RE: Should each partition have it's own tablespace and

2001-04-12 Thread paquette stephane

It depends on the situation.
In a previous project (Oracle 8), I've put each
partition in its own tablespace. I was lucky that for
each fact tables the partition were the same size.
If you're partitionning by time, it eases data
suppression (drop partition and drop tablespace). 

If you have too many small partitions, having them in
a specific tablespace will create more management than
gain.


"The developers have resigned themselves to purge
out some of the old data and get rid of partitions
that are more than two years old."
The developpers are deciding what to do with the 
data ???   Shouldn't be the end-users who decided what
to do with their data ?




--- Binley Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hmmm, it depends on the situation. There are pros
 and cons in both, but certainly partitions should be
 in partitions-only tablespaces.
 
 Unless you can size the partitions with great
 accuracy, you would have to build in reasonably
 free-space in the TBS. If you have overdone this,
 you would have to come back and resize. This would
 be a very tedious way of managing 100 tablespaces. 
 
 If you group the partitions in some logical manner,
 you can put them in the same TBS, and pool the
 free-space to allow for un-predicted growth, and
 minimise waste.
 
 I am unclear why exp/imp is going to free up more
 space than dropping partitions, unless its severely
 fragmented. Keeping to uniform extents will get rid
 of this problem.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 08:12AM 
 Hi Cherie,
  I am in favor of one tablespace per partition. For
 availablity and
 maintenance purposes it certainly helps us in our
 environment. I have
 implemented this concept in our data mart database
 which is is now around
 90GB. There are multiple datafiles per tablepace
 each representing an extent
 (~500 MB). We load data to this database once a
 month, so I am not too
 concerned with the checkpoint times etc. (due to a
 number of data files).
 There are 4 large tables with 10 partitions so far
 (one per year). Each
 table has 2-3 indexes, all locally partitioned.
 Again each in its own
 tablespace. Partitioning key is the 4 digit year.
 All tablespaces and
 partition names contain the 2 digit year for ease of
 understanding what's in
 them. Partitioned table data and partitioned index
 data is placed on
 physically separate storage devices. Since, all the
 data comes from other
 legacy (or otherwise, internal) systems, we do not
 have a partition for
 'MAXVALUE', and that saves me a lot of work when
 adding new partitions for
 new years (did that for 2000 and 2001). Working very
 well for the last 2
 years now, started out with 8.0 and recently
 upgraded to 8.1.7. All this was
 done as a parallel process and soon (next month) it
 will all be 'real'
 production with one more set of storage devices to
 split data and index
 further. 
 
 HTH..   
 
 - Kirti Deshpande 
   Verizon Information Services
http://www.superpages.com 
 
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  Sent:   Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:06 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:Should each partition have it's own
 tablespace and datafile?
  
  
  We have a 120 Gig datawarehouse that uses
  more than 100 date-based partitions.  For
 financial
  and political reasons, we have run out of disk
 space
  to give this database as it continues in it's
 relentless
  growth.
  
  The developers have resigned themselves to purge
  out some of the old data and get rid of partitions
 that
  are more than two years old.
  
  We currently have about ten tablespaces that
 contain
  all of the data and indexes for this database. 
 There is
  a small, medium, and large tablespace for data and
  for indexes plus some other specialized
 tablespaces
  by functionality.
  
  Anyway, dropping a couple dozen of these
 partitions
  is not going to be enough to free up some disk
 space
  for us.  Instead we're going to have to export our
 data,
  drop the tablespaces, and recreate them as a
 smaller
  size and then reimport the data minus the dropped
  partitions.
  
  Since we're going to all of this work, I'm
 wondering
  if we should reorg these partitions by creating a
 tablespace
  for each partition and a single datafile for each
 tablespace.
  That way in the future, every time we want to drop
 a partition,
  it will be very easy to reclaim the disk space
 associated with
  that partition.  I don't want to have to do these
 reorgs every
  month.
  
  How do most places physically lay out their
 partitions?
  What is the downside of having a datafile for each
 partition?
  Wasted space?  Would a compromise be to assign
  six months worth of partitions to a single
 tablespace?
  
  We are currently on version 8.0.4 of Oracle on Sun
 Solaris 2.6
  but we will be upgrading soon to 8.1.7.  Looks
 like I may need
  to reorg this before we can upgrade as we are
 rapidly running
  out of room.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Cherie 

RE: Should each partition have it's own tablespace and

2001-04-12 Thread Mark Leith

A little off topic from the subject line -

I admit I have not even tried to RTFM on this. If you have each partition of
a table in a seperate TS, what would happen if you wanted to MERGE the
partitions? Would Oracle merge the TS? I don't use them, and am not going to
either:) Just curious..

Cheers

Mark

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Hmmm, it depends on the situation. There are pros and cons in both, but
certainly partitions should be in partitions-only tablespaces.

Unless you can size the partitions with great accuracy, you would have to
build in reasonably free-space in the TBS. If you have overdone this, you
would have to come back and resize. This would be a very tedious way of
managing 100 tablespaces.

If you group the partitions in some logical manner, you can put them in the
same TBS, and pool the free-space to allow for un-predicted growth, and
minimise waste.

I am unclear why exp/imp is going to free up more space than dropping
partitions, unless its severely fragmented. Keeping to uniform extents will
get rid of this problem.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 08:12AM 
Hi Cherie,
 I am in favor of one tablespace per partition. For availablity and
maintenance purposes it certainly helps us in our environment. I have
implemented this concept in our data mart database which is is now around
90GB. There are multiple datafiles per tablepace each representing an extent
(~500 MB). We load data to this database once a month, so I am not too
concerned with the checkpoint times etc. (due to a number of data files).
There are 4 large tables with 10 partitions so far (one per year). Each
table has 2-3 indexes, all locally partitioned. Again each in its own
tablespace. Partitioning key is the 4 digit year. All tablespaces and
partition names contain the 2 digit year for ease of understanding what's in
them. Partitioned table data and partitioned index data is placed on
physically separate storage devices. Since, all the data comes from other
legacy (or otherwise, internal) systems, we do not have a partition for
'MAXVALUE', and that saves me a lot of work when adding new partitions for
new years (did that for 2000 and 2001). Working very well for the last 2
years now, started out with 8.0 and recently upgraded to 8.1.7. All this was
done as a parallel process and soon (next month) it will all be 'real'
production with one more set of storage devices to split data and index
further.

HTH..

- Kirti Deshpande
  Verizon Information Services
   http://www.superpages.com

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:06 PM
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 Subject:  Should each partition have it's own tablespace and datafile?


 We have a 120 Gig datawarehouse that uses
 more than 100 date-based partitions.  For financial
 and political reasons, we have run out of disk space
 to give this database as it continues in it's relentless
 growth.

 The developers have resigned themselves to purge
 out some of the old data and get rid of partitions that
 are more than two years old.

 We currently have about ten tablespaces that contain
 all of the data and indexes for this database.  There is
 a small, medium, and large tablespace for data and
 for indexes plus some other specialized tablespaces
 by functionality.

 Anyway, dropping a couple dozen of these partitions
 is not going to be enough to free up some disk space
 for us.  Instead we're going to have to export our data,
 drop the tablespaces, and recreate them as a smaller
 size and then reimport the data minus the dropped
 partitions.

 Since we're going to all of this work, I'm wondering
 if we should reorg these partitions by creating a tablespace
 for each partition and a single datafile for each tablespace.
 That way in the future, every time we want to drop a partition,
 it will be very easy to reclaim the disk space associated with
 that partition.  I don't want to have to do these reorgs every
 month.

 How do most places physically lay out their partitions?
 What is the downside of having a datafile for each partition?
 Wasted space?  Would a compromise be to assign
 six months worth of partitions to a single tablespace?

 We are currently on version 8.0.4 of Oracle on Sun Solaris 2.6
 but we will be upgrading soon to 8.1.7.  Looks like I may need
 to reorg this before we can upgrade as we are rapidly running
 out of room.

 Thanks,

 Cherie Machler
 Gelco Information Network

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RE: Should each partition have it's own tablespace and

2001-04-12 Thread Tim Sawmiller

You would have to decide what tablespace ends up being the target for the merged 
partitions.  This is obviously a design change and needs to be dealt with accordingly.



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 07:46AM 
A little off topic from the subject line -

I admit I have not even tried to RTFM on this. If you have each partition of
a table in a seperate TS, what would happen if you wanted to MERGE the
partitions? Would Oracle merge the TS? I don't use them, and am not going to
either:) Just curious..

Cheers

Mark

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 01:46
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Hmmm, it depends on the situation. There are pros and cons in both, but
certainly partitions should be in partitions-only tablespaces.

Unless you can size the partitions with great accuracy, you would have to
build in reasonably free-space in the TBS. If you have overdone this, you
would have to come back and resize. This would be a very tedious way of
managing 100 tablespaces.

If you group the partitions in some logical manner, you can put them in the
same TBS, and pool the free-space to allow for un-predicted growth, and
minimise waste.

I am unclear why exp/imp is going to free up more space than dropping
partitions, unless its severely fragmented. Keeping to uniform extents will
get rid of this problem.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 08:12AM 
Hi Cherie,
 I am in favor of one tablespace per partition. For availablity and
maintenance purposes it certainly helps us in our environment. I have
implemented this concept in our data mart database which is is now around
90GB. There are multiple datafiles per tablepace each representing an extent
(~500 MB). We load data to this database once a month, so I am not too
concerned with the checkpoint times etc. (due to a number of data files).
There are 4 large tables with 10 partitions so far (one per year). Each
table has 2-3 indexes, all locally partitioned. Again each in its own
tablespace. Partitioning key is the 4 digit year. All tablespaces and
partition names contain the 2 digit year for ease of understanding what's in
them. Partitioned table data and partitioned index data is placed on
physically separate storage devices. Since, all the data comes from other
legacy (or otherwise, internal) systems, we do not have a partition for
'MAXVALUE', and that saves me a lot of work when adding new partitions for
new years (did that for 2000 and 2001). Working very well for the last 2
years now, started out with 8.0 and recently upgraded to 8.1.7. All this was
done as a parallel process and soon (next month) it will all be 'real'
production with one more set of storage devices to split data and index
further.

HTH..

- Kirti Deshpande
  Verizon Information Services
   http://www.superpages.com 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:06 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Should each partition have it's own tablespace and datafile?


 We have a 120 Gig datawarehouse that uses
 more than 100 date-based partitions.  For financial
 and political reasons, we have run out of disk space
 to give this database as it continues in it's relentless
 growth.

 The developers have resigned themselves to purge
 out some of the old data and get rid of partitions that
 are more than two years old.

 We currently have about ten tablespaces that contain
 all of the data and indexes for this database.  There is
 a small, medium, and large tablespace for data and
 for indexes plus some other specialized tablespaces
 by functionality.

 Anyway, dropping a couple dozen of these partitions
 is not going to be enough to free up some disk space
 for us.  Instead we're going to have to export our data,
 drop the tablespaces, and recreate them as a smaller
 size and then reimport the data minus the dropped
 partitions.

 Since we're going to all of this work, I'm wondering
 if we should reorg these partitions by creating a tablespace
 for each partition and a single datafile for each tablespace.
 That way in the future, every time we want to drop a partition,
 it will be very easy to reclaim the disk space associated with
 that partition.  I don't want to have to do these reorgs every
 month.

 How do most places physically lay out their partitions?
 What is the downside of having a datafile for each partition?
 Wasted space?  Would a compromise be to assign
 six months worth of partitions to a single tablespace?

 We are currently on version 8.0.4 of Oracle on Sun Solaris 2.6
 but we will be upgrading soon to 8.1.7.  Looks like I may need
 to reorg this before we can upgrade as we are rapidly running
 out of room.

 Thanks,

 Cherie Machler
 Gelco Information Network

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Re: Should each partition have it's own tablespace and datafile?

2001-04-12 Thread Jenny Jacobson

One tablespace per partition.  

If you're not sure of the final size of the partition, 
consider putting each tablespace file
with autoexend ON and specify max filesize (MAXSIZE).

For example:  if partition extent size is 10M, the autoextend value could
be 100M to have room for 10 more extents.  This tip helps avoid a lot of
wasted space AND/OR getting calls in the middle of the night to make the
filesize larger.  Be sure the autoextend does not attempt to extend
the filesize beyond the capacity of the disk.  Sizes chosen would
depend upon your knowledge of the partition size needed to hold the data
and your strategy.  Could also autoextend at 10M, but performance would
be affected if a lot of new extents were added during a load.

Syntax:
CREATE TABLESPACE CUST_DATA_0401
   DATAFILE '/u5/oracle/oradata/data/cust_data_0401.dbf'
   SIZE 100M
AUTOEXTEND ON
NEXT 100M
MAXSIZE 500M;

and the corresponding index - file size dependent upon how many indexes
present on the table and how large the column sizes are.  If you have
five indexes (in a datawarehousing environment), the size of the index
tablespace COULD be larger than the corresponding data tablespace.

CREATE TABLESPACE CUST_IDX_0401
   DATAFILE '/u06/oracle/oradata/index/cust_idx_0401.dbf'
   SIZE 50M
AUTOEXTEND ON
NEXT 10M
MAXSIZE 300M;



Jenny Jacobson
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Member - RMP Consulting Partners LLC - Member NAACB
Available for project


On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 We have a 120 Gig datawarehouse that uses
 more than 100 date-based partitions.  For financial
 and political reasons, we have run out of disk space
 to give this database as it continues in it's relentless
 growth.
 
 The developers have resigned themselves to purge
 out some of the old data and get rid of partitions that
 are more than two years old.
 
 We currently have about ten tablespaces that contain
 all of the data and indexes for this database.  There is
 a small, medium, and large tablespace for data and
 for indexes plus some other specialized tablespaces
 by functionality.
 
 Anyway, dropping a couple dozen of these partitions
 is not going to be enough to free up some disk space
 for us.  Instead we're going to have to export our data,
 drop the tablespaces, and recreate them as a smaller
 size and then reimport the data minus the dropped
 partitions.
 
 Since we're going to all of this work, I'm wondering
 if we should reorg these partitions by creating a tablespace
 for each partition and a single datafile for each tablespace.
 That way in the future, every time we want to drop a partition,
 it will be very easy to reclaim the disk space associated with
 that partition.  I don't want to have to do these reorgs every
 month.
 
 How do most places physically lay out their partitions?
 What is the downside of having a datafile for each partition?
 Wasted space?  Would a compromise be to assign
 six months worth of partitions to a single tablespace?
 
 We are currently on version 8.0.4 of Oracle on Sun Solaris 2.6
 but we will be upgrading soon to 8.1.7.  Looks like I may need
 to reorg this before we can upgrade as we are rapidly running
 out of room.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cherie Machler
 Gelco Information Network
 
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RE: Should each partition have it's own tablespace and datafile?

2001-04-11 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi Cherie,
 I am in favor of one tablespace per partition. For availablity and
maintenance purposes it certainly helps us in our environment. I have
implemented this concept in our data mart database which is is now around
90GB. There are multiple datafiles per tablepace each representing an extent
(~500 MB). We load data to this database once a month, so I am not too
concerned with the checkpoint times etc. (due to a number of data files).
There are 4 large tables with 10 partitions so far (one per year). Each
table has 2-3 indexes, all locally partitioned. Again each in its own
tablespace. Partitioning key is the 4 digit year. All tablespaces and
partition names contain the 2 digit year for ease of understanding what's in
them. Partitioned table data and partitioned index data is placed on
physically separate storage devices. Since, all the data comes from other
legacy (or otherwise, internal) systems, we do not have a partition for
'MAXVALUE', and that saves me a lot of work when adding new partitions for
new years (did that for 2000 and 2001). Working very well for the last 2
years now, started out with 8.0 and recently upgraded to 8.1.7. All this was
done as a parallel process and soon (next month) it will all be 'real'
production with one more set of storage devices to split data and index
further. 

HTH..   

- Kirti Deshpande 
  Verizon Information Services
   http://www.superpages.com

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:06 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Should each partition have it's own tablespace and datafile?
 
 
 We have a 120 Gig datawarehouse that uses
 more than 100 date-based partitions.  For financial
 and political reasons, we have run out of disk space
 to give this database as it continues in it's relentless
 growth.
 
 The developers have resigned themselves to purge
 out some of the old data and get rid of partitions that
 are more than two years old.
 
 We currently have about ten tablespaces that contain
 all of the data and indexes for this database.  There is
 a small, medium, and large tablespace for data and
 for indexes plus some other specialized tablespaces
 by functionality.
 
 Anyway, dropping a couple dozen of these partitions
 is not going to be enough to free up some disk space
 for us.  Instead we're going to have to export our data,
 drop the tablespaces, and recreate them as a smaller
 size and then reimport the data minus the dropped
 partitions.
 
 Since we're going to all of this work, I'm wondering
 if we should reorg these partitions by creating a tablespace
 for each partition and a single datafile for each tablespace.
 That way in the future, every time we want to drop a partition,
 it will be very easy to reclaim the disk space associated with
 that partition.  I don't want to have to do these reorgs every
 month.
 
 How do most places physically lay out their partitions?
 What is the downside of having a datafile for each partition?
 Wasted space?  Would a compromise be to assign
 six months worth of partitions to a single tablespace?
 
 We are currently on version 8.0.4 of Oracle on Sun Solaris 2.6
 but we will be upgrading soon to 8.1.7.  Looks like I may need
 to reorg this before we can upgrade as we are rapidly running
 out of room.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cherie Machler
 Gelco Information Network
 
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Re: Should each partition have it's own tablespace and datafile?

2001-04-11 Thread Paul Baumgartel

In my experience, a separate tablespace per partition is advisable; you
don't get the full benefit of partition management options otherwise.

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 We have a 120 Gig datawarehouse that uses
 more than 100 date-based partitions.  For financial
 and political reasons, we have run out of disk space
 to give this database as it continues in it's relentless
 growth.

 The developers have resigned themselves to purge
 out some of the old data and get rid of partitions that
 are more than two years old.

 We currently have about ten tablespaces that contain
 all of the data and indexes for this database.  There is
 a small, medium, and large tablespace for data and
 for indexes plus some other specialized tablespaces
 by functionality.

 Anyway, dropping a couple dozen of these partitions
 is not going to be enough to free up some disk space
 for us.  Instead we're going to have to export our data,
 drop the tablespaces, and recreate them as a smaller
 size and then reimport the data minus the dropped
 partitions.

 Since we're going to all of this work, I'm wondering
 if we should reorg these partitions by creating a tablespace
 for each partition and a single datafile for each tablespace.
 That way in the future, every time we want to drop a partition,
 it will be very easy to reclaim the disk space associated with
 that partition.  I don't want to have to do these reorgs every
 month.

 How do most places physically lay out their partitions?
 What is the downside of having a datafile for each partition?
 Wasted space?  Would a compromise be to assign
 six months worth of partitions to a single tablespace?

 We are currently on version 8.0.4 of Oracle on Sun Solaris 2.6
 but we will be upgrading soon to 8.1.7.  Looks like I may need
 to reorg this before we can upgrade as we are rapidly running
 out of room.

 Thanks,

 Cherie Machler
 Gelco Information Network

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RE: Should each partition have it's own tablespace and

2001-04-11 Thread Binley Lim


Hmmm, it depends on the situation. There are pros and cons in both, but certainly 
partitions should be in partitions-only tablespaces.

Unless you can size the partitions with great accuracy, you would have to build in 
reasonably free-space in the TBS. If you have overdone this, you would have to come 
back and resize. This would be a very tedious way of managing 100 tablespaces. 

If you group the partitions in some logical manner, you can put them in the same TBS, 
and pool the free-space to allow for un-predicted growth, and minimise waste.

I am unclear why exp/imp is going to free up more space than dropping partitions, 
unless its severely fragmented. Keeping to uniform extents will get rid of this 
problem.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 08:12AM 
Hi Cherie,
 I am in favor of one tablespace per partition. For availablity and
maintenance purposes it certainly helps us in our environment. I have
implemented this concept in our data mart database which is is now around
90GB. There are multiple datafiles per tablepace each representing an extent
(~500 MB). We load data to this database once a month, so I am not too
concerned with the checkpoint times etc. (due to a number of data files).
There are 4 large tables with 10 partitions so far (one per year). Each
table has 2-3 indexes, all locally partitioned. Again each in its own
tablespace. Partitioning key is the 4 digit year. All tablespaces and
partition names contain the 2 digit year for ease of understanding what's in
them. Partitioned table data and partitioned index data is placed on
physically separate storage devices. Since, all the data comes from other
legacy (or otherwise, internal) systems, we do not have a partition for
'MAXVALUE', and that saves me a lot of work when adding new partitions for
new years (did that for 2000 and 2001). Working very well for the last 2
years now, started out with 8.0 and recently upgraded to 8.1.7. All this was
done as a parallel process and soon (next month) it will all be 'real'
production with one more set of storage devices to split data and index
further. 

HTH..   

- Kirti Deshpande 
  Verizon Information Services
   http://www.superpages.com 

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 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Should each partition have it's own tablespace and datafile?
 
 
 We have a 120 Gig datawarehouse that uses
 more than 100 date-based partitions.  For financial
 and political reasons, we have run out of disk space
 to give this database as it continues in it's relentless
 growth.
 
 The developers have resigned themselves to purge
 out some of the old data and get rid of partitions that
 are more than two years old.
 
 We currently have about ten tablespaces that contain
 all of the data and indexes for this database.  There is
 a small, medium, and large tablespace for data and
 for indexes plus some other specialized tablespaces
 by functionality.
 
 Anyway, dropping a couple dozen of these partitions
 is not going to be enough to free up some disk space
 for us.  Instead we're going to have to export our data,
 drop the tablespaces, and recreate them as a smaller
 size and then reimport the data minus the dropped
 partitions.
 
 Since we're going to all of this work, I'm wondering
 if we should reorg these partitions by creating a tablespace
 for each partition and a single datafile for each tablespace.
 That way in the future, every time we want to drop a partition,
 it will be very easy to reclaim the disk space associated with
 that partition.  I don't want to have to do these reorgs every
 month.
 
 How do most places physically lay out their partitions?
 What is the downside of having a datafile for each partition?
 Wasted space?  Would a compromise be to assign
 six months worth of partitions to a single tablespace?
 
 We are currently on version 8.0.4 of Oracle on Sun Solaris 2.6
 but we will be upgrading soon to 8.1.7.  Looks like I may need
 to reorg this before we can upgrade as we are rapidly running
 out of room.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cherie Machler
 Gelco Information Network
 
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