RE: Table Size

2003-10-17 Thread Thomas Day

SQL> @actual eid_roles

BYTES_USED
--
  30711808

SQL> select sum(bytes) from dba_segments where segment_name = 'EID_ROLES'
SQL> /

SUM(BYTES)
--
  34996224

The script reports the blocks (as determined by the rowid substring) that
have live rows in them and multiplies it by the db_block size.  It does not
report blocks that have no rows and, presumably, are available for new
data.

In your example, it would depend on how many rows per block.  It could or
could not return the same result.  It returns the blocks with live data
expressed as bytes.



   

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Thomas,

All that this does is report the number of rows.  It does not deal with any
columns within the table.  If I had two tables with the exact number of
rows, but one table had 10 2K columns fully populated, and the other table
had 10 1-char columns fully populated, this query would return the same
result.

I'm not really sure what value this query has.

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This will get you that actual bytes used by the data in the table; however,
it will hit every row in the table and take a long time to run.  It takes
one parameter, the table being sized.

rem 
rem this code was inspired by Kevin Loney
rem 
set verify off;
set pages 24;
select COUNT(DISTINCT(SUBSTR(a.ROWID,1,16)))* b.value
Bytes_Used from &&1 a,
v$parameter b where b.name = 'db_block_size' group by b.value
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I cannot run stats on the table

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RE: Table Size

2003-10-16 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Thomas,

All that this does is report the number of rows.  It does not deal with any
columns within the table.  If I had two tables with the exact number of
rows, but one table had 10 2K columns fully populated, and the other table
had 10 1-char columns fully populated, this query would return the same
result.

I'm not really sure what value this query has.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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This will get you that actual bytes used by the data in the table; however,
it will hit every row in the table and take a long time to run.  It takes
one parameter, the table being sized.

rem 
rem this code was inspired by Kevin Loney
rem 
set verify off;
set pages 24;
select COUNT(DISTINCT(SUBSTR(a.ROWID,1,16)))* b.value
Bytes_Used from &&1 a,
v$parameter b where b.name = 'db_block_size' group by b.value
/




 

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Allan,

I cannot run stats on the table

Regards,
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Re: Table Size

2003-10-16 Thread Goran V



select bytes
from dba_segments
where segment_name = 'your_table';
 
divide the result by 1024*1024*1024 and you'll get 
the size in GB

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Re: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Oracle-L
no, it should get the correct size allocated to all the partitions

select sum(bytes)/(1024*1024*1024) from dba_segments where segment_name =
;

SUM(BYTES)/(1024*1024*1024)
---
 18

select partition_name, sum(bytes)/(1024*1024*1024) from dba_segments where
segment_name =   group by partition_name;

PARTITION_NAME SUM(BYTES)/(1024*1024*1024)
-- ---
TAB_2002_1Q 2.375
TAB_2002_2Q  2.25
TAB_2002_3Q 2
TAB_2002_4Q  2.25
TAB_2003_1Q 2.625
TAB_2003_2Q 2.125
TAB_2003_3Q 2
TAB_2003_4Q  .125
TAB_HIST2.125
TAB_MAX1 .125

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> Well, if the table is partitioned you'll get a nice fat zero
> On 10/15/2003 03:49:36 PM, Stephen Lee wrote:
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> > How about:
> > select sum(bytes) from dba_segments where segment_name =
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Murali_Pavuloori/Claritas

I think we can use dbms_space_admin package to get the accurate size of the
table...not the allocated (querying the data dictionary will report the
allocated space...)

Murali.



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Then the easy answer is:

select sum(nvl(vsize(),1)+nvl(vsize(),1)+..
)/1073741824
from ;




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  All the tables already exist and have data.

  Thanks a lot for your response,
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Raj,

Does the table already exist & have data or are you looking
for a gestimate?



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  Could somebody help me in finding the actual size of
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Goulet, Dick



Then 
the easy answer is:
 
select 
sum(nvl(vsize(),1)+nvl(vsize(),1)+.. 
)/1073741824
from 
;
 
 
Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i 
DBA 

  -Original Message-From: Pillai, Rajesh 
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  All 
  the tables already exist and have data.
   
  Thanks a lot for your response,
  Rajesh
  
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PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
Table Size
Raj,
 
    Does the table already exist & have data or are you 
looking for a gestimate?
 
Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i 
DBA 

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  Hi All,
      Could somebody help me in 
  finding the actual size of an oracle table in GB. 
   
  TIA,
  Rajesh
   
   


RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Day


This will get you that actual bytes used by the data in the table; however,
it will hit every row in the table and take a long time to run.  It takes
one parameter, the table being sized.

rem 
rem this code was inspired by Kevin Loney
rem 
set verify off;
set pages 24;
select COUNT(DISTINCT(SUBSTR(a.ROWID,1,16)))* b.value
Bytes_Used from &&1 a,
v$parameter b where b.name = 'db_block_size' group by b.value
/




   

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  If you are running stats on this table or can run stats use
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
The query proposed by Anthony Hsu assumes that the tablespace has an 8K block size.
Instead use the query below. Of course the result will be in bytes, not gigabytes, but 
any good DBA can instantly convert bytes to gigabytes or terabytes at a glance. :)
P.S. I include LOB indexes in the table total. Some people might argue that those 
should be in the index total, not the table total, but I figure that without the LOB 
column those indexes wouldn't be there so they should properly be counted in the table 
total.

select sum (x.bytes)
from
(select a.bytes
  from dba_segments a
  where a.owner = '&&table_owner'
and a.segment_name = '&&table_name'
and a.segment_type in ('TABLE', 'TABLE PARTITION', 'TABLE SUBPARTITION')
 union all
 select d.bytes
  from
dba_tab_columns b, dba_lobs c, dba_segments d
  where
b.owner = '&&table_owner'
and b.table_name = '&&table_name'
and b.column_name = c.column_name
and d.owner = c.owner
and d.segment_name = c.segment_name
and d.segment_type in ('LOBSEGMENT', 'LOB PARTITION', 'LOB SUBPARTITION')
 union all
 select g.bytes
  from
dba_tab_columns e, dba_lobs f, dba_segments g
  where
e.owner = '&&table_owner'
and e.table_name = '&&table_name'
and e.column_name = f.column_name
and g.owner = f.owner
and g.segment_name = f.index_name
and g.segment_type in ('LOBINDEX', 'INDEX PARTITION', 'INDEX SUBPARTITION')
) x ;

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Hsu, Anthony C., ,CPMS

Try:

SELECT segment_type, segment_name,BLOCKS*8192/1024 "Kb"
FROM   DBA_SEGMENTS
WHERE  OWNER=UPPER('') AND SEGMENT_NAME = UPPER('');

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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
How true. My previous query would be incorrect also.
ANALYZE the table COMPUTE STATISTICS (or ESTIMATE STATISTICS if it's a very large 
table) and then
select num_rows * avg_row_len from dba_tables
where owner = '&&table_owner' and table_name = '&&table_name' ;

> -Original Message-
> Goulet, Dick
> 
>   That gives you the size of the segments/extents that 
> are the table, but not the actual amount of space being used.
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> How about:
> select sum(bytes) from dba_segments where segment_name = 'TABLE_NAME';
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Pillai, Rajesh
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Allan,
 
I 
cannot run stats on the table
 
Regards,
Rajesh
 

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  If 
  you are running stats on this table or can run stats use 
  dba_segements
   
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Stephen Lee

How about:
select sum(bytes) from dba_segments where segment_name = 'TABLE_NAME';

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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Goulet, Dick
Steve,

That gives you the size of the segments/extents that are the table, but not 
the actual amount of space being used.

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How about:
select sum(bytes) from dba_segments where segment_name = 'TABLE_NAME';

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Hi All,
Could somebody help me in finding the actual size of an oracle table in
GB. 

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Re: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, if the table is partitioned you'll get a nice fat zero
On 10/15/2003 03:49:36 PM, Stephen Lee wrote:
How about:
select sum(bytes) from dba_segments where segment_name =  
'TABLE_NAME';

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table in
GB.
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Nelson, Allan
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If you 
are running stats on this table or can run stats use 
dba_segements
 
Allan

  
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      Could somebody help me in 
  finding the actual size of an oracle table in GB. 
   
  TIA,
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Pillai, Rajesh



All 
the tables already exist and have data.
 
Thanks 
a lot for your response,
Rajesh

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  Raj,
   
      Does the table already exist & have data or are you 
  looking for a gestimate?
   
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    Could somebody help me in 
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TIA,
Rajesh
 
 


Re: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 10/15/2003 03:24:29 PM, "Pillai, Rajesh" wrote:
Hi All,
Could somebody help me in finding the actual size of an oracle
table in GB.
TIA,
Rajesh

Select  sum(bytes)/1073741824 "Baud Rate"
from dba_extents
where segment_type='TABLE PARTITION'
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Hsu, Anthony C., ,CPMS



Try:
 
SELECT segment_type, 
segment_name,BLOCKS*8192/1024 "Kb"    
FROM   DBA_SEGMENTS    
WHERE  OWNER=UPPER('') AND SEGMENT_NAME = 
UPPER('');
 

  Tony 
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  TIA,
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RE: Table Size

2003-10-15 Thread Goulet, Dick



Raj,
 
    Does the table already exist & have data or are you 
looking for a gestimate?
 
Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i 
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  TIA,
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RE: Table Size?

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Hamid
  Be sure to read "How to Stop Defragmenting and Start Living" very
carefully so you really understand the concepts. These concepts free you
from being overly concerned about details.
  Myself, I try to plan for 1 year of growth. The future gets too
unpredictable past that. 

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Dear List,

I have a database with 500 tables I want to put these tables based on size
to Three different TBS,Small size tables less than 5 M on TBS1 with extend
size 160K ,Tables less than 160 M and bigger than 5 M on TBS2 with extend
size 5 M and tables bigger than 160 M on TBS3 with extend size 160 M, My
question is do I have to calculate the size of tables for the life cycle of
database(for example 5 years) or Some thing else?
Example:   tableA   size = 10M in first year so this table must be multiple
5 and assume as Medium size or NOT?
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Re: TABLE SIZE

2003-03-21 Thread Joerg Jost
On Thursday 20 March 2003 18:19, Hamid Alavi wrote:
> Dear List,

Hi,

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> I have a question regarding Table size, I want to put the small size of
> tables in a small TBS,But don't know the size of table do I have to
> calculate the size for which period, Assume we want to keep the data for 5
> years so do I have to calculate the size of table for 5 years then decide
> if this table is  in the range of small table or NOT.

two years ahead, we did the same.
In our application we have est. 350 Tables with a range of rows between 10 and 
10.000.000.
Because of this and the fact that some of our customers use Oracle 7.3.4 we 
decided to split the different tables across 3 different tablespaces with 
fixed extent sizes.
It is very good described in the white paper from Oracle about fragmentation.

Here is the Link:
http://metalink.oracle.com/cgi-bin/cr/getfile_cr.cgi?239049

We decided to think about 1 year in the future for every table.
One reason was the ability of Oracle 8.1.7 to move tables to another 
tablespace. The customers with Ora7 are forced to change the release to 
ORA8i. So we don´t need to expect the rowcount for 5 years, because of the 
fact, that new Oracle Releases often have new abilities dealing with such 
problems.

One example is of this fact is Ora8i and the local managed tablespaces. It´s 
worth to think about a solution with one ore more tablespaces with this 
feature enabled. We have very good experiences with this.

> Any Idea appreciate.
> Thanks,
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> Hamid Alavi
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Re: TABLE SIZE

2003-03-20 Thread Connor McDonald
Load up a sample set of rows, check the number of
blocks used (analyze, then look at user_tables), then
multiply by the expected increase factor

hth
connor

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RE: Table Size

2002-10-29 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Prem - Simple way to get in the ballpark with table size. Figure out how
large your average row is and multiply by the number of rows. This is only
approximate and you'll want to size larger for indexes and other effects
like the fact that your data blocks won't be 100% utilized. Better yet,
create a test table, insert some data, ANALYZE the table, and then get the
average row length from USER_TABLES view.
How large the entire database will be depends on many factors. If you
are just creating a simple test database and have a gig or so of space, then
you shouldn't have a problem. Oracle Installer is good today about sizing
everything for you. If you care to, look up the new feature Oracle Managed
Files, designed just for people like you. On the other hand, if you have a
special reason for being really, really concerned about precisely how much
space it will take, then welcome to the world of the Oracle DBA. We can help
you, but you need to provide more information. Hope this is what you were
asking.



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Dear List, 

I am using Oracle 9i database. I need to identify the space requirements for
our database for the production database. Can anybody suggest how to
calculate the size of a table. and also additionally how to calculate the
size of the whole database.? 

Regards 
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Re: Table Size

2002-10-29 Thread paquette stephane
The best way to calculate the size of a table is to
load it with 1000 production data rows. Then calculate
the size of the predicted volume. 
You should be able to handle the first year of data at
day 1.

Do not loose time to calculate the table size at the
byte level with formulas. 

For the temp tablespace, it depends on your
application needs. You should be able to rebuild all
objects successfully.

As for the rollback segment tablespace, then again it
depends on your application and number of users.

Do not forget space for exports, backups, workspace,
at least 2 versions of Oracle software, ...

I just went to a DB2 fast track for experienced DBA.
According to IBM, the total size for the DB
environment is 4 times the size of the data in the DB.
(DB2 uses a lot of temporary files outside the DB).



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RE: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread Amjad

Dear Mitchell,

If iam not mistaken the delete command does not free up the space..but it
can be used in the future 4 the other records that r inserted...
but incase of "Truncate" statement the tablesapce is freed of space
u can try it out on a temporary table

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Sorry :  table is 8 million rows and I deleted 5 million rows.


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> Hi all
>
> I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
> exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
> table size is still the same.
>
> I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause
for
> both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.
>
> any idea.
>
> Mitchell
>
>
>
>
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Re: RE: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread chaos

Ji, Richard£¬ÄúºÃ£¡
hi, i think doing it with exp compress=N and It should use less space.
If you are in oracle8i+, i think doing : alter table move tablespace new_ts 
storage(new storage clause) is faster, and then do: alter index index_on_the table 
rebuild (nologging if possible).
Good luck.


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>500 mill?  How did you do your export?  Try compress=n
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>I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
>exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
>table size is still the same.
>
>I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
>both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.
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RE: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread Hately Mike

This is expected behaviour. COMPRESS=Y doesn't make reference to the amount
of space occupied by rows, just the amount of blocks allocated to the object
as a whole.
It's one of the great misunderstood parameters; really it should have been
called COALESCE.
Richard's suggestion will probably work (depending on your INITIAL storage
definition for that table).
Alternatively, pre-create the table at the required size before importing
the table. Use IGNORE=Y on the import.

Also, a quick thought; if you really deleted 500 million rows, leaving 8
million behind it would have far quicker to copy those 8 million out and
drop the table. 

Regards,
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Hi all

I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
table size is still the same.

I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.

any idea.

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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread mitchell
Title: RE: table size.



Hi Godlwski
 
Thanks for your reply. 
 
This is not locally managed tablespace and num_rows are the 
same. The following  result from dba_tables. 
This big different is empty_blocks. 
 
I still confused why the size is the same but with much more 
empty_blocks. 
 
I think the empty_block means never used.  If whole block 
data is deleted, what happed to this column? used but emptied?
 
 
Mitchell
 
 
 
1. exported table
 
TABLE_NAME 
EMPTY_BLOCKS  CHAIN_CNT BLOCKS  
AVG_SPACE--  -- -- 
--STATEMENT_LINE   
30    
 
0   
 40401    
421
 
 
2. imported table
TABLE_NAME 
EMPTY_BLOCKS  CHAIN_CNT BLOCKS  
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Godlewski, Melissa 
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  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:54 
PM
  Subject: RE: table size.
  
  Mitchell, 
  Is this table in a Locally Managed Tablespace?  If so 
  your extents might be the issue.  Check blocks and empty blocks, and 
  num_rows in dba_tables.  (after an analyze of course)
  -Original Message- From: 
  mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: table size. 
  Sorry :  table is 8 million rows and I deleted 5 million 
  rows. 
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  > > Hi all > > I have a table with 8 millions rows 
  and I deleted the 500 million. Then I > exported 
  tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the 
  > table size is still the same. > > I thought table size should be taken 
  much less space. the storage clause for 
  > both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40. 
  > > any idea. > > Mitchell > > > 
  > > 
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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread paquette stephane

When using delete , the highwater mark does not
change, so the table still use what was allocated. 

export/import also does noty resize the table.

One way to do it, would be to precreate the table with
a smaller size then import the data.



 --- mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Sorry :
 table is 8 million rows and I deleted 5
> million rows.
> 
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> >
> > Hi all
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> > I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted
> the 500 million. Then I
> > exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another
> schema. After that, the
> > table size is still the same.
> >
> > I thought table size should be taken much less
> space. the storage clause
> for
> > both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.
> >
> > any idea.
> >
> > Mitchell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread Stephane Faroult

mitchell wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
> exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
> table size is still the same.
> 
> I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
> both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.
> 
> any idea.
> 
> Mitchell
> 

exp and imp do not resize. Wht is allocated stays allocated. Check the
manual, ALTER TABLE to see how to deallocate unused storage.
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RE: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread Ji, Richard

500 mill?  How did you do your export?  Try compress=n

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Hi all

I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
table size is still the same.

I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.

any idea.

Mitchell





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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread mitchell

Sorry :  table is 8 million rows and I deleted 5 million rows.


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>
> Hi all
>
> I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
> exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
> table size is still the same.
>
> I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause
for
> both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.
>
> any idea.
>
> Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread mitchell


Hi all

I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
table size is still the same.

I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.

any idea.

Mitchell





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Re: TABLE SIZE?

2002-03-04 Thread Ora NT DBA

This would be true if and only if you ignored block header space and ignored
free space in blocks.

What do you want to know

The number of blocks under the high water mark?

The total size of extents allocated to the table segment?

The space allocated within those blocks?

The total number of blocks allocated to the table?

Any one of these could be answered none of them would be the answer you 
arrived at.

John


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> Hi
> If I have value num_rows and avg_row_len then can I know the size of 
> tables?
> Table size(Bytes)=num_rows*avg_row_len
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Re: Table size

2001-05-30 Thread Connor McDonald

select *
from user_segments

is a good start..

hth
connor

--- Viraj Luthra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello
all,
> 
> How do I come to what tables are present in a
> particular tablespace and then when I found the
> table, can I come to know what amount of space it
> consumes?
> 
> eg. I want to know what tablespace does the table
> emp (user is scott)  belong to and the space it
> consumes (eg 5M)? Please help.
> 
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Re: Table size

2001-05-29 Thread Saurabh Sharma

hi viraj,

here's the method which'll let u know about the tables in a tablespace and
thier occupied spaces.
u can modify this according to your need by adding whatever more columns and
condition u want.
select segment_name,tablespace_name,
sum(bytes)/1024 "KB"
from dba_segments where segment_type='TABLE'
and owner='name'
group by segment_name
/

this will give u tables of a particular user and their sizes.

hope it help.
saurabh
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> Hello all,
>
> How do I come to what tables are present in a particular tablespace and
then when I found the table, can I come to know what amount of space it
consumes?
>
> eg. I want to know what tablespace does the table emp (user is scott)
belong to and the space it consumes (eg 5M)? Please help.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> raja
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