RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
no chance of me getting to either Cary, I am in the UK and our training/seminar budget isn't exactly huge at the moment :-) Regards Lee -Original Message- Sent: 11 September 2002 16:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lee, Just to prevent any confusion: We are having a Hotsos Clinic this December in Hawaii, but February's Symposium event is only in Dallas. :) Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic, Oct 1-3 San Francisco, Oct 15-17 Dallas, Dec 9-11 Honolulu - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas - Next event: Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middelfart Denmark -Original Message- Lee - lerobe Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:13 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime (actually no matter where it was ). Regards Lee -Original Message- Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose. Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too. -Original Message- ] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332 http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpag e=ca l nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists ** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cary Millsap INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime (actually no matter where it was ). Regards Lee -Original Message- Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose. Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too. -Original Message- ] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332 http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=ca l nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists ** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
I think it depends on whose hand you have to shake as you enter the conference... (sorry - thats a little bit of an in joke) Cheers Connor --- Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime (actually no matter where it was ). Regards Lee -Original Message- Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose. Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too. -Original Message- ] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332 http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=ca l nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists ** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). = Connor McDonald http://www.oracledba.co.uk http://www.oaktable.net Remember amateurs built the ark - Professionals built the Titanic __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: =?iso-8859-1?q?Connor=20McDonald?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
care to elaborate -Original Message- Sent: 11 September 2002 09:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it depends on whose hand you have to shake as you enter the conference... (sorry - thats a little bit of an in joke) Cheers Connor --- Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime (actually no matter where it was ). Regards Lee -Original Message- Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose. Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too. -Original Message- ] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332 http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=ca l nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists ** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). = Connor McDonald http://www.oracledba.co.uk http://www.oaktable.net Remember amateurs built the ark - Professionals built the Titanic __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: =?iso-8859-1?q?Connor=20McDonald?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
Lee, Just to prevent any confusion: We are having a Hotsos Clinic this December in Hawaii, but February's Symposium event is only in Dallas. :) Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic, Oct 1-3 San Francisco, Oct 15-17 Dallas, Dec 9-11 Honolulu - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas - Next event: Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middelfart Denmark -Original Message- Lee - lerobe Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:13 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime (actually no matter where it was ). Regards Lee -Original Message- Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose. Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too. -Original Message- ] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332 http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpag e=ca l nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists ** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cary Millsap INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
If I remember correctly from the OT list it better be a male hand. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:48 AM I think it depends on whose hand you have to shake as you enter the conference... (sorry - thats a little bit of an in joke) Cheers Connor --- Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime (actually no matter where it was ). Regards Lee -Original Message- Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose. Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too. -Original Message- ] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332 http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=ca l nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists ** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). = Connor McDonald http://www.oracledba.co.uk http://www.oaktable.net Remember amateurs built the ark - Professionals built the Titanic __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: =?iso-8859-1?q?Connor=20McDonald?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing
Re: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
Depends on what you are looking for. The Hotsos Seminar will be strictly tuning, will be very intense on that, will not have vendors The IOUG conference will have a vendor hall, will have a much wider variety of presentations on all topics It's sort of like deciding between a meal at a buffet, where you get only a taste of a lot of things, or having a regular dinner, where you get a larger portion of something you want. --- Yechiel Adar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
Title: RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose. Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too. -Original Message- From: Yechiel Adar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
Given that you will probably see Anjo, Cary, Tom and potentially Gaja, at the event, I would recommend IOUG Live! Reason 1: Significantly more presentations Reason 2: More opportunities to network with other people in your position Reason 3: Greater opportunity to share your stories Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Product Architect Compuware Corporation Direct: (248) 865-4350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.compuware.com -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Karniotis, Stephen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
Are we taking votes? From what Cary/Gaja/Anjo/Tom etc have contributed so far on list, I'd say Hotsos. Hey Cary, when are you planning to present in the Washington DC area? mkb --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose. Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: mkb INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
I don't think you can really compare them. I haven't been to a HOTSOS seminar, but it is in depth tuning of Oracle. IOUG is a smorgasboard of Oracle topics and an excellent networking opportunity. Jared Yechiel Adar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/2002 07:23 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
Yechiel, Just to clarify... There are actually two different event types here that I think Jared might have blended together in his response. 1. The Hotsos Clinic is a 3-day course, taught by Jeff Holt and me, dedicated to the single purpose of teaching Oracle performance problem diagnosis and repair. This is the thing scheduled for SF and Dallas in October, and Honolulu in December. 2. The first annual Hotsos Symposium will be held Feb in Dallas. This event is a conference dedicated to Oracle performance, with several internationally acclaimed Oracle performance experts (Tom Kyte, Jonathan Lewis, Anjo, Gaja, James Morle, etc.) on the agenda. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic, Oct 1-3 San Francisco, Oct 15-17 Dallas, Dec 9-11 Honolulu - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas - Next event: Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middelfart Denmark -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't think you can really compare them. I haven't been to a HOTSOS seminar, but it is in depth tuning of Oracle. IOUG is a smorgasboard of Oracle topics and an excellent networking opportunity. Jared Yechiel Adar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/2002 07:23 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage =cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cary Millsap INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
Goto Both -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Johnson, Michael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar
I stand (sit?) corrected... the Hotsos Seminar will have vendors. Possibly a more selective list of vendors, but there will be vendors there. --- Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on what you are looking for. The Hotsos Seminar will be strictly tuning, will be very intense on that, will not have vendors The IOUG conference will have a vendor hall, will have a much wider variety of presentations on all topics It's sort of like deciding between a meal at a buffet, where you get only a taste of a lot of things, or having a regular dinner, where you get a larger portion of something you want. --- Yechiel Adar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February 2003. The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/ I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you recommended going. http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332nextpage=cal lpapersconference_id=71 MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring for one of the two. Which one you recommend? Yechiel Adar Mehish -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
