RE: RE: Linux taking over at Oracle
There are rumors that Red Hat is buying Microsoft? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Steve, As one of the GREAT MicroSlop bashers, I pray you are more than correct. May the Penguin rule!! BTW: I've experimented with Oracle 8 8i on Linux, RedHat's variant, I'll agree it is stable, easy to use, and very supportable. The problem is the cost of Oracle on a Linux box. One reason I've been playing around with PostGres. I can't say I like it as much, but you really can't beat the price tag. DickG. Reply Separator Author: Orr; Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/1/2002 7:55 AM On a contrarian note with all the Larry hype aside... Linux is much more that just a fad. In a relatively short time it has already put a very significant dent in MS server software sales and I'm sure it's going to affect Sun/HP regardless of Oracle's IT infrastructure strategies. Linux/Intel is a proven production quality platform and having worked with Linux/Oracle servers for over a year now I conclude that the Linux revolution is not going away like just another fad. In fact, it's just getting started. BTW, I'm getting ready to buy a ReplayTV unit and guess what it runs on? ... LINUX!!! If you want to get a good idea of what folks are doing with Oracle on Linux just join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list or go to http://www.suse.com/en/support/oracle/index.html ... etc. I think the point behind all this is that, large, complex servers can be a support challenge with capacity planning for always on, 24x7, unlimited future scalability needs. Rather than racking our brains we should be RAC'ing our servers. Steve Orr, Montana Revolutionary -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L it's not just Oracle, this tends to be a trend in all businesses. Just as there are fads in clothing (shorter hemlines, longer hemlines etc), there seem to be fads in the right way to manage your computer systems. I've seen the cycle turn a number of times centralize all software and systems, one data center to serve them all, standards cross-company then suddenly it's decentralize, one big center makes no sense, we don't get the things we need fast enough from them --- Jonathan Gennick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting news. Makes me wonder though. Remember when Oracle moved to support client-server computing? Now Larry derides client-server and distributed computing saying that it's cheaper to have just one big system. How many times have you heard Larry talk about how Oracle's consolidated their email servers? Makes me wonder whether five years down the road Larry will be telling us that it's silly to run a database on 50 cheap boxes because it's much easier to administer one big one. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://ValleySpur.com Thursday, January 31, 2002, 2:36:21 PM, you wrote: AMG0 Ellison says Oracle's 'whole business' to run on Linux AMG0 The Oracle chairman and CEO said the company will replace three Unix AMG0 servers AMG0 that run the bulk of its business applications with a cluster of Intel AMG0 Corp. AMG0 servers running Linux. AMG0 http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO67867_NLTAM%2C00.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access
RE: RE: Linux taking over at Oracle
It's not a rumor, it's true...MS is letting themselves become aquired by Red Hat, they figure that all the lawsuits will have to be dropped, and there going to put the Windows GUI onto RH Linux. A killer combo. A brillant move by Bill Gates. https://www.usatoday.com/current/0201/am/rhmspur.html -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L There are rumors that Red Hat is buying Microsoft? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Steve, As one of the GREAT MicroSlop bashers, I pray you are more than correct. May the Penguin rule!! BTW: I've experimented with Oracle 8 8i on Linux, RedHat's variant, I'll agree it is stable, easy to use, and very supportable. The problem is the cost of Oracle on a Linux box. One reason I've been playing around with PostGres. I can't say I like it as much, but you really can't beat the price tag. DickG. Reply Separator Author: Orr; Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/1/2002 7:55 AM On a contrarian note with all the Larry hype aside... Linux is much more that just a fad. In a relatively short time it has already put a very significant dent in MS server software sales and I'm sure it's going to affect Sun/HP regardless of Oracle's IT infrastructure strategies. Linux/Intel is a proven production quality platform and having worked with Linux/Oracle servers for over a year now I conclude that the Linux revolution is not going away like just another fad. In fact, it's just getting started. BTW, I'm getting ready to buy a ReplayTV unit and guess what it runs on? ... LINUX!!! If you want to get a good idea of what folks are doing with Oracle on Linux just join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list or go to http://www.suse.com/en/support/oracle/index.html ... etc. I think the point behind all this is that, large, complex servers can be a support challenge with capacity planning for always on, 24x7, unlimited future scalability needs. Rather than racking our brains we should be RAC'ing our servers. Steve Orr, Montana Revolutionary -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L it's not just Oracle, this tends to be a trend in all businesses. Just as there are fads in clothing (shorter hemlines, longer hemlines etc), there seem to be fads in the right way to manage your computer systems. I've seen the cycle turn a number of times centralize all software and systems, one data center to serve them all, standards cross-company then suddenly it's decentralize, one big center makes no sense, we don't get the things we need fast enough from them --- Jonathan Gennick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting news. Makes me wonder though. Remember when Oracle moved to support client-server computing? Now Larry derides client-server and distributed computing saying that it's cheaper to have just one big system. How many times have you heard Larry talk about how Oracle's consolidated their email servers? Makes me wonder whether five years down the road Larry will be telling us that it's silly to run a database on 50 cheap boxes because it's much easier to administer one big one. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://ValleySpur.com Thursday, January 31, 2002, 2:36:21 PM, you wrote: AMG0 Ellison says Oracle's 'whole business' to run on Linux AMG0 The Oracle chairman and CEO said the company will replace three Unix AMG0 servers AMG0 that run the bulk of its business applications with a cluster of Intel AMG0 Corp. AMG0 servers running Linux. AMG0 http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO67867_NLTAM%2C00.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY,
RE: RE: Linux taking over at Oracle
Erm, what drugs are you taking and do you have any left over for me? usatoday.com doesn't use SSL and that link without SSL isn't on their site... Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:42 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's not a rumor, it's true...MS is letting themselves become aquired by Red Hat, they figure that all the lawsuits will have to be dropped, and there going to put the Windows GUI onto RH Linux. A killer combo. A brillant move by Bill Gates. https://www.usatoday.com/current/0201/am/rhmspur.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: Linux taking over at Oracle
Title: RE: RE: Linux taking over at Oracle I think you can figure just from the text that this was a hoax. red hat acquiring microsoft? now that would take some serious capitalization. Jon Baker -Original Message- From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RE: Linux taking over at Oracle Erm, what drugs are you taking and do you have any left over for me? usatoday.com doesn't use SSL and that link without SSL isn't on their site... Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:42 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's not a rumor, it's true...MS is letting themselves become aquired by Red Hat, they figure that all the lawsuits will have to be dropped, and there going to put the Windows GUI onto RH Linux. A killer combo. A brillant move by Bill Gates. https://www.usatoday.com/current/0201/am/rhmspur.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).