 drives).  One is a 2 partition table (each partition
on its own drive) containing the current two months of docs, the other 4
hold the 4 prior months' docs.  We can query the entire 6 months of docs via
a Union View on them - even Contains() queries work fine on this view.

When we add a new month's partition, the prior month's partition gets turned
into a table (segment exchange).  The interMedia Text indexes on the
partitioned table and the new prior month are rebuilt.

Lately we've been getting about 3.5 million docs/month and the index rebuild
takes about 7 hours - that's 7 hrs. for the index on the prior month and 7
more hours for the index on the partitioned table, which only contains one
month of docs at that point.

Since we're adding docs every day, we sync the interMedia index every
morning.  Last night we added about 200,000 docs and it took about 3 hours
for the index to resync.  We don't use ctxsrv, but use CTX_DDL.Sync_Index.

When we get over about 4.5 million docs in a table, the resync really slows
down.  The in-memory part still happens at about 150 docs/sec, but when
interMedia writes to disk it slows down a bunch.  What took 3 hours today
will take 10 hours in a couple of weeks.

That's why I plan on spreading the DR$$I segment across multiple drives by
spreading the datafiles of its tablespace across those drives.

BTW, that brings up some performance points - be sure you cache the DR$$R
segment (use CACHE not CACHE READS, due to bugs in Oracle):

  Alter Table DR$YourIndexName$R Modify LOB (Data) (Cache) ;

Also ensure that your LOBs are out-of-line and stored in their own
segment(s) on drive(s) separate from the regular data.  Make sure that
your I_TABLE_CLAUSE, R_TABLE_CLAUSE, and I_INDEX_CLAUSE all specify
tablespaces on their own drives to spread the I/O out even further.  We're
getting 2GB more RAM on a new server, so I plan on caching the 900MB DR$$X
segment, which is the index on the DR$$I token table.

I've learned a lot about how interMedia Text processes different kinds of
queries by watching disk I/O on Win2k's Performance Monitor while I issue
various flavors.  Our folks use lots of complex query terms with heavy use
of the Stemmer.  I've gotten them to switch from using tons of ORs to using
the Equivalence operator and we're getting much better results using NEAR
than simple ANDs.  Performance is very good, with CONTAINS queries returning
results in less than a second for terms that are rare in the docs, up to a
minute for terms that are common in lots (e.g. hundreds of thousands) of
docs.

If you're going to do synonym searches, you'd better start looking for a
good thesaurus - the one Oracle ships is pretty limited.  We've not found a
good one for the technical lingo our docs contain, so we don't do ABOUT
queries at this time.

Get familiar with CTX_Query.Explain, it will help you understand things like
what the Stemmer *really* does and how complex queries are parsed.

Hope this helps.

Jack


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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:00 AM
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Hello all,

Although I have installed Intermedia as part of my general DBA duties before
I have not experienced any particular requirements on throughput rate or
indexing.

I need some information on being able to deal with large volumes of product
data (e.g. 1 million products in a retail application) and be able to
perform 'intelligent' searches against the metadata (things like
typographical error matching, synonyms etc.) as well as the more usual
parametric search (i.e. advanced search page with lots of metadata specific
fields).

Indexing time and max throughput are also of interest.

Any data based on experience would be appreciated.

Thanks

Martin

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RE: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?

2001-10-05 Thread Mario Alberto Ramos Arellano

Excellent doc.

I just wonder if there are only cache related bugs on using interMedia.

Mario Alberto Ramos

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/01 16:47 
Martin,

We use interMedia Text to index and query up to about 10-15 million CLOB
documents (up to 5KB each).  We're on 8.1.6.0.0 under Win2k - 2 550MHz CPUs,
2GB RAM, 18 36GB drives.

Because a domain index cannot be partitioned, we have the documents spread
across 5 tables (on 6 drives).  One is a 2 partition table (each partition
on its own drive) containing the current two months of docs, the other 4
hold the 4 prior months' docs.  We can query the entire 6 months of docs via
a Union View on them - even Contains() queries work fine on this view.

When we add a new month's partition, the prior month's partition gets turned
into a table (segment exchange).  The interMedia Text indexes on the
partitioned table and the new prior month are rebuilt.

Lately we've been getting about 3.5 million docs/month and the index rebuild
takes about 7 hours - that's 7 hrs. for the index on the prior month and 7
more hours for the index on the partitioned table, which only contains one
month of docs at that point.

Since we're adding docs every day, we sync the interMedia index every
morning.  Last night we added about 200,000 docs and it took about 3 hours
for the index to resync.  We don't use ctxsrv, but use CTX_DDL.Sync_Index.

When we get over about 4.5 million docs in a table, the resync really slows
down.  The in-memory part still happens at about 150 docs/sec, but when
interMedia writes to disk it slows down a bunch.  What took 3 hours today
will take 10 hours in a couple of weeks.

That's why I plan on spreading the DR$$I segment across multiple drives by
spreading the datafiles of its tablespace across those drives.

BTW, that brings up some performance points - be sure you cache the DR$$R
segment (use CACHE not CACHE READS, due to bugs in Oracle):

  Alter Table DR$YourIndexName$R Modify LOB (Data) (Cache) ;

Also ensure that your LOBs are out-of-line and stored in their own
segment(s) on drive(s) separate from the regular data.  Make sure that
your I_TABLE_CLAUSE, R_TABLE_CLAUSE, and I_INDEX_CLAUSE all specify
tablespaces on their own drives to spread the I/O out even further.  We're
getting 2GB more RAM on a new server, so I plan on caching the 900MB DR$$X
segment, which is the index on the DR$$I token table.

I've learned a lot about how interMedia Text processes different kinds of
queries by watching disk I/O on Win2k's Performance Monitor while I issue
various flavors.  Our folks use lots of complex query terms with heavy use
of the Stemmer.  I've gotten them to switch from using tons of ORs to using
the Equivalence operator and we're getting much better results using NEAR
than simple ANDs.  Performance is very good, with CONTAINS queries returning
results in less than a second for terms that are rare in the docs, up to a
minute for terms that are common in lots (e.g. hundreds of thousands) of
docs.

If you're going to do synonym searches, you'd better start looking for a
good thesaurus - the one Oracle ships is pretty limited.  We've not found a
good one for the technical lingo our docs contain, so we don't do ABOUT
queries at this time.

Get familiar with CTX_Query.Explain, it will help you understand things like
what the Stemmer *really* does and how complex queries are parsed.

Hope this helps.

Jack


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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello all,

Although I have installed Intermedia as part of my general DBA duties before
I have not experienced any particular requirements on throughput rate or
indexing.

I need some information on being able to deal with large volumes of product
data (e.g. 1 million products in a retail application) and be able to
perform 'intelligent' searches against the metadata (things like
typographical error matching, synonyms etc.) as well as the more usual
parametric search (i.e. advanced search page with lots of metadata specific
fields).

Indexing time and max throughput are also of interest.

Any data based on experience would be appreciated.

Thanks

Martin

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RE: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?

2001-10-04 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?





Hi Martin, 


I've had to implement intermedia in the past. with 1 million records intermedia will do the job in an acceptable amount of time. 

However, when testing it I found that the more advanced features I used (fuzzy, etc.) the worse performance became. It works well if you are doing a straightforward search. 

I also found there were problems with creating the library on HP/UX (part of the install). I had to create it manually. 

There are also tricks for indexing more than one column in one index. The documentation says you can't, but it can be done. I know there are people on the list that have done this. 

I didn't run any formal benchmarks. We had indexed ~6million records on long fields (like description) and performance was directly related to how selective the keywords were. 

Indexing time - If I remember right, creating one index on one of these description columns ran in ~2 hours. I also batched my updates. (I didn't run ctxsrv) The index ended up being ~1.5GB. 

Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions, I'll try and answer them. 


Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Administrator
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
954-935-4117



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Subject: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?


Hello all,


Although I have installed Intermedia as part of my general DBA duties before
I have 
not experienced any particular requirements on throughput rate or indexing.


I need some information on being able to deal with large volumes of product
data (e.g. 1 million products in a retail application) and be able to
perform 'intelligent' searches against the metadata (things like
typographical error matching, synonyms etc.) as well as the more usual
parametric search (i.e. advanced search page with lots of metadata specific
fields). 


Indexing time and max throughput are also of interest.


Any data based on experience would be appreciated.


Thanks


Martin
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RE: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?

2001-10-04 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Martin,

We use interMedia Text to index and query up to about 10-15 million CLOB
documents (up to 5KB each).  We're on 8.1.6.0.0 under Win2k - 2 550MHz CPUs,
2GB RAM, 18 36GB drives.

Because a domain index cannot be partitioned, we have the documents spread
across 5 tables (on 6 drives).  One is a 2 partition table (each partition
on its own drive) containing the current two months of docs, the other 4
hold the 4 prior months' docs.  We can query the entire 6 months of docs via
a Union View on them - even Contains() queries work fine on this view.

When we add a new month's partition, the prior month's partition gets turned
into a table (segment exchange).  The interMedia Text indexes on the
partitioned table and the new prior month are rebuilt.

Lately we've been getting about 3.5 million docs/month and the index rebuild
takes about 7 hours - that's 7 hrs. for the index on the prior month and 7
more hours for the index on the partitioned table, which only contains one
month of docs at that point.

Since we're adding docs every day, we sync the interMedia index every
morning.  Last night we added about 200,000 docs and it took about 3 hours
for the index to resync.  We don't use ctxsrv, but use CTX_DDL.Sync_Index.

When we get over about 4.5 million docs in a table, the resync really slows
down.  The in-memory part still happens at about 150 docs/sec, but when
interMedia writes to disk it slows down a bunch.  What took 3 hours today
will take 10 hours in a couple of weeks.

That's why I plan on spreading the DR$$I segment across multiple drives by
spreading the datafiles of its tablespace across those drives.

BTW, that brings up some performance points - be sure you cache the DR$$R
segment (use CACHE not CACHE READS, due to bugs in Oracle):

  Alter Table DR$YourIndexName$R Modify LOB (Data) (Cache) ;

Also ensure that your LOBs are out-of-line and stored in their own
segment(s) on drive(s) separate from the regular data.  Make sure that
your I_TABLE_CLAUSE, R_TABLE_CLAUSE, and I_INDEX_CLAUSE all specify
tablespaces on their own drives to spread the I/O out even further.  We're
getting 2GB more RAM on a new server, so I plan on caching the 900MB DR$$X
segment, which is the index on the DR$$I token table.

I've learned a lot about how interMedia Text processes different kinds of
queries by watching disk I/O on Win2k's Performance Monitor while I issue
various flavors.  Our folks use lots of complex query terms with heavy use
of the Stemmer.  I've gotten them to switch from using tons of ORs to using
the Equivalence operator and we're getting much better results using NEAR
than simple ANDs.  Performance is very good, with CONTAINS queries returning
results in less than a second for terms that are rare in the docs, up to a
minute for terms that are common in lots (e.g. hundreds of thousands) of
docs.

If you're going to do synonym searches, you'd better start looking for a
good thesaurus - the one Oracle ships is pretty limited.  We've not found a
good one for the technical lingo our docs contain, so we don't do ABOUT
queries at this time.

Get familiar with CTX_Query.Explain, it will help you understand things like
what the Stemmer *really* does and how complex queries are parsed.

Hope this helps.

Jack


Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator/Developer
OCP Oracle8 DBA
iNetProfit, Inc.
Austin, Texas
www.iNetProfit.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(512)327-9068


-Original Message-
Kendall
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello all,

Although I have installed Intermedia as part of my general DBA duties before
I have not experienced any particular requirements on throughput rate or
indexing.

I need some information on being able to deal with large volumes of product
data (e.g. 1 million products in a retail application) and be able to
perform 'intelligent' searches against the metadata (things like
typographical error matching, synonyms etc.) as well as the more usual
parametric search (i.e. advanced search page with lots of metadata specific
fields).

Indexing time and max throughput are also of interest.

Any data based on experience would be appreciated.

Thanks

Martin

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RE: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?

2001-10-04 Thread Mohan, Ross

*excellent* post. thanks.

Anyone out there put the indexes and tables on solid state disk? They
have ssd up to about 10G and higher, I hearjust curious, not trying
to invoke a global listserv discussion on how it can't work or wouldn't
be worth it, especially on microsoft platforms, etc. 

It would be neat to hear about an InterMedia indexing miracle. This really
neat tool just sounds WAAY to slow to scale at this point, which answers
a pet question of mine. (Something like Why do services like 'Ask Jeeves' 
suck so hard?)

In Love and Peas, 

etc. 

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:47 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Martin,

We use interMedia Text to index and query up to about 10-15 million CLOB
documents (up to 5KB each).  We're on 8.1.6.0.0 under Win2k - 2 550MHz CPUs,
2GB RAM, 18 36GB drives.

Because a domain index cannot be partitioned, we have the documents spread
across 5 tables (on 6 drives).  One is a 2 partition table (each partition
on its own drive) containing the current two months of docs, the other 4
hold the 4 prior months' docs.  We can query the entire 6 months of docs via
a Union View on them - even Contains() queries work fine on this view.

When we add a new month's partition, the prior month's partition gets turned
into a table (segment exchange).  The interMedia Text indexes on the
partitioned table and the new prior month are rebuilt.

Lately we've been getting about 3.5 million docs/month and the index rebuild
takes about 7 hours - that's 7 hrs. for the index on the prior month and 7
more hours for the index on the partitioned table, which only contains one
month of docs at that point.

Since we're adding docs every day, we sync the interMedia index every
morning.  Last night we added about 200,000 docs and it took about 3 hours
for the index to resync.  We don't use ctxsrv, but use CTX_DDL.Sync_Index.

When we get over about 4.5 million docs in a table, the resync really slows
down.  The in-memory part still happens at about 150 docs/sec, but when
interMedia writes to disk it slows down a bunch.  What took 3 hours today
will take 10 hours in a couple of weeks.

That's why I plan on spreading the DR$$I segment across multiple drives by
spreading the datafiles of its tablespace across those drives.

BTW, that brings up some performance points - be sure you cache the DR$$R
segment (use CACHE not CACHE READS, due to bugs in Oracle):

  Alter Table DR$YourIndexName$R Modify LOB (Data) (Cache) ;

Also ensure that your LOBs are out-of-line and stored in their own
segment(s) on drive(s) separate from the regular data.  Make sure that
your I_TABLE_CLAUSE, R_TABLE_CLAUSE, and I_INDEX_CLAUSE all specify
tablespaces on their own drives to spread the I/O out even further.  We're
getting 2GB more RAM on a new server, so I plan on caching the 900MB DR$$X
segment, which is the index on the DR$$I token table.

I've learned a lot about how interMedia Text processes different kinds of
queries by watching disk I/O on Win2k's Performance Monitor while I issue
various flavors.  Our folks use lots of complex query terms with heavy use
of the Stemmer.  I've gotten them to switch from using tons of ORs to using
the Equivalence operator and we're getting much better results using NEAR
than simple ANDs.  Performance is very good, with CONTAINS queries returning
results in less than a second for terms that are rare in the docs, up to a
minute for terms that are common in lots (e.g. hundreds of thousands) of
docs.

If you're going to do synonym searches, you'd better start looking for a
good thesaurus - the one Oracle ships is pretty limited.  We've not found a
good one for the technical lingo our docs contain, so we don't do ABOUT
queries at this time.

Get familiar with CTX_Query.Explain, it will help you understand things like
what the Stemmer *really* does and how complex queries are parsed.

Hope this helps.

Jack


Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator/Developer
OCP Oracle8 DBA
iNetProfit, Inc.
Austin, Texas
www.iNetProfit.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(512)327-9068


-Original Message-
Kendall
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello all,

Although I have installed Intermedia as part of my general DBA duties before
I have not experienced any particular requirements on throughput rate or
indexing.

I need some information on being able to deal with large volumes of product
data (e.g. 1 million products in a retail application) and be able to
perform 'intelligent' searches against the metadata (things like
typographical error matching, synonyms etc.) as well as the more usual
parametric search (i.e. advanced search page with lots of metadata specific
fields).

Indexing time and max throughput are also of interest.

Any data based on experience would be appreciated.

Thanks

Martin

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RE: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?

2001-10-04 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Ross,

I disagree that interMedia Text is way too slow to scale.  Our experience
has convinced us that I/O bottlenecks are the main performance killers with
large interMedia Text indexes.  The problem is that it takes some experience
to find out how this special kind of index is structured (6 or 8 separate
table and index segments per index) and how it behaves.  As usual, the
Oracle docs are pitifully inadequate - you've gotta search through TechNet
and MetaLink for details and bug workarounds (like CACHE instead of CACHE
READS for DR$$R).

Caching the DR$$R segment helped immensely and I can see that when pieces
of the DR$$X index are cached, queries with terms in those pieces are
lightening fast.  I am betting that when I spread the DR$$I table across
multiple drives, instead of the single drive ours is currently on, we'll see
much better performance of NEAR queries (which depend on the word position
info. there), as well as faster index resyncs.

In 9i Domain Indexes become partitionable, so I'm looking forward (in about
a year - experiences with 6.0, 7.0, 8.0 and 8.1.5 have made me wary) to
putting our 6 (or more) months of docs into one partitoned table.  There may
be other I/O distributing kinds of enhancements by then, as well.  For sure
I'll have explored every trick I can think of!   ;-)

With more drives and a bit more RAM, I think we can handle 10 million docs
per month (60 million total online), even on our lil' ol' Win2k box.  That's
just x3 to x4 of what we do now.

Jack


Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator/Developer
OCP Oracle8 DBA
iNetProfit, Inc.
Austin, Texas
www.iNetProfit.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:36 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


*excellent* post. thanks.

Anyone out there put the indexes and tables on solid state disk? They
have ssd up to about 10G and higher, I hearjust curious, not trying
to invoke a global listserv discussion on how it can't work or wouldn't
be worth it, especially on microsoft platforms, etc.

It would be neat to hear about an InterMedia indexing miracle. This really
neat tool just sounds WAAY to slow to scale at this point, which answers
a pet question of mine. (Something like Why do services like 'Ask Jeeves'
suck so hard?)

In Love and Peas,

etc.


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RE: Intermedia Performance Benchmarks anyone ?

2001-10-04 Thread Christopher Spence

 I looked into SSD, they are like $15-17k / gb.  Very expensive.
And with Oracle buffering, I would expect the performance wouldn't be huge.
There were some solutions that were like $2500 for a 1 gb, but they were not
sharable between machines in a cluster.

-Original Message-
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: 10/4/01 6:35 PM

*excellent* post. thanks.

Anyone out there put the indexes and tables on solid state disk? They
have ssd up to about 10G and higher, I hearjust curious, not trying
to invoke a global listserv discussion on how it can't work or
wouldn't
be worth it, especially on microsoft platforms, etc. 

It would be neat to hear about an InterMedia indexing miracle. This
really
neat tool just sounds WAAY to slow to scale at this point, which
answers
a pet question of mine. (Something like Why do services like 'Ask
Jeeves' 
suck so hard?)

In Love and Peas, 

etc. 

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:47 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Martin,

We use interMedia Text to index and query up to about 10-15 million CLOB
documents (up to 5KB each).  We're on 8.1.6.0.0 under Win2k - 2 550MHz
CPUs,
2GB RAM, 18 36GB drives.

Because a domain index cannot be partitioned, we have the documents
spread
across 5 tables (on 6 drives).  One is a 2 partition table (each
partition
on its own drive) containing the current two months of docs, the other 4
hold the 4 prior months' docs.  We can query the entire 6 months of docs
via
a Union View on them - even Contains() queries work fine on this view.

When we add a new month's partition, the prior month's partition gets
turned
into a table (segment exchange).  The interMedia Text indexes on the
partitioned table and the new prior month are rebuilt.

Lately we've been getting about 3.5 million docs/month and the index
rebuild
takes about 7 hours - that's 7 hrs. for the index on the prior month and
7
more hours for the index on the partitioned table, which only contains
one
month of docs at that point.

Since we're adding docs every day, we sync the interMedia index every
morning.  Last night we added about 200,000 docs and it took about 3
hours
for the index to resync.  We don't use ctxsrv, but use
CTX_DDL.Sync_Index.

When we get over about 4.5 million docs in a table, the resync really
slows
down.  The in-memory part still happens at about 150 docs/sec, but when
interMedia writes to disk it slows down a bunch.  What took 3 hours
today
will take 10 hours in a couple of weeks.

That's why I plan on spreading the DR$$I segment across multiple
drives by
spreading the datafiles of its tablespace across those drives.

BTW, that brings up some performance points - be sure you cache the
DR$$R
segment (use CACHE not CACHE READS, due to bugs in Oracle):

  Alter Table DR$YourIndexName$R Modify LOB (Data) (Cache) ;

Also ensure that your LOBs are out-of-line and stored in their own
segment(s) on drive(s) separate from the regular data.  Make sure that
your I_TABLE_CLAUSE, R_TABLE_CLAUSE, and I_INDEX_CLAUSE all specify
tablespaces on their own drives to spread the I/O out even further.
We're
getting 2GB more RAM on a new server, so I plan on caching the 900MB
DR$$X
segment, which is the index on the DR$$I token table.

I've learned a lot about how interMedia Text processes different kinds
of
queries by watching disk I/O on Win2k's Performance Monitor while I
issue
various flavors.  Our folks use lots of complex query terms with heavy
use
of the Stemmer.  I've gotten them to switch from using tons of ORs to
using
the Equivalence operator and we're getting much better results using
NEAR
than simple ANDs.  Performance is very good, with CONTAINS queries
returning
results in less than a second for terms that are rare in the docs, up to
a
minute for terms that are common in lots (e.g. hundreds of thousands) of
docs.

If you're going to do synonym searches, you'd better start looking for a
good thesaurus - the one Oracle ships is pretty limited.  We've not
found a
good one for the technical lingo our docs contain, so we don't do ABOUT
queries at this time.

Get familiar with CTX_Query.Explain, it will help you understand things
like
what the Stemmer *really* does and how complex queries are parsed.

Hope this helps.

Jack


Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator/Developer
OCP Oracle8 DBA
iNetProfit, Inc.
Austin, Texas
www.iNetProfit.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(512)327-9068


-Original Message-
Kendall
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello all,

Although I have installed Intermedia as part of my general DBA duties
before
I have not experienced any particular requirements on throughput rate or
indexing.

I need some information on being able to deal with large volumes of
product
data (e.g. 1 million products in a retail application) and be able to
perform 'intelligent' searches against the metadata (things like
typographical 

RE: Intermedia question

2001-09-23 Thread Long . Nguyen


Thanks Maria and Martin for your answers. I prefer the Intermeida option than the IFS 
option since IFS requires a big server to run and relatively new, where Intermedia 
(formerly Context) has been there for a number of years. I would need
to do some reading re. Intermedia and BFILE.

Thanks
Long 

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi Maria,

IFS would involve scanning the whole document whereas Intermedia allows
for indexing the documents.



-Original Message-
Sent: 21 September 2001 10:40
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


yes, its possible.
although, from my experience indexing a bfile takes a lot longer than
indexing a blob...
and why not try using IFS for this?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good day,

 I have an application that has many documents (Word, Excel, pdf, email
etc) stored on a Solaris file system. I want to be able to search the
contents of those document. Is it possible to create some tables in the
database that has BFILE
 columns that reference those documents outside the database and use
InterMedia to do searching?

 I am not familiar with LOBs and Intermedia, that's why I ask this basic
question.

 Thanks
 Long
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Re: Intermedia question

2001-09-21 Thread Maria Aurora VT de la Vega

yes, its possible.
although, from my experience indexing a bfile takes a lot longer than indexing a 
blob...
and why not try using IFS for this?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good day,

 I have an application that has many documents (Word, Excel, pdf, email etc) stored 
on a Solaris file system. I want to be able to search the contents of those document. 
Is it possible to create some tables in the database that has BFILE
 columns that reference those documents outside the database and use InterMedia to do 
searching?

 I am not familiar with LOBs and Intermedia, that's why I ask this basic question.

 Thanks
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RE: Intermedia question

2001-09-21 Thread Martin Kendall

Hi Maria,

IFS would involve scanning the whole document whereas Intermedia allows
for indexing the documents.



-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


yes, its possible.
although, from my experience indexing a bfile takes a lot longer than
indexing a blob...
and why not try using IFS for this?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good day,

 I have an application that has many documents (Word, Excel, pdf, email
etc) stored on a Solaris file system. I want to be able to search the
contents of those document. Is it possible to create some tables in the
database that has BFILE
 columns that reference those documents outside the database and use
InterMedia to do searching?

 I am not familiar with LOBs and Intermedia, that's why I ask this basic
question.

 Thanks
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RE: Intermedia Questions, Any Gurus on This Subject?

2001-06-19 Thread Hatzistavrou Giannis

There is a wealth of docs regarding this issue in OTN
also check

http://www.oracle.com/products/intermedia

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 1.  Storage clause of an intermedia index build.  How
 to specify the buffer pool to KEEP or CACHE the index?
 
 2.  How to specify the tablespace for such a DOMAIN
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RE: Intermedia Questions, Any Gurus on This Subject?

2001-06-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Intermedia Questions, Any Gurus on This Subject?





Hi Vicky, 


You need to create a preference to define the storage clause with CTX_DDL. I did this at a former employer and I don't have the scripts handy, sorry to say. The documentation does go over this in detail. You can specify just about everything for storage of your imt index in the preference. You can even put the separate pieces of the index in separate ts's. Buffer pool though, I'm not sure. See below a cutout from the doco.

Specifying Storage Attributes


The following examples specify that the index tables are to be created in the foo tablespace with an initial extent of 1K:

begin
ctx_ddl.create_preference('mystore', 'BASIC_STORAGE');
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('mystore', 'I_TABLE_CLAUSE',
'tablespace foo storage (initial 1K)'); 
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('mystore', 'K_TABLE_CLAUSE',
'tablespace foo storage (initial 1K)'); 
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('mystore', 'R_TABLE_CLAUSE',
'tablespace foo storage (initial 1K)'); 
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('mystore', 'N_TABLE_CLAUSE',
'tablespace foo storage (initial 1K)'); 
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('mystore', 'I_INDEX_CLAUSE',
'tablespace foo storage (initial 1K)'); 
end;


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Help anybody, version 8.1.6.3 on UNIX


1. Storage clause of an intermedia index build. How
to specify the buffer pool to KEEP or CACHE the index?


2. How to specify the tablespace for such a DOMAIN
index. When put in tablespace clause, says its invalid
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Re: Intermedia Questions, Any Gurus on This Subject?

2001-06-19 Thread Mike J Kurth


You need to create preferences to specify storage parameters like:

begin
ctx_ddl.create_preference('storage_small','BASIC_STORAGE');
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('storage_small','I_TABLE_CLAUSE','tablespace 
LOBADM_01_SMALL_DATA');
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('storage_small','K_TABLE_CLAUSE','tablespace 
LOBADM_01_SMALL_DATA');
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('storage_small','R_TABLE_CLAUSE','tablespace 
LOBADM_01_SMALL_DATA');
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('storage_small','N_TABLE_CLAUSE','tablespace 
LOBADM_01_SMALL_DATA');
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('storage_small','I_INDEX_CLAUSE','tablespace 
LOBADM_01_SMALL_INDX');
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('storage_small','P_TABLE_CLAUSE','tablespace 
LOBADM_01_SMALL_DATA');
end;
/

Then create index like:

create index lobadm.client_full_nm_indx on lobadm.client(full_nm)
indextype is ctxsys.context
parameters('storage lobadm.storage_small')
/

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RE: Intermedia

2001-05-16 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Intermedia





Hi Gary, 


This is what happened. A regular install would not succeed with the CREATE INDEX statement. I put a call in to support. Lucky for me I got a knowledgeable woman on the phone who knew exactly what the problem was. 

The libraries could not be created when $ORACLE_HOME was referenced in the install scripts. I had to hard-code the library name with the value for $ORACLE_HOME. Now that I look through my script, that was the only thing that got hosed. After I made that change everything was fine. 

Hope this helps someone...
Have a great day all ! 


** cr_ctxsys.sql


spool cr_ctxsys.log 


@$ORACLE_HOME/ctx/admin/dr0csys.sql ctxsys drsys temp


connect ctxsys/ctxsys
@$ORACLE_HOME/ctx/admin/dr0inst.sql $ORACLE_HOME/ctx/lib/libctxx8.sl


prompt Check install


select library_name,file_spec,dynamic,status from user_libraries;



prompt Set US default preferences
@$ORACLE_HOME/ctx/admin/defaults/drdefus.sql


create or replace library DR$LIBX as 
'/oracle/dbserver/8.1.6/ctx/lib/libctxx8.sl'
/


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Lisa,


I just went through Intermedia install on HPUX 11 and Ora 8.1.6 (32 bit)
with no apparent problems. Been able to create Intermedia indexes and all is
working well. Could you share what problems you've encountered?


Thanks,


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Bryan,


What O/S are you on? I had specific problems with the intermedia install on
HP/UX that required some changes in the install procedure, per support. I
have a few scripts - if you would like me to send them to you, please email
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Does anyone have instructions or know where to find concise instructions on
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RE: Intermedia

2001-05-14 Thread Gary Weber

Lisa,

I just went through Intermedia install on HPUX 11 and Ora 8.1.6 (32 bit)
with no apparent problems. Been able to create Intermedia indexes and all is
working well. Could you share what problems you've encountered?

Thanks,

Gary Weber

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What O/S are you on?  I had specific problems with the intermedia install on
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have a few scripts - if you would like me to send them to you, please email
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Re: Intermedia

2001-05-11 Thread A. Bardeen

Bryan,

A good start is Note: 101493.1 QUICK START GUIDE:
InterMedia Text Installation

There are others on metalink:

Technical Libraries button
  Server - Oracle interMedia Text and ConText Option

HTH,

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RE: Intermedia

2001-05-11 Thread Srinagesh Battula

To install Intermedia as a separate product, the db has to be shutdown for
oracle exe to be relinked
Once the Intermedia product has been installed, the following steps must be
performed to configure it as shown below.

How to configure Intermedia?

Create the CTXSYS tablespace

create tablespace ctxsys datafile '/u02/oradata/dev/ctxsys01.dbf' size 100M
autoextend on next 100M maxsize 1000M;


export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$ORACLE_HOME/ctx/lib
548:oracle@devdb pwd
/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/ctx/admin


As sys run @dr0csys.sql ctxsys ctxsys temp

As ctxsys @dr0inst.sql /u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/ctx/lib/libctxx8.so

As ctxsys
select object_type, count(*) from user_objects group by object_type;
select * from user_libraries ;
@?/ctx/admin/defaults/drdefus.sql


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Re: intermedia?

2001-04-23 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi,

the documentation for Oracle Intermedia (formerly ConText) is included
in the Oracle server's documentation set. If you don't have it available
yet, take a look at technet.oracle.com. There you can find all
documentation sets online.

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RE: Intermedia text table design

2001-04-06 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Ranganath,

You've defaulted to in-line storage of CLOBs.  You could
specify "Disable Storage In Row" and point the CLOBs to
different tablespaces, thus spreading your I/O out over more
drives.  You can also define a custom Basic_Storage
interMedia parameter, by which you spread out the 5 or 6
segment types of an interMedia index on different
tablespaces.

See Chapter 7 in "Oracle8i Application Developer's Guide -
Large Objects (LOBs)" for details on LOB storage and the
"Oracle8i interMedia Text Reference" for details on indexing
parameters.

Jack


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Dear DBA Gurus,

I have given below the procedure as how we are creating the
tables,
preference and indexing for the same. Could you please check
if there is any
other preference need to be set for CLOB Datatypes which I
missed?
...

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Re: Intermedia Domain index and tablespace

2001-03-15 Thread Marin Dimitrov





take a look at the "Specifying 
Storage Attributes" section of 
http://technet.oracle.com/doc/inter.815/a67843/cddlpkg.htm#16740

there is an example for creating a storage preference for the 
index and assigning different components of the domain index to different 
tablespaces.

after u have set the preferences up u'll have to create the 
index with something like:

===create indexAAA on BBB.CCC(DDD) 

indextype is ctxsys.context
parameters ('filter ctxsys.EEE
   
storage FFF');




hth,

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12:55
  Subject: Intermedia Domain index and 
  tablespace
  
  
  Dear list !
  I'm creating an Intermedia 
  domain index , and i want to build the index ( and related DR$... tables and 
  indexes) ina specific tablespace , say IM_TBS .
  Although i can not specify the 
  TABLESPACE attribute directly , when building a domain index , right 
  ?
  So , how can i do it 
  ?
  
  This is the create index 
  statement i use 
  CREATE INDEXmytab_idx1 ONmytab( 
  bcontent ) 
  INDEXTYPE IS ctxsys.context;Thanks a lot in advance 
  .


RE: Intermedia Domain index and tablespace

2001-03-15 Thread Koivu, Lisa



You need 
to create preferences and specify them in your create index statement. 
This is all in the documentation, by the way. Also, this does not affect 
your IOT storage parms. You will have to modify those separately or you 
will blow maxextents as your index grows.
Here's 
what mine look like
exec 
ctxsys.ctx_ddl.create_preference('product_storage','BASIC_STORAGE');
exec 
ctxsys.ctx_ddl.set_attribute('product_storage','I_TABLE_CLAUSE','tablespace 
ctx_idx_a storage (initial 100m next 100m)');
exec 
ctxsys.ctx_ddl.set_attribute('product_storage','K_TABLE_CLAUSE','tablespace 
ctx_idx_a storage (initial 100m next 100m)');
. etc 
.
And 
here's how I use it
create indexx onq.table(search_string)
indextype is 
ctxsys.context
parameters (
'lexer product_pref
storage 
product_storage
datastore 
product_datastore'
)
/
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  -Original Message-From: andrey 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 5:45 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Intermedia Domain index and tablespace
  
  Dear list !
  I'm creating an Intermedia 
  domain index , and i want to build the index ( and related DR$... tables and 
  indexes) ina specific tablespace , say IM_TBS .
  Although i can not specify the 
  TABLESPACE attribute directly , when building a domain index , right 
  ?
  So , how can i do it 
  ?
  
  This is the create index 
  statement i use 
  CREATE INDEXmytab_idx1 ONmytab( 
  bcontent ) 
  INDEXTYPE IS ctxsys.context;Thanks a lot in advance 
  .


RE: Intermedia Domain index and tablespace

2001-03-15 Thread Steve Orr



I've 
done this and it works well.
Steve 
Orr

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marin DimitrovSent: 
  Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:43 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Intermedia Domain index and 
  tablespace
  
  
  take a look at the "Specifying 
  Storage Attributes" section of 
  http://technet.oracle.com/doc/inter.815/a67843/cddlpkg.htm#16740
  
  there is an example for creating a storage preference for 
  the index and assigning different components of the domain index to different 
  tablespaces.
  
  after u have set the preferences up u'll have to create the 
  index with something like:
  
  ===create indexAAA on BBB.CCC(DDD) 
  
  indextype is ctxsys.context
  parameters ('filter ctxsys.EEE

   storage FFF');
  
  
  
  
  hth,
  
   Marin
  "When someone is seeking, it happens quite easily that he 
  only sees the thing that he is seeking; that he is unable to find 
  anything, unable to absorb anything, because he is only thinking of the 
  thing he is seeking,because he is obsessed with his goal. Seeking means: 
  to have a goal; but finding means: to be free, to be receptive, to have no 
  goal. ..." 
  
   
  Herman Hesse, "Siddhartha"
  
  
  
  
  
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From: 
andrey 
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 
12:55
Subject: Intermedia Domain index and 
tablespace


Dear list !
I'm creating an Intermedia 
domain index , and i want to build the index ( and related DR$... tables and 
indexes) ina specific tablespace , say IM_TBS .
Although i can not specify 
the TABLESPACE attribute directly , when building a domain index , right 
?
So , how can i do it 
?

This is the create index 
statement i use 
CREATE INDEXmytab_idx1 ONmytab( 
bcontent ) 
INDEXTYPE IS ctxsys.context;Thanks a lot in advance 
.


RE: Intermedia Domain index and tablespace

2001-03-15 Thread Jack C. Applewhite



Andrey,

You're 
right in that you cannot explicitly name the tablespace(s) in the Create Index 
statement. However, you can put the various (5 or 6 segments in all) 
pieces of an InterMedia Text index in different tablespaces by creating a 
Basic_Storage parameter, with suitable attributes. Your statement below 
would then have an additional clause such as:

Parameters ('Datastore CtxSys.My_Direct_Datastore 
Storage CtxSys.My_Basic_Storage Memory 5000') ;

That 
directs InterMedia to create the index according to the Attributes you define in 
My_Direct_Datastore and My_Basic_Storage. The Memory 5000 part tells 
InterMedia to use about 50MB of RAM to do the sorting, etc. required to build 
the index. Make this as big as you can, since it is the key to fast index 
creation - that is, if the table is large and already 
exists.

See 
the chapter on Indexing (chapter 3 for Oracle 8.1.6) in the "Oracle8i interMedia 
Text Reference" for all the details.

Hope 
this helps you.

Jack
Jack C. 
ApplewhiteDatabase Administrator/DeveloperOCP Oracle8 DBAiNetProfit, 
Inc.Austin, 
Texaswww.iNetProfit.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of andreySent: Thursday, 
  March 15, 2001 4:56 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Intermedia Domain index and 
  tablespace
  
  Dear list !
  I'm creating an Intermedia 
  domain index , and i want to build the index ( and related DR$... tables and 
  indexes) ina specific tablespace , say IM_TBS .
  Although i can not specify the 
  TABLESPACE attribute directly , when building a domain index , right 
  ?
  So , how can i do it 
  ?
  
  This is the create index 
  statement i use 
  CREATE INDEXmytab_idx1 ONmytab( 
  bcontent ) 
  INDEXTYPE IS ctxsys.context;Thanks a lot in advance 
  .