RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Ramon E. Estevez
What about this

SELECT 'CREATE TABLE NEWUSER.'||TABLE_NAME ||' TABLESPACE NEWTBS AS
SELECT * FROM '||TABLE_NAME ||';'
FROM USER_TABLES
 WHERE
TABLE_NAME LIKE 'ABC_%'
/

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I need to move selected tables from one schema to another schema within
the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
Ron
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
something like ...

set feed off
set echo off
set pages 0

select 'alter table '||table_name||' move tablespace NEW_TS;'
from user_tables
where table_name like 'ABC_%'

spool move_tables.sql
/
spool off

would generate you a script to move your tables.

Cheers,
Mike

PS That's off the top of my head so exercise care when running it.



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Thanks!
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Nelson, Allan
select 'create table newuser'||'.'||table_name||' as select * from
'||owner||'.'||table_name||';'
from dba_tables
where table_name like 'abc%';

Will give you some dynamic sql to do the creates.  A similar statement
would do the drops for the original tables afterwards assuming you have
space for both.

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prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Bugger. I missed the schema bit didn't I. 

Never mind, back to the drawing board ...

Mike

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Thanks!
Ron



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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Move selected tables





I thought the tables were changing their ownership (schema) not the address (tablespace)


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something like ...


set feed off
set echo off
set pages 0


select 'alter table '||table_name||' move tablespace NEW_TS;'
from user_tables
where table_name like 'ABC_%'


spool move_tables.sql
/
spool off


would generate you a script to move your tables.


Cheers,
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Ron,

You can certainly create an Export Parameter file listing all of the tables
you want to export - Select the table names and spool the result - then edit
the result, creating an export parameter file - it would look something
like:

userid= schema/pw file=exp_file_name.dmp buffer=65000 direct=y log=exp.log
tables=(
table1, table2...
)

exp parfile=(file name of par file)

imp userid=dbauser/pw file=exp_file_name.dmp fromuser=sourceschemauser
touser=targetschemauser full=y log=imp.log

good luck!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
the problem with the 'create table newuser' concept is that none of the
constraints (except for NOT NULL) get created.  So, all primary key, foreign
key and indexes do not come along.

Tom Mercadante
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select 'create table newuser'||'.'||table_name||' as select * from
'||owner||'.'||table_name||';'
from dba_tables
where table_name like 'abc%';

Will give you some dynamic sql to do the creates.  A similar statement
would do the drops for the original tables afterwards assuming you have
space for both.

Allan

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I need to move selected tables from one schema to another schema within
the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
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Re: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Reginald . W . Bailey

Try using the SQLPlus command COPY or the SQL command create table xxyy AS
SELECT * FROM dddrrr.  Or use OEM or some other GUI tool.

RWB


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I need to move selected tables from one schema to another schema within
the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Sarnowski, Chris

You've gotten several suggestions for how to move the data - let me mention some of 
the caveats. We went from one big shared schema to several smaller schemas, which is 
what led to issue 3 below. If that's not what you're doing, you may not have this 
problem.

We've done some of this, and here are some of the issues we've run into.

1) make sure your referential integrity is maintained. If you are moving a parent or 
child table, you'll have to drop and recreate any foreign keys. export/import makes 
this somewhat easier than 'create as select *', but not trivial. It's easier if you 
move both parents and children in the same export set (assuming they're all being 
moved).

2) make sure the data doesn't change while you're moving the tables. What we've done 
in some cases is open an SQLPlus window, lock the tables, then do the export/import in 
a different shell.

3) make sure any code finds the correct tables. We've created private synonyms for the 
tables in the new locations as an interim solution. There is a little overhead 
associated with resolving synonyms while parsing queries but it doesn't seem to be a 
problem for us. The down side is that there is not much incentive for developers to 
point to the correct tables, and there's no good way to keep someone from referring to 
the old schema when they should be using the new schema. Some on this list will say 
this is a matter of DBA discipline: at any rate it is a matter of management 
discipline, and the DBA's ability to do anything about it depends on how much control 
they have over introduction of new code.

Good luck,
-Chris

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 schema within
 the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
 prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 
 1000 that I
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Thanks for all the info and various ways to handle this.  I was kinda
hoping there was a magic tables=( abc_% ) parameter for export that I
didn't know about.  I think I'll use the SQL generating SQL idea.
Sounds like the quickest way.

Thanks again!
Ron

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You've gotten several suggestions for how to move the data - let me
mention some of the caveats. We went from one big shared schema to
several smaller schemas, which is what led to issue 3 below. If that's
not what you're doing, you may not have this problem.

We've done some of this, and here are some of the issues we've run into.

1) make sure your referential integrity is maintained. If you are moving
a parent or child table, you'll have to drop and recreate any foreign
keys. export/import makes this somewhat easier than 'create as select
*', but not trivial. It's easier if you move both parents and children
in the same export set (assuming they're all being moved).

2) make sure the data doesn't change while you're moving the tables.
What we've done in some cases is open an SQLPlus window, lock the
tables, then do the export/import in a different shell.

3) make sure any code finds the correct tables. We've created private
synonyms for the tables in the new locations as an interim solution.
There is a little overhead associated with resolving synonyms while
parsing queries but it doesn't seem to be a problem for us. The down
side is that there is not much incentive for developers to point to the
correct tables, and there's no good way to keep someone from referring
to the old schema when they should be using the new schema. Some on this
list will say this is a matter of DBA discipline: at any rate it is a
matter of management discipline, and the DBA's ability to do anything
about it depends on how much control they have over introduction of new
code.

Good luck,
-Chris

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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Robson, Peter



the problem with the 'create table newuser' concept is that none of the
constraints (except for NOT NULL) get created.  So, all primary key,
foreign
key and indexes do not come along.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional



Right - but it is quite easy to use the dynamic SQL already illustrated in
an earlier email  reply (eg below) to capture the entirety of the DDL for a
suite of tables, and transpose the whole lot into a new schema. In fact, I
am doing this sort of thing repeatedly, as our users areas are regarded as
'development', with their objects (tables, triggers, constraints, the lot)
being moved into our production schema more or less on demand.

peter
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select 'create table newuser'||'.'||table_name||' as select * from
'||owner||'.'||table_name||';'
from dba_tables
where table_name like 'abc%';

Will give you some dynamic sql to do the creates.  A similar statement
would do the drops for the original tables afterwards assuming you have
space for both.

Allan

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the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
Ron
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Re: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

I think you should use export/import with rows=n parameter, because
otherwise you have to write manual scripts for transferring some
constraints, indexes, triggers, etc...
You should generate a parameter file for exp where you store:

tables=(
'TAB1',
'TAB2',
'TAB3',
...
'TABX)

It's quite easy to generate this kind of parameter file dynamically to have
all necessary tables. You can use parameter parfile with export, to
specify where from it should read it's parameters.

If you got a lot of data to move, then you could first transfer only table
structures without any indexes  constraints, then use insert /*+ APPEND
PARALLEL NOLOGGING */ into new_schema.tab select * from old_schema.tab;
(Parallel *hint* is new in 9i and should be used only if your IO subsystem
is fast enough to handle the load.

Also, if you happend have *really lot* of data and very little allowed
downtime you could create a single partition range partitioned table in new
schema (with values less than (maxvalue) and then just exchange the
partitions between two tables. This will save you a lot of IO bandwidth and
downtime.

Of course it seems that you don't have a 24x7 production database anyway,
since in those you usually don't move tables around in different schemas, so
the easiest might be just to export everything (with parameterfile
specifying table names), drop the exported tables and reimport them under
new schema. If you drop old tables *after* import to new ones, you just
might waste space in tablespace - but if you are dropping data before
importing it back, you should make sure that the exportfile is ok (importing
with show=y for testing or similar).

Tanel.

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 Thanks for all the info and various ways to handle this.  I was kinda
 hoping there was a magic tables=( abc_% ) parameter for export that I
 didn't know about.  I think I'll use the SQL generating SQL idea.
 Sounds like the quickest way.

 Thanks again!
 Ron

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 You've gotten several suggestions for how to move the data - let me
 mention some of the caveats. We went from one big shared schema to
 several smaller schemas, which is what led to issue 3 below. If that's
 not what you're doing, you may not have this problem.

 We've done some of this, and here are some of the issues we've run into.

 1) make sure your referential integrity is maintained. If you are moving
 a parent or child table, you'll have to drop and recreate any foreign
 keys. export/import makes this somewhat easier than 'create as select
 *', but not trivial. It's easier if you move both parents and children
 in the same export set (assuming they're all being moved).

 2) make sure the data doesn't change while you're moving the tables.
 What we've done in some cases is open an SQLPlus window, lock the
 tables, then do the export/import in a different shell.

 3) make sure any code finds the correct tables. We've created private
 synonyms for the tables in the new locations as an interim solution.
 There is a little overhead associated with resolving synonyms while
 parsing queries but it doesn't seem to be a problem for us. The down
 side is that there is not much incentive for developers to point to the
 correct tables, and there's no good way to keep someone from referring
 to the old schema when they should be using the new schema. Some on this
 list will say this is a matter of DBA discipline: at any rate it is a
 matter of management discipline, and the DBA's ability to do anything
 about it depends on how much control they have over introduction of new
 code.

 Good luck,
 -Chris

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  Subject: Move selected tables
 
 
  I need to move selected tables from one schema to another
  schema within
  the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
  prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of
  1000 that I
  want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?
 
  Thanks!
  Ron
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Re: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

 Right - but it is quite easy to use the dynamic SQL already illustrated in
 an earlier email  reply (eg below) to capture the entirety of the DDL for
a
 suite of tables, and transpose the whole lot into a new schema. In fact, I
 am doing this sort of thing repeatedly, as our users areas are regarded as
 'development', with their objects (tables, triggers, constraints, the lot)
 being moved into our production schema more or less on demand.

In 9i, you could make life easier with dbms_metadata functions get_ddl and
get_dependent_ddl...

Tanel.


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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Move selected tables





exp tables ...


imp fromuser=old_user touser=new_user


Raj

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From: Smith, Ron L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Move selected tables



I need to move selected tables from one schema to another schema within
the same database. The tables I need to move all start with the same
prefix (abc_sometablename). Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move. Is there an easy way to do this?


Thanks!
Ron
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