RE: Oracle websites

2003-12-04 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
I've disabled the autoupdate feature because there's an XP patch which (in
combination with XP SP1) slows some application startup times to a crawl. 

Not sure if this is still a problem or if XP also autodownloads a fix for
this issue.

Cheers,
Mike Hately



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Yes,

40 MB so far.  But it is quite subtle about it,
and it only happens in my 'think time' whilst
I'm online.

Be prepared - the OEM 4.0 demo at IOUG
said that OEM would call Oracle for you with
an ORA-00600 trace, get the analysis done,
download the (probable) patch, and install it
for you automatically.  (I said the same thing
at my presentation - but when I said it, it had
intended it to be a joke ! )


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> Did your wonderful XP box download patches from MS Support for you without
> telling?
>
> Rich
>
> Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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RE: Oracle websites

2003-12-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Jonathan ... it is Microsoft product after all, you don't question why something 
happens. 

There is only one Golden Rule ... "When in doubt, reboot ... and again"
Raj

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Thanks to all for their suggestions - but it
all started working for no apparent reason

(HONEST - I didn't change a thing, reboot,
restart the instance, make a cup of coffee,
or sacrifice a black cockerel.  At 9:23 pm
it wasn't working, and 10:25 pm it was !)

Don't you hate it when you don't know 
why it IS working.

Regards
Jonathan Lewis

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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Pete Finnigan
Thanks for that Patrice, i will watch out for it.

kind regards

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>Patrice.
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Agreed -

It's like the case where I had a wonderful (pure SQL) 
workaround to a  deficiency in partitioned tables in 8.0.5; 
and  Oracle decided it was a bug, and fixed it in 8.0.6.

How do explain that the database is now running 120
times more slowly because it's working properly ?

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> I find almost as bad the situation where you DO find the problem and it 
> turns out that it should never have worked in the first place.
> 
> At 01:59 PM 12/3/2003, you wrote:
> >Don't you hate it when you don't know
> >why it IS working.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Jonathan Lewis
> 
> Wolfgang Breitling
> Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA
> Centrex Consulting Corporation
> http://www.centrexcc.com 
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Yes,

40 MB so far.  But it is quite subtle about it,
and it only happens in my 'think time' whilst
I'm online.

Be prepared - the OEM 4.0 demo at IOUG
said that OEM would call Oracle for you with
an ORA-00600 trace, get the analysis done,
download the (probable) patch, and install it
for you automatically.  (I said the same thing
at my presentation - but when I said it, it had
intended it to be a joke ! )


Regards

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> Did your wonderful XP box download patches from MS Support for you without
> telling?
>
> Rich
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> Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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RE: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Jesse, Rich
Did your wonderful XP box download patches from MS Support for you without
telling?

Rich

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Thanks to all for their suggestions - but it
all started working for no apparent reason

(HONEST - I didn't change a thing, reboot,
restart the instance, make a cup of coffee,
or sacrifice a black cockerel.  At 9:23 pm
it wasn't working, and 10:25 pm it was !)

Don't you hate it when you don't know 
why it IS working.

Regards

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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
I find almost as bad the situation where you DO find the problem and it 
turns out that it should never have worked in the first place.

At 01:59 PM 12/3/2003, you wrote:
Don't you hate it when you don't know
why it IS working.
Regards

Jonathan Lewis
Wolfgang Breitling
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Centrex Consulting Corporation
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
At 12:59 3-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
Don't you hate it when you don't know
why it IS working.
Jonathan, give in, and sleep well tonight.
Regards, Carel-Jan
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Thanks to all for their suggestions - but it
all started working for no apparent reason

(HONEST - I didn't change a thing, reboot,
restart the instance, make a cup of coffee,
or sacrifice a black cockerel.  At 9:23 pm
it wasn't working, and 10:25 pm it was !)

Don't you hate it when you don't know 
why it IS working.

Regards

Jonathan Lewis
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> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> I bought a new PC sometime back similar to you, xp norton firewall and
> virus and i had a problem with norton to start with. I found the
> solution was the built in windows firewall was also turned on. You can
> check this in the start->control panel->network connections->right click
> on isp connection->advanced tab ==> you will see the internet connection
> firewall.  In my case it was on, turning it off fixed it and allowed
> norton to function correctly.
> 
> Worth a check

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RE: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Not sure, but when you patch XP, keep an eye out for this in 2004 -- I heard
a rumour that the next Service Pack for XP may turn the XP firewall back on.

Patrice.

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Hi Jonathan,

I bought a new PC sometime back similar to you, xp norton firewall and
virus and i had a problem with norton to start with. I found the
solution was the built in windows firewall was also turned on. You can
check this in the start->control panel->network connections->right click
on isp connection->advanced tab ==> you will see the internet connection
firewall.  In my case it was on, turning it off fixed it and allowed
norton to function correctly.

Worth a check

kind regards

Pete
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-03 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Jonathan,

I bought a new PC sometime back similar to you, xp norton firewall and
virus and i had a problem with norton to start with. I found the
solution was the built in windows firewall was also turned on. You can
check this in the start->control panel->network connections->right click
on isp connection->advanced tab ==> you will see the internet connection
firewall.  In my case it was on, turning it off fixed it and allowed
norton to function correctly.

Worth a check

kind regards

Pete
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-02 Thread Daniel Hanks
Make sure you also allow destination port 53 UDP/TCP for DNS requests. Even if you can 
talk HTTP[S] on ports 80 and 443, you won't get very far if you can't lookup an IP 
address for a domain name.

-- Dan Hanks

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Jonathan Lewis wrote:

> 
> I've just bought a new Windows XP machine,
> Got all the latest downloads on the O/S. 
> Installed a firewall.
> Got Norton Anti-virus loaded and up to date.
> 
> Which bit of code is stopping me from getting
> to Metalink and the Oracle websites ?  The
> pages no longer exist according to my M/S IE.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jonathan Lewis
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
> 
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>   who can answer the questions, but the 
>   person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr
> 
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-02 Thread Reginald . W . Bailey

Is this a multiple choice question? My money is on the firewall.  You can
test this by trying to go to well known web sites like microsoft.com and
dell.com.  Who is the firewall's vendor?  You need to enable the feature
that allows full access to sites. Go to grc.com to check the firewall to
determine if it is doing it's job properly. If a web site is running Java
or Javascript, you might want to check the firewall to determine if it will
allow Java access. Also check the Internet Options to determine if Oracle
is on a list of "bad" sites.

RWB



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I've just bought a new Windows XP machine,
Got all the latest downloads on the O/S.
Installed a firewall.
Got Norton Anti-virus loaded and up to date.

Which bit of code is stopping me from getting
to Metalink and the Oracle websites ?  The
pages no longer exist according to my M/S IE.

Regards

Jonathan Lewis
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-02 Thread Tanel Poder
Yep, could be the firewall, if the site gives "not found" error.

Another thing that you might hit is that Metalink requires cookies to be
enabled, maybe in XP's internet explorer they're disabled by default.

Tanel.

> Firewall seems like the most likely culprit.
>
> Rich
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> I've just bought a new Windows XP machine,
> Got all the latest downloads on the O/S.
> Installed a firewall.
> Got Norton Anti-virus loaded and up to date.
>
> Which bit of code is stopping me from getting
> to Metalink and the Oracle websites ?  The
> pages no longer exist according to my M/S IE.
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan Lewis
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Re: Oracle websites

2003-12-02 Thread Mladen Gogala
I couldn't resist: it must be  Windows XP.
On 12/02/2003 02:54:30 PM, Jonathan Lewis wrote:
> 
> I've just bought a new Windows XP machine,
> Got all the latest downloads on the O/S. 
> Installed a firewall.
> Got Norton Anti-virus loaded and up to date.
> 
> Which bit of code is stopping me from getting
> to Metalink and the Oracle websites ?  The
> pages no longer exist according to my M/S IE.
> 
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RE: Oracle websites

2003-12-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I'd say IE  and firewall too ... I use Mozilla Firebird ... it is set to open 
different tabs instead of windows ... Maybe you want to tweak XP built in firewall and 
open ports 80 (http),443 (https).

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Firewall seems like the most likely culprit.

Rich

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I've just bought a new Windows XP machine,
Got all the latest downloads on the O/S. 
Installed a firewall.
Got Norton Anti-virus loaded and up to date.

Which bit of code is stopping me from getting
to Metalink and the Oracle websites ?  The
pages no longer exist according to my M/S IE.

Regards

Jonathan Lewis

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RE: Oracle websites

2003-12-02 Thread Jesse, Rich
Firewall seems like the most likely culprit.

Rich

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I've just bought a new Windows XP machine,
Got all the latest downloads on the O/S. 
Installed a firewall.
Got Norton Anti-virus loaded and up to date.

Which bit of code is stopping me from getting
to Metalink and the Oracle websites ?  The
pages no longer exist according to my M/S IE.

Regards

Jonathan Lewis
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