RE: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-03 Thread Matthew Zito

The high end arrays from EMC and Hitachi, and to a lesser extent NetApp, all
have this sort of dial-home functionality.  I can't speak for Hitachi
(though I've heard good things), but the Symmetrix will dial home for events
that seem completely inocuous (a host is rebooted that is attached to the
storage, for example), and in many cases a lab tech will dial back into the
array to take a look.  This could happen many many times a month and is one
of the reasons a premium is paid for high-end arrays.

Thanks,
Matt

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> > We lost a board on our 9970 and it phoned home and a 
> hitachi tech was 
> > here
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> > next day to replace it and we didn't even know it was broken. They 
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> > boards and upgrade firmware live.
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> We had the same experience with EMC.  
> 
> Talk about service!
> 
> Can you imagine getting a phone call... "Hi, this is Oracle 
> support.  About that ora-600 in your alert.log..."
> 
> "What 600 in my alert log?"
> 
> "Well, indications are that you are *going* to have a 600 
> problem within the next 48 hours, and we'd just like to 
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RE: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Bambi ... 

Day Dreaming again ... are we?

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Can you imagine getting a phone call... "Hi, this is Oracle support.  About
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"What 600 in my alert log?"

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next 48 hours, and we'd just like to correct this situation before you run
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RE: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-03 Thread Bellow, Bambi
> We lost a board on our 9970 and it phoned home and a hitachi tech was here
the 
> next day to replace it and we didn't even know it was broken. They replace

> boards and upgrade firmware live.


We had the same experience with EMC.  

Talk about service!

Can you imagine getting a phone call... "Hi, this is Oracle support.  About
that ora-600 in your alert.log..."

"What 600 in my alert log?"

"Well, indications are that you are *going* to have a 600 problem within the
next 48 hours, and we'd just like to correct this situation before you run
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Re: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-02 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Is this Oracle 7? From a world-renowned source I've heard that Oracle 7 
contains less KLOC than RAID-F microcode, so simulation might be even 
faster than the real stuff, although with slighly less capacity I'm afraid

Carel-Jan
At 13:44 2-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
Just wait till we post Jesper Haure's RAID-4/5 simulator, where a 
home-written XOR function plus a table with column A = disk A, etc... It 
should be ready RSN.

Mogens

Carel-Jan Engel wrote:

Hi Jack,

Any BAARF-compliant solution will do.

Look at www.baarf.com

At 12:34 2-12-03 -0800, you wrote:

Hi,

We need storage solution for Oracle database because we store a lot of tiff
images and pdf files with the database, which storage solution are you using
or which one you will recommend?
Thanks,

Jack


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RE: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-02 Thread Niall Litchfield
Good to see you wasting time productively... 

Niall

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> 
> Just wait till we post Jesper Haure's RAID-4/5 simulator, where a 
> home-written XOR function plus a table with column A = disk 
> A, etc... It 
> should be ready RSN.
> 
> Mogens
> 
> Carel-Jan Engel wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jack,
> >
> > Any BAARF-compliant solution will do.
> >
> > Look at www.baarf.com
> >
> > At 12:34 2-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We need storage solution for Oracle database because we store a lot
> >> of tiff
> >> images and pdf files with the database, which storage solution are 
> >> you using
> >> or which one you will recommend?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jack
> >
> >
> > Regards, Carel-Jan
> >
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Re: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-02 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Just wait till we post Jesper Haure's RAID-4/5 simulator, where a 
home-written XOR function plus a table with column A = disk A, etc... It 
should be ready RSN.

Mogens

Carel-Jan Engel wrote:

Hi Jack,

Any BAARF-compliant solution will do.

Look at www.baarf.com

At 12:34 2-12-03 -0800, you wrote:

Hi,

We need storage solution for Oracle database because we store a lot 
of tiff
images and pdf files with the database, which storage solution are 
you using
or which one you will recommend?

Thanks,

Jack


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Re: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-02 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Hi Jack,

Any BAARF-compliant solution will do.

Look at www.baarf.com

At 12:34 2-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
Hi,

We need storage solution for Oracle database because we store a lot of tiff
images and pdf files with the database, which storage solution are you using
or which one you will recommend?
Thanks,

Jack
Regards, Carel-Jan

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Re: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-02 Thread Tanel Poder
If you got one concurrent user reading these files, go with internal IDE
disks.
If you got 10 concurrent users, go with EMC Symmetrix

(You didn't give us any more information to be more exact...)

Btw, in some cases, when you have lot's of data, of which only a little part
is used actively, you could go with hierarchical storage systems (HSM),
where frequently accessed data is moved to faster disks and rarely used
archives perhaps even on tape. (Oh, I forgot that you are storing your stuff
in Oracle database... then you'd have to wait until 10g with it's ASM to go
somewhat "hierarchical" in sense of storage speed)

Tanel.

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> Hi,
>
> We need storage solution for Oracle database because we store a lot of
tiff
> images and pdf files with the database, which storage solution are you
using
> or which one you will recommend?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
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Re: Which storage solution is good or you will recommend

2003-12-02 Thread Brian Haas
Liu, Jack wrote:
Hi,

We need storage solution for Oracle database because we store a lot of tiff
images and pdf files with the database, which storage solution are you using
or which one you will recommend?
Thanks,

Jack


Depending on your budget, I recommend  a Hitachi SAN. Fast, 24/7 uptime with 
guaranteed data protection(They'll even compensate you if you do lose data).

We lost a board on our 9970 and it phoned home and a hitachi tech was here the 
next day to replace it and we didn't even know it was broken. They replace 
boards and upgrade firmware live.

They cost a lot, but well worth it IMO.

-Brian

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