RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread Hallas John



Well 
said Mark.
David, 
you could also re-able the constraint 'novalidate' if you wanted to ignore the 
validity of any new input. 
If 
that was the case then why have an integrity constraint in the first 
place?

John

  -Original Message-From: Mark Leith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 28 November 2001 
  10:20To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
  Constrain
  How 
  could this be user proof? You are essentially disabling the constraint that 
  WILL enforce data integrity, then letting the user input whatever rubbish he 
  wants to, and are then going to try and enable the constraint 
  afterwards?
  
  Not 
  a good approach.. How can you ensure that the user hasn't put a duplicate
  value in (unique constraint) or something else that might break the constraint 
  rule? The only way you are going to know is when you try and re-enable the 
  constraint it will fail.. 
  
  I 
  struggle to see why you would want to do this - do you have any 
  more info?
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David WagonerSent: 
27 November 2001 21:30To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then 
Enable Constrain

Listers,

Does 
anyone have a script that will do the 
following:


  Accept 
  user input for old data value 
  Accept 
  user input for new data value 
  Disable 
  table constraint 
  Update 
  record with new data value 
  Enable 
  constraint 

A 
script like this would help ensure that constraints are not left off after 
updates, allowing illegal data into the tables. Good user-proof script I would 
think.


TIA,

david

David 
B. Wagoner
Database 
Administrator
Arsenal 
Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
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RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread David Wagoner









I can see the confusion here. The point is not to let someone enter
data

that would violate the referential integrity. Let me explain with an

example:



1.
User wants to
update a primary key record in parent table

2.
Dependent data
exists in a child table so the user gets an error while trying to perform step
1

3.
It is necessary
to disable the FK constraint in order to update both tables

4.
Enable the FK
constraint successfully





Does that make sense? This is a process we have to do routinely and it has

happened in the past that the FK was mistakenly not
re-enabled, which

allowed illegal data to be loaded later. Thus the need for a script.





David B. Wagoner

Database Administrator

Arsenal Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.

4815 Emperor
Blvd., Suite 110

Durham, NC 27703

Tel. (919)
941-4645

Fax (919)
474-0735

Email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Mark Leith
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
5:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Constrain



How could this be user
proof? You are essentially disabling the constraint that WILL enforce data
integrity, then letting the user input whatever rubbish he wants to, and are
then going to try and enable the constraint afterwards?



Not a good approach.. How
can you ensure that the user hasn't put a duplicate value in (unique
constraint) or something else that might break the constraint rule? The only
way you are going to know is when you try and re-enable the constraint it will
fail.. 



I struggle to see why you
would want to do this - do you have any more info?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wagoner
Sent: 27 November 2001 21:30
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Constrain

Listers,



Does anyone have a script that will do the following:



1. Accept user input for old
data value 

2. Accept user input for new
data value 

3. Disable table constraint 

4. Update record with new data
value 

5. Enable constraint 



A script like this would help ensure that constraints
are not left off after updates, allowing illegal data
into the tables. Good user-proof
script I would think.





TIA,



david



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Database Administrator

Arsenal Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.

4815 Emperor Blvd., Suite 110

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Re: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread Igor Neyman



Not good approach.
Instead, use 'deferrable constraints, should work in your 
situation.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  David Wagoner 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Script to Disable 
  Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const
  
  
  I can see the 
  confusion here. The point is not 
  to let someone enter data
  that would 
  violate the referential integrity. 
  Let me explain with an
  example:
  
  1. 
  User wants to 
  update a primary key record in parent table
  2. 
  Dependent 
  data exists in a child table so the user gets an error while trying to perform 
  step 1
  3. 
  It is 
  necessary to disable the FK constraint in order to update both 
  tables
  4. 
  Enable the FK 
  constraint successfully
  
  
  Does that 
  make sense? This is a process we 
  have to do routinely and it has
  happened in 
  the past that the FK was mistakenly not re-enabled, which
  allowed 
  "illegal" data to be loaded later. 
  Thus the need for a script.
  
  
  David 
  B. Wagoner
  Database 
  Administrator
  Arsenal 
  Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
  4815 
  Emperor Blvd., Suite 110
  Durham, 
  NC 27703
  Tel. 
  (919) 941-4645
  Fax 
  (919) 474-0735
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  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  http://www.arsenaldigital.com/
  
   
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  -Original 
  Message-From: Mark Leith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:20 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of 
  list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
  Constrain
  
  How 
  could this be user proof? You are essentially disabling the constraint that 
  WILL enforce data integrity, then letting the user input whatever rubbish he 
  wants to, and are then going to try and enable the constraint 
  afterwards?
  
  Not a 
  good approach.. How can you ensure that the user hasn't put a duplicate value 
  in (unique constraint) or something else that might break the constraint rule? 
  The only way you are going to know is when you try and re-enable the 
  constraint it will fail.. 
  
  I 
  struggle to see why you would want to do this - do you have any more 
  info?
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David WagonerSent: 27 November 2001 21:30To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Script to 
  Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Constrain
  Listers,
  
  Does 
  anyone have a script that will do the 
  following:
  
  1. 
  Accept 
  user input for old data value 
  2. 
  Accept 
  user input for new data value 
  3. 
  Disable 
  table constraint 
  4. 
  Update 
  record with new data value 
  5. 
  Enable 
  constraint 
  
  
  A 
  script like this would help ensure that constraints are not left "off" after 
  updates, allowing "illegal" data into the tables. Good user-proof script I would 
  think.
  
  
  TIA,
  
  david
  
  David 
  B. Wagoner
  Database 
  Administrator
  Arsenal 
  Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
  4815 
  Emperor Blvd., Suite 110
  Durham, 
  NC 27703
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  (919) 941-4645
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  http://www.arsenaldigital.com/
  
   
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RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread tday6

OK.  Here's what I do in that situation:

Here's the main driver

-- disable foreign keys on parent_table.column
alter table CHILD1 disable constraint FK1;
alter table CHILD2 disable constraint FK2;
--run the detail_update.sql for each pair of values, ie, the current value
and the
-- value that it will be set to
@ex_detail_update
-- re-enable foreign keys on parent_table.column
alter table CHILD1 enable constraint FK1;
alter table CHILD2 enable constraint FK2;

Here's the ex_detail_update.sql  - basically it will replace parameter 1
with parameter 2

@detail_update 1012 1013
@detail_update 1011 1012
@detail_update 1010 1011
@detail_update 1009 1010

Here's where the nitty gritty happens -- detail_update.sql

update table CHILD1 set FK_ID = 2 where FK_ID = 1;
update table CHILD2 set FK_ID = 2 where FK_ID = 1;
update table PARENT set PK_ID = 2 where PK_ID = 1;

COMMIT
/

When it's done it falls out to the next set of pairs.  When you run out of
pairs then the top level script will re-enable your constraints.



   

David Wagoner  

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I can see the confusion here.  The point is not to let someone enter data

that would violate the referential integrity.  Let me explain with an

example:



1.    User wants to update a primary key record in parent table

2.    Dependent data exists in a child table so the user gets an error
while trying to perform step

3.    It is necessary to disable the FK constraint in order to update
both tables

4.    Enable the FK constraint successfully





Does that make sense?  This is a process we have to do routinely and it has

happened in the past that the FK was mistakenly not re-enabled, which

allowed illegal data to be loaded later.  Thus the need for a script.





David B. Wagoner

Database Administrator

Arsenal Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.

4815 Emperor Blvd., Suite 110

Durham, NC 27703

Tel. (919) 941-4645

Fax (919) 474-0735

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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Constrain



How could this be user proof? You are essentially disabling the constraint
that WILL enforce data integrity, then letting the user input whatever
rubbish he wants to, and are then going to try and enable the constraint
afterwards?



Not a good approach.. How can you ensure that the user hasn't put a
duplicate value in (unique constraint) or something else that might break
the constraint rule? The only way you are going to know is when you try and
re-enable the constraint it will fail..



I struggle to see why you would want to do this - do you have any more
info?

-Original Message-
ner
Sent: 27 November 2001 21:30
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
ain

Listers,



Does anyone have a script that will do the following:



1.   Accept user input for old data value

2.   Accept user input for new data value

3.   Disable table constraint

4.   Update record with new data value

5.   Enable constraint



A script like this would help ensure that constraints are not left off
after updates, allowing illegal data into the tables.  Good user-proof
script I

Re: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread Stephane Faroult

As far as I remember, there is such a script at http://www.oriole.com,
in the X-rated section - as the name implies, not full-heartedly
recommended.
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Fax:+44  (0) 7050-696-449 
Performance Tools  Free Scripts
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RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)



I have 
had the same type of requirement and decided to use deferrable constraints. 

Works 
great!

Rick

  -Original Message-From: Igor Neyman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 
  11:56 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Re: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
  Const
  Not good approach.
  Instead, use 'deferrable constraints, should work in your 
  situation.
  
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
David Wagoner 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 
11:24 AM
Subject: RE: Script to Disable 
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const


I can see 
the confusion here. The point 
is not to let someone enter data
that would 
violate the referential integrity. 
Let me explain with an
example:

1. 
User wants 
to update a primary key record in parent table
2. 
Dependent 
data exists in a child table so the user gets an error while trying to 
perform step 1
3. 
It is 
necessary to disable the FK constraint in order to update both 
tables
4. 
Enable the 
FK constraint successfully


Does that 
make sense? This is a process 
we have to do routinely and it has
happened in 
the past that the FK was mistakenly not re-enabled, which
allowed 
"illegal" data to be loaded later. 
Thus the need for a script.


David 
B. Wagoner
Database 
Administrator
Arsenal 
Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
4815 
Emperor Blvd., Suite 110
Durham, 
NC 27703
Tel. 
(919) 941-4645
Fax 
(919) 474-0735
Email 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web 
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Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:20 
AMTo: Multiple recipients 
of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
Constrain

How 
could this be user proof? You are essentially disabling the constraint that 
WILL enforce data integrity, then letting the user input whatever rubbish he 
wants to, and are then going to try and enable the constraint 
afterwards?

Not a 
good approach.. How can you ensure that the user hasn't put a duplicate 
value in (unique constraint) or something else that might break the 
constraint rule? The only way you are going to know is when you try and 
re-enable the constraint it will fail.. 

I 
struggle to see why you would want to do this - do you have any more 
info?
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David WagonerSent: 27 November 2001 
21:30To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Script to Disable Constraint, 
Change Value, then Enable Constrain
Listers,

Does 
anyone have a script that will do the 
following:

1. 
Accept 
user input for old data value 
2. 
Accept 
user input for new data value 
3. 
Disable 
table constraint 
4. 
Update 
record with new data value 
5. 
Enable 
constraint 


A 
script like this would help ensure that constraints are not left "off" after 
updates, allowing "illegal" data into the tables. Good user-proof script I would 
think.


TIA,

david

David 
B. Wagoner
Database 
Administrator
Arsenal 
Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
4815 
Emperor Blvd., Suite 110
Durham, 
NC 27703
Tel. 
(919) 941-4645
Fax 
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RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread David Wagoner









Rick,
thanks for your input. When I test
the deferred constraint in SQL*Plus I get an error. What am I doing wrong?
I did not find much information in the docs about deferred constraints.







 SQL set constraints all deferred

 2 update table1 set host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name =
'tiger'

 3* update table2 set host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name =
'tiger';



SQL 

update
host set host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name = 'tiger'

*

ERROR at
line 2:

ORA-00933:
SQL command not properly ended







TIA,



David B. Wagoner

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Blvd., Suite 110

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
12:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const



I have had the same type
of requirement and decided to use deferrable constraints. 

Works great!



Rick

-Original Message-
From: Igor Neyman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
11:56 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

Not good approach.

Instead, use 'deferrable constraints,
should work in your situation.



Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 



-
Original Message - 



From: David
Wagoner 



To: Multiple
recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Wednesday, November 28,
2001 11:24 AM

Subject: RE:
Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const



I can see the
confusion here. The point is not
to let someone enter data

that would
violate the referential integrity.
Let me explain with an

example:







1. User wants to update a primary key record in parent
table

2. Dependent data exists in a child table so the user
gets an error while trying to perform step 1

3. It is necessary to disable the FK constraint in order
to update both tables

4. Enable the FK constraint successfully









Does that make
sense? This is a process we have
to do routinely and it has

happened in the
past that the FK was mistakenly not re-enabled, which

allowed
illegal data to be loaded later. Thus the need for a script.





David B. Wagoner

Database Administrator

Arsenal Digital Solutions
Worldwide Inc.

4815 Emperor Blvd., Suite 110

Durham, NC 27703

Tel. (919) 941-4645

Fax (919) 474-0735

Email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Web http://www.arsenaldigital.com/




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-Original Message-
From: Mark Leith
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
5:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Constrain



How could this be user proof? You are essentially disabling the
constraint that WILL enforce data integrity, then letting the user input
whatever rubbish he wants to, and are then going to try and enable the
constraint afterwards?



Not a good approach.. How can you ensure that the user hasn't put a
duplicate value in (unique constraint) or something else that might break the
constraint rule? The only way you are going to know is when you try and
re-enable the constraint it will fail.. 



I struggle to see why you would want to do this - do you have any
more info?





-Original
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David
Wagoner
Sent: 27 November 2001 21:30
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Constrain

Listers,



Does anyone have a script
that will do the following:







1.
Accept user input for old data value 

2.
Accept user input for new data value 

3.
Disable table constraint 

4.
Update record with new data value 

5.
Enable constraint 







A script like this would
help ensure that constraints are not left off after updates,
allowing illegal data into the tables. Good user-proof script I would think.





TIA,



david



David B. Wagoner

Database

RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)




David,

You 
need a semi-colon after line2 i.e., update table1 ...;

Rick

  -Original Message-From: David Wagoner 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 
  2001 1:16 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, 
  then Enable Const
  
  Rick, 
  thanks for your input. When I 
  test the deferred constraint in SQL*Plus I get an error. What am I doing wrong? I did not find much information in the 
  docs about deferred constraints.
  
  
  
   SQL set constraints all 
  deferred
   2 update table1 set host_name = 'tigerz' 
  where host_name = 'tiger'
   3* update table2 set host_name = 
  'tigerz' where host_name = 'tiger';
  
  SQL 
  
  update 
  host set host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name = 
  'tiger'
  *
  ERROR 
  at line 2:
  ORA-00933: 
  SQL command not properly ended
  
  
  
  TIA,
  
  David 
  B. Wagoner
  Database 
  Administrator
  Arsenal 
  Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
  4815 
  Emperor Blvd., Suite 110
  Durham, 
  NC 27703
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  T (Richard) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:29 
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  list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
Const
  
  I have 
  had the same type of requirement and decided to use deferrable constraints. 
  
  Works 
  great!
  
  Rick
  -Original 
  Message-From: Igor 
  Neyman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:56 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of 
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  Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
  Const
  Not good approach.
  Instead, use 'deferrable constraints, 
  should work in your situation.
  
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  - Original 
  Message - 
  
  From: David Wagoner 
  
  
  To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 
  28, 2001 11:24 AM
  Subject: RE: Script to 
  Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const
  
  I can see the 
  confusion here. The point is not 
  to let someone enter data
  that would 
  violate the referential integrity. 
  Let me explain with an
  example:
  
  
  1. 
  User wants to 
  update a primary key record in parent table
  2. 
  Dependent 
  data exists in a child table so the user gets an error while trying to perform 
  step 1
  3. 
  It is 
  necessary to disable the FK constraint in order to update both 
  tables
  4. 
  Enable the FK 
  constraint successfully
  
  
  
  Does that 
  make sense? This is a process we 
  have to do routinely and it has
  happened in 
  the past that the FK was mistakenly not re-enabled, which
  allowed 
  "illegal" data to be loaded later. 
  Thus the need for a script.
  
  
  David 
  B. Wagoner
  Database 
  Administrator
  Arsenal 
  Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
  4815 
  Emperor Blvd., Suite 110
  Durham, 
  NC 27703
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  (919) 941-4645
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  Message-From: Mark Leith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:20 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of 
  list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
  Constrain
  
  How could this be 
  user proof? You are essentially disabling the constraint that WILL enforce 
  data integrity, then letting the user input whatever rubbish he wants to, and 
  are then going to try and enable the constraint afterwards?
  
  Not a good approach.. 
  How can you ensure that the user hasn't put a duplicate value in (unique 
  constraint) or something else that might break the constraint rule? The only 
  way you are going to know is when you try and re-enable the constraint it will 
  fail.. 
  
  I struggle to see why 
  you would want to do this - do you have any more info?
  
  -Original 
  Message-From:

RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread David Wagoner









I know it
looks like a semi-colon error, but its not. Please send me one of your examples that you know works and
Ill modify and try here.







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From: Cale, Rick T (Richard)
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
2:35 PM
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Subject: RE: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const



David,



You need a semi-colon
after line2 i.e., update table1 ...;



Rick

-Original Message-
From: David Wagoner
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
1:16 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
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Subject: RE: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

Rick, thanks for your input. When I test the deferred constraint in
SQL*Plus I get an error. What am I
doing wrong? I did not find much
information in the docs about deferred constraints.







 SQL
set constraints all deferred

 2 update table1 set host_name = 'tigerz'
where host_name = 'tiger'

 3* update table2 set
host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name = 'tiger';



SQL 

update host set host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name
= 'tiger'

*

ERROR at line 2:

ORA-00933: SQL command not properly ended







TIA,



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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
12:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const



I have
had the same type of requirement and decided to use deferrable constraints. 

Works
great!



Rick

-Original Message-
From: Igor Neyman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
11:56 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
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Subject: Re: Script to Disable
Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

Not good approach.

Instead, use 'deferrable constraints,
should work in your situation.



Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 



-
Original Message - 







From: David
Wagoner 









To: Multiple
recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Wednesday, November 28,
2001 11:24 AM

Subject: RE:
Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const



I can see the
confusion here. The point is not
to let someone enter data

that would violate
the referential integrity. Let me
explain with an

example:







1. User wants to update a primary key record in parent
table

2. Dependent data exists in a child table so the user
gets an error while trying to perform step 1

3. It is necessary to disable the FK constraint in order
to update both tables

4. Enable the FK constraint successfully









Does that make
sense? This is a process we have
to do routinely and it has

happened in the
past that the FK was mistakenly not re-enabled, which

allowed
illegal data to be loaded later. Thus the need for a script.





David B. Wagoner

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Arsenal Digital Solutions
Worldwide Inc.

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-Original Message-
From: Mark Leith
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001
5:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Script

RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const

2001-11-28 Thread Khedr, Waleed



You 
have to create the constraints to support the deferred mode. Drop them and 
recreate them DEFERRABLE.

Also you 
can't do edit in SQLPLUS and put these three lines in one 
window.
Either put 
them in notepad and then cut and paste in sqlplus directly or create sql script 
that look like:

set 
constraints all deferred;
update 
table1 set host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name = 'tiger';
update 
table2 set host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name = 'tiger';

Regards,

Waleed


  -Original Message-From: David Wagoner 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 
  2001 1:15 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, 
  then Enable Const
  
  Rick, 
  thanks for your input. When I 
  test the deferred constraint in SQL*Plus I get an error. What am I doing wrong? I did not find much information in the 
  docs about deferred constraints.
  
  
  
   SQL set constraints all 
  deferred
   2 update table1 set host_name = 'tigerz' 
  where host_name = 'tiger'
   3* update table2 set host_name = 
  'tigerz' where host_name = 'tiger';
  
  SQL 
  
  update 
  host set host_name = 'tigerz' where host_name = 
  'tiger'
  *
  ERROR 
  at line 2:
  ORA-00933: 
  SQL command not properly ended
  
  
  
  TIA,
  
  David 
  B. Wagoner
  Database 
  Administrator
  Arsenal 
  Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
  4815 
  Emperor Blvd., Suite 110
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  NC 27703
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  Message-From: Cale, Rick 
  T (Richard) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:29 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of 
  list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
Const
  
  I have 
  had the same type of requirement and decided to use deferrable constraints. 
  
  Works 
  great!
  
  Rick
  -Original 
  Message-From: Igor 
  Neyman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:56 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of 
  list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
  Const
  Not good approach.
  Instead, use 'deferrable constraints, 
  should work in your situation.
  
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  - Original 
  Message - 
  
  From: David Wagoner 
  
  
  To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 
  28, 2001 11:24 AM
  Subject: RE: Script to 
  Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable Const
  
  I can see the 
  confusion here. The point is not 
  to let someone enter data
  that would 
  violate the referential integrity. 
  Let me explain with an
  example:
  
  
  1. 
  User wants to 
  update a primary key record in parent table
  2. 
  Dependent 
  data exists in a child table so the user gets an error while trying to perform 
  step 1
  3. 
  It is 
  necessary to disable the FK constraint in order to update both 
  tables
  4. 
  Enable the FK 
  constraint successfully
  
  
  
  Does that 
  make sense? This is a process we 
  have to do routinely and it has
  happened in 
  the past that the FK was mistakenly not re-enabled, which
  allowed 
  "illegal" data to be loaded later. 
  Thus the need for a script.
  
  
  David 
  B. Wagoner
  Database 
  Administrator
  Arsenal 
  Digital Solutions Worldwide Inc.
  4815 
  Emperor Blvd., Suite 110
  Durham, 
  NC 27703
  Tel. 
  (919) 941-4645
  Fax 
  (919) 474-0735
  Email 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Web 
  http://www.arsenaldigital.com/
  
   
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  Message-From: Mark Leith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:20 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of 
  list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Script to Disable Constraint, Change Value, then Enable 
  Constrain
  
  How could this be 
  user proof? You are essentially disabling the constraint that WILL enforce 
  data integrity, then letting the user input whatever rubbish he wants to, and 
  are then going to try and enable the constraint