Re: Oracle Masters program

2001-03-07 Thread Jonathan Gennick 

Tuesday, March 06, 2001, 9:05:27 AM, Patrice Boivin wrote:
BPJ> I am just curious - I had major problems with it when they informed me that
BPJ> taking Microsoft courses on NT wasn't good enough, to be certifiable as an
BPJ> Oracle on NT Master you had to have learned NT from... Oracle.  Even though
BPJ> their course names were identical to the MS ones.

My impression of the Oracle Masters program is that it
exists in order to get people to take courses. To get a
master's certificate, it's not a matter of whether you know
the material, or learn it somewhere else, it's just a matter
of paying to sit through a specific list of courses offered
by Oracle. At least with OCP certification, you have to go
through an exam to show that you know something.


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RE: Oracle Masters program

2001-03-07 Thread Martin Kendall 

This is my understanding as I am studying for my Certificate at the moment.

At the end I will be an OCP but a DBA type of OCP .

Martin

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This is funny, because last year they were tagging "Masters" courses at the
end of the OCP training path - you earned your OCP, and only then could you
take Masters courses.

They had at least twenty, including Internet DBA courses, Internet
Applications DBA courses, Master DBA on Solaris, on NT, etc.  Now I learn
that the Masters program was a legacy training path, that it has been
discontinued, etc.  

I assume this means very very few people bought into the idea of taking
Masters sessions after earning an OCP, maybe it wasn't worth the costs.

Now they have "job-related" paths.

???

Patrice Boivin
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As to whether or not it still exists...this should answer your
question:

http://education.oracle.com/masters/index.html

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Does it still exist?

I can't find reference to it anywhere in the new www.oracle.com
<http://www.oracle.com>  layout.

I am just curious - I had major problems with it when they informed
me that
taking Microsoft courses on NT wasn't good enough, to be certifiable
as an
Oracle on NT Master you had to have learned NT from... Oracle.  Even
though
their course names were identical to the MS ones.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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RE: Oracle Masters program

2001-03-07 Thread Boivin, Patrice J 

This is funny, because last year they were tagging "Masters" courses at the
end of the OCP training path - you earned your OCP, and only then could you
take Masters courses.

They had at least twenty, including Internet DBA courses, Internet
Applications DBA courses, Master DBA on Solaris, on NT, etc.  Now I learn
that the Masters program was a legacy training path, that it has been
discontinued, etc.  

I assume this means very very few people bought into the idea of taking
Masters sessions after earning an OCP, maybe it wasn't worth the costs.

Now they have "job-related" paths.

???

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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-Original Message-
From:   Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
    Subject:RE: Oracle Masters program

As to whether or not it still exists...this should answer your
question:

http://education.oracle.com/masters/index.html

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, 06 March, 2001 9:05 AM
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Does it still exist?

I can't find reference to it anywhere in the new www.oracle.com
<http://www.oracle.com>  layout.

I am just curious - I had major problems with it when they informed
me that
taking Microsoft courses on NT wasn't good enough, to be certifiable
as an
Oracle on NT Master you had to have learned NT from... Oracle.  Even
though
their course names were identical to the MS ones.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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RE: Oracle Masters program

2001-03-07 Thread Ranganath K 

Dear Mr. Robert,

Hi!  Do you have the ILT Study material for any of the masters' modules?
If so, can you lend it to me?  By the way, in which countries is the masters
certification program conducted?  Please reply.

Thanks and Regards,

Ranganath

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As to whether or not it still exists...this should answer your question:

http://education.oracle.com/masters/index.html

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, 06 March, 2001 9:05 AM
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Does it still exist?

I can't find reference to it anywhere in the new www.oracle.com
  layout.

I am just curious - I had major problems with it when they informed me that
taking Microsoft courses on NT wasn't good enough, to be certifiable as an
Oracle on NT Master you had to have learned NT from... Oracle.  Even though
their course names were identical to the MS ones.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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RE: Oracle Masters program

2001-03-06 Thread Gary Weber 

Program still exists, although Masters requirements change somewhat
frequently, and at times are misleading. For instance, I'm pursuing
Enterprise Scalable Master certificate and was under the impression that
only 3 Master courses were needed, including Data modeling one. To my
surprise, Oracle kindly notified me about the requirement to take one more
course, any course, from any other track to qualify. Go figure...

Gary

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Does it still exist?

I can't find reference to it anywhere in the new www.oracle.com
  layout.

I am just curious - I had major problems with it when they informed me that
taking Microsoft courses on NT wasn't good enough, to be certifiable as an
Oracle on NT Master you had to have learned NT from... Oracle.  Even though
their course names were identical to the MS ones.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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RE: Oracle Masters program

2001-03-06 Thread Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA 

As to whether or not it still exists...this should answer your question:

http://education.oracle.com/masters/index.html

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Does it still exist?

I can't find reference to it anywhere in the new www.oracle.com
  layout.

I am just curious - I had major problems with it when they informed me that
taking Microsoft courses on NT wasn't good enough, to be certifiable as an
Oracle on NT Master you had to have learned NT from... Oracle.  Even though
their course names were identical to the MS ones.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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