Re: Re: Free Shared pool memory

2003-01-02 Thread chao_ping
Jonathan Lewis,
Hi, lewis,have you ever see any big system with large shared pool 
size? This week I saw a mobile telecom system running ops 8163, have 8GB sga, with 3GB 
of shared_pool_size and About 5GB of data buffer.(Physical memory is  16GB)
I never configured a system with shared_pool_size larger than 200MB(my 
current system is 200MB).But that oracle is installed by oracle china, so i wonder if 
this kind of configuration is reasonable? I do not have enough time to analyze that 
system, but I do not think Oracle china is giving the customer the right parameter 
about shared_pool, can you give your opinion?
Thanks.





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=== 2003-01-02 02:28:00 ,you wrote£º===

I think it's safe to say that if the free memory is always very large
then you can reinterpret it as 'wasted memory'.

If the free memory is alway very small, I don't think it is possible
to make any decision without know the application.  It is possible
that you need to increase the shared pool slightly (good app), it is
also possible that your shared pool is just about the right size
(great
app) , but it is possible that your application design has a flaw in
it.


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Is it Correct to Look at FREE Memory in the Shared Pool ?
Memory when used once thereafter when NO Longer in use does the FREE
Memory again Come up ?
Are there any ideal Values for percentage of Free memory for the
Shared Pool

The Respective Hybrid Application mostly uses Bind Variables

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RE: Re: Free Shared pool memory

2003-01-02 Thread Stephen Lee

How does this grab you?

FTLP show sga

Total System Global Area 2.2596E+10 bytes
Fixed Size   103396 bytes
Variable Size1120354304 bytes
Database Buffers 2.1475E+10 bytes
Redo Buffers1064960 bytes

Got a bad application?  Throw more hardware at it!  QRO! QRO!


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Re: Re: Free Shared pool memory

2003-01-02 Thread Jonathan Lewis

It is often the case that Telecomms companies
end up with a very large SGA.  3Gb does sound
a little suspicious - but it would be silly to judge
it without knowing more background, such as
total number of users, number of applications
embedded within the database, number of CPUs,
nature of work, quality of code.  And, of course,
with 8.1.6.3 it is possible that the memory is
being wasted to work around some bug with
shared SQL handling that might be such an
unusual bug that only that particular company
has come across it.


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Jonathan Lewis,
Hi, lewis,have you ever see any big system with large shared pool
size? This week I saw a mobile telecom system running ops 8163, have
8GB sga, with 3GB of shared_pool_size and About 5GB of data
buffer.(Physical memory is  16GB)
I never configured a system with shared_pool_size larger than 200MB(my
current system is 200MB).But that oracle is installed by oracle china,
so i wonder if this kind of configuration is reasonable? I do not have
enough time to analyze that system, but I do not think Oracle china is
giving the customer the right parameter about shared_pool, can you
give your opinion?
Thanks.






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