Re: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license

2003-07-01 Thread Jared Still

Depends on who you talk to.  Our sales rep is a bit of a bulldog,
and he had no problem with our power units license.

Same with some consultants that checked it out, and their business
is managing software licensing.

Jared

On Tuesday 01 July 2003 06:24, Goulet, Dick wrote:
> Unless you management has a very OLD license agreement with Oracle, which I
> believe have all been replaced, then their wrong and you are right.  Now if
> you have a named user license upgrade your processors with no worry.  But
> if your running on a processor license or an older power units license,
> call your sales rep.  You REALLY do not want a visit from Oracle's License
> Management Services folks.
>
> Dick Goulet
> Senior Oracle DBA
> Oracle Certified 8i DBA
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:10 PM
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>
> My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users"
> license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to
> upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors.
> The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types
> of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based.
>
> Has anyone heard of this other type?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter Schauss

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RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license

2003-07-01 Thread Goulet, Dick
Unless you management has a very OLD license agreement with Oracle, which I believe 
have all been replaced, then their wrong and you are right.  Now if you have a named 
user license upgrade your processors with no worry.  But if your running on a 
processor license or an older power units license, call your sales rep.  You REALLY do 
not want a visit from Oracle's License Management Services folks.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users"
license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to
upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors.
The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types
of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based.

Has anyone heard of this other type?

Thanks,
Peter Schauss
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RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license

2003-07-01 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license





Depending on the type of data/application ; one can buy licensing based on the CPU, nbr of CPU's within the nodes.  For example; what if you have a n-tier application where the data maintained within the Oracle RDBMS is exposed to an un-countable population? The example of licensing that I have seen in that case has been "license the old fashion way-class of box, cpu, nbr of CPU's".

There are all types of different licensing arrangements that can occur. It really depends on the creativity of the sales and supply chain folks within each company. But I agree with Dennis - get the contract out and have an individual familiar with the contract read the fine print with you...


greg


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Subject: RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license



Peter
   Concurrent licenses were offered years ago. I have not heard of an
unlimited concurrent, but it may well be that Oracle Sales sold them one.
The key would be finding the sales agreement they and Oracle signed and
seeing what it says.


Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users"
license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to
upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors.
The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types
of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based.


Has anyone heard of this other type?


Thanks,
Peter Schauss
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Re: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license

2003-06-30 Thread Jared . Still
Yes, we have that type of license.

Oracle doesn't sell this license anymore, but they did at one time.

I can install Oracle on any platform I want, as many servers as I want.

453 users for EE and 400+ for Std Edition.

Best look at your contract though to be sure.

Jared






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My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users"
license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to
upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors.
The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types
of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based.

Has anyone heard of this other type?

Thanks,
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RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license

2003-06-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Yes, in versions 5 and 6. Tell them that the money
is needed for the "transaction processing option" (TPO).

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My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users"
license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to
upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors.
The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types
of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based.

Has anyone heard of this other type?

Thanks,
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RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license

2003-06-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Peter
   Concurrent licenses were offered years ago. I have not heard of an
unlimited concurrent, but it may well be that Oracle Sales sold them one.
The key would be finding the sales agreement they and Oracle signed and
seeing what it says.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users"
license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to
upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors.
The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types
of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based.

Has anyone heard of this other type?

Thanks,
Peter Schauss
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