RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
I don't think they do that on purpose, it's just that for them, it makes more sense to have most of their staff work on the same version, instead of actively trying to improve 3-4 versions at the same time. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L -Original Message- Isn't there an adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well But haven't you noticed that there are ALWAYS a few bugs that have been strategically sprinkled about in any given release, the fix to which is upgrade to version x.y.z? Or is this just a Tru64 thing? The old strategy of Planned Obsolescence? -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
Are you sure that you want to be using software from the vendor which doesn't release new versions on purpose? How do they release them? Purely accidental slips? Subconsciously? Things just happen because of the unhappy childhood? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? I don't think they do that on purpose, it's just that for them, it makes more sense to have most of their staff work on the same version, instead of actively trying to improve 3-4 versions at the same time. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L -Original Message- Isn't there an adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well But haven't you noticed that there are ALWAYS a few bugs that have been strategically sprinkled about in any given release, the fix to which is upgrade to version x.y.z? Or is this just a Tru64 thing? The old strategy of Planned Obsolescence? -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
In colloquial English, they are out of their @#$%! mind. -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 4:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? I believe, in the manufacturing world, it's called "planned obselescence"
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
Heard from Tom Kyte that 10i should be out by Dec'03. He also said that the code is already frozen and beta testing is going on. Prakash -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 14:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
does this bother anybody else as much as it bothers me? just what is Oracle's business model for pushing these release's out this fast? are there that many new features, or a market to capture, that justifies this? makes no sense to me. the shelf life of an oracle release is now about a year and a half. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Heard from Tom Kyte that 10i should be out by Dec'03. He also said that the code is already frozen and beta testing is going on. Prakash -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 14:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
I don't want to express my real feelings but @#$%! oracle should give us some time to get accustomed to the @#$%! 9i first. Is anybody here running 9i in production? My production systems are still on 8i, 8.0 (Oracle Financials) and even 7.3. Who makes so stupid business decisions at @#$%! Oracle? Are they out of their @#$%! mind? -Original Message- From: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) [mailto:prakash.bala;HP.COM] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? Heard from Tom Kyte that 10i should be out by Dec'03. He also said that the code is already frozen and beta testing is going on. Prakash -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 14:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
-Original Message- just what is Oracle's business model for pushing these release's out this fast? It sells books and certification classes. At our shop, we have started to blow off certification now that Oracle has gotten so ridiculous about it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
I've got 9i production databases. But they are brand-new applications. I haven't upgraded any of the 8i ones I have as yet, nor are there any plans to do so. Isn't there an adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it? --- Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to express my real feelings but @#$%! oracle should give us some time to get accustomed to the @#$%! 9i first. Is anybody here running 9i in production? My production systems are still on 8i, 8.0 (Oracle Financials) and even 7.3. Who makes so stupid business decisions at @#$%! Oracle? Are they out of their @#$%! mind? -Original Message- From: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) [mailto:prakash.bala;HP.COM] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? Heard from Tom Kyte that 10i should be out by Dec'03. He also said that the code is already frozen and beta testing is going on. Prakash -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 14:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
But Mladen, how do you *really* feel? Wait a minute, I don't want to know. As for 9i, I have one dev db on 9i, and am still reading Robert F's Oracle 9i New Features book. Production is 7.3.4, 8.0.4, 8.0.6, 8.1.6 Jared Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/2002 10:14 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? I don't want to express my real feelings but @#$%! oracle should give us some time to get accustomed to the @#$%! 9i first. Is anybody here running 9i in production? My production systems are still on 8i, 8.0 (Oracle Financials) and even 7.3. Who makes so stupid business decisions at @#$%! Oracle? Are they out of their @#$%! mind? -Original Message- From: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) [mailto:prakash.bala;HP.COM] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? Heard from Tom Kyte that 10i should be out by Dec'03. He also said that the code is already frozen and beta testing is going on. Prakash -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 14:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
It does??? Now that you 10i is around the corner, are you going to invest in all the 9i books and certification only to have to redo (undo?!) it all in a year? Could make a decent argument for O'Reilly's Safari for those books specific to 9i, IMHO. My $0.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Stephen Lee [mailto:slee;dollar.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? -Original Message- just what is Oracle's business model for pushing these release's out this fast? It sells books and certification classes. At our shop, we have started to blow off certification now that Oracle has gotten so ridiculous about it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
Absolutely. Which is why none of my 8i OPS databases have gone to 9i RAC yet. And from the recent article that was posted here (on Grid Computing), I'm not alone. -- | Brian McGraw /* DBA */ Infinity Insurance | | mailto:Brian.McGraw;Infinity-Insurance.com | -- -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've got 9i production databases. But they are brand-new applications. I haven't upgraded any of the 8i ones I have as yet, nor are there any plans to do so. Isn't there an adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it? --- Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to express my real feelings but @#$%! oracle should give us some time to get accustomed to the @#$%! 9i first. Is anybody here running 9i in production? My production systems are still on 8i, 8.0 (Oracle Financials) and even 7.3. Who makes so stupid business decisions at @#$%! Oracle? Are they out of their @#$%! mind? -Original Message- From: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) [mailto:prakash.bala;HP.COM] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? Heard from Tom Kyte that 10i should be out by Dec'03. He also said that the code is already frozen and beta testing is going on. Prakash -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 14:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
Mladen We are running 9i in production with no problems. But it is a new development application and therefore isn't large. For most of our production databases we are still waiting for application vendors to certify 9i. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't want to express my real feelings but @#$%! oracle should give us some time to get accustomed to the @#$%! 9i first. Is anybody here running 9i in production? My production systems are still on 8i, 8.0 (Oracle Financials) and even 7.3. Who makes so stupid business decisions at @#$%! Oracle? Are they out of their @#$%! mind? -Original Message- From: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) [mailto:prakash.bala;HP.COM] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? Heard from Tom Kyte that 10i should be out by Dec'03. He also said that the code is already frozen and beta testing is going on. Prakash -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 14:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
as an author the publisher is also pushing an 18 month life cycle of the book(s) so that new releases come out close to when the new release of Oracle comes out. I believe, in the manufacturing world, it's called planned obselescence --- Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does??? Now that you 10i is around the corner, are you going to invest in all the 9i books and certification only to have to redo (undo?!) it all in a year? Could make a decent argument for O'Reilly's Safari for those books specific to 9i, IMHO. My $0.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Stephen Lee [mailto:slee;dollar.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? -Original Message- just what is Oracle's business model for pushing these release's out this fast? It sells books and certification classes. At our shop, we have started to blow off certification now that Oracle has gotten so ridiculous about it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
Title: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? Even though all my databases are on 9201 or 9013, I don't want to know when 10i will be out. Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
How's about application vendors that can't keep up the pace of new Oracle releases, but Oracle Support won't support the old versions? What's the *CUSTOMER* supposed to do??? The new version of Cognos' PowerHouse that we're looking at, which is tied to a newer version of our third-party ERP system, officially was tested with Oracle *7*. Yay. If it doesn't do 9iR2, does it do us any good to spend 9 months upgrading??? sigh At least it'll be 65F this weekend so I can leave my DBs alone an go rake leaves. :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100;yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? I've got 9i production databases. But they are brand-new applications. I haven't upgraded any of the 8i ones I have as yet, nor are there any plans to do so. Isn't there an adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
-Original Message- Isn't there an adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well But haven't you noticed that there are ALWAYS a few bugs that have been strategically sprinkled about in any given release, the fix to which is upgrade to version x.y.z? Or is this just a Tru64 thing? The old strategy of Planned Obsolescence? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
I am still having mystery problems with our 9.2.0.2 on Solaris 9 - I have to set the optimizer_mode back to 8.1.7 to get any kind of response time from our Discoverer reports (9.2..0.53). I have Oracle consulting coming out Monday to see if they can find anything. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/02 02:58PM Absolutely. Which is why none of my 8i OPS databases have gone to 9i RAC yet. And from the recent article that was posted here (on Grid Computing), I'm not alone. -- | Brian McGraw /* DBA */ Infinity Insurance | | mailto:Brian.McGraw;Infinity-Insurance.com | -- -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've got 9i production databases. But they are brand-new applications. I haven't upgraded any of the 8i ones I have as yet, nor are there any plans to do so. Isn't there an adage if it ain't broke, don't fix it? --- Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to express my real feelings but @#$%! oracle should give us some time to get accustomed to the @#$%! 9i first. Is anybody here running 9i in production? My production systems are still on 8i, 8.0 (Oracle Financials) and even 7.3. Who makes so stupid business decisions at @#$%! Oracle? Are they out of their @#$%! mind? -Original Message- From: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) [mailto:prakash.bala;HP.COM] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? Heard from Tom Kyte that 10i should be out by Dec'03. He also said that the code is already frozen and beta testing is going on. Prakash -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 14:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: BALA,PRAKASH (HP-USA,ex1) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? U2
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
I heard that the white paper has not yet been published internally... -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Wong, Bing INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
Actually what I have heard is that nothing has been published externally. Oracle recommends to contact sales rep on info concerning future releases Rick Wong, Bing bing.wong@Ingram To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Micro.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? 11/07/2002 01:33 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L I heard that the white paper has not yet been published internally... -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Wong, Bing INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: When will Oracle 10i be out?
Are you done with 9i? :-) Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:09 PM Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Igor Neyman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?
Title: RE: RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? 8i? You luck dog. I'm still trying to get about 15 systems up to 7.3 (from 7.2) Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re:RE: When will Oracle 10i be out? Heck, Would you people kindly give some of us time to get fully up on 8i first!! Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/7/2002 11:08 AM The day we all finish upgrading our databases to 9i. Sunil Nookala DBA Dell Corp. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone heard when Oracle will be releasing version 10i? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pall, Tom [Contractor] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
