Re: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license
Depends on who you talk to. Our sales rep is a bit of a bulldog, and he had no problem with our power units license. Same with some consultants that checked it out, and their business is managing software licensing. Jared On Tuesday 01 July 2003 06:24, Goulet, Dick wrote: > Unless you management has a very OLD license agreement with Oracle, which I > believe have all been replaced, then their wrong and you are right. Now if > you have a named user license upgrade your processors with no worry. But > if your running on a processor license or an older power units license, > call your sales rep. You REALLY do not want a visit from Oracle's License > Management Services folks. > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > -Original Message- > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:10 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users" > license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to > upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors. > The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types > of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based. > > Has anyone heard of this other type? > > Thanks, > Peter Schauss -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license
Unless you management has a very OLD license agreement with Oracle, which I believe have all been replaced, then their wrong and you are right. Now if you have a named user license upgrade your processors with no worry. But if your running on a processor license or an older power units license, call your sales rep. You REALLY do not want a visit from Oracle's License Management Services folks. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users" license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors. The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based. Has anyone heard of this other type? Thanks, Peter Schauss -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Schauss, Peter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license
Title: RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license Depending on the type of data/application ; one can buy licensing based on the CPU, nbr of CPU's within the nodes. For example; what if you have a n-tier application where the data maintained within the Oracle RDBMS is exposed to an un-countable population? The example of licensing that I have seen in that case has been "license the old fashion way-class of box, cpu, nbr of CPU's". There are all types of different licensing arrangements that can occur. It really depends on the creativity of the sales and supply chain folks within each company. But I agree with Dennis - get the contract out and have an individual familiar with the contract read the fine print with you... greg -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license Peter Concurrent licenses were offered years ago. I have not heard of an unlimited concurrent, but it may well be that Oracle Sales sold them one. The key would be finding the sales agreement they and Oracle signed and seeing what it says. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users" license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors. The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based. Has anyone heard of this other type? Thanks, Peter Schauss -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Schauss, Peter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license
Yes, we have that type of license. Oracle doesn't sell this license anymore, but they did at one time. I can install Oracle on any platform I want, as many servers as I want. 453 users for EE and 400+ for Std Edition. Best look at your contract though to be sure. Jared "Schauss, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/2003 02:09 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users" license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors. The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based. Has anyone heard of this other type? Thanks, Peter Schauss -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Schauss, Peter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license
Yes, in versions 5 and 6. Tell them that the money is needed for the "transaction processing option" (TPO). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users" license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors. The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based. Has anyone heard of this other type? Thanks, Peter Schauss -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Schauss, Peter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle "unlimited concurrent" license
Peter Concurrent licenses were offered years ago. I have not heard of an unlimited concurrent, but it may well be that Oracle Sales sold them one. The key would be finding the sales agreement they and Oracle signed and seeing what it says. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My management is claiming that we have an "unlimited concurrent users" license on one of our AIX machines and that we do not need to upgrade the license when we increase the number of processors. The Oracle web site section on licensing lists only two types of licenses for Enterprise Edition, Named users and Processor Based. Has anyone heard of this other type? Thanks, Peter Schauss -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Schauss, Peter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).