RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
I picked my copy up last night from my local Borders bookstore. They even
had a copy for the shelf. I'm assuming everyone else has theirs by now and
are busily reading. Please post any comments or observations. Leave it to
Cary to put exercises at the end of each chapter. A quick flip through makes
me want to abandon study for my last OCP exam.

Dennis Williams
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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !Hi!

 Figure 9-14 shows an interesting situation in which a single fast CPU
 out-performs a system with 4 slower CPUs, for a certain condition;
 this is exactly the situation I am facing while testing the move of a DB
 (9.0.1.3.0) from a 2-processor (600 MHz) to a 4-processor (400 MHz)
 box and have been puzzling over reduced performance, even after playing
 with different degrees of parallel query and having twice as much memory
 for the DB on the 4-processor box

Btw, that's one of the reasons why I suggest my clients to turn off
Hyperthreading for their new Intel boxes.
HT basically makes your CPU to 2 over 50% slower CPUs, providing that all
your virtual CPUs will be loaded and you are using the same types of CPU
instructions in all of your processes (I doubt that you are using MMX, SSE
or even FPU that much with your Oracle database).

Situation gets especially bad with parallel execution where Oracle thinks it
has 4 physical processors whilst you actually got 2 for example.

Tanel.



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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-30 Thread Stephane Paquette
I've also picked up my copy yesterday but ...I'm assuming everyone else has
theirs by now and
are busily reading. ...  I still not have finished Tom Kite Expert one on
one


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DENNIS WILLIAMS
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I picked my copy up last night from my local Borders bookstore. They even
had a copy for the shelf. I'm assuming everyone else has theirs by now and
are busily reading. Please post any comments or observations. Leave it to
Cary to put exercises at the end of each chapter. A quick flip through makes
me want to abandon study for my last OCP exam.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !Hi!

 Figure 9-14 shows an interesting situation in which a single fast CPU
 out-performs a system with 4 slower CPUs, for a certain condition;
 this is exactly the situation I am facing while testing the move of a DB
 (9.0.1.3.0) from a 2-processor (600 MHz) to a 4-processor (400 MHz)
 box and have been puzzling over reduced performance, even after playing
 with different degrees of parallel query and having twice as much memory
 for the DB on the 4-processor box

Btw, that's one of the reasons why I suggest my clients to turn off
Hyperthreading for their new Intel boxes.
HT basically makes your CPU to 2 over 50% slower CPUs, providing that all
your virtual CPUs will be loaded and you are using the same types of CPU
instructions in all of your processes (I doubt that you are using MMX, SSE
or even FPU that much with your Oracle database).

Situation gets especially bad with parallel execution where Oracle thinks it
has 4 physical processors whilst you actually got 2 for example.

Tanel.



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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-23 Thread David Wagoner
Title: RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !



Well 
after thumbing through Cary and Jeff'sbook yesterday, I decided to set 
aside the other 2 tuning books I was reading and plunge into this one. 
Here's why:

  Figure 9-14 shows an interesting situation in which a 
  single fast CPU out-performs a system with 4 slower CPUs, for a certain 
  condition; this is exactly the situation I am facing while testing 
  themove of aDB (9.0.1.3.0) from a 2-processor (600 MHz) to a 
  4-processor (400 MHz) box and have been puzzling over reduced performance, 
  even after playing with different degrees of parallel query and having twice 
  as much memory for the DB on the 4-processor box
  I'm 
  only into the book 100 pages and it's by far the most thorough treatment of 
  SQL trace data I've ever seen- very deep stuff with thorough explanations and 
  tables you can use
  the 
  methods are logical and founded in the scientific method, something I have 
  seen little of since I left a Ph.D. program in chemistry to work with 
  databases 3 years ago- I can't wait to hit the queuing theory 
  section
  the writing style is clear and 
  confident
I'm 
just a novice, but I can see that this book will change the way Oracle is 
tuned. I whole-heartedly believe that this book will help me solve my 
current performance issues, and many more to come.

On 
another book note, have you seen the latest Oracle Magazine advertisement for 
books from Oracle Press? There is one entitled, "Oracle Wait Interface" 
from Gaja V., Kirti D., and R. Shee due out in March 2004. Can't 
wait!

Best regards, 
David B. Wagoner Database Administrator Arsenal Digital 
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David Wagoner Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:00 PMTo: 
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Re: Cary's book -- 
Out of stock !

  UPS just delivered my copy of Cary's book to the office! 
  Can't wait to read it, but first I plan to finish the books I'm currently 
  reading:
  - The Art and Science of Oracle Performance Tuning (Chris 
  Lawson) - Oracle SQL High-Performance Tuning (Guy 
  Harrison) 
  No telling when I'll get to finish Tom Kyte's new book, which 
  from the first couple dozen pages appears to be excellent.
  So many books, so little time... 
  Best regards, 
  David B. Wagoner Database 
  Administrator Arsenal Digital Solutions 

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  Cary's book -- Out of stock ! 
  what was the initial printing? 
  congrats Cary. Hope I can get a copy soon.   From: Rachel Carmichael 
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  Subject: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !  
   It's up to the publisher as to when they will 
  print more, Cary has no  control over that. 
However... it apparently 
  never GOT to Amazon, as I had it on pre-order  
  there, and it is still listed as "to be released" and not shipping :( 
 --- Prem Khanna J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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I have placed an order for Cary's book 
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  Can Mr.Cary Millsap let me know that ?   
Regards,   
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Re: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-23 Thread Tanel Poder
RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !Hi!

 Figure 9-14 shows an interesting situation in which a single fast CPU
 out-performs a system with 4 slower CPUs, for a certain condition;
 this is exactly the situation I am facing while testing the move of a DB
 (9.0.1.3.0) from a 2-processor (600 MHz) to a 4-processor (400 MHz)
 box and have been puzzling over reduced performance, even after playing
 with different degrees of parallel query and having twice as much memory
 for the DB on the 4-processor box

Btw, that's one of the reasons why I suggest my clients to turn off
Hyperthreading for their new Intel boxes.
HT basically makes your CPU to 2 over 50% slower CPUs, providing that all
your virtual CPUs will be loaded and you are using the same types of CPU
instructions in all of your processes (I doubt that you are using MMX, SSE
or even FPU that much with your Oracle database).

Situation gets especially bad with parallel execution where Oracle thinks it
has 4 physical processors whilst you actually got 2 for example.

Tanel.



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Re: RE: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread Prem Khanna J
Thanx for the info' Ranganath.
it's too late now.i have placed my order.
that's okay.i will finish it b4 i come there.
it will help me a lot ;)

Regards,
Jp.

22-09-2003 19:59:24, Ranganath K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Prem,
   The book should be out during first week of October.  BTW the
low priced Indian edition of the book should also be out shortly.  You
could have bought the same when you were in India.  You could have saved
some $$.



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Re: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread rgaffuri
what was the initial printing? 

congrats Cary. Hope I can get a copy soon. 
 
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 It's up to the publisher as to when they will print more, Cary has no
 control over that.
 
 However... it apparently never GOT to Amazon, as I had it on pre-order
 there, and it is still listed as to be released and not shipping :(
 
 
 --- Prem Khanna J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi List,
  
  I have placed an order for Cary's book @bookpool.
  Does someone know when it will be in stock ?
  
  Can Mr.Cary Millsap let me know that ?
  
  Regards,
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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread David Wagoner
Title: RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !





UPS just delivered my copy of Cary's book to the office! Can't wait to read it, but first I plan to finish the books I'm currently reading:

- The Art and Science of Oracle Performance Tuning (Chris Lawson)
- Oracle SQL High-Performance Tuning (Guy Harrison)


No telling when I'll get to finish Tom Kyte's new book, which from the first couple dozen pages appears to be excellent.

So many books, so little time...



Best regards,


David B. Wagoner
Database Administrator
Arsenal Digital Solutions



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what was the initial printing? 


congrats Cary. Hope I can get a copy soon. 
 
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 It's up to the publisher as to when they will print more, Cary has no
 control over that.
 
 However... it apparently never GOT to Amazon, as I had it on pre-order
 there, and it is still listed as to be released and not shipping :(
 
 
 --- Prem Khanna J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  I have placed an order for Cary's book @bookpool.
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  Can Mr.Cary Millsap let me know that ?
  
  Regards,
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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: Message



And 
don't forget the new Harry Potter book

--Walt 
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Bozeman, Montana

  
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  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock 
  !
  UPS just delivered my copy of Cary's book to the office! 
  Can't wait to read it, but first I plan to finish the books I'm currently 
  reading:
  - The Art and Science of Oracle Performance Tuning (Chris 
  Lawson) - Oracle SQL High-Performance Tuning (Guy 
  Harrison) 
  No telling when I'll get to finish Tom Kyte's new book, which 
  from the first couple dozen pages appears to be excellent.
  So many books, so little time... 
  Best regards, 
  David B. Wagoner Database 
  Administrator Arsenal Digital Solutions 

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  what was the initial printing? 
  congrats Cary. Hope I can get a copy soon.   From: Rachel Carmichael 
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   It's up to the publisher as to when they will 
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However... it apparently 
  never GOT to Amazon, as I had it on pre-order  
  there, and it is still listed as "to be released" and not shipping :( 
 --- Prem Khanna J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi List,   
I have placed an order for Cary's book 
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  Can Mr.Cary Millsap let me know that ?   
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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
David - You're torturing us man! Lend me your copy so I can read it while
you're working your way down to it. Only fair!



Dennis Williams 
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UPS just delivered my copy of Cary's book to the office!  Can't wait to read
it, but first I plan to finish the books I'm currently reading:

- The Art and Science of Oracle Performance Tuning (Chris Lawson) 
- Oracle SQL High-Performance Tuning (Guy Harrison) 

No telling when I'll get to finish Tom Kyte's new book, which from the first
couple dozen pages appears to be excellent.

So many books, so little time... 


Best regards, 

David B. Wagoner 
Database Administrator 
Arsenal Digital Solutions 


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what was the initial printing? 

congrats Cary. Hope I can get a copy soon. 
 
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 Date: 2003/09/22 Mon AM 09:09:40 EDT 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock ! 
 
 It's up to the publisher as to when they will print more, Cary has no 
 control over that. 
 
 However... it apparently never GOT to Amazon, as I had it on pre-order 
 there, and it is still listed as to be released and not shipping :( 
 
 
 --- Prem Khanna J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Hi List, 
  
  I have placed an order for Cary's book @bookpool. 
  Does someone know when it will be in stock ? 
  
  Can Mr.Cary Millsap let me know that ? 
  
  Regards, 
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Re: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
Title: Message



Also Hillary Rodham Clinton Rodham's book 
-excellent fiction.

Ken Janusz, CPIM


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  And 
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!
UPS just delivered my copy of Cary's book to the 
office! Can't wait to read it, but first I plan to finish the books 
I'm currently reading:
- The Art and Science of Oracle Performance Tuning (Chris 
Lawson) - Oracle SQL High-Performance Tuning (Guy 
Harrison) 
No telling when I'll get to finish Tom Kyte's new book, 
which from the first couple dozen pages appears to be excellent.
So many books, so little time... 
Best regards, 
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what was the initial printing? 
congrats Cary. Hope I can get a copy soon.   From: Rachel Carmichael 
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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread Cary Millsap
I'm not sure what's up with Amazon. It was released last week, and it's
showing up at people's houses now when purchased from other sources.

Consider canceling your Amazon pre-order and buying it direct from
oreilly.com.

...I'm pretty sure it's going to be several months before O'Reilly sells
all the copies they printed.


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what was the initial printing? 

congrats Cary. Hope I can get a copy soon. 
 
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 It's up to the publisher as to when they will print more, Cary has no
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 However... it apparently never GOT to Amazon, as I had it on pre-order
 there, and it is still listed as to be released and not shipping :(
 
 
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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread Cary Millsap
I'm not sure what's up with Amazon. It was released last week, and it's
showing up at people's houses now when purchased from other retailers.

Consider canceling your Amazon pre-order and buying it direct from
oreilly.com.

..I'm pretty sure it's going to be several months before O'Reilly sells
all the copies they printed.


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what was the initial printing? 

congrats Cary. Hope I can get a copy soon. 
 
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 Subject: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !
 
 It's up to the publisher as to when they will print more, Cary has no
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 However... it apparently never GOT to Amazon, as I had it on pre-order
 there, and it is still listed as to be released and not shipping :(
 
 
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  I have placed an order for Cary's book @bookpool.
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  Can Mr.Cary Millsap let me know that ?
  
  Regards,
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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !





Yey  just received my copies of Cary's and Tom's new books. I'll get Toms autographed no 24th, for Cary's it will have to wait till Hotsos'04.

now the sad part ... with the new baby at home, don't know how much time I'll get ... well there is always the lunch time.

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RE: Re: Cary's book -- Out of stock !

2003-09-22 Thread Orr, Steve
I pre-ordered long ago and still have no valid delivery date. When I
check the status of my order it just states, We are preparing these
items for shipment and this portion of your order cannot be canceled or
changed. The where's my stuff page has been saying that for the last
2-3 weeks after stating that the original estimated delivery date was
between Sept 5 and Sept 9. So I don't know when my order will be shipped
but I can't cancel it to do business with an outfit that can give me
good service. Doesn't Amazon use Oracle? Maybe they should read the book
because I'm getting tired of Amazon's version of the wait interface! ;-)


With apologies to Jeremiah, I think I won't be doing business with
Amazon any more. 



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I'm not sure what's up with Amazon. It was released last week, and it's
showing up at people's houses now when purchased from other retailers.

Consider canceling your Amazon pre-order and buying it direct from
oreilly.com.

.I'm pretty sure it's going to be several months before O'Reilly sells
all the copies they printed.


Cary Millsap
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- Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 Dallas
- Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...


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what was the initial printing? 

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 It's up to the publisher as to when they will print more, Cary has no 
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 However... it apparently never GOT to Amazon, as I had it on pre-order

 there, and it is still listed as to be released and not shipping :(
 
 
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  I have placed an order for Cary's book @bookpool.
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