RE: Virus again
Well, I just a got a REAL Virus - Chicken Pox!! Just been to the doctors.. You better hope I can't spread E-Chicken Pox :) -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 01:41 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If I get e-mail from the customer with virus I'll inform him/her about the virus. 99.9% of customers would eliminate the source of the virus. If they refuse to do so I would probably not want to deal with them even as customers. It would not make any impact on the business if I lost 0.1% of my customers and that action would actualy work for me because all good people out there would know I don't challenge my values. It is like going to an unsanitized doctor's office, catching something there and doctor's claiming: 'you didn't get it from my office you got it from one of my patients'. That is what doesn't make scence I can even handle annoying recruter's e-mails but not e-mails with viruses. Noone asks you to block ALL e-mails but when the source of inconvinience has been identified why not to take care of it? Anyway, I am giving up. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:56 PM There is definately an association between this list and the person The point remains that such a broad solution makes no sense. If you get an email from a customer and it has a virus, you could say there is definitely an association between our customers and email with viruses. But are you going to stop all email from customers? How about just stopping all email? That would solve the problem. Perhaps the boys in network admin need to work on a more focused solution instead of cutting off a broad source of email. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: lyudah INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mark Leith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Virus again
I beleive there is definately an association, like the dude is still on the list, set up some stupid VB thing tha takes parts of messages and attaches viruses to them and sends them out That's my guess. KK -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:56 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L There is definately an association between this list and the person The point remains that such a broad solution makes no sense. If you get an email from a customer and it has a virus, you could say there is definitely an association between our customers and email with viruses. But are you going to stop all email from customers? How about just stopping all email? That would solve the problem. Perhaps the boys in network admin need to work on a more focused solution instead of cutting off a broad source of email. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Virus again
S'OK. This list won't let you send it as an attachment. At 03:15 AM 6/29/01 -0800, you wrote: Well, I just a got a REAL Virus - Chicken Pox!! Just been to the doctors.. You better hope I can't spread E-Chicken Pox :) Dennis Taylor Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dennis Taylor INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Virus again
yes, sent to my account, not the list... he's now blocked. seems simpler From: Kevin Kostyszyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus again Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:56:23 -0800 Did anyone else get that virus crap again? Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Virus again
Yes, got this file as attachment. Norton AntiVirus has detected the W32.Badtrans.13312@mm virus in: File Name: C:\TEMP\hamster.ZIP.scr Rok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Kostyszyn Sent: 28. junij 2001 17:56 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Virus again Importance: Low Did anyone else get that virus crap again? Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rok Kodrun INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Virus again
Yeah, a reply came to something I posted yesterday with the virus attached. Terry Kevin Kostyszyn wrote: Did anyone else get that virus crap again? Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Virus again
Kevin Kostyszyn wrote: Did anyone else get that virus crap again? Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did, several times. Attachments seem to vary (their names, at least). -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Corporation -- http://www.oriolecorp.com, designed by Oracle DBAs for Oracle DBAs -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Virus again
Just got it. 3 posts in a row. It seems to be replying directly to anyone who posts to the list. Cheers, Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Virus again
yep... The boys in network admin initially said they would strip the virus-now they have said that they are going to block email from the list. I mentioned why not block email from the user-and their response was that other users from the list could get infected.. and exhibited an example where individual here on a Fin Apps list got infected.. bummer.. greg -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 11:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Did anyone else get that virus crap again? Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Loughmiller, Greg INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Virus again
Title: RE: Virus again I got the virus attachment received directly from DUSAN TICA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with subject: MULTIBLOCK-READS ARE OCCURRING. It is addressed to undisclosed-recipients. My mail server removed the attachment. Has anyone else got the similar Virus? Sincerely, -- Janardhana Babu -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Virus again Did anyone else get that virus crap again? Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Virus again
Title: RE: Virus again Interesting, i did not receive it from that person:? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Janardhana BabuSent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:37 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Virus again I got the virus attachment received directly from DUSAN TICA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with subject: MULTIBLOCK-READS ARE OCCURRING. It is addressed to undisclosed-recipients. My mail server removed the attachment. Has anyone else got the similar Virus? Sincerely, -- Janardhana Babu -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Virus again Did anyone else get that virus crap again? Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Virus again
The boys in network admin initially said they would strip the virus-now they have said that they are going to block email from the list. The boys in network admin may be barking up the wrong tree. As I understand it, no email from the list contains a virus. Even if the virus did come from the list, what kind of solution is this? If someone from your accounting department sends you an email that has a virus are they going to block all email from accounting? If a customer sends an email with a virus are they going to block all email from customers? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Virus again
Yes, no e-mail from the list contains virus. The case is even worse: he is not attacking the list; he attacks us(users of the list) personally one by one. There is definately an association between this list and the person speading the virus because virus comes as a reply to the list posts. I'd like to ask a question: are our e-mail addresses widely available to anyone and there is nothing we can do about it? I had an impression it wasn't the case. I would call it privacy violation(very strong statement, probably too strong) or using technical list to do his durty business(more applicable to the situation). From now on I will think twice before signing up for another list, posting messages, or replying to them. Yes, you're right I would not block my customers or friends e-mails because people who have any respect for themselves would clean their machine up after becoming aware of the virus. The problem here is that person has been notified by number of people and he keeps doing it. So, regardless on us individually blocking his e-mails we need to get to the root of this problem and BLOCK that person's access to the list. It becomes clear he is doing it deliberatly. Or you would say: 'Let him do it?' That would not be a good sign - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:21 PM The boys in network admin initially said they would strip the virus-now they have said that they are going to block email from the list. The boys in network admin may be barking up the wrong tree. As I understand it, no email from the list contains a virus. Even if the virus did come from the list, what kind of solution is this? If someone from your accounting department sends you an email that has a virus are they going to block all email from accounting? If a customer sends an email with a virus are they going to block all email from customers? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: lyudah INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Virus again
There is definately an association between this list and the person The point remains that such a broad solution makes no sense. If you get an email from a customer and it has a virus, you could say there is definitely an association between our customers and email with viruses. But are you going to stop all email from customers? How about just stopping all email? That would solve the problem. Perhaps the boys in network admin need to work on a more focused solution instead of cutting off a broad source of email. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Virus again
Title: RE: Virus again It's not a list privacy violation. At least it might not be. The problem is that you can get pretty much any email address (not all, but most) just by reading the sig lines. Others can be found by hitting reply and microsoft mail will put that in the reply footer. Also, harvesting from a list is pretty easy, just look for @ in the body of the message and grab the line. A quick scan will show which are email addresses and which are not. Delete the junk lines and you have a directory. I am not sure, but I believe the list was locked down so the subscriber list is not available. However, for those that publish, there are no good protections that I know of. --Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: lyudah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Virus again Yes, no e-mail from the list contains virus. The case is even worse: he is not attacking the list; he attacks us(users of the list) personally one by one. There is definately an association between this list and the person speading the virus because virus comes as a reply to the list posts. I'd like to ask a question: are our e-mail addresses widely available to anyone and there is nothing we can do about it? I had an impression it wasn't the case. I would call it privacy violation(very strong statement, probably too strong) or using technical list to do his durty business(more applicable to the situation). From now on I will think twice before signing up for another list, posting messages, or replying to them. Yes, you're right I would not block my customers or friends e-mails because people who have any respect for themselves would clean their machine up after becoming aware of the virus. The problem here is that person has been notified by number of people and he keeps doing it. So, regardless on us individually blocking his e-mails we need to get to the root of this problem and BLOCK that person's access to the list. It becomes clear he is doing it deliberatly. Or you would say: 'Let him do it?' That would not be a good sign - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:21 PM The boys in network admin initially said they would strip the virus-now they have said that they are going to block email from the list. The boys in network admin may be barking up the wrong tree. As I understand it, no email from the list contains a virus. Even if the virus did come from the list, what kind of solution is this? If someone from your accounting department sends you an email that has a virus are they going to block all email from accounting? If a customer sends an email with a virus are they going to block all email from customers? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: lyudah INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Virus again
If I get e-mail from the customer with virus I'll inform him/her about the virus. 99.9% of customers would eliminate the source of the virus. If they refuse to do so I would probably not want to deal with them even as customers. It would not make any impact on the business if I lost 0.1% of my customers and that action would actualy work for me because all good people out there would know I don't challenge my values. It is like going to an unsanitized doctor's office, catching something there and doctor's claiming: 'you didn't get it from my office you got it from one of my patients'. That is what doesn't make scence I can even handle annoying recruter's e-mails but not e-mails with viruses. Noone asks you to block ALL e-mails but when the source of inconvinience has been identified why not to take care of it? Anyway, I am giving up. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:56 PM There is definately an association between this list and the person The point remains that such a broad solution makes no sense. If you get an email from a customer and it has a virus, you could say there is definitely an association between our customers and email with viruses. But are you going to stop all email from customers? How about just stopping all email? That would solve the problem. Perhaps the boys in network admin need to work on a more focused solution instead of cutting off a broad source of email. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: lyudah INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).