Re: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
I think it is possible to enable DDL command logging in 9i, it can be used in logical standby. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:09 PM > You guessed and hoped you were close enough. If you were wrong, you > repeated the exercise until you found the point in time before the drop > > I'm not sure logminer will show you the drop table in any case. At > least not explicitly as drop table is NOT a logged operation. You might > see the effect of it on fet$ and uet$ in that extents would be > released back to the tablespace but if you have locally managed > tablespaces you'd have to search for the update to tab$ to find the > time. > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time > > recovery > > has been around a long time? > > > > Thanks > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > "Scott Canaan" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple > > recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: cc: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: > > Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution > > > > .com > > > > > > > > > > > > 11/06/2003 10:09 > > > > AM > > > > Please respond to > > > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your > > table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. > > > > Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > (585) 475-7886 > > "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put > > into it." - Tom Lehrer. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi DBAs, > > > > Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN > > Testing Point-In-Time Recovery > > > > I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE > > UNTIL > > TIME > > 'timestamp'; > > > > For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. > > Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete > > recovery > > to get the table back. > > How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped > > the > > table but not exact. > > > > > > 1. SHUTDOWN Normal > > 2. BACKUP current database > > 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. > > 4. connect internal > > 5. startup mount > > 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; > > 7. Alter database open resetlogs; > > 8. BACKUP current database > > > > Step 5 is my confusion. > > > > Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to > > the > > present. > > The only way I know to get that data back is to > > 1. Export the table that was dropped. > > 2. Restore database from step2 > > 3. Import table from step1 > > > > Is there better ways. > > > > Thanks > > Rick > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Scott Canaan > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > --
Re: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
although it is logged in 9i. joe Rachel Carmichael wrote: You guessed and hoped you were close enough. If you were wrong, you repeated the exercise until you found the point in time before the drop I'm not sure logminer will show you the drop table in any case. At least not explicitly as drop table is NOT a logged operation. You might see the effect of it on fet$ and uet$ in that extents would be released back to the tablespace but if you have locally managed tablespaces you'd have to search for the update to tab$ to find the time. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time recovery has been around a long time? Thanks Rick "Scott Canaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution .com 11/06/2003 10:09 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (585) 475-7886 "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." - Tom Lehrer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
Re: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
you kinda/sorta had to know when it happened and hope for the best. joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time recovery has been around a long time? Thanks Rick "Scott Canaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution .com 11/06/2003 10:09 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (585) 475-7886 "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." - Tom Lehrer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatc
RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
Rick You are getting some good replies on your problem. Since you say that you are recovering the table from two days ago, I'm assuming you are recovering to a test server. On the precision of the recovery time, a lot depends on just how much precision you need. As Scott says, you can use Logminer to get extremely close. But maybe if you dropped the table two days ago, just sometime earlier than the drop will be close enough. I also try to perform regular exports on all tables that aren't so large as to be unwieldly. Often when something comes up you can offer an export from a couple of days ago and that is good enough. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
You guessed and hoped you were close enough. If you were wrong, you repeated the exercise until you found the point in time before the drop I'm not sure logminer will show you the drop table in any case. At least not explicitly as drop table is NOT a logged operation. You might see the effect of it on fet$ and uet$ in that extents would be released back to the tablespace but if you have locally managed tablespaces you'd have to search for the update to tab$ to find the time. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time > recovery > has been around a long time? > > Thanks > Rick > > > > > "Scott Canaan" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple > recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: cc: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: > Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution > > .com > > > > > > 11/06/2003 10:09 > > AM > > Please respond to > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your > table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. > > Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > (585) 475-7886 > "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put > into it." - Tom Lehrer. > > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Hi DBAs, > > Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN > Testing Point-In-Time Recovery > > I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE > UNTIL > TIME > 'timestamp'; > > For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. > Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete > recovery > to get the table back. > How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped > the > table but not exact. > > > 1. SHUTDOWN Normal > 2. BACKUP current database > 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. > 4. connect internal > 5. startup mount > 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; > 7. Alter database open resetlogs; > 8. BACKUP current database > > Step 5 is my confusion. > > Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to > the > present. > The only way I know to get that data back is to > 1. Export the table that was dropped. > 2. Restore database from step2 > 3. Import table from step1 > > Is there better ways. > > Thanks > Rick > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the mes
RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
Rick - Being very conservative with the time you select ;-) Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time recovery has been around a long time? Thanks Rick "Scott Canaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution .com 11/06/2003 10:09 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (585) 475-7886 "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." - Tom Lehrer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
Rick, In a perfect world, we would be tracking major changes to the database (even updates) by time. In your case, you are stuck with taking a WAG, or more better, and educated WAG. You said that you think you dropped the table at about 1700. You can choose a point-in-time recovery to be 1630, to be safe. When you open the database, if the table is there, then you are done. If not, do it again. Good Luck! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time recovery has been around a long time? Thanks Rick "Scott Canaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution .com 11/06/2003 10:09 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (585) 475-7886 "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." - Tom Lehrer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail me
RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time recovery has been around a long time? Thanks Rick "Scott Canaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution .com 11/06/2003 10:09 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (585) 475-7886 "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." - Tom Lehrer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services --
RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (585) 475-7886 "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." - Tom Lehrer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution
Rick unless i'm missing something you need to restore ALL datafiles and then roll forward to the point in time, since all of the SCN have to match before you can get the db open. the timestamp format for step 5 is: RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME '1998-11-23:12:47:30' hth, joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
