RE: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology
Hi Sean, Me too I'm interested into your evaluation methodology. Thanks, Kader --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello Sean, > > Would you mind sending me your evaluation? I'm in > the process of performing > a tool evaluation also, and this material would be > invaluable. > > > Thanks, > > Todd > > > > > > "O'Neill, Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on > 11/29/2002 05:34:00 AM > > Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > > > > > > Hi there, > > If you are interested I can send you a word > document which I used to select > and evaluate an Oracle monitoring tool solution > which might be useful for > adapting to your needs. We're an NT/W2K site. > > BTW, we choose Quest I/Watch as our solution. Did > not come across eHurkha > product during our evaluation. > > HTH, > - > Seán O' Neill > Organon (Ireland) Ltd. > [subscribed: digest mode] > > > > >>From: VIVEK_SHARMA > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 5:44 PM > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >>Subject: Monitoring Tool Evaluation > methodology > >> > >> > >>We are evaluating a monitoring Tool (eGurkha) for > Unix/NT/Oracle > monitoring > >> > >>What features should be Looked into while > Evaluating ? > >>Are there any Best practices for doing this kind > of Evaluation ? > >>Any Comments on this tool in particular by any who > might have used this > >>tool ? > >> > >>etc.. > > This message, including attached files, may contain > confidential > information and is intended only for the use by the > individual > and/or the entity to which it is addressed. Any > unauthorized use, > dissemination of, or copying of the information > contained herein is > not allowed and may lead to irreparable harm and > damage for which > you may be held liable. If you receive this message > in error or if > it is intended for someone else please notify the > sender by > returning this e-mail immediately and delete the > message. > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: O'Neill, Sean > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web > hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information > (like subscribing). > > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kader Ben INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology
Hello Sean, Would you mind sending me your evaluation? I'm in the process of performing a tool evaluation also, and this material would be invaluable. Thanks, Todd "O'Neill, Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/29/2002 05:34:00 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Hi there, If you are interested I can send you a word document which I used to select and evaluate an Oracle monitoring tool solution which might be useful for adapting to your needs. We're an NT/W2K site. BTW, we choose Quest I/Watch as our solution. Did not come across eHurkha product during our evaluation. HTH, - Seán O' Neill Organon (Ireland) Ltd. [subscribed: digest mode] >>From: VIVEK_SHARMA [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 5:44 PM >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>Subject: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology >> >> >>We are evaluating a monitoring Tool (eGurkha) for Unix/NT/Oracle monitoring >> >>What features should be Looked into while Evaluating ? >>Are there any Best practices for doing this kind of Evaluation ? >>Any Comments on this tool in particular by any who might have used this >>tool ? >> >>etc.. This message, including attached files, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the use by the individual and/or the entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of, or copying of the information contained herein is not allowed and may lead to irreparable harm and damage for which you may be held liable. If you receive this message in error or if it is intended for someone else please notify the sender by returning this e-mail immediately and delete the message. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology
Hi there, If you are interested I can send you a word document which I used to select and evaluate an Oracle monitoring tool solution which might be useful for adapting to your needs. We're an NT/W2K site. BTW, we choose Quest I/Watch as our solution. Did not come across eHurkha product during our evaluation. HTH, - Seán O' Neill Organon (Ireland) Ltd. [subscribed: digest mode] >>From: VIVEK_SHARMA [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 5:44 PM >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>Subject: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology >> >> >>We are evaluating a monitoring Tool (eGurkha) for Unix/NT/Oracle monitoring >> >>What features should be Looked into while Evaluating ? >>Are there any Best practices for doing this kind of Evaluation ? >>Any Comments on this tool in particular by any who might have used this >>tool ? >> >>etc.. This message, including attached files, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the use by the individual and/or the entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of, or copying of the information contained herein is not allowed and may lead to irreparable harm and damage for which you may be held liable. If you receive this message in error or if it is intended for someone else please notify the sender by returning this e-mail immediately and delete the message. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology
What versions of Oracle are you using? I am proposing de-installing PATROL at our work place (It is the same one I took pride in installing and supporting a few years ago). Got tired of : The "next release" will support all the new features (LMTs, partitioning etc). But all these are currently in use, and so databases using those are taken out PATROL's care ! - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 1:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L eGurkha ? Why don't companies do more DD before naming products ? The Gurkhas were special forces in the British Army, trained to DESTROY and DEMOLISH ! So, is this an electronic version of it (eGurkha) ? Not likely to score points with the Brits for installing this on their systems eh ? Toyota made a similar blunder with their MR2 in Spain, France and Portugal (pronounce the letters MR2 in any of these languages, and it sounds like Toyota Merda , yes ?). On the serious side, look at how much memory this occupies. I just came back from an engagement where BMC PAtrol was installed on a W2K server, and it consumed 900 MB of REAL memory to give a bunch of mostly meaningless information (but oh so impressive), not a pretty picture. Another thing to do is when the vendor explains all the wonderful features of what it is supposed to do, make sure you have a large shovel nearby. Then again, I have been wrong before (and not ashamed to admit it). Ferenc Mantfeld -Original Message- From: VIVEK_SHARMA [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 5:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology We are evaluating a monitoring Tool (eGurkha) for Unix/NT/Oracle monitoring What features should be Looked into while Evaluating ? Are there any Best practices for doing this kind of Evaluation ? Any Comments on this tool in particular by any who might have used this tool ? eGurkha Monitoring Tool has the following Features :- Operating System (NT / Unix) CPU Utilization Pattern (Includes multi CPU support) Memory / Swap / Paging pattern Disk IO pattern per Partition Process Limits and Monitor Daemon processes Network Ports in use Packets Traffic Errors / Retries Congestion, Network Delays DATABASE Status - Up / Down Tablespace monitoring Datafile monitoring Locks monitoring Session monitoring Rollback Segment Monitoring Memory structures monitoring Sort Efficiency monitoring Redo Log Monitoring Oracle processes monitoring - CPU , Memory Utilized -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: VIVEK_SHARMA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology
Hi Ferenc > Why don't companies do more DD before naming products ? The Gurkhas were > special forces in the British Army, trained to DESTROY and DEMOLISH ! So, > is this an electronic version of it (eGurkha) ? Not likely to score points > with the Brits for installing this on their systems eh ? Not at all - quite the reverse in fact. The Gurkha regiment still exists and is highly respected in the UK. The Gurkha regiment is renowned for its toughness, loyalty and tenacity. Regards Dale --- The Freeware DBATool: The easy way to generate the DDL re-creation scripts for your Oracle database + DDL to HTML conversion for instant documentation. http://www.DataBee.com/dt_home.htm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology
eGurkha ? Why don't companies do more DD before naming products ? The Gurkhas were special forces in the British Army, trained to DESTROY and DEMOLISH ! So, is this an electronic version of it (eGurkha) ? Not likely to score points with the Brits for installing this on their systems eh ? Toyota made a similar blunder with their MR2 in Spain, France and Portugal (pronounce the letters MR2 in any of these languages, and it sounds like Toyota Merda , yes ?). On the serious side, look at how much memory this occupies. I just came back from an engagement where BMC PAtrol was installed on a W2K server, and it consumed 900 MB of REAL memory to give a bunch of mostly meaningless information (but oh so impressive), not a pretty picture. Another thing to do is when the vendor explains all the wonderful features of what it is supposed to do, make sure you have a large shovel nearby. Then again, I have been wrong before (and not ashamed to admit it). Ferenc Mantfeld -Original Message- From: VIVEK_SHARMA [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 5:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Monitoring Tool Evaluation methodology We are evaluating a monitoring Tool (eGurkha) for Unix/NT/Oracle monitoring What features should be Looked into while Evaluating ? Are there any Best practices for doing this kind of Evaluation ? Any Comments on this tool in particular by any who might have used this tool ? eGurkha Monitoring Tool has the following Features :- Operating System (NT / Unix) CPU Utilization Pattern (Includes multi CPU support) Memory / Swap / Paging pattern Disk IO pattern per Partition Process Limits and Monitor Daemon processes Network Ports in use Packets Traffic Errors / Retries Congestion, Network Delays DATABASE Status - Up / Down Tablespace monitoring Datafile monitoring Locks monitoring Session monitoring Rollback Segment Monitoring Memory structures monitoring Sort Efficiency monitoring Redo Log Monitoring Oracle processes monitoring - CPU , Memory Utilized -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: VIVEK_SHARMA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: mantfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
